Chatter

By We're In Trouble

April 15, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

When I first heard about the bad news, my heart sank. I’ve flown on NWA and they were wonderful. The service was friendly and the snacks were hearty. I enjoyed flying with them.

Delta, on the other hand, is horrible. The staff is rude, the prices are typically outrageous (with very rare exceptions), and the snacks are hardly worth a mention (much less the lack of meals on longer flights!).

With Delta taking over NWA, we’re all suffering a great loss. Farewell to good service and great people; hello to hell in the air. I won’t be flying Delta OR NWA anymore if I can help it, which is sad because I also enjoy KLM (NWA’s international extension). Sigh…

By Bobby

April 15, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

The consumers certainly didn’t win. Domestic airfares will continue up while Delta nickles and dimes consumers. I drive anything under 12 hours now. Or go to Birmingham to fly domestically. Nice airport, TSA officials don’t bark and growl, and I don’t ride Delta.

I heard Clark Howard on the news talking about how great this was for Atlanta, but then again Clark Howard has been out of touch with consumer issues for a few years now.

By Derek

April 15, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

This Merger will be a Win for Customers …

The combination of Delta and Northwest will offer customers greater choice, competitive fares and a superior travel experience.

The combined airline will provide convenient connections between more destinations in the U.S. and around the world than any other airline.

This is a Win-Win Situation for Everyone …

By Debby

April 15, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

Oh, quit whining about food, or the lack of. You want to fly for bus fare. Now do buses offer you a meal or snack???

By Actually

April 15, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

Actually, no one expects to fly for bus fare (which isn’t that cheap either, might I add). So stop your own complaining and let those of us who actually do fly continue to do so on carriers far superior than Delta!

What people expect is good service. Delta CANNOT provide that and hasn’t been able to for many, many years. If you went to the store to buy a TV and the salemen on the floor treated you poorly, would you honestly purchase the TV? If you said yes, then congrats - you’ve booked yourself a flight on one of the worst carriers out there: Delta! :)

By Seriously

April 15, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Are you serious? Northwest was far and away the worst managed airline from top to bottom. I refused to fly NWA when they became code-share partners with Delta and am a little hesitant to fly Delta now if the same scab mechanics are operating and maintaing their aircraft. NWA destroyed the economy of MSP and now the state of Minnesota is left to pick up the pieces of an already desimated area.

By Mike

April 15, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

This is not a good deal! There’s a reason Northwest is called “cobras;” they strike at anything.

By old timer

April 15, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

From published accounts NWA and its employees have been at war for years. I hope they don’t bring that attitude into the merged company because it has never been a part of the Delta history. We welcome them into our family.

By Kaycie

April 15, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

It is so funny how people are complaining about rising airfares. You pay more for gas, food, etc…why not airfares? The reason so many airlines have gone belly up (besides corporate greed) is the cost of fuel is sky high and the price per seat does not equal out to what it costs to fly the equipment in some cases. If you wat to get there fast, prepare to pay the cost. If not- Go Greyhound!

By Kaycie

April 15, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

It is so funny how people are complaining about rising airfares. You pay more for gas, food, etc…why not airfares? The reason so many airlines have gone belly up (besides corporate greed) is the cost of fuel is sky high and the price per seat does not equal out to what it costs to fly the equipment in some cases. If you wat to get there fast, prepare to pay the cost. If not- Go Greyhound!

By Lex Luthor

April 15, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Simple fact:

NWA and DAL planes fly the same routes and are half full. If you merge routes, you save on wasted space. (On a plane, wasted space = un-used space) Its either that or both airlines eventaully starve each other out.

By RAM

April 15, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

So the airline that forgot it was built on customer satisfaction and service will merge with the old “Southern/Republic” airline now known as “North Worst”. Where is the line for Airtran forming?

By rlp-politcal

April 15, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Well… we now know the prices will start to go up.

By rlp-politcal

April 15, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

I was suprised to hear Clark Howard last night doing a special in this crap…

He was siging the prasies of the deal - he must have all that Delta stock in his desk drawer

Clark worries me now days - I guess he is preping for his mayor run… a

By wayne

April 15, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

A sad day. Probably means delta will live. delta doesn’t care about it’s customers, & staff are (most always) rude.

By CJ

April 15, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Agreed: Delta has rude staff at the gates, dirty/filthy airplanes, cramped seats, and humorous snacks on their flights. I hope with their new fortune they improve these areas of service!

Actually, a better way to put it is, I don’t really care about their merger unless it improves these areas of service!

By Obamasux

April 15, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Hopefully airfares will go up (way up) and I’ll no longer have to put up with you idiots that clog lines because you are second class flyers and can’t follow simple directions.

Also, maybe now North Worst will get rid of their aged fleet that is older than most of the people flying the planes.

For those of you Airtrash fans out there, please continue to stay off Delta. The Delta planes all smell better when you choose to fly the competition.

I fly well over 300,000 actual miles with DAL every year and with the exception of maybe some of the Asian carriers, their product far exceeds the competition, especially on the business class level international legs. Unfortunately most people commenting on this blog will never experience business or first class.

By Hillary Clinton

April 15, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

I will give my position on this as soon as I get the results of the opinion polls.

By fed up with ALL Management

April 15, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

The NorthWorst Prez is taking $30 MILLION to step down as top dog and be # 2 in rank.

A ‘suffering industry’ that forced pilots to give up over 50% of their income, and this jackass takes $30 Million?

It’s NOT just the cost of fuel that’s the problem - how about the cost of all GROSSLY OVERPAID AIRLINE MANAGEMENT??

By Jim

April 15, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

Funny story: While awaiting a flight I watched as a man sat on his computer hitting different websites bashing the Delta/Northwest merger posting everything from how ticket prices were going up to how he’d NEVER fly Delta ever again. Soon his flight was called and off he went….to board a DELTA flight to which he commented to others awaiting boarding that he was a loyal and frequent flyer-always had been, always would be-because Delta had the best mechanics in the business. :) Some people just love to stir the pot, don’t they?

By rlp-politcal

April 15, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Obamasux… April 15, 2008 10:28 AM

You sound so intelligent… must be white man - always indicating they are better than everyone else.

You are not all that white man - you are flying with us low life’s - where is your charter flight - to smart to own one.

thing that make you go hummm….

white man - get a grip ! this merger is for the executives - ask the ceo of North West !

By mayor

April 15, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

“The NorthWorst Prez is taking $30 MILLION to step down as top dog and be # 2 in rank.”

WRONG! Anderson is still top, Bastian is still #2 and Steenland gets a seat on the board.

By fed up with MGT

April 15, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

OK - so Steenland is taking $30 MILLION to sit on a freaking BOARD. No ONE, and I mean NO ONE is worth that….especially when Delta/NWorst will be making job CUTS, and has already completely ripped off the pilots.

Tell me why anyone with any airline or board of an airline should make $30M?

By OLD DELTA GUY

April 15, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

Delta and Northwest customer service, which were once great, are now terrible. That’s because the top executives of both were too busy beefing up their salaries, perks, and severance packages because they knew they weren’t staying very long. This was more important to them than customer service, employee benefits, or company profits. If this attitude changes these three areas will see much improvement. Respect of the customer and the workforce has to be won because neither group respects or trusts them now. The outcome of the merger depends on them, not the rank and file workers. Let’s hope that things get turned around and we follow the yellow brick road instead of the muddy ruts we’ve been traveling in.

By fed up with MGT

April 15, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

OK - so Steenland is taking $30 MILLION to sit on a freaking BOARD. No ONE, and I mean NO ONE is worth that….especially when Delta/NWorst will be making job CUTS, and has already completely ripped off the pilots.

Tell me why anyone with any airline or board of an airline should make $30M?

By pbuffett

April 15, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Can someone tell me why all the past Mgt of Delta - with the exception of Grinstein — bankrupted the company - yet left a failed company with tens of millions in their back pockets? I don’t even believe in top execs who do a GOOD job getting that much.

Theft and corruption isn’t just in the government. There needs to be a revolution, and UNIONS don’t help matters in the least. Unions are bribe targets. Look what AOPA has done for Delta pilots….absolutely nothing.

By fix it

April 15, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Get some younger (cheaper), NICER waitresses (flight attendants)… that would make a drastic improvement. . Believe me, NO ONE wants to be ‘served’ by any of these people. Their attitudes stink.

Then raise the fares to what the flight REALLY costs instead of trying to offer bus fares to every cheap ass around.

Adjust the Management and Officers salaries DOWN, and boost the WORKERS salaries UP.

Fix the problems, don’t just make the problem BIGGER.

By mayor

April 15, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

“By pbuffett

April 15, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Can someone tell me why all the past Mgt of Delta - with the exception of Grinstein — bankrupted the company - yet left a failed company with tens of millions in their back pockets? I don’t even believe in top execs who do a GOOD job getting that much.

Theft and corruption isn’t just in the government. There needs to be a revolution, and UNIONS don’t help matters in the least. Unions are bribe targets. Look what AOPA has done for Delta pilots….absolutely nothing.”

I appreciate Grinsteins gesture but perhaps it came from a feeling of guilt from when he was on the BOD and hired Leo and his gang and let them get away with murder.

BTW, it’s ALPA not AOPA(Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association)

By Rick

April 15, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

old timer, thank you for laying out the welcome mat. I think the “good” people of NW are looking forward to working with the “good” people of DL.

OLD DELTA GUY, I wish somebody upstairs would read and think about your post.

By Rick

April 15, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

old timer, you may remember some of my other posts re; R. Anderson and the NW stock-for-pay fiasco. We have reason to be wary of him. That attitude has never been part of DL’s history. But then again, neither has Anderson.

By billyhunter

April 15, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

To all you whiners-get real-this is a business that must make a profit in order to pay shareholders and employees and vendors. I surmise that most of you who complain are salaried employees that have no connection with the bottom line -this is capitalism at its finest-if you want socialism-move to Europe. Also check the latest oil prices-if you want to drive-go for it.

By Nichole

April 15, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

Great story Jim I know many Airtran mechanics who won’t fly Airtran (their own airline) and they will tell you it’s because they have first hand knowledge of their maintenance. They fly Delta and will tell you it’s because Delta does outstanding maintenance with the best mechanics, knowledge and engineering support in the industry.

By john

April 15, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

Thanks to the Delta pilots, this will be worse than the USAIR/AWA merger.

By steve

April 15, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

Does this mean Richard Anderson will spring for some new couches at the 4 Northwest gates at Hartsfield? I recently flew out of gate D-14 and was surprised to see all the ratty, torn couches. It looked like a Greyhound terminal in Appalachia.

By Lucy

April 15, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

I think it is a good idea. Northwest has a horrible reputation outside of MN, old airplanes, filthy at best, lousy service and unhappy employees. The pilots have huge egos, which they need to check at the door. The number of pilots out there who just lost their jobs will be standing in line when these crybabies try and strike. The Mechanics strike should show them what these companies will now do. They are replaceable with type rated professionals who will not hesitate to cross a picket line to feed their children. Gone are the days when they had real power. It is time for them to realize that they are LABOR and expendable. I am not a fan of either airline, but it is no surprise that this has now come true with the price of oil. The question is would you rather have a job or be on the street??? I am not anti-pilot by any means, just looking at the real possibilities of what is at stake.

By Dave

April 15, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

This is interesting and fun! Everyone merges and the world will slowly and eventually be owned by a select handful of companies - so let’s go with it, don’t fight the battle. If these two airlines (which by the way just both recently entered / exited bankruptcy NWA followed DAL’s suit)don’t merge - one or both will go bankrupt - then you have billions of $$$ in lost tangible goods, wages, rentals, comsumables, etc. Instead…work with these two airlines in how they can make things better after this merger. For example: Why can’t Delta buy up NWA and as a ‘Parent’ company - keep (for the most part) NWA flying as NWA and Delta flying as Delta - then grandfather in going forward new policies, etc.??? The Unions are happy at NWA, the non-unions are happy at Delta (AND by the way - I believe all of the employees at DELTA have truly sacrificed a TON over the past several years - they deserve a break! NWA - not so much a sacrifice! I also find it interesting the current new CEO of Delta - didn’t he come from Northwest Airlines? Well - as a Delta Freq. Flier and as a Minneapolis native - I sincerely wish the best to all employees at both airlines - I’m sure this will work out, as I mentioned - I think it is inevitable - make the best of it and help make it a strong company.

By Dave

April 15, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah - and I find it interesting that so many people on here actually deal with SO MANY employees so much. When I fly I know what to expect - I’m prepared and very little happens between destinations. My reservations through Delta are made online, my checkin is made through an electronic kiosk, IF I check a bag - it’s easy and painless. I go through security (non-airline employees), enter my gate, wait to board the plane - board the plane - arrive - exit plane. there are maybe four airline employees that I come into contact with that I need to receive information from or communicate to. If I do communicate - it’s always been a pleasant experience. SO - I guess my point here is - all these people complaining about the rude service, dirty equipment, etc. - if you want your own space and perfect flying environment, don’t fly commercial - lease a private jet for about $50K for your flight and THEN you can complain about poor service and equipment - if it happens. You could also try driving. Can’t we all just get along - try!

By Dave

April 15, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah - and I find it interesting that so many people on here actually deal with SO MANY employees so much. When I fly I know what to expect - I’m prepared and very little happens between destinations. My reservations through Delta are made online, my checkin is made through an electronic kiosk, IF I check a bag - it’s easy and painless. I go through security (non-airline employees), enter my gate, wait to board the plane - board the plane - arrive - exit plane. there are maybe four airline employees that I come into contact with that I need to receive information from or communicate to. If I do communicate - it’s always been a pleasant experience. SO - I guess my point here is - all these people complaining about the rude service, dirty equipment, etc. - if you want your own space and perfect flying environment, don’t fly commercial - lease a private jet for about $50K for your flight and THEN you can complain about poor service and equipment - if it happens. You could also try driving. Can’t we all just get along - try!

By B25

April 15, 2008 7:53 PM | Link to this

*I guess my point here is - all these people complaining about the rude service, dirty equipment, etc. - if you want your own space and perfect flying environment, don’t fly commercial - lease a private jet for about $50K for your flight and THEN you can complain about poor service and equipment - if it happens. You could also try driving. Can’t we all just get along - try!

Great post, Dave. I know that not all DL employees are pleasant 100% of the time, however, remember that in order to give you all low fares over the past 15 or so years, the company has had to cut back..so for example it’s one agent working a flight rather than two or three or 4 FAs working a 757 when there used to be 5, etc…It’s not an excuse for rude behaviour but you must understand that in order to give you cheap fares, we have taken pay cuts and deal with as many, if not more, people with less help.

By B25

April 15, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this

*I guess my point here is - all these people complaining about the rude service, dirty equipment, etc. - if you want your own space and perfect flying environment, don’t fly commercial - lease a private jet for about $50K for your flight and THEN you can complain about poor service and equipment - if it happens. You could also try driving. Can’t we all just get along - try!

Great post, Dave. I know that not all DL employees are pleasant 100% of the time, however, remember that in order to give you all low fares over the past 15 or so years, the company has had to cut back..so for example it’s one agent working a flight rather than two or three or 4 FAs working a 757 when there used to be 5, etc…It’s not an excuse for rude behaviour but you must understand that in order to give you cheap fares, we have taken pay cuts and deal with as many, if not more, people with less help.

By MCOK

April 15, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

My Delta experiences have— for the most part— been fantastic. It’s a pleasure to be a loyal customer. I find the service (overall) to be outstanding and enjoyable. I’m happy for Delta that they are the surviving entity in the acquisition, and I look forward to seeing a Delta hub in Amsterdam.

By MCOK

April 15, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

My Delta experiences have— for the most part— been fantastic. It’s a pleasure to be a loyal customer. I find the service (overall) to be outstanding and enjoyable. I’m happy for Delta that they are the surviving entity in the acquisition, and I look forward to seeing a Delta hub in Amsterdam.

By Dered

April 16, 2008 5:59 AM | Link to this

Beware Delta people,remember Pan Am?How many layoffs were there from that?How many Pan Am routes are left,short memories will kill the airline.

By Dered

April 16, 2008 5:59 AM | Link to this

Beware Delta people,remember Pan Am?How many layoffs were there from that?How many Pan Am routes are left,short memories will kill the airline.

By Interesting

April 16, 2008 7:23 AM | Link to this

Actually, from a route perspective I can see why this deal makes sense. NW and Delta have the least amount of duplicate route coverage making the merger make the most sense. So for all those screaming about prices (Yes, I too hate to pay more, but can understand the price difference at the pump affecting them) the fact that the overall operations don’t overlap a whole lot should make the worry about prices less of a concern (at least from the perspective of reduced competition to destinations)

Hey these folks are in it to make some money and right now prices of tickets aren’t covering the cost of operations so we’ll all have to pay more. Even SW will start raising their prices more now that their fuel hedges are more on par with everyone else. We just have to accept the fact that the the employees (I don’t count execs cause they are all overpaid) need to survive just like you and me so the consumer will in general have to pay more (no matter who you fly).

By CB

April 16, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

For all the naysayers complaining about how the cost of a ticket is going to go up: Wake up America, it’s about time that the cost of an airline ticket no longer be cheaper than a tank of gas. Every other industry is able to pass along higher costs to the consumer—the airlines should be no different.
It truly baffles me how the average airline traveler these days has no problem dropping $5 on a beer (maybe two), another $10 on magazines and other various things in the terminal, but if an airline tries to raise ticket prices by as little as $10-$20 dollars, there is all this gnashing of teeth and other public pity on display in the media.

By F/A in Atlanta

April 16, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

This merger is about the creditors who now form the boards of both Delta and NW, it is not and never has been about the employees nor has it been about creating a great airline. They simply want their money out of this and that’s it. That’s the reason they brought Anderson on board as CEO and not Jim Whitehurst who would have been a much better choice and would’ve made Delta a much better stand alone airline. Bastian was kept because he’s the “money” man. What a shame for Delta employees! The equity that we will get amounts to about $10,000.00 per non-pilot employee if the company is valued at 17.7 Billion as they say. In contrast, the Delta pilot equity will be about $100,000.00 per pilot. Go figure - 10 times as much. This 10,000.00 stock figure pales in comparison to the difference in pay between a flight attendant at Southwest and Delta. They make $18,000.00 PER YEAR more than a Delta Flight Attendant for flying a very moderate schedule of 75 flight hours per month. Our equity stake is only about half of the difference in pay, again PER YEAR. Delta is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of its non-pilot employees to get this merger through. Watch what happens following the close of this merger - it won’t be pretty and watch Richard Anderson land with a big ol’ golden parachute. Sad for real Delta people.

By F/A in Atlanta

April 16, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

This merger is about the creditors who now form the boards of both Delta and NW, it is not and never has been about the employees nor has it been about creating a great airline. They simply want their money out of this and that’s it. That’s the reason they brought Anderson on board as CEO and not Jim Whitehurst who would have been a much better choice and would’ve made Delta a much better stand alone airline. Bastian was kept because he’s the “money” man. What a shame for Delta employees! The equity that we will get amounts to about $10,000.00 per non-pilot employee if the company is valued at 17.7 Billion as they say. In contrast, the Delta pilot equity will be about $100,000.00 per pilot. Go figure - 10 times as much. This 10,000.00 stock figure pales in comparison to the difference in pay between a flight attendant at Southwest and Delta. They make $18,000.00 PER YEAR more than a Delta Flight Attendant for flying a very moderate schedule of 75 flight hours per month. Our equity stake is only about half of the difference in pay, again PER YEAR. Delta is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of its non-pilot employees to get this merger through. Watch what happens following the close of this merger - it won’t be pretty and watch Richard Anderson land with a big ol’ golden parachute. Sad for real Delta people.

By F/A in Atlanta

April 16, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

This merger is about the creditors who now form the boards of both Delta and NW, it is not and never has been about the employees nor has it been about creating a great airline. They simply want their money out of this and that’s it. That’s the reason they brought Anderson on board as CEO and not Jim Whitehurst who would have been a much better choice and would’ve made Delta a much better stand alone airline. Bastian was kept because he’s the “money” man. What a shame for Delta employees! The equity that we will get amounts to about $10,000.00 per non-pilot employee if the company is valued at 17.7 Billion as they say. In contrast, the Delta pilot equity will be about $100,000.00 per pilot. Go figure - 10 times as much. This 10,000.00 stock figure pales in comparison to the difference in pay between a flight attendant at Southwest and Delta. They make $18,000.00 PER YEAR more than a Delta Flight Attendant for flying a very moderate schedule of 75 flight hours per month. Our equity stake is only about half of the difference in pay, again PER YEAR. Delta is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of its non-pilot employees to get this merger through. Watch what happens following the close of this merger - it won’t be pretty and watch Richard Anderson land with a big ol’ golden parachute. Sad for real Delta people.

By F/A in Atlanta

April 16, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

This merger is about the creditors who now form the boards of both Delta and NW, it is not and never has been about the employees nor has it been about creating a great airline. They simply want their money out of this and that’s it. That’s the reason they brought Anderson on board as CEO and not Jim Whitehurst who would have been a much better choice and would’ve made Delta a much better stand alone airline. Bastian was kept because he’s the “money” man. What a shame for Delta employees! The equity that we will get amounts to about $10,000.00 per non-pilot employee if the company is valued at 17.7 Billion as they say. In contrast, the Delta pilot equity will be about $100,000.00 per pilot. Go figure - 10 times as much. This 10,000.00 stock figure pales in comparison to the difference in pay between a flight attendant at Southwest and Delta. They make $18,000.00 PER YEAR more than a Delta Flight Attendant for flying a very moderate schedule of 75 flight hours per month. Our equity stake is only about half of the difference in pay, again PER YEAR. Delta is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of its non-pilot employees to get this merger through. Watch what happens following the close of this merger - it won’t be pretty and watch Richard Anderson land with a big ol’ golden parachute. Sad for real Delta people.

By Rick

April 16, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Yeah, it IS sad. You can moan and complain all you want but in the end, there’s nothing you can or WILL do about it. And Anderson knows that.

By OLD DELTA GUY

April 16, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Come on folks. Give this thing a chance. 9 out of 10 Delta folks do a great job and love what they do, 9 out of 10 Northwest folks do a great job and love what they do. Unfortunately there are 2 out of 20 who just want to complain about how bad things are and they just know it is going to get worse. I feel pity for them because life is too short to horde all that negativism. The 18 of 20 will tolerate them and still make this a great company. To: Dered… The Pan Am thing was totally different from this merger. Delta sunk millions in an effort to keep Pan Am flying by letting them keep all SA routes and some others and build up from there but they would rather fold than shrink so Delta quit pouring money into that bottomless pit. They too were heavily unionized and most could not bear the thought of working in a non union environment. A few of them did sign on with Delta and nobody at Delta, including them, was laid off as a result. This is going to be a good thing for all of us so give it a chance, please.

By mayor

April 16, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

“By Dered

April 16, 2008 5:59 AM | Link to this

Beware Delta people,remember Pan Am?How many layoffs were there from that?How many Pan Am routes are left,short memories will kill the airline. “

WRONG. As Old Delta Guy said, the PanAm deal was a sell off of assets, not a merger. A certain number of PanAm people were offered jobs and none of those were laid off by Delta. The SA operation that Delta supported was found out to be a money losing deal so Delta chose not to pour any more money into it and THOSE people were laid off. Ask the people at AA and UA about when they acquired the PanAm routes. Did those airlines provide jobs to PanAm people? I bet not.

By "C"BERRY

April 16, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

AS A DELTA RETIREE WITH 36 YEARS SERVICE, I FIND IT A SAD DAY. I WORKED THROUGH MANY OF DELTA’S GOLDEN YEARS. I ALSO WORKED THROUGH SOME OF THE NOT SO GOLDEN YEARS. I SAW THE END OF MANY GOOD AIRLINES. EASTERN, BRANIFF, CAPITAL, PAN AM, WESTERN, NATIONAL, OZARK, SOUTHERN, TRANS TEXAS,MUSE, AND MORE ALL DISAPPEARED. SOME BY MERGER, AND SOME JUST DIED.

I AM NOT VERY KEEN ON THIS MERGER, BUT I PRAY FOR THEIR SUCCESS. IT REMINDS ME OF AN ALGEBRA PROBLEM. YOU HAVE TWO AIRLINES THAT HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS. THEY ARE BOTH THE MINUS IN THE EQUATION. YOU MERGE THEM. THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE A PLUS. A - x - = + TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BETTER—A MINUS TIMES A MINUS IS A PLUS. I NEVER COULD FULLY UNDERSTAND HOW YOU COULD TAKE ONE ORANGE THAT YOU DON’T HAVE AND MULTIPLY IT BY ANOTHER ORANGE YOU DON’T HAVE AND COME OUT HAVING AN ORANGE. THIS IS HOW I SEE THE MERGER. MANAGEMENT AND THE UNIONS HOLD THE KEY FOR SUCCESS.

By oldtimer

April 16, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

Rick, Re your 3:15 post. Don’t think for a minute that we see R Anderson as one of us. We have trouble trusting any CEO or upper mgmt person based on the ones we’ve had over the past few years. Upper executives everywhere, not just at DL and NW, have just gone crazy as hell lately. I don’t understand it.

By Rick

April 16, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this

oldtimer, you seem to be one of the wiser ones at DL. If a history check is done, you’ll see R. A. learned his craft from Lorenzo. There seems to be no consequences for crazy execs. They have no concience.

By oldtimer

April 16, 2008 11:56 PM | Link to this

Rick…..I’d forgotten about Frank Lorenzo. It is possible that he took his money, started a cult, and we are witnessing his loyal followers in action. I didn’t realize than our Richard was one of his boys. Wish you hadn’t reminded me because that knowledge will add wrinkles to my brow. I fear that chances Richard has changed are probably pretty small. Steenrod is a jewel too. Seemingly, all the good execs and CEOs have disappeared from the business scene.

By ken

April 17, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

the problem is the fares are the same as they were 30 years ago when fuel was 19cents for jet fuel. now it is 3.50 a gallon. raise the fares and get the bus people off the planes. pay employees what they are worth. we would not need the mergers.

By CVG4evr

April 17, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Delta reminds me of France. And Anderson reminds me of Hitler. The citizens of France (Delta), once many in numbers, lack the intestinal fortitude to stand up for nor defend themselves. They’re willing to run to the countryside and sip their wine (sweet tea) and eat their cheese (grits) while other countries come in and fight the battle against the aggressor (Anderson). Pardone moi, Monsieur Anderson, can you lead us to zee slaughterhouse? 12 to 18 months? Merci. Merci. Makes it a little easier to understand why Sherman had such an easy time marching through Atlanta. There was very little resistance.

By Northstar1

April 17, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Stupid Delta SLAVES wouldn’t know what it means to stand up and not be treated like a kid, or doormat.

You can most DEFINATELY expect “attitude” from NW. They don’t back down from NW management, why would they with the Master/Slave mentality at Delta.

This is disaster that NO NORTHWEST people want and will do ALL they can to fight it.

By 'c'BERRY

April 17, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

OLDTIMER & RICK

DO WHAT I HAVE DONE, AND I THINK YOU WILL FIND IT VERY INTERESTING. GOOGLE TWO OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS FOR DAL. I AM TALKING ABOUT RON ALLEN AND LEO MULLIN. I WAS AMAZED. THEY BOTH SIT ON A NUMBER OF MAJOR BOARDS OF DIRECTORS. MAKING SOME MAJOR $$$. THEY SHOULD BE HIDING IN SHAME FOR WHAT THEY STOLE FROM DELTA. IT SEEMS THAT “BIG BUSINESS” WILL NEVER LEARN OR CAN’T SMELL A SKUNK.

By oldtimer

April 17, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

cvg4evr…You are one bitter sob. NWA people only do what their union bosses tell them to do. They are slaves to the union and only stand up when told to. Please find you a job at Burger king. You will be better placed.

cBerry…You are exactly right.

By F/A in Atlanta

April 17, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

After attending the “Ra Ra” fest at Delta on Tuesday where they placed all of the new hire Flight Attendants across the front of the audience to cheer for every little thing, I am more convinced that this deal was done to benefit the creditors who make up the Boards at both Delta and NW. There was only polite applause from the rest of Delta people at this rally and neither Anderson or Bastian did anything to convince me that this is good for Delta people. They talked in sound bites and took a very limited number of questions from Delta people. Who at Delta wants to fly on 40 year old DC-9’s? They’ve got old, dirty, noisy planes and disillusioned employees who were ripped off by Anderson while he was there and it has only continued through their bankruptcy. This will not be pretty, but again Anderson will most assuredly land with a huge golden parachute when this is done.

By Southern Pride

April 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

I felt compelled to reach out to “We’re in Trouble”. It’s funny how two people can have such completely different opinions. I have never experienced anything other than superior service on Delta and have dreaded the very few times I’ve HAD to fly on Northwest.

My experiences on NWA have all been the same…extremely rude, disgruntled “attendants”, old and uncomfortable aircraft, and very high fares. You do not get what you pay for on Northwest.

I hope Delta is able to inject some much needed pride into NWA as they do their own. Even through furloughs, pay cuts, bankruptcy’s and hostile takeover attempts, Delta’s personnel remained cordial and optimistic of brighter days to come. In my opinion, NWA’s brighter day is here!

By OLD DELTA GUY

April 17, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

To Southern Pride….THANK YOU FOR THAT VERY ACCURATE POST.

By Rick

April 17, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

oldtimer….gotta talk to you about your 11:33 post. Not exactly sure what you meant by “only do what their union bosses tell them to do”. As you probably already know I’m with NWA. I’m also on the shop committee. In the approx. 15mo I’ve been on the shop comm. I (we) have yet to be told to “do” something. Our job on the local level is to enforce the contract, both FOR the company and FOR the employees. It’s a mutual agreement. I believe it was you who said 9 of 10 NWA & DL employees are good. We ARE productive for our company. We don’t just sit back and refuse to work, hiding behind the union. If they do, they won’t get any help from this committee. To me, it’s not unlike having a legal firm on retainer. Unfortunately, you sometimes need to use them. Were you able to get a mortgage or a car loan withOUT signing a contract? A person is willing to sign a contract (car/house) to GIVE x number of dollars each month but is UNwilling to sign a one to RECIEVE x number of dollars a month. Who’s the “slave”? If a company says you’ll get a raise, say every 12mo, I don’t see anything wrong with getting it in writing. Keep in mind, I’ve worked for the “evil red rudder” all these years. Like you’ve said, the past several years at DL have been an eye-opener for you. Like I’ve said in the past, had i worked for DL 2 or 3 decades ago, I wouldn’t have a need for a union either. As we all know, things are different now.

By lynnbyrns

April 17, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

I hope this lowers the fares. I would fly more frequently if the fares were lower. $520 Cincinnati to Newark. Outrageous!!!!! And always late. Airlines need to know they would make more money with lower rates —- people would fly more. If fares continue to go up I would consider driving. Stuck in OHIO Hub.

By Dave

April 17, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Cheers to OLD DELTA GUY & SOUTHERN PRIDE. BAH HUMBUG to Northstar1! Cheers to Delta employees who have sacrificed throught the years - to Mr. Grinstein (Remember his exec. salary of $450,000 and no bonuses - not the multi-multi-million dollar pay others were receiving along with their golden parachutes); and give Mr. Anderson a chance (even with his previous NWA experience). BAH HUMBUG to Mr. Mullin - SHAME!!! I’m not a big Union fan - I thank the Delta employees who choose to go to work everyday facing challenges and doing the best they can on their own free will - not because their union tells them how / what / when / where… I don’t wish bad things for either company - or the employees. I hope the best for everyone in the end result of this process. But I understand there will be changes necessary - good and bad.

By SuperDave

April 17, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Well, this should be the final nail in the coffin for the State of Michigan. Now that NWA and DAL have merged they won’t be needing a third HUB. Meaning the people of Minnesota will fight to keep one heb there,while Govenor Jennifer Grandholm sits on her ass and watch another company leave the State. I worked for British Aiways in Detroit for 20 years, B.A. had flown into Metro Airport for 60 years. Now I’m in Boston and NWA/DAL flies to Heathrow, not B.A. Thanks for nothing Govenor!By the way, My house is for sale in Romulus like everyone elses. I’m sure I can get pennies on the dollar for it. Or do like everyone else in Michigan and just walk away from my mortgage. Meanwhile I pay $2000 a month for a 1 bedroom apartment in Boston, Cause I can’t afford a $400,000 fixer upper in MASS. Govenor, say hi to my wife and 7 year old daughter who still live in our house in Michigan. How are your kids doing?

By SuperDave

April 17, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

Well, this should be the final nail in the coffin for the State of Michigan. Now that NWA and DAL have merged they won’t be needing a third HUB. Meaning the people of Minnesota will fight to keep one heb there,while Govenor Jennifer Grandholm sits on her ass and watch another company leave the State. I worked for British Aiways in Detroit for 20 years, B.A. had flown into Metro Airport for 60 years. Now I’m in Boston and NWA/DAL flies to Heathrow, not B.A. Thanks for nothing Govenor!By the way, My house is for sale in Romulus like everyone elses. I’m sure I can get pennies on the dollar for it. Or do like everyone else in Michigan and just walk away from my mortgage. Meanwhile I pay $2000 a month for a 1 bedroom apartment in Boston, Cause I can’t afford a $400,000 fixer upper in MASS. Govenor, say hi to my wife and 7 year old daughter who still live in our house in Michigan. How are your kids doing?

By John

April 17, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Two big chapter 11 loser airlines merge to become the nations largest carrier? Oh what a country! Why do we continue to bail out inferior airlines? Suport American Airlines the only legacy airline not to burden the american public with their debt! GO AA #1 ALWAYS

By Fly Continental

April 17, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

Simply put, just fly Continental and ignore these two airilnes - then you do not have to worry about bad service. I flew Delta and Northwest for many years, then watched as Northwest dual managers in the 1980s ripped the airline service to pieces. Then in the late 1990s early 2000s, watched as Delta’s service went into the toilet. A few years ago it was so bad that Delta was canceling the NY shuttle from Boston to NYC becuase of constant MD-80 troubles, and would reschedule me on Continental. What a difference that made! Now although I do get delays in Newark, they have good service, feed you on planes, and actually are polite to their customers - no matter how much road rage they have (I have seen some pretty awful passengers).

At this point I know even Continental lost money this past quarter due to high fuel prices, but before this past period the employees profit share - which is a good way to treat employees. To me there is no comparison - the old saying was “Fly Delta.” Now I say why when we can “Fly Continental.”

By Fly Continental

April 17, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

Simply put, just fly Continental and ignore these two airilnes - then you do not have to worry about bad service. I flew Delta and Northwest for many years, then watched as Northwest dual managers in the 1980s ripped the airline service to pieces. Then in the late 1990s early 2000s, watched as Delta’s service went into the toilet. A few years ago it was so bad that Delta was canceling the NY shuttle from Boston to NYC becuase of constant MD-80 troubles, and would reschedule me on Continental. What a difference that made! Now although I do get delays in Newark, they have good service, feed you on planes, and actually are polite to their customers - no matter how much road rage they have (I have seen some pretty awful passengers).

At this point I know even Continental lost money this past quarter due to high fuel prices, but before this past period the employees profit share - which is a good way to treat employees. To me there is no comparison - the old saying was “Fly Delta.” Now I say why when we can “Fly Continental.”

By One less bad choice

April 17, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Personally I believe that Delta which was back in the 70s in early 80s the best run airline to now one of the worst. Northwest has tried to overcome their bad reputation by finally getting rid of some of their worn out and absolute planes to some newer nicer aircraft. Still they are not an A player. So I am glad to get the two worst airlines together so that the two best can get together (United and Continental) then maybe the others will step back up to the plate and start competing on what customers want most of all - service and reliabality. That of course leaves American which is in its beginning stages of becoming the new Northworst. Older than dirt planes and could care less attitude. Those MD80s have got to go and soon or American will loose their most valued customers.

By Carole

April 17, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

I gave up on Delta. I had purchased tickets to go from my local airport to NYC. They ceased serving my local airport and never even informed me. I only found out when I went online to check my seat assignments. All it said was “Contact Delta”. What if I hadn’t gone online? I would have been at the airport only to find out there was no service. Not a phone call or letter or email from Delta. I had to call them and they issued a refund. Big Deal. Then I had to scramble to find another airline to get tickets on for my trip. I’d never even consider flying Delta again. Enough is enough!

By bob

April 17, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

DELTA HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE BEST…NICE..WE WILL CONTINUE TO FLY THEM…

By John

April 17, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Since deregulation, the average price of an airline ticket is far less than it used to be and customers have gotten used to those cheaper fares. As the price of running an airline increases, (ie: fuel), either customers will have to do with less, (ie:food), or pay more. Cetainly airline salaries have not increased…in fact they have decreased. How difficult is it for you folks to understand those basic principles?

By "C"BERRY

April 17, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

I ADDRESS THIS TO “WERE IN TROUBLE.”

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR NOT FLYING DL/NW.

WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS WITH CROOKED

POLITICIANS AND UPPER MANAGEMENT. WE

WILL DO JUST FINE WITH OUT YOUR

WHINING. DELTA IS LOOKING FOR

FLIERS WITH SOME AWARENESS OF THE

DIFFICULTIES THAT ARE EVERY DAY

PROBLEMS. YOU SHOULD TRY TO GET A JOB

DEALING WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU. NOTHING

IS EVER GOOD ENOUGH OR CHEAP ENOUGH.

ACCORDING TO MY WEBSTER’S 7TH EDITION

YOU ARE A “WEENIE.”

By OLD DELTA GUY

April 17, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

This is to “C”BERRY: Re your 4:32 post. You spoke for a lot of us. Thanks. Folks like that are never happy unless they are putting somebody down, regardless of the level of service they get. He’ll continue to fly us and will keep bitching when a forum is present.

By They are all the same

April 17, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

The days of glamourous flying are 20 years behind us now and I think that the airlines are basically the same. I was on flight a few weeks back and looked around and noticed that there was nothing in the cabin that I could tell that branded the airline. Finally I looked and noticed the emergency card stuck out - American Airlines. I remember that when you were in a cabin that everything spelled out that airline. Personally I think that when all of the consolidating gets done that the government will step back in and reregulate the whole bunch because the service will be so deplorable and the airlines will be vertually marginless. then everyone will charge the same at the price the government dictates and will run certain routes as they did before Jimmy Carter deregulated them. They will have to get approval to start a route from Des Moines to Indianapolis and will cease the frequent flyer miles as there will be only three majors along with Southwest. The little guys such as Midwest, Alaska, Hawaiian,Jet Blue will all be gone. So sad but but may be a real possibilty. Who would have ever thought that back in the hey day that Pan Am, TWA ( the two leagacy carries) Eastern, Braniff,etc… would all be gone. One would have laughed at that thought back then……………

By Sam

April 17, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

The corporate greed is being disguised and with the media and government affairs campaign of perfuming the pig will not undue the alienation of the employees of Northwest. There is a very real and high risk this venture will cause ALL involved much heartache and unnecessary pain. IF DELTA management does not acknowledge how treating some employees differently & seperately -as if red haired stepchildren- the ensuing acrimony will destroy any potential benefits - the ensuing plunge will take the company down a spiral never dreamed. Do you think they even grasp the magnitude of what damage has already been down?

By Airbusdriver

April 17, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

I’m sure no one cares but those pilots A NWA are the biggest losers in this deal thanks to the welcome aboard knife in the back from their ALPA brothers at Delta. Good luck to those two groups.

By M&A's always pay!!!

April 17, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this

I find it difficult to make sense from a logical/practical point of view as to the benefit of a merger to either of these companies in the current economic environment. I see fuel surpassing 125pbl this summer, and believe that alone spells unprecedented calamity for an industry that is currently suffering the effects of just the beginning of a weak cycle (dare I say the dreaded “r” word?). It appears the strategic benefit gained from a merger will be gone before it would even have a chance to see fruition. And fuel is only one component in the equation. There’s still the ongoing labor dispute, congressional turf-war, possible anti-trust hurdle, let alone working out the basic nut’s and bolt’s of two companies that currently operate using two completely different systems(which would be like converting one company from metric to standard). The plan seems flawed, and hasty, and at this point it’s just very hard to see the cost basis adding value, which seems to be reflected by both companies current stock performance. It appears that the only people that are excited are the exec.’s at both companies. I would prefer that both side’s bide their time more cautiously, and take a more conservative approach to such an auspicious endeavor.

By Rick

April 18, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

I don’t believe this is about merging two companies to make one global airline. I think executives and (major) shareholders see the bank doors open and nobody gaurding the vault. A rapid, massive profit at our expense.

By Ed

April 18, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

We at Delta support the present NWA folks in CVG and MSP who think they can not tolerate the move to DAL of moving South. You won’t have to. More later.

By Snowman

April 18, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

The combined carrier will be called DELTA. But the CEO, the poor service and employee infighting will all be classic old Northworst. Just look at how the two pilot groups are already fighting. Fasten you seatbelts Atlanta, your in for a bumpy ride.

By Payback NWA

April 18, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

I was fired from NWA in a mena harsh way!!! Its nice to know the industry I am in now the Natural gas industry took you all out! I must admit I never had problems with Delta except for a rude ugly employee bag smasher in Minneapolis who is in Virginia now that caused me to cancel my frequent flyer program with them!

By Atlanta mayor

April 18, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Snowman We can handle bumpy rides by smoothing them out. NWA troublemakers will be handled. End of story.

By Tigah

April 18, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

I see in today’s news that Delta has now hired scores of people and firms to help get this merger approved by the DOJ. How many millions is this going to cost while they’ve deferred any talk of 2008 pay raises for the people who ACTUALLY provide service for our passengers every day? They must be pretty scared that this is not going to go through without seriously greasing some palms along the way. The story says that the firms are full of former senior staffers from the Bush Adminstration and also include Trent Lott. Smells like a Haliburton type of deal to me. I hope that Continental/United announce a merger within the next month so that it will kill both deals, then Delta can dump Anderson and Bastian and bring back Whitehurst! Now that would be good for the morale of all Delta people!!

By Rick

April 18, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

I guess DL doesn’t have any troublemakers???

By Atlanta mayor

April 18, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Rick No. They have all chosen to move on.

By OLD DELTA GUY

April 18, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Well folks, now we know why there must be job cuts, pay freezes or cuts, benefit reductions, etc., for the new DAL workforce. Richard and Ed have decided that they will all be needed to provide a bundle to the multimillion dollar law firms, lobbiests, and politicians they are bringing on board. This added to the money still owed to the bankruptcy legal eagles will mean that all of them must get richer before they can become concerned with the workers. For such a “good deal” it sure seems to take a lot of outsiders to pull it off. Anderson and Bastian are stuffing their golden parachutes that they will use before Christmas. Big business has sunk to a new low. It’s a shame but it’s true.

By Rick

April 18, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Is there any gaurentee that they’ll get a golden parachute?

By OLD DELTA GUY

April 18, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

You bet your butt they will, even if we have to force it on them to get them to leave.

By Rick

April 18, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Thats not a sure thing, though.

By "C"BERRY

April 18, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

THIS WHOLE THING GETS CURIOUSER AND

CURIOUSER. THEY THINK APPROVAL OF THE

MERGER IS A SLAM DUNK, YET THEY HIRE

ALL THESE MONEY GRUBBERS TO LOBBY. I

GET A VERY UNCOMFORTABLE FEELING THAT

THIS MERGER COULD TURN INTO A “LEO

DEAL.”

I PRAY THAT “ALL” THE N/W PEOPLE,

AND THE DAL PEOPLE CAN FIND A WAY TO

WORK TOGETHER AND SAVE “THEIR”

AIRLINE. WORK HARD AND TAKE PRIDE.

WORKING FOR AN AIRLINE REALLY CAN BE

FUN AND NOT TOO HARD. IF EVERYONE

DOES JUST A LITTLE MORE THAN THEY

HAVE TO, THE JOB CAN BE FUN AND EASY.

By C-OLD SOUTHERN AIRWAYS GUY

April 18, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

“C”BERRY - I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY A “LEO DEAL” BUT I KNOW WHO IT REFERS TO…I’M JUST NOT SURE WHAT IT WAS THAT,HE DID…I KNOW YOU DON’T AGREE,BUT WITH A UNION YOU COULD DRAW A LINE…THEY MAY CROSS IT…AND YOU CAN DRAW ANOTHER…BUT AT SOME POINT YOU CAN DECLARE ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!…THE F/A’S ARE VOTING AND HAVE A SECOND VOTE SCHEDULED AFTER THE MERGER…PER THE DELTA F/A GUY HE’S THINKS SIR RICHARD WILL TRY WHAT HE TRIED AT NW…HIRE FOREIGN F/A’S TO WORK INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS…HAD HE HAD HIS WAY ALL INTER-ASIA FLIGHTS WOULD HAVE ASIAN F/A’S WITH 1 OR 2 AMERICANS ON BOARD TO INTERPRET FOR ENGLISH SPEAKING PASSENGERS…I THINK THIS SHOULD SCARE THE HELL OUT OF THE DELTA F/A’S…ENOUGH FOR THEM TO UNIONIZE…YOU ALREADY HAVE OUTSOURCE CARGO…WHAT’S NEXT…THE RAMP…DELTA GROUND SERVICES…CLOSE THE 40 CITIES NW HAS ALL NW EMPLOYEES EXCEPT THE HUBS…SO DL WILL HAVE ALL DL STAFF AT 18 STATIONS…DL MAINTEINCE WILL NEVER WORK ON AN AIRBUS 330 OR 747…UNLESS THEY CHANGE THEIR ADDRESS TO SINGAPORE OR HONG KONG…AND I BET THEY CAN OVERHAUL 777’S AND 767’S…LINE MAINTENANCE ONLY!…OUTSOURCING CAN MAKE IT WORK…PAY FOR GAS…MAKE THE INVESTORS AND M&A HAPPY!

By Rick

April 18, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

C-OLD, ‘bout time you brought your sorry *#@ in here. I’ve been on my own.

By "C"BERRY

April 18, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this

QUICKLY LET ME ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS

ABOUT LEO. FOR YEARS DAL PROMOTED FROM

WITHIN. LEO WAS ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS,

AND KNEW “NOTHING” OF THE AIRLINE

INDUSTRY. HE PROVES IT RATHER QUICKLY

ALONG WITH SOME OF HIS MANAGEMENT

CHOICES.

ON 9/11 THE GOING GOT TOUGH, AND

LEO AND HIS PACK OF THIEVES GOT GOING

FOR THEIR PARACHUTES. IT WAS THE

WORST RAPING EVER DAL GOT—EVER. BUT

WHAT DO I KNOW? I ONLY SPENT 36 YEARS

IN THREE DEPARTMENTS.

YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY PRO-UNION, AND

I’D RATHER SANDPAPER A GRIZZLY BEAR’S

ASS BEFORE I’D JOIN ONE. I HAVE MANY

MANY REASONS FOR MY FEELINGS AS WELL

AS YOU. MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, WE CAN

AGREE TO DISAGREE.

IN A NUTSHELL LET ME EXPLAIN. I

KEPT MY JOB BECAUSE I DID IT WELL,

MAYBE BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE COULD.

I DIDN’T NEED SOME KISS ASS UNION

THUG TO KEEP IT FOR ME. I WILL GLADLY

EXPOUND WITH EXAMPLES IF YOU CHOOSE

THAT COURSE.

By 4Real

April 18, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

Well CBerry, You and your gay grizzly bear should be seen in the local Home Depot picking out sandpaper but I will vote IN the union 100%. Times have changed and Delta has changed with it! The Delta family is DEAD!

By "C"BERRY

April 18, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

DEAR 3 REAL,

I’VE SEEN THE LIKES OF YOU BEFORE,

AND I,M SURE I’LL SEE IT AGAIN. THERE

IS STUPID AND THERE IS IGNORANT.

THERE IS A CURE FOR IGNORANT. THERE

IS NO CURE FOR STUPID. IF YOU WERE

IGNORANT, THEN NO EXPLANATION WOULD

BE NECESSARY.

I’VE SAID IT MANY TIMES, AND I WILL

CONRINUE TO SAY IT, ONIONS ARE FOR

LOOSERS AND TROUBLEMAKERS. YOU, SIR,

CAN BEND OVER AND SANDPAPER WHICH

EVER END COMES FIRST. THE SAME S__IT

CCMES OUT OF BOTH ENDS.

By OLD DELTA GUY

April 18, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

C-OLD SOUTHERN AIRWAYS GUY….I join Rick in wondering where the hell you were. Glad to have you back.

By C-OLD SOUTHERN AIRWAYS GUY

April 18, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this

“C”BERRY-I’D LIKE TO TELL YOU WHAT I DO AT NW BUT I’M AFRAID TOO…I’M NOT SUPPOSE TO AIR NW DIRTY LAUNDRY IN AN OPENED FORUM…BUT I WORK IN CUSTOMER SERVICE…AND I HAVE A VERY SPECIALIZED JOB WORKING WITH SEVERAL CLASSIFICATIONS OF NW WORKERS AND TWO GOVERMENT AGENCIES…I HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT MOTIVATING PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF MY CLASSIFICATIONS TO DO MORE… I HAVE A MANAGER THAT TELLS ME THAT HE HATES TO SEE ME GO ON VACATION…HE GAVE ME 3 TICKETS TO SEE THE TWINS BEAT THE BRAVES LAST YEAR…I SAT BETWEEN HIM A TWO OTHER MINNESOTANS ( THEY’RE WORST AT WINNING THAN LOSING )…I GOT ANOTHER MANAGER THAT’S AN ARROGANT A@#HOLE…SURELY DELTA HAS A FEW TRYING TO MAKE A NAME FOR THEMSELVES…I DO MY JOB WELL…BUT NOT ALL MANAGERS DO THEIR JOB WELL!…THAT’S WHY I WANT A UNION!

THANKS RICK AND OLD DELTA GUY…I LIKED THE OLD FORUM BETTER ALL THE CRABBY PASSENGER STOPPED PIPING IN …THEY DEPRESS ME WITH THEIR WORRY ABOUT TICKET PRICES AND MILEAGE…THEY ARE SELFISH,THINK WE SHOULD KISS THEIR A@# AND MAKE $8.00 AN HR. WHILE SMILING!

I LIKE IT WHEN US REGULARS TALK!

By styx

April 19, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

gay grizzly bear in home depot! That’s hilarious!

CBerry: From your statement one could make the assumption that all airlines, with the exception of DL and Jetblue, are filled with unionized losers and troublemakers?

That in itself is stupid! DL + NW = Unionized workeforce!

Get over it already, Grizzly!

BTW, it’s losers and continue, not loosers and conrinue, stupid!

By styx

April 19, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

gay grizzly bear in home depot! That’s hilarious!

CBerry: From your statement one could make the assumption that all airlines, with the exception of DL and Jetblue, are filled with unionized losers and troublemakers?

That in itself is stupid! DL + NW = Unionized workforce!

Get over it already, Grizzly!

BTW, it’s losers and continue, not loosers and conrinue, stupid!

By no stockcar racing

April 19, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

cberry, You’ve got the worst benefits in the aviation industry and 4real is stoopid? Heck, Airtan’s pay is higher!

By Rick

April 19, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

CVG4evr, thank you…FOR THAT VERY ACCURATE POST.

By F/A in Atlanta

April 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

I just read the story that was written after Northwest filed a Regulatory Filing that will give Steenland at NW well over 11 million dollars as a golden parachute should he stay through the completion of the merger. There were those who doubted the golden parachutes that executives would receive. If Steenland will get over 11 million, how much do you think Anderson will get after completion of the merger? Any doubt about who this merger benefits should be extinguished by this report. Delta people struggle to make ends meet after drastic cuts in pay and benefits and these guys just keep riding it to the bank over and over and over again. Sad, really sad!

By old timer

April 19, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

I wish UA and CO would announce their merger plans so everybody could start lambasting them, telling us how sorry and crooked they are, and give DL and NW a break.

By Rick

April 19, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

But is there any GAURANTEE that any of them will get a golden parachute?

By tired worker

April 19, 2008 2:16 PM |