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‘Why Do Black Men Date White Women?’

First-time filmmaker Erik Gordon looked into the faces of a full crowd of mostly African American females and said exactly what I would have said if I had made his movie, “Why Do Black Men Date White Women?”

“Please,” he told the crowd, “don’t attack me!”

Fortunately, nobody did. Not physically.

Over the years, I’ve seen a lot of films that have played at the National Black Arts Festival’s Pan African Film Festival. Movies about Mozambique and Ghana, soul-searching documentaries and soul-wrenching dramas (certainly, this year’s violent and gripping “A Goat’s Tail” comes to mind).

But by its title alone, Gordon’s film, shown on Friday at the High Museum of Art’s Hill Auditorium, seemed like a no-brainer must-see. He dares to look at a cultural reality that while not exactly prominent, certainly does exist and makes us ask who are we and why are we the way we are.

What Gordon did was to take a camera through various parts of Atlanta, thrust it into people’s faces and boldly ask them the title’s question.

What did we learn from his film?

1. Several people say black women are independent, strong and intimidating. When approached in a club, one man says, black women are immediately defensive. Let’s quote him quoting them immediately after his pickup line: “‘Why the hell are you talking to me?’”

2. White women, one man says, will ask you if you want a massage. “Sisters,” he says, “don’t ask you nothing. They want to know how much money you got.”

3. “White women,” one astute young man voices, “will get up after sex and make you a sandwich.”

Good point.

I don’t know that Gordon, who attended college in Atlanta and lives in California, found definitive answers we can rely upon. Some of the reactions he got cannot be revealed on a family newspaper’s website. But you know what I am talking about.

The ultimate point, he says, was to get dialogue started.

So, what do you think? Why do some black men date white women? Is it relevant? Does it matter? Shouldn’t people date whomever they want?

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By delois

July 30, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this

White women seem to use birth control more frequently.

By Andrea

July 30, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

To answer the last question - this question is totally not relevant. If a black man dates a white woman and he has genuine feelings for her, then that is his business. If a black man deliberately seeks out a white woman because he assumes she is better than the black woman, then he is carrying some kind of baggage or issues from a previous dating or relationship experience that he has not dealt with. I haven’t seen the movie, but the snippets featured in the article are trivial at best. I am sure the movie may uncover something of more substance than a sandwich after sex.

By ...Wow

July 30, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

Wtf is this load of crap.

By What??

July 30, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

Most White woman that date black men are usually white trash or they want to be black. There are exceptions though but that is the majority I see. Most of the white women have several black baby daddy’s. I know some white men that date black woman, reason why, is because black woman usually take care of the family more and are not as needy as white woman.

By Ysis Papers

July 30, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

SELF-HATE

By DebbieDoRight

July 30, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

Easy: Because they want to!! There that should end the debate.

By baddog

July 30, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this

Never dated a white women would like to try but don’t feel like i have anything in common with them. Maybe I do but I think they are scared of black men when you come to them so I just don’t bother

By E

July 30, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this

Most black women want you to have the car, house, $$ when they meet you the 1st time, but most white women have $$ so they not in the streets looking for a man w/ it, because daddy will provide….& most ballplayers/men are going to go for the woman w/ the daddy thats a lawyer instead of the opposite - everything is big buisness even realationships

By I work with them

July 30, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

I’m a white female in Atlanta. I work with a lot of young black women and I can tell you the answer. As a group, they are usually downright crabby and intolerant of anyone messing with them. They are distrustful, bitchy and lazy. It seems like the are all out to find a man to treat them like a princess. I have never seen a more spoiled group of brats as the 20 to early 30’s black women in my workplace.

By SummerG

July 30, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

I totally agree with Andrea! If a Black man falls in love with a white woman then by all means it’s good, but if it is for the purpose of assuming that white women are better than there is an issue

By E

July 30, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

Most black women want you to have the car, house, $$ when they meet you the 1st time, but most white women have $$ so they not in the streets looking for a man w/ it, because daddy will provide….& most ballplayers/men are going to go for the woman w/ the daddy thats a lawyer instead of the opposite - everything is big buisness even realationships

By E

July 30, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

Most black women want you to have the car, house, $$ when they meet you the 1st time, but most white women have $$ so they not in the streets looking for a man w/ it, because daddy will provide….& most ballplayers/men are going to go for the woman w/ the daddy thats a lawyer instead of the opposite - everything is big buisness even realationships

By E

July 30, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

Most black women want you to have the car, house, $$ when they meet you the 1st time, but most white women have $$ so they not in the streets looking for a man w/ it, because daddy will provide….& most ballplayers/men are going to go for the woman w/ the daddy thats a lawyer instead of the opposite - everything is big buisness even realationships

By E

July 30, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

Most black women want you to have the car, house, $$ when they meet you the 1st time, but most white women have $$ so they not in the streets looking for a man w/ it, because daddy will provide….& most ballplayers/men are going to go for the woman w/ the daddy thats a lawyer instead of the opposite - everything is big buisness even realationships

By E

July 30, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

Most black women want you to have the car, house, $$ when they meet you the 1st time, but most white women have $$ so they not in the streets looking for a man w/ it, because daddy will provide….& most ballplayers/men are going to go for the woman w/ the daddy thats a lawyer instead of the opposite - everything is big buisness even realationships

By E

July 30, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

Most black women want you to have the car, house, $$ when they meet you the 1st time, but most white women have $$ so they not in the streets looking for a man w/ it, because daddy will provide….& most ballplayers/men are going to go for the woman w/ the daddy thats a lawyer instead of the opposite - everything is big buisness even realationships

By BB

July 30, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

According to some studies—who knows if they are accurate or not—the “ultimate” woman for most men in Western culture is a young, tall, thin, busty, blond woman. Think Nicole Simpson. Or Barbie.

By V

July 30, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

I appreciate open dialogue and topics like these but some of the comments so far are ignorant. I am a product of a white woman and black man relationship. My parents started dating because they liked each other. Then that turned into love and they eventually got married and have been married for 40 years. Really people, can’t we get beyond this whole race issue! It’s ridiculous.

By E

July 30, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

I feel the same way Baddog

By E

July 30, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

I feel the same way Baddog

By E

July 30, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

I feel the same way Baddog

By E

July 30, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

I feel the same way Baddog

By E

July 30, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

I feel the same way Baddog

By Angel

July 30, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

From what I’ve heard from African American men is that dating white women cuts down on all of the drama associated with dating a black one. I’ve also been told that black men tend to think white women will do more for them. I totally agree with Andrea about having the baggage from a previous relationship. Not every person will treat you as the previous one did and it definately does not depend on race. There are some black women that will not bring a lot of drama and all the other bull just as there are some white women that will and it’s sad to say but a lot of our “brothers” are so naieve.. It’s each individual’s preference.

By Steve

July 30, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

It’s a trophy thing. Trouble is, with the exception of sports stars, musicians, and Denzel Washington look-alikes, most black guys end up with white chicks who you take to McDonalds and they have to change the sign when you leave. (My apologies to young folks and Clatyon County residents for that somewhat dated and hard to follow pop culture reference.)

Another funny thing is just who gets the most pi##ed off by black men dating white women. You’d think it would be white (racist) men, but it’s not. It’s black women, who already have a small enough pool in which to find a good looking, educated man with a J-O-B and can’t for the life of them figure out why the few good black men out there are chasing white girls. Trust me—go to any upscale restaurant in Atlanta, and watch a handsome black man walk in with a white chick on his arm—the icy stares are coming from the sistas, not the white guys in the crowd.

By ATLBIGBOI

July 30, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

I think part of the problem has been given in the previous blog. Some black women have an attitude or air about them that makes men reluctant to approach them . I dont claim to have all the answers but as a black man who’s only dealt with black women I can say that when you deal with a black woman you are dealing with any and every wrong they feel they been dealt in life. If you treat someone like they’ve already done something to you then eventually they will. Black women are combative, argumentative and unforgiving, if you can deal with these issues and others that I havent mentioned then you will be fine. That being said as I stated earlier I’ve only been with black women and am able to be with them because I was raised by a black woman. For all you women who can’t handle the truth and want to bash me for this blog just remember the truth hurts and we as black men have MANY MANY MANY issues as well, but that is not what this blog is about

By Chris

July 30, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

Who wouldn’t want to date a hot white woman. I am a white man and I find many black women attractive, but I’ve never had the desire to date or sleep with one. But all women are beautiful. to each his own.IMO

By Dave

July 30, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

A better question would be: Why do white women date blacks?

By ATLBIGBOI

July 30, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

I think part of the problem has been given in the previous blog. Some black women have an attitude or air about them that makes men reluctant to approach them . I dont claim to have all the answers but as a black man who’s only dealt with black women I can say that when you deal with a black woman you are dealing with any and every wrong they feel they been dealt in life. If you treat someone like they’ve already done something to you then eventually they will. Black women are combative, argumentative and unforgiving, if you can deal with these issues and others that I havent mentioned then you will be fine. That being said as I stated earlier I’ve only been with black women and am able to be with them because I was raised by a black woman. For all you women who can’t handle the truth and want to bash me for this blog just remember the truth hurts and we as black men have MANY MANY MANY issues as well, but that is not what this blog is about

By That guy

July 30, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

www.blackmenvent.com Diary of a tired Black man http://www.castlestudio.net/tbm/forums/index.php

And a lot of it is not self hate like Ysis Papers says. Most Black women cost too much to date or have standards that are crazy. They want a 6’0” guy that makes over $100,000. Then they want him to be Black. And others want you to pay their mortgage. Or take out a loan for theirs using your car as collateral. Others just reject most guys that come around.

It’s easier and cheaper to date a woman of another race than to buy “thug clothes” and rims. For the price of the rims, I could fly to another country and have a great vacation.

There is so much more to it, but I have so little time to do it here.

By aa

July 30, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

As a african-american.. Black men date white women for reassurance. Thats it. The Black woman doesnt respect the black man. I dont agree with it, but I have noticed that Black woman ask for too much. I love my sisters and brothers, I have never dated a white man and have no intentions on, but it is what it is. Black women need to be more accepting, who cares if he doesnt have a lot of money, or a nice car. Respect is the answer. Until we learn that, White women will always take our men. and for that idiot(I work with them) you are a typical stupid white woman who we dislike. Black women are hardworking..Your jealous because I am sure they look better, and are smarter than you..

By a sensible black woman

July 30, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

First of all, all of this is ridiculous. I attended school with Erik Gordon. He has always been the type who would make a great deal out of his life. So, I am proud of him for being able to produce and direct a film. However, I am not quite sure if I am jumping up and down over the topic. The sad reality is that no one has bothered to comment on why most black women are bitter (be it right or wrong). Have we forgotten that we (black women) were made to care for our families without the strength of Daddy being in the home? Not because he was in jail or hanging in the streets, but because he had to leave home to find work. Have we forgotten that slave-master belittled and disrespected our men in front of us for the sole purpose of dwindling our faith in our men being able to protect us. Have we forgotten that society still operates in institutional racism and it’s kind of hard for our men to attract those 6 figure income positions even though they are highly qualified? And less we forget that there are some plain ol’ immature and ignorant black women who haven’t learned how to properly direct their aggression. As a black woman I do get upset when I see black men with white women. I get upset because I feel as if our black family structure will not have a fighting chance if both black men and women don’t decide to get their acts together and regain control of our families and communities. And black men stop making good black women pay for the mistakes of some crazy black women and please know that all white women ain’t right either!!!!

By KNF

July 30, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

AA: you just proved the point “I work with them” was trying to make.

By Tim in Louisville

July 30, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

Several of the responses above are ignorant, but we’re all entitled to our opinions. In any event, black men date white women because they are (get this) “women.” Whoaaaaa. I know that’s wild concept for a lot of people to follow, but really, that’s why. Plus, their sex is just as good as the next woman.

Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!

By Tim in Louisville

July 30, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

Several of the responses above are ignorant, but we’re all entitled to our opinions. In any event, black men date white women because they are (get this) “women.” Whoaaaaa. I know that’s a wild concept for a lot of people to follow, but really, that’s why. Plus, their sex is just as good as the next woman.

Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!

By ATLBIGBOI

July 30, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

AA as I stated in my previous blog there are many other issues that I didnt mention. I could not agree with your comment on the respect issue more that leads back to my previous comment about black women being combative,argumentative and unforgiving. The relationship between black men and women will never improve until our women respect us….this is not a generalized comment I am only directing this to the women it applies to there are VERY good black women out there however as black women like to say ” the pool is very limited”

By CMS

July 30, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

I’ve dated both black and white women, and in my opinion the differences are slight at best. The common perception that black women bring more drama is entirely true. Any time I hear brotha mentioning this I have to bring it to thier attention because they’re only misleading themselves. In general WOMEN bring drama, regardless of race … you can’t escape it. It all depends on what kind of drama you want to deal with.

If you’re a black dude considering approaching or dating a white woman, get ready to deal with interracial drama that’s gonna take some thick skin to deal with. If the woman is worth it by all means go ahead, but if you’re not ready to handle that type of drama from all sides don’t put yourself through the stress.

By ATLBIGBOI

July 30, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

AA as I stated in my previous blog there are many other issues that I didnt mention. I could not agree with your comment on the respect issue more that leads back to my previous comment about black women being combative,argumentative and unforgiving. The relationship between black men and women will never improve until our women respect us….this is not a generalized comment I am only directing this to the women it applies to there are VERY good black women out there however as black women like to say ” the pool is very limited”

By Steven

July 30, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

slowly walks out of room

By That guy

July 30, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

www.blackmenvent.com Diary of a tired Black man http://www.castlestudio.net/tbm/forums/index.php

And a lot of it is not self hate like Ysis Papers says. Most Black women cost too much to date or have standards that are crazy. They want a 6’0” guy that makes over $100,000. Then they want him to be Black. And others want you to pay their mortgage. Or take out a loan for theirs using your car as collateral. Others just reject most guys that come around.

It’s easier and cheaper to date a woman of another race than to buy “thug clothes” and rims. For the price of the rims, I could fly to another country and have a great vacation.

There is so much more to it, but I have so little time to do it here.

By CMS

July 30, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

I’ve dated both black and white women, and in my opinion the differences are slight at best. The common perception that black women bring more drama is entirely true. Any time I hear brotha mentioning this I have to bring it to thier attention because they’re only misleading themselves. In general WOMEN bring drama, regardless of race … you can’t escape it. It all depends on what kind of drama you want to deal with.

If you’re a black dude considering approaching or dating a white woman, get ready to deal with interracial drama that’s gonna take some thick skin to deal with. If the woman is worth it by all means go ahead, but if you’re not ready to handle that type of drama from all sides don’t put yourself through the stress.

By Steve

July 30, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Good Lord, sensible black woman, how old are you????? To be able to remember your slave master belittling your man, not to mention the days of sharecropping when black men had to leave home to find work……I’m guessing you’re what, about 175?

Maybe another reason black men shy away from black women is their (black women like yourself) inability to accept responsibility for their own lives and the resultant tendencies to blame everything on the white man or the system.

It’s 2007. Time for you to take control of your life.

By Popo

July 30, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

I started dating white women when I was much younger, when most black girls weren’t interested in me because I wanted to go to Europe and read long books and such. They always rather liked the tough-looking dirrty south types. Maybe that’s just the folly of youth, though.

By JoJo

July 30, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

Why even have this blog? All it will do is invite ignorant, hate-filled people to spew their mess in print. It’s amazing how people can lump groups together like everyone all think and act alike simply because of ethnicity.

And to the person who described the black women that they work with as distrustful b* and lazy….that is found is most offices regardless of race. I’ve worked with mostly white women and met plenty of distrustful, lazy b* as well. It’s not about race, it’s individual personalities.

By Steve

July 30, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

Good Lord, sensible black woman, how old are you????? To be able to remember your slave master belittling your man, not to mention the days of sharecropping when black men had to leave home to find work……I’m guessing you’re what, about 175?

Maybe another reason black men shy away from black women is their (black women like yourself) inability to accept responsibility for their own lives and the resultant tendencies to blame everything on the white man or the system.

It’s 2007. Time for you to take control of your life.

By whatsthebigdeal

July 30, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

As a African American Man I have had the good pleasure of dating a white women. I used good pleasure to describe the experience because she was attractive, nice and most of all she treated me with respect and kindness. As a man I feel that I could date a women of any race with those qualities. Hell all races of women have baggage it’s about finding the person not the color.

By CMS

July 30, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

Correction: The common perception that black women bring too much drama is not entirely true.

Dave did pose an interesting question though Why do white women date black guys?

And why is it so hard for black men and black women to get along?

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

Yeah, what Steve said.

Granted, there are quite a few Black women doing things right. And they usually don’t care about other people’s relationships. Some even date gasp White men. Or Asian men. Or even men in general.

But really, in Atlanta, I don’t find that many Black Woman open to a relationship with a 5’8 black guy who is probably graduating soon.

And some Black guys get tired of or don’t engage in the “thug culture”.

I refused to play “dress up”. I saw things for what they were. I just wanted to be myself. That doesn’t attract a lot of Black women, but it works fine for women in general.

By Greg

July 30, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Leave it to AJC’s website to post a stupid topic like this. This just invites nothing but ignorant comments. Who gives a damn about who you want to date? We need to be beyond this as a discussion topic.

By monique

July 30, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

What about the black woman who takes care of her man, when in jail and out. What about the lazy BLACK MAN!!! yes i said it! Black men are always looking for a free ride!! And we as black women are tired of taking care of a lazy ass grown ass men!!! So if you want a white woman I don’t care!!!!!!!! Black women are not angry or loud just TIRED!!!!!!!! Of being the bread winner all the time!!!!!!

By mike

July 30, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

black women have alot of growing to do!! It is not just about white women it is asian women, hispanic women any other race of women that a black man has dealt with is better than the AMERICAN black female because the average one of them are looking for a millionaire instead of valuing their race and family. Black women have the highest statistics of single mothers why is that? Because the average one of them are mentally deformed where no man want to deal with them. Black women try and paint this picture about black men this and that but black men have decided to move on with real sensible women.

By Carla

July 30, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

I think it’s inappropriate for you all to say Black women are this and Black women are that. Say the one’s you’ve had contact with. There are so many educated, beautiful, independent, and drama free Black women in this world. How can you possibly lump them all together.

I have a coworker who has children with a Black woman and children with a White woman. Most of his drama comes from the White mother of his kids. Drama is colorless.

If a Black man wants to date a White woman, I don’t care. We love who we love no matter their color. Why can’t we just leave it at that?

By DM

July 30, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

After a cetain age all black females become members of the black male put-down / haters club, who needs them? Most of them can even get along with other black females.

By Cindy

July 30, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

Since when does skin color determine your character? As for me, accepting a date from a black man was something I never considered until I was asked. Then I had to choose to accept him for who he is, or refuse because of how he looks. It isn’t always easy to do what you know is right when so many people judge on looks only.Sad.

By blakgirl

July 30, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

As a black woman who lived in Atlanta for ten years, I found myself dating more white and Jewish men simply because I got tired of all black men calling black women gold diggers and threatening me that they’ll leave me for a white woman. News Flash to all men, “all woman are gold diggers! It’s just how much they are willing to dig for and to go after.

By Cindy

July 30, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

Since when does skin color determine your character? As for me, accepting a date from a black man was something I never considered until I was asked. Then I had to choose to accept him for who he is, or refuse because of how he looks. It isn’t always easy to do what you know is right when so many people judge on looks only.Sad.

By my 2 cents

July 30, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

I think the answer is as individual as the couples involved. There’s no way for anyone to lump EVERY ONE of an ethnic group. Just say, all the [ones] I know. No one can speak to or for the entire race of blacks or whites or gays, or Asians, or Africans, etc. To each his own and I think everyone would have a different answer. How ‘bout this? Different strokes for different folks. Why is that such a problem. Why does everyone have to be lumped into any one category. Don’t we all have free minds and free will?

By Terrell in the ATL

July 30, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

Oh, let met count the ways……

*You can understand most white women when they speak.

  • White women have few tattoos.

*More white women have jobs and can help pay for the date.

*White women are less bossy.

Fewer white women *still support Mike Vick

*White girls taste and smell better ( Yeah, you know what I’m saying. )

*White women seem less likely to take you on Maury Povich for a paternity test.

*You are less likely to run into a white girl’s Baby Daddy when you take her to THE VARSITY on a date.

*White women are generally less violent.

*While I may love booty, sometimes, LESS is MORE

*More white women realize how RIDICULOUS ‘corn rows’ look

*More white women read and follow current events, allowing you to actually discuss world issues or political matters that don’t include “monthly government assistance.”

*White females seem to have fewer “Gold Diggaz” per capita

By sharon

July 30, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Topics such as this allows people to post ignorant mean spirited comments. For every derogatory adjective used to describe black women, I can show you a white woman with those same qualities. You have bitchy, distrustful, lazy, fat, ugly, loud, uneducated etc. women of all races. As a matter of fact we just fired a white woman because she couldn’t carry her work load. It is ignorant to genralize and stereotype. I personally don’t care who dates who because I have my own life to live and don’t have the time to try to understand why this person dates this person. I can only focus on my relationships. As far as the people who say black women are less tolerable, well I don’t see nothing wrong with wanting my man to be educated, working, intelligent and well groomed. If you are dating a woman that wants “rims, pay her motagage, urban clothes”, then you need to look else where for your women.

By V

July 30, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

To “Sensible” white man

You know what should be illegal and punished by relocating to another PLANET, ignorant people like you.

By J.Maddox

July 30, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Several reasons, some are just attracted to only WW; some like having WW because they were never able to get one ; some like being the main one in control, most BW won’t allow this and require equality and a lot of BM want the WW to take care of them and take whatever they dish out. Some will let a WW (especially the heavy ones)take care of them and they won’t do anything

By sharon

July 30, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

Topics such as this allows people to post ignorant mean spirited comments. For every derogatory adjective used to describe black women, I can show you a white woman with those same qualities. You have bitchy, distrustful, lazy, fat, ugly, loud, uneducated etc. women of all races. As a matter of fact we just fired a white woman because she couldn’t carry her work load. It is ignorant to genralize and stereotype. I personally don’t care who dates who because I have my own life to live and don’t have the time to try to understand why this person dates this person. I can only focus on my relationships. As far as the people who say black women are less tolerable, well I don’t see nothing wrong with wanting my man to be educated, working, intelligent and well groomed. If you are dating a woman that wants “rims, pay her motagage, urban clothes”, then you need to look else where for your women.

By Who cares why

July 30, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

Who cares why it is? Its a good thing that Black men can date white women openly and without fear of violent reactions. Its a good thing that Black women can date white men too. Hell, isn’t this why we marched in the streets to begin with? So that we could bind our lives together? The better question is why wouldn’t black men date white women? Why wouldn’t black women date white men?

By NEFERKARE

July 30, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Black males date caucasian women because Black males lost the knowledge of themselves. This is nothing new. In Genesis 6:2 “The sons of God(Black Males) saw the daughters of men (whites) that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose”. Since the year 2000, it is OUR TIME and the time of the great AWAKENING, so Black males who are awake would never date caucasians. also see www.pyramidoftruth.com and listen to pyramid of truth at www.live365.com

By Steve

July 30, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Damn, Terrell, I hope you don’t ever want to date another black woman, ‘cause if they find out who you are….

Seriously, though, for all you black women out who are bobbing your head, wagging your finger, and doing your best Shanaynay impression of “you go, girl!!!” in response to Sensible Black Woman, remember this:

Men want a woman, not Malcom X in drag. Lose the $400 braid job, the $150 nails, the tats, the ghetto mannerisms, and most of all, the ATTITUDE. You can still be sassy, have your own life, insist your man treat you a certain way, etc, etc, etc, but in the end, you have to be a WOMAN. If we want revolutionaries, we’ll move to El Salvador.

By V

July 30, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

To “Sensible” White Man” You know what should be illegal and punishable by relocating to another planet, ignorant people like you.

Terrell Sounds like you’ve been meeting the wrong types of black women, that, or you have lumped all black women in the same group. All of the characteristics you have listed, can be applied to white women as well. Unless you have taken a poll of every white woman in America, your “facts” are unfounded.

By NEFERKARE

July 30, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

Black males date caucasian women because Black males lost the knowledge of themselves. This is nothing new. In Genesis 6:2 “The sons of God(Black Males) saw the daughters of men (whites) that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose”. Since the year 2000, it is OUR TIME and the time of the great AWAKENING, so Black males who are awake would never date caucasians. also see www.pyramidoftruth.com and listen to pyramid of truth at www.live365.com

By NEFERKARE

July 30, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

Black males date caucasian women because Black males lost the knowledge of themselves. This is nothing new. In Genesis 6:2 “The sons of God(Black Males) saw the daughters of men (whites) that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose”. Since the year 2000, it is OUR TIME and the time of the great AWAKENING, so Black males who are awake would never date caucasians. also see www.pyramidoftruth.com and listen to pyramid of truth at www.live365.com

By NCC

July 30, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

I’m surprised that noone has talked about physical preferences. It is a well known steriotype that black men are perceived to be “larger” then white men, who are in turn larger than asian men. You rarely see white women dating asian men, but you see them go for black men all the time. It’s all about the pipe.

By Dave

July 30, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

In general in the south its an issue of identity and which group you see yourself as being a part of. Few white people in Georgia are racist anymore and most of them are not natives and came here from the north. Most black people see themselves as a black person first. This is not the case with white people. So when a black man dates a white woman, the black women think, he needs to date his owm people (like the racists if the 60’s) but white men don’t usually even notice it, its not how we think.

By That guy

July 30, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

In response to Steve about “you have to be a woman”.

I don’t know about that. I know a Belgian chick bent on conquering me. She likes equality and we are both feminists. Thing is …she actually listens to me. She doesn’t call me “White”. We have the same interests. And she is much more fun to be around.

By anonymousella

July 30, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

hmmm… is it at all possible that there’s some self-fulfilling prophecy at work here? or at least some ‘you attract what are’ happening?

i mean if the first thing out of your mouth is “hey gu’l, whatcho name is,” “where yo’ man at?” or “girl, you shouldn’t neva have to pay fo’ yo’ dranks looking as fiiiiine as you look” — and, yes, all have been said to me — why wouldn’t you expect some attitude in return?

and if the first thing out of your mouth is “i own my own home. i drive a bmw. i have an MBA. i go to brazil twice a year. and i have a thing for $500 cell phones,” don’t be surprised if all of the women you attract are into your wallet.

and perhaps if these men complaining of the infamous black women’s attitude had a clue and waited for a cue before approaching a woman (like eye contact and a smile?) they wouldn’t be met with such a chilly reception.

and men, please believe this: every woman wants a man who ain’t broke. white women may be more subtle with their gold digging, but they are most definitely digging.

By tony

July 30, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

There are several reasons I’ve dated white women

  1. there are so damn many of them they’re hard to ignore

  2. the white women that get my attention take very good care of themselves. they work out, eat right and dress well. too many Black women are overweight, have food fetishes and think getting their hair and nails done makes them more attractive than being physically fit.

  3. a nice looking white woman is more approachable than a nice looking Black woman. nice looking Black women get so much attention their guard goes up automatically whereas nice looking white women seem to invite attention.

  4. white women, nice looking or otherwise, are straight up freaks in bed, nymphs, insatiable. when they find someone that can hit it right and often they sink their claws in as deep as possible and hold on for as long as they can. Black women in general don’t really seem to know how to just enjoy a good f***, to let go and bust a few orgasims, not until you know them for a while anyway and then there’s nobody better. but white women get it while they can and don’t hold back.

having said that I will say that I love Black women and prefer Black women over white. a physically fit Black woman who is open minded is like heaven on earth to be with.

By Codes

July 30, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

To I work with them, your comments about black women was stupid. Black men will date you for your dumb remark so they can feel good about themselves; and justify well she is to dumb to know I am using her for her $,my daily living expenses, child support for my babies etc. Whereas the black women in your office has worked hard to get an education, budget their money and plan well for their future. They are not going to let anyone take them around the way. By the way my daughter is one of those women; college educated,(BS and Master in 5 years)young and gifted.

By CMS

July 30, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Dang, yall … this can’t turn into Bash a Black Girl Day! As a black man I realize my issues and constantly try to improve them, but they are what they are … I also know of several black women who will admit the same. Earlier I posed the question as to why black men and women don’t get along … I guess it is obvious that our communication problems result from a general lack of respect for one another.

Ultimately respect is earned … and it is actually simple to earn it. But there are times as a black man there are times where I feel I haven’t earned the respect of every black woman I have encountered regardless of what I do. It’s a slap in the face to bust your ass at work (in fact work two jobs)to try to make a good life yourself and SO to only be told that something is missing. To add insult to injury that something missing was simply a little thug in your life…but that’s another story. Sometimes its easier to be disrespectful if you feel you’re gonna get a little respect in return.

By shirley

July 30, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

I know for a fact black “people” do not like to see someone go out of their race. I also know the majority of white woman seen with black men are fat sloppy blondes, usually with their stomach’s hanging just above their knees. Their boobs are almost “nill” or else peeping out from under their arms or just hanging out. It’s sad to see each race is fading out… The children suffer as well.

By bruh man

July 30, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Not that I date white women, but alot of black women are too judgemental.

By Steve

July 30, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

That guy:

Yours appears to be more of a “one off” situation. My point is that MOST men are looking for a woman to share their lives with, not an angry, screeching, preaching, ethno-centric, what-have-you-done-for-me-lately feminazi.

Of course, I could be wrong….

By anonymousella

July 30, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

@anonymousella “and perhaps if these men complaining of the infamous black women’s attitude had a clue and waited for a cue before approaching a woman (like eye contact and a smile?) they wouldn’t be met with such a chilly reception.”

I thought that was called Customer Service or just being “nice”.

By bruh man

July 30, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

Not that I date white women, but alot of black women are too judgemental.

By DebbieDoRight

July 30, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

Oh please!! A lot of comments here are just, dare I say it, IGNORANT!!

Black men date white women because they want to. PERIOD. All the other crap that some black men bring into the equation is just a smoke screen.

Dennis Rodman, “Black women are gold diggers” This man was brought up by a single parent, (his father was a no show all his life), who worked THREE JOBS to support him and his sisters. If black women were such gold diggers than why are Black women on the bottom of the socio-economic scale?

Poster “A white woman will fix you a sandiwch after sex.” A black woman will too, if the sex was any good. IF it wasn’t then she’ll tell you to get up and fix her a sandwich. If a black woman has never fixed you a sandwich after sex, perhaps you should check yourself.

Poster “The black women I work with at my office are rude” Hopefully you are intelligent enough to know that not ALL black women are rude - just as not ALL white women are addicted to plastic surgery.

Poster “After a cetain age all black females become members of the black male put-down / haters club” REALITY: The number one cause of AIDS in black women are BLACK MEN posing as heterosexuals and/or in polygamous relationships with other women. The number one cause of bad credit for black women are BLACK MEN; who’ve they’ve tried to help out by co-signing, or extending credit to who then in turn turn around and abuse their trust. The number one cause of single parent homes with dead beat parents in the black community are BLACK MEN; who make up every excuse in the book why they can’t pay for their own children. BLACK WOMEN have single handedly tried to raise whole generations of black youths by themselves with little or NO HELP from their black “baby daddies”.

Do black women have issues? SURE! Wouldn’t you? When you’re told every day by the media that your curves are ugly, that your lips are too big, that your hair should be straight in order to be deemed beautiful. Then you turn around and see other cultures going to plastic surgeons to get those big lips, big butts and big boobs that they’ve just told you were ugly on you.

Why do black men date white women? Because they want to. End of story.

By mel

July 30, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

I agree with Dave…I would like to know why white women date black men.

Why doesn’t anyone ever ask this question? Are people afraid of the answer?

What about why white men date Asian women? Or Why they order brides from other countries?

The core issue is that black men are the only race of men who continually put down their women in the media. Black men aren’t the only ones who date interacially, but they are the only ones who fall for the okey-doke EVERY SINGLE TIME. This is just fodder for all the racists and self-haters. They love this stuff. It’s a minstrel show.

Black men, wake up! I am a black woman married to a wonderful black man, and I don’t care who you date, but I really wish you would take a cue from your white/Latino/Asian counterparts. Stop justifying your choice and own it. Saying black women drove you to date white women is just another way to not take responsibility for your own actions.

By bruh man

July 30, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Not that I date white women, but alot of black women are too judgemental.

By bruh man

July 30, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Not that I date white women, but alot of black women are too judgemental.

By Steve

July 30, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

That guy:

Yours appears to be more of a “one off” situation. My point is that MOST men are looking for a woman to share their lives with, not an angry, screeching, preaching, ethno-centric, what-have-you-done-for-me-lately feminazi.

Of course, I could be wrong….

By bruh man

July 30, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Not that I date white women, but alot of black women are too judgemental.

By bruh man

July 30, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Not that I date white women, but alot of black women are too judgemental.

By A

July 30, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Because it is a free country and anyone can date who they want to date. The bigger issue you all should be addressing is this unGodly law they are trying to pass to lock up Ministers for preaching God’s Word what is in the Bible, that a man should be with a woman and a woman should be with a man! Not the hideous craze that is going on now men & men and women & women. It is sickening and sad to have to raise children in this retarded society that is trying to change God’s Word!

By A REAL Systa

July 30, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Wow! These comments are really interesting and ignorant to say the least. However, I want to address some of the opinions from a real BLACK WOMAN’s perspective.

I am a black woman who has held nothing but corporate America positions since graduating undergrad. And in my professional dealings I have come across black, white, Asian and Hispanic women who were all lazy to a point in the professional setting. So, it’s not a BLACK WOMAN’s thing … it’s an individual thing.

Second, BLACK WOMEN have to deal with constant drama and b.s. on a daily basis - whether at work, at home, with friends or with family. I was raised by great parents who took time to teach me the importance of busting my butt to get what I want b/c no one would give me a free ride - I had to EARN IT! And that’s what I’ve been doing. Imagine that … a BLACK WOMAN who has her OWN money and doesn’t look to a BLACK MAN or any other man to take care of her. Crazy, right? But it happens - just take a look at some of the BLACK WOMEN around you. And, contrary to popular belief, we get just as frustrated and upset with the ‘other’ BLACK WOMAN who lives off of government aid and continues having child after child. For them, it is a free ride; for us (the professional black woman), it is hurtful to all that we are trying to accomplish for ourselves.

As far as Black men dating white women, if that is what they want then go for it! However, do not place blame on BLACK WOMEN for a decision you made to date white women. YOU made that decision … no matter the type of influence you had - you made the ultimate decision to date outside your race. BLACK MEN constantly b**ch and complain about what BLACK WOMEN have put them through. Yet, they fail to acknowledge the b.s. they’ve put a BLACK WOMAN through as well. It is a perpetual cycle of hurt and blame. When will we get off the damn roller coaster and stop playing the victim role? Wonder why some black women are so uptight and defensive even? It is because of a BLACK MAN’s inability to love her the way she knows she deserves to be loved. BLACK MEN put just as much stress and drama in BLACK WOMEN’s life as they claim we do them. Yet, again, they fail to man up and accept accountability for their own actions and what they’ve contributed to what is perceived as the BLACK WOMAN’s attitude. However, BLACK WOMEN need to realize that is isn’t always the man … sometimes the issues harbored by black women block a BLACK MAN’s decision to penetrate the concrete wall around her heart. Again … a perpetual cycle.

I commend AJC for having the guts to open a blog for honest dialogue about this subject matter. However, I condemn the ignorant mofos who have decided to not address the actual issue but take every opportunity provided here to demean BLACK WOMEN. None of the comments provided here have offered insight on why the situation even exists and how we can be comfortable with the matter. Just a bunch of children moaning about NOTHING.

By Minister 8-Ball

July 30, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Why is this even a topic? We have millions of our children in foster care needing to be adopted. We have obesity impacting our people at an alarming rate. Our senior citizens are facing the threat of Social Security going bankrupt by 2012, and all we wanna talk about is why white women are chosen or “preferred”?

I go back to the late Booby Wright on this issue. He stated that African people NEVER choose mates of other races, but are chosen by other races. Also, according to his research, 90% of the white women who date black men were introduced into the black community through a black woman (“i.e., “ghetto pass phenomenon”). Therefore, what responsibility do we carry in allowing “outsiders” into our communities for this so-called phenomenon to occur?

I want to see the EMPIRICAL evidence to “validate” the filmmaker’s premise. Anecdotal evidence is suspect and carries little weight. Plus, this is a “shock value” topic that’s as played out as MEMBERS ONLY jackets.

By its a good thing

July 30, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

“It’s sad to see each race is fading out… The children suffer as well.”

Thats ridiculous. Children do not suffer from having two parents who love them regardless of ethnicity. Children suffer when they are raised by their grandmother, don’t know their father, and their mother can’t support them.

I am happy for “inter-racial” relationships.

We need to stop looking at ourselves as black or white. We need to stop looking at each other that way too.

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

@Debbie do right “The number one cause of AIDS in black women are BLACK MEN posing as heterosexuals and/or in polygamous relationships with other women.”

Actually, if you look at the stats, the number one cause is intravenous drug use and sex with intravenous drug users. Try www.blackmenvent.com and have them direct you to their proof section.

By AP

July 30, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

As a product of an interracial marriage, I think that all of you are very ignorant. There is no reason that people chose to date one race over another. I would argue that black men who choose to date white women are going to face more adversity and trouble than if they decided to date a black woman (from society in general). I don’t buy the arguments that it’s about who raises you and where you grow up. Neither one of my parents had much when they were growing up, but everyone in both of my parents families went to college and are currently working professionals. Some chose to marry within the race and some chose not to.

I think a lot of the problem has to do with where black culture in general has gone today. We choose to insult each other and act out many of the stereotypes that reinforce the racist ideas throughout the country. We have lost the idea that we have to work for everything we get. I am very angry at a large portion of the black community. Instead of fighting to overcome the racism in this country (as people did in the 60s and 70s) we have begun attacking each other for the choices that we make. I have been rejected more times than I care to mention by black women because I’m not “black” enough. Additionally, I have been told repeatedly by black women “I want to see what your mother looks like, there ain’t no way she worthy of a black man” (my dad is an attorney). I consider myself to be a member of both races. In fact, I think that my “white” mother gave me more respect for all races than any other person I’ve ever met. My parents have been married for 30 years and still have a good relationship. I think that we have failed ourselves by our actions.

By MRA

July 30, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Hmm, I am a white woman dating a black man….I thought we were dating because of our compatible personalities, similar upbringing, and shared interests. But apparently, I am finding out now, he was attracted to me because I am a weak-willed pushover….All kidding aside, this blog is just perpetuating stereotypes….I would have understood a sociological examination of traditional gender and race roles, but really when the argument is based on a random quote from some guy off the street saying that white women give massages, this topic has been turned into a joke….Everyone has their own unique reasons for dating who they date and I predict that racial lines will be blurred even further with generations to come…..

And for the record, I have yet to meet a woman of any race who would run to the kitchen after sex and start cooking….If I am in the kitchen making a sandwich after sex, it is for me!

By AP

July 30, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

As a product of an interracial marriage, I think that all of you are very ignorant. There is no reason that people chose to date one race over another. I would argue that black men who choose to date white women are going to face more adversity and trouble than if they decided to date a black woman (from society in general). I don’t buy the arguments that it’s about who raises you and where you grow up. Neither one of my parents had much when they were growing up, but everyone in both of my parents families went to college and are currently working professionals. Some chose to marry within the race and some chose not to.

I think a lot of the problem has to do with where black culture in general has gone today. We choose to insult each other and act out many of the stereotypes that reinforce the racist ideas throughout the country. We have lost the idea that we have to work for everything we get. I am very angry at a large portion of the black community. Instead of fighting to overcome the racism in this country (as people did in the 60s and 70s) we have begun attacking each other for the choices that we make. I have been rejected more times than I care to mention by black women because I’m not “black” enough. Additionally, I have been told repeatedly by black women “I want to see what your mother looks like, there ain’t no way she worthy of a black man” (my dad is an attorney). I consider myself to be a member of both races. In fact, I think that my “white” mother gave me more respect for all races than any other person I’ve ever met. My parents have been married for 30 years and still have a good relationship. I think that we have failed ourselves by our actions.

By aa

July 30, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

By monique

July 30, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

What about the black woman who takes care of her man, when in jail and out. What about the lazy BLACK MAN!!! yes i said it! Black men are always looking for a free ride!! And we as black women are tired of taking care of a lazy ass grown ass men!!! So if you want a white woman I don’t care!!!!!!!! Black women are not angry or loud just TIRED!!!!!!!! Of being the bread winner all the time!!!!!!

This is what I am talking about. A black woman taking care of her black man, I would say as a black woman you are stupid. any woman that takes care of a man who is a low-life color doesnt matter is stupid.. I see that you are angry with your exclamation points.. To all the black men who are making excuses for dating white women..Stop It. and look at your momma, sister, cousin, auntie, grandmother..Dont Judge to be Judged”

By That guy

July 30, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

@Minister 8-ball: Talk to a conservative pro lifer about those foster kids. They will explain away that they will be adopted. Trust me.

By mel

July 30, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

To: A Real Systa…

I agree with you about the blame game. Ever see the young white single mom with mixed babies looking downtrodden? I see them all the time and I think about all the single black moms I know. What is the common denominator?

If the problem was really black women, why are they leaving white women high and dry as well? Something to think about.

By who de who

July 30, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

I don’t care who you date as long you’re not dating my MAN…White women are w** and don’t mind paying for their man..Black women want a man to step to the plate..and you brother that date white women are one step to being GAY..If you date WW..leave me alone..You’re weak…and NASTY !!!

By TruthHurts

July 30, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

For one thing, white women keep themselves in shape and exercise, while black women sit around, watching TV, and eating fried chicken all day. Black women need to stop equating thick with in shape. Newsflash black women…thick means fat….

By A

July 30, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

Because it is a free country and anyone can date who they want to date. The bigger issue you all should be addressing is this unGodly law they are trying to pass to lock up Ministers for preaching God’s Word what is in the Bible, that a man should be with a woman and a woman should be with a man! Not the hideous craze that is going on now men & men and women & women. It is sickening and sad to have to raise children in this retarded society that is trying to change God’s Word!

By theo

July 30, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

Just Reading Posts Here Leads Me To Believe That There Are Many Problems Out There. Seems As If The BMs That Are Dating White Women Give Reasons For Doing So Based On Their Experience With Black Women. First Of All, Just Because You Have Had Bad Experiences With Black Women Does Not Mean That They Are All Like That. After Saying What I Just Said, What I’m About To Say Will Probaly Anger Someone, But I Do’nt Care. My Wife Of Almost 15 Years Is A Filipina(From The Philippines). We Met While I Served In The Navy And Was Stationed There. It Was Never My Intention To Date Or Marry Anyone But A Black Woman, But At The Same Time, I Have Always Had The Minset Of “Go With The Best Fit” In Other Words, She Could Be Black, White, Green, Blue… Whatever. I Can Honestly Say That Had One Of The Black Women I Dated Before Meeting My Future Wife Had Been The “Best Fit” For Me I Would Have Proposed To Her Instead. I Am Convinced That Threr Are More Than Likely Many Black Women Out There That Would Have Been A “Best Fit” For Me, But I Met My “Filapina” Befor Them. I’m A One Woman Man.

This Is A Long Post So I’ll End It By Saying This To Black Women. No Group Of Women Are Better Than You, By The Same Token You’re No Better Than They Are Either. For The Rest Of Your Lives I Recommend That You Raise Your Standards And Swear Off THUGS. Thereby Forcing Many Of Them To Change Their Behavior, Because It Is True, That If A Man Has Lived To Be In His Mid To Late Twenties And Still Has Done Nothing With His Life, He Obviously Cares Nothing About Himself, So, How Can He Care About YOU?? Thank You.

By THE ANSWER

July 30, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

I HAVE DATED BOTH AND THERE ISN’T ANY DIFFERENCE EXCEPT THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN,BECAUSE THE WOMEN I’VE DATED WERE INTELLIGENT AND PRETTY AND “SELF RESPECTING WOMEN” SO IF YOU’RE GETTING DRAMA FROM A SISTA MAYBE THE TWO OF YOU ARE NOT COMPATIBLE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU BOTH ARE BALCK!!!!…

By black indian

July 30, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Guys, it is really disheartening to see such hateful and hurtful comments about the “black woman”. This is the type of thing that tears us apart as a race of people. Here we should be giving each other encouragement but I guess it’s much more “reader friendly” to just destroy the vision of the beautiful black woman. I think we are all beautiful and eloquent and elegant and crazy in our own ways. As women, we are emotional beings, and as human beings, it’s sometimes hard to let go of some of the hurt that have been inflicted upon us by people who claimed to “love us” at some point in time. I am asking all of you to please, use a softer approach, understand that we are human and that sometimes we don’t do and say the things we should, forgive me if I have offended you. I assure you, I will forgive you for offending me. All we want is to love and be loved, sometimes, we don’t always handle things the way we should, but nobody’s perfect. Black, white, hispanic or asian. We are all imperfect beings searching for love. Brothers, Latino men, Asian men and you lovely caucasian men, please, address us with respect, and we will respect you right back. Give us a chance. Everyone has baggage. Sometimes we carry it with us, and sometimes we put it by the wayside and never look back at it. I love all men. I have met some really great guys, and some not so great guys, but, I will never lable them as being anything but “not for me”, because it would not be fair. Please, give us some respect, and some kindness, and most of all, when we make mistakes and say things we shouldn’t say, please find it in your hearts to forgive us and give us a chance to prove to you that we are worthy of your love. Hail to all the men out there, please do not disrespect us with your words. Offer words of encouragement, but do not put us down, we are the bearers of your children, we are your wives, your girl friends, the other woman (yes I said it), your friends, your confidants, your shoulder to cry on, your spiritual strength (Lord, y’all know we can pray), but most of all, we are beautiful, strong, black women. Please respect us as such. Y’all stay blessed.

By theo

July 30, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Just Reading Posts Here Leads Me To Believe That There Are Many Problems Out There. Seems As If The BMs That Are Dating White Women Give Reasons For Doing So Based On Their Experience With Black Women. First Of All, Just Because You Have Had Bad Experiences With Black Women Does Not Mean That They Are All Like That. After Saying What I Just Said, What I’m About To Say Will Probaly Anger Someone, But I Do’nt Care. My Wife Of Almost 15 Years Is A Filipina(From The Philippines). We Met While I Served In The Navy And Was Stationed There. It Was Never My Intention To Date Or Marry Anyone But A Black Woman, But At The Same Time, I Have Always Had The Minset Of “Go With The Best Fit” In Other Words, She Could Be Black, White, Green, Blue… Whatever. I Can Honestly Say That Had One Of The Black Women I Dated Before Meeting My Future Wife Had Been The “Best Fit” For Me I Would Have Proposed To Her Instead. I Am Convinced That Threr Are More Than Likely Many Black Women Out There That Would Have Been A “Best Fit” For Me, But I Met My “Filapina” Befor Them. I’m A One Woman Man.

This Is A Long Post So I’ll End It By Saying This To Black Women. No Group Of Women Are Better Than You, By The Same Token You’re No Better Than They Are Either. For The Rest Of Your Lives I Recommend That You Raise Your Standards And Swear Off THUGS. Thereby Forcing Many Of Them To Change Their Behavior, Because It Is True, That If A Man Has Lived To Be In His Mid To Late Twenties And Still Has Done Nothing With His Life, He Obviously Cares Nothing About Himself, So, How Can He Care About YOU?? Thank You.

By theo

July 30, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Just Reading Posts Here Leads Me To Believe That There Are Many Problems Out There. Seems As If The BMs That Are Dating White Women Give Reasons For Doing So Based On Their Experience With Black Women. First Of All, Just Because You Have Had Bad Experiences With Black Women Does Not Mean That They Are All Like That. After Saying What I Just Said, What I’m About To Say Will Probaly Anger Someone, But I Do’nt Care. My Wife Of Almost 15 Years Is A Filipina(From The Philippines). We Met While I Served In The Navy And Was Stationed There. It Was Never My Intention To Date Or Marry Anyone But A Black Woman, But At The Same Time, I Have Always Had The Minset Of “Go With The Best Fit” In Other Words, She Could Be Black, White, Green, Blue… Whatever. I Can Honestly Say That Had One Of The Black Women I Dated Before Meeting My Future Wife Had Been The “Best Fit” For Me I Would Have Proposed To Her Instead. I Am Convinced That Threr Are More Than Likely Many Black Women Out There That Would Have Been A “Best Fit” For Me, But I Met My “Filapina” Befor Them. I’m A One Woman Man.

This Is A Long Post So I’ll End It By Saying This To Black Women. No Group Of Women Are Better Than You, By The Same Token You’re No Better Than They Are Either. For The Rest Of Your Lives I Recommend That You Raise Your Standards And Swear Off THUGS. Thereby Forcing Many Of Them To Change Their Behavior, Because It Is True, That If A Man Has Lived To Be In His Mid To Late Twenties And Still Has Done Nothing With His Life, He Obviously Cares Nothing About Himself, So, How Can He Care About YOU?? Thank You.

By Sage

July 30, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

As I walk in to the room the men ALL pause. I am dark as the night sexier than you can ever imagine… Guess who is not frighten by my boldness, my confidence, my statue, my femininity and the unknown? I am not for every man. Only the one who extols confidence in himself. Be it black man or white man… They are all mesmerized by the unknown… Is she full of drama, is she broke busted and disgusted? Only the one that approach will ever know that I am… Strong, sexy, 5’9 –135 black woman with a PHD and making 6figures- I don’t need their money, I don’t need their cars… I just want the love & to be treated with respect. Passing over me because of my skin is their lost!!

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

@who de who:

“and you brother that date white women are one step to being GAY”

You can’t be serious. Unless you mean gay as in happy.

homosexual= same sex, not different sex.

By black indian

July 30, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Guys, it is really disheartening to see such hateful and hurtful comments about the “black woman”. This is the type of thing that tears us apart as a race of people. Here we should be giving each other encouragement but I guess it’s much more “reader friendly” to just destroy the vision of the beautiful black woman. I think we are all beautiful and eloquent and elegant and crazy in our own ways. As women, we are emotional beings, and as human beings, it’s sometimes hard to let go of some of the hurt that have been inflicted upon us by people who claimed to “love us” at some point in time. I am asking all of you to please, use a softer approach, understand that we are human and that sometimes we don’t do and say the things we should, forgive me if I have offended you. I assure you, I will forgive you for offending me. All we want is to love and be loved, sometimes, we don’t always handle things the way we should, but nobody’s perfect. Black, white, hispanic or asian. We are all imperfect beings searching for love. Brothers, Latino men, Asian men and you lovely caucasian men, please, address us with respect, and we will respect you right back. Give us a chance. Everyone has baggage. Sometimes we carry it with us, and sometimes we put it by the wayside and never look back at it. I love all men. I have met some really great guys, and some not so great guys, but, I will never lable them as being anything but “not for me”, because it would not be fair. Please, give us some respect, and some kindness, and most of all, when we make mistakes and say things we shouldn’t say, please find it in your hearts to forgive us and give us a chance to prove to you that we are worthy of your love. Hail to all the men out there, please do not disrespect us with your words. Offer words of encouragement, but do not put us down, we are the bearers of your children, we are your wives, your girl friends, the other woman (yes I said it), your friends, your confidants, your shoulder to cry on, your spiritual strength (Lord, y’all know we can pray), but most of all, we are beautiful, strong, black women. Please respect us as such. Y’all stay blessed.

By black indian

July 30, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Guys, it is really disheartening to see such hateful and hurtful comments about the “black woman”. This is the type of thing that tears us apart as a race of people. Here we should be giving each other encouragement but I guess it’s much more “reader friendly” to just destroy the vision of the beautiful black woman. I think we are all beautiful and eloquent and elegant and crazy in our own ways. As women, we are emotional beings, and as human beings, it’s sometimes hard to let go of some of the hurt that have been inflicted upon us by people who claimed to “love us” at some point in time. I am asking all of you to please, use a softer approach, understand that we are human and that sometimes we don’t do and say the things we should, forgive me if I have offended you. I assure you, I will forgive you for offending me. All we want is to love and be loved, sometimes, we don’t always handle things the way we should, but nobody’s perfect. Black, white, hispanic or asian. We are all imperfect beings searching for love. Brothers, Latino men, Asian men and you lovely caucasian men, please, address us with respect, and we will respect you right back. Give us a chance. Everyone has baggage. Sometimes we carry it with us, and sometimes we put it by the wayside and never look back at it. I love all men. I have met some really great guys, and some not so great guys, but, I will never lable them as being anything but “not for me”, because it would not be fair. Please, give us some respect, and some kindness, and most of all, when we make mistakes and say things we shouldn’t say, please find it in your hearts to forgive us and give us a chance to prove to you that we are worthy of your love. Hail to all the men out there, please do not disrespect us with your words. Offer words of encouragement, but do not put us down, we are the bearers of your children, we are your wives, your girl friends, the other woman (yes I said it), your friends, your confidants, your shoulder to cry on, your spiritual strength (Lord, y’all know we can pray), but most of all, we are beautiful, strong, black women. Please respect us as such. Y’all stay blessed.

By Young, Gifted and Black

July 30, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Just reading these comments from you black males have made me realize that as a single black woman living in the ATL. I am missing absolutely nothing by being , just that, SINGLE.

By Take It From Me

July 30, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

As a white woman, there is no way in hell I would date a black man. We would have way too many arguments over racial issues. I’m not racist, but I have very strong opinions about the hypocrisy in the African American culture. For example: Where were Jessie and Al when a gang of 25 blacks beat up the white guy at Six Flags? Answer me.

By livinginatl

July 30, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

As a white woman who is married to a black man let me point out that life is not more difficult for us or our child because of our relationship. The only looks or comments we receive come from a few black women that for some reason think we actually care to hear their opinion on our life choices.
BTW..I am not big, don’t fix sandwiches after sex..lol, and our marriage is a partnership not a dictatorship.

By aa

July 30, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

I went to the Lotus Lounge the other night, great crowd. I noticed all the black people went into the room in the back of the club, while all the white people and indian danced in the main entrance. Why do black people segregate ourselves at a white club? If thats the case go to the black club. I also noticed the DJ playing black music with curse words and the N*a word. I was a little surprised about that. I didnt like that at all. Play our music just dont use those words to us. There was a lot of interracial dating in the club, but I will say the Indian decent people mingled with themselves. Love each other!

By at a loss for words

July 30, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Wow! I am surprised by a lot of the aggressive intolerance expressed in this blog. I am a white woman who was blessed to grow up in a very culturally diverse town, where the color of your skin didn’t define you. And, yes, I grew up in the south!

I can’t answer the question “Why do white women date black men” because I don’t care about color, just quality. I have dated pretty much every race I have encountered. Having dated several wonderful men (black, asian, white, indian, yankee, southern, british, ghanian, phillipian, etc), I think it is important that you look at the person rather than the stereotype. I’ve never given much consideration to “races” when approached by a man - instead, the issues I look at are: respect, intelligence, self-confidence, morals. Maybe I’m naive to think that others do the same.

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

@sage: What room are you walking into?

@Young, Gifted, and Black: Just because you live in the ATL doesn’t mean you should be limited to dating only people in the ATL.

By mel

July 30, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Take it from Me…

I see you haven’t yet figured out that all black people are different. LOL Jesse and Al represent themselves. The only reason they’re famous is because the WHITE people in the media give them screentime.

Aside from that, the boy at Six Flags was black, he was just light. Now that you know that, you care a little less, don’t you? :-)

By Maggie

July 30, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

@ Terrell in the ATL

“*You are less likely to run into a white girl’s Baby Daddy when you take her to THE VARSITY on a date.”

You must ONLY date WHITE Trasch to take any female to the VARSITY as a date. Are you friggin kidding me.

By Bill

July 30, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

By Andrea, July 30, 2007 8:13 AM: I hope that everyone will read Andrea’s message that I have indicated above. Forget about 99.9% of the other trash messages and read Andrea’s. Thank you Andrea; from a black man who agrees with you, completely!

By McKnight

July 30, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

@Maggie: Just Curious. Name 3 great dining spots to take Women on a date.

By Take It From Me

July 30, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Mel…sorry, but the boy at Six Flags was definetely white, not a little white, WHITE. Google it.

So…I guess what I’m trying to say in response to your comment, is: Why didn’t Jessie and Al step forward, and at the very least, reprimand the gang for their actions. I think the white people would have given them cameratime. Don’t you?

By aa

July 30, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

@Sage, @young, gifted and black.. Sage who cares that you have a PHD. And what.. I own my own business and my income is just the same as yours.Get a Life, all that and you are still single..You got issues, YGB.. You are single because of your attitude. Are you all even reading the posts? They are dogging black women like yourselves. Read before you respond please

By aa

July 30, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

@Sage, @young, gifted and black.. Sage who cares that you have a PHD. And what.. I own my own business and my income is just the same as yours.Get a Life, all that and you are still single..You got issues, YGB.. You are single because of your attitude. Are you all even reading the posts? They are dogging black women like yourselves. Read before you respond please

By aa

July 30, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

@Sage, @young, gifted and black.. Sage who cares that you have a PHD. And what.. I own my own business and my income is just the same as yours.Get a Life, all that and you are still single..You got issues, YGB.. You are single because of your attitude. Are you all even reading the posts? They are dogging black women like yourselves. Read before you respond please

By Sandwich man

July 30, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

There are Good Black women out there. I am married to one. She fixes me a Tuna sandwich if I am good at sex and a Tomato Sandwich if I am not so good that night.

I love my Black woman. It’s the other 40% of them to watch out for. Those are the bad ones.

By BeBe KID

July 30, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

You like what you like; it’s just that simple. If you prefer white women or if you are a white woman that prefers black men you owe it to yourself to pursue that person that makes you happy. In these days and times if you find someone that loves you just for you, race should not matter unless you want to limit yourself by your preference and if that is the race of the person as Bobby Brown so eloquently said, that is your prerogative. Pursue who makes YOU happy! You can’t live your life for the approval of people. It is not wise to seek the approval of people taking into consideration that many don’t give a damn about you in the first place. Please yourself!

By Mo

July 30, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

This has been very disheartening to read such awful things that both whites and blacks have to say about black women as a whole. I am an educated, beautiful, thick and still lovely black woman. I am ashamed of the black men who have the nerve to emotionally and verbally bash women that are the same skin tone as your mother. I myself do not want a black man who can’t appreciate the complexity of me. The loveliness that is me, the shapeliness that is me. Most of Black women just like “ALL” Women want to be loved. If you love a White Women that is your business and perogotive. But do not look for reasons to explain yourself by degrading the value of a Black Woman. For the Real Black Men who just happen to be in Love with every aspect of a Black Woman ” I LOVE YOU” you are God’s gift.

By Jane

July 30, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

I was in Buckhead during the Bye, Bye Buckhead Party and was hit on several times by Caucasian men. (I am a black American female) Aside from attempting to “rap” to me in some hip slang, a few of them also asked how do I handle the dating scene with these ghetto, thug guys out there. I responded by asking which ghetto thugs are they referring to, because If I visit the towns around the Georgia mountains or go to Southern Georgia or heck, went to neighborhoods in metro Atlanta, I would see “ghetto thugs” who looked like them —whether doped up or just bad-mannered people. I knew what they were trying to say and do, but I choose not to play such games. People are people and you can’t make generalizations —especially untrue personalized generalizations based on someone’s limited experience —about people. ALSO, WE ATTRACT WHAT WE ARE. SO IF YOU ARE ENCOUNTERING UNPLEASANT PEOPLE WHETHER IN A WORK, SOCIAL OR INTIMATE ENVIRONMENT, LOOK AT YOURSELF BECAUSE THEY ARE EXAMPLES OF SOME PART (IF NOT ALL) OF YOU!!! (THE SAME CAN BE SAID ABOUT PLEASANT PEOPLE0

By Searching For Sage

July 30, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

I’m a profesional white male. Most of my best friends are single, black, professional females. Sage, I think we should get together and the AJC can run a blog on why white men hook up with black women :)

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Because Al and Jesse are just going for “fights they can win”.

They were absent for Marcus Dixon and the beginning of Gernarlow Wilson’s ordeal.

But, they saw fit to defend a lying stripper who put black marks on 4-6 college kids.

By Jane

July 30, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

I was in Buckhead during the Bye, Bye Buckhead Block Party and was hit on several times by Caucasian men. (I am a black American female) Aside from attempting to “rap” to me in some hip slang, a few of them also asked how do I handle the dating scene with these ghetto, thug guys out there. I responded by asking which ghetto thugs are they referring to, because If I visit the towns around the Georgia mountains or go to Southern Georgia or heck, went to neighborhoods in metro Atlanta, I would see “ghetto thugs” who looked like them —whether doped up or just bad-mannered people. I knew what they were trying to say and do, but I choose not to play such games. People are people and you can’t make generalizations —especially untrue personalized generalizations based on someone’s limited experience —about people. ALSO, WE ATTRACT WHAT WE ARE. SO IF YOU ARE ENCOUNTERING UNPLEASANT PEOPLE WHETHER IN A WORK, SOCIAL OR INTIMATE ENVIRONMENT, LOOK AT YOURSELF BECAUSE THEY ARE EXAMPLES OF SOME PART (IF NOT ALL) OF YOU!!! (THE SAME CAN BE SAID ABOUT PLEASANT PEOPLE0

By BeBe KID

July 30, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

You like what you like; it’s just that simple. If you prefer white women or if you are a white woman that prefers black men you owe it to yourself to pursue that person that makes you happy. In these days and times if you find someone that loves you just for you, race should not matter unless you want to limit yourself by your preference and if that is the race of the person as Bobby Brown so eloquently said, that is your prerogative. Pursue who makes YOU happy! You can’t live your life for the approval of people. It is not wise to seek the approval of people taking into consideration that many don’t give a damn about you in the first place. Please yourself!

By baddog

July 30, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

Hell I am educated, have a good job my own house 2 cars and I am black and all the (I hate to say it Sista’s) want is a free ride the ones I meet don’t bring anything to the table but sex they want all the things I have but can’t match it or enhance it again I am open to a white female but I don’t think I can trust them. They are just scared of us

By livinginatl

July 30, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

Maggie…Let’s see, I am a prof. ww with higher ed. degree and the Varsity is one of my favorite date spots with my black husband. We can afford to go anywhere in atl but we are not looking to keep up with anyone or impress anyone (which I think is a common complaint some have had on this topic). A date is so much more than lets see how fancy we can get and how much money he can spend. You are truly missing out if you approach it that way. Bring on the “what’ya have”!

By DB

July 30, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

I MARRIED A BLACK WOMEN (8 YEARS), WE NOW HAVE A SON (5 YEARS OLD)AND I REGRET MY DECISION TO MARRY HER EVERYDAY OF MY BREATHING LIFE. THE ONLY REASON I STAY IS BECAUSE OF MY SON. I DO WANT TO BE CONTRIBUTE ANOTHER SINGLE BLACK FEMALE MOTHER THING.IN TERMS OF WHITE WOMEN BEINNG BETTER I AGREE TO SOME EXTENT, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THEY HAVE CRABBY ARGUMENTIVE WOMEN IN THEIR POPULATION. WHAT I THINK IS BEST IS DOMINICAN WOMEN. ALL THE PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES WITHOUT THE HAIR, ATTITUDE, DISAGREEABLE ISSUE. UNFORTUNALEY, I FOUND THIS OUT AFTER GETTING MARRIED. TRUST ME GUYS (BLACK, WHITE, WHATEVER) A DOMINICAN WOMEN WHO HAS BEEN COMPLETELY “AMERICANIZED” IS THE BEST!!!!!!!! I’ve had a relationship with one for the past few years and if my wife sees this - great!!!!!!

TONY’S COMMENTS (SEE BELOW ARE SO TRUE. ) There are several reasons I’ve dated white women

there are so damn many of them they’re hard to ignore

the white women that get my attention take very good care of themselves. they work out, eat right and dress well. too many Black women are overweight, have food fetishes and think getting their hair and nails done makes them more attractive than being physically fit.

a nice looking white woman is more approachable than a nice looking Black woman. nice looking Black women get so much attention their guard goes up automatically whereas nice looking white women seem to invite attention.

white women, nice looking or otherwise, are straight up freaks in bed, nymphs, insatiable. when they find someone that can hit it right and often they sink their claws in as deep as possible and hold on for as long as they can. Black women in general don’t really seem to know how to just enjoy a good f*, to let go and bust a few orgasims, not until you know them for a while anyway and then there’s nobody better. but white women get it while they can and don’t hold back.

having said that I will say that I love Black women and prefer Black women over white. a physically fit Black woman who is open minded is like heaven on earth to be with

By Chris

July 30, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

It is a simple concept. White women swallow anything. Not sure about black women. Why do you think most black athletes are married to white women.

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

@Take it from me: Because Al and Jesse are just going for “fights they can win”.

They were absent for Marcus Dixon and the beginning of Gernarlow Wilson’s ordeal.

But, they saw fit to defend a lying stripper who put black marks on 4-6 college kids.

By Last American

July 30, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

One more for Dave’s question. I have a question. A white women married to a black man. She has two children which she refers to as white. They are not white they are black and look black. Is she embarrassed? What’s up with that. She has gained weight so her behind (which she refers to as her tail) will look like a black womens. Said her husband does not like her to be thin. Also know another women (white) her daughter had a baby with a black man - the granddaugher look white. The grandmother said, one day when she become serious with someone - she will have to tell them that her father was black - because if she has children they could be black.

By allerickb@gmail.com

July 30, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Does anyone happen to recognize these words: “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”? I guess some (apparently a lot) of us still haven’t reached this point yet. I’m tired of these types of blogs and discussions that generalize an entire race of people as this or that. The fact of the matter is that you’ll find black and whites (and all other races for that matter) at each ends of the spectrum. To use stereotypes to generalize an entire race is both ignorant and irresponsible. I would have rather been blogging about the new Simpson’s movie, rather than this tired subject.

AB

By mel

July 30, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Take it from Me…

I’ll take your word for it. I saw it reported on the news that he was black.

Either way…Why are you asking random black people about Al and Jesse? We don’t know them and they don’t speak for all of us. But to humor you…If the kid is white, then that’s why. Al and Jesse look out for the interests of other black people. I thought that would have been clear after all these years. Or were you just being sarcastic?

By baddog

July 30, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

I also see a lot of fine Sista’s that I would love to date but since my pants are not hangin off my butt or earings in my ears (or just plain thuggin) then I am not their type good girls like bad boys funny thing is I am from Detroit but just changed the game

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

@Searching for Sage: It is because those Black women can fix a good sandwich.

@baddog: I was in a relationship just like that. Sure, she had a house, but she wanted everyone else to pay her mortgage. The house went away first. She wanted me to take out a loan to pay for her mortgage.

@livingintheatl: I agree.

By Kweli

July 30, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

The issue of Black men dating White women is and has always been blown out of proportion. In fact, I have seen statistics over the years that state that 8% (4% Black women) of Black men marry outside of their race. Only 8%. And that is outside of their race, not necessarily White. If two people are compatible and love and respect each other and decide to enter a relationship, then more power to them. I personally wouldn’t date a White woman because of my committment to my people, but that’s me. The point I am making, again, is that Black men dating White women is not an issue of epic proportions; to the contrary, this is drama, it’s a molehill made into a mountain (or something like that). If it’s that bad, consider polygamy.

By DB

July 30, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Excuse the typo’s I meant a Dominican woman that has NOT been Americanized. Also I do Not want to contribute to the black single mother syndrome.

If my wife would just go on the glory!!!!!

By Jay-Paso

July 30, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

The question should be “Why Do White women Date Blackmen”? White women are easy,and better in bed. Black women are money hungry. They think the world owes them something, and most have chips on their shoulders. Then they have all that weave and mess in their hair. Fat,out of shape,and lazy. White women look cleaner and carry themselves better. Black women will go to the highest bidder.

By leonard hamilton

July 30, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Black women as a whole are distrusting, mean, and spiteful. When you approach a black woman in public, it is confrontational from the first moment, no smile, nothing. White women smile, talk, you can have a decent conversation and it goes from there. I have dated white, black and hispanic and have seen cultural differences. But black women is drama all the way.

By Take It From Me

July 30, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Yea, about that…my black friend and I had a very long discussion, albeit, argument, over the whole Duke scandal. He defended the stripper all the way to the end. Never thought twice about the lives she affected along the way. Fortunately, we didn’t let our feelings get in the way of our friendship, however…we will never go there again. I could feel my blood pressure soar!

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

@baddog: Yep, more of what you said. I agree with.

By mel

July 30, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Ok, I have to know…

Since one of the main complaints on here is about black women and their bodies…

Can someone please explain to me why the white women in these interacial pairings is almost always overweight?

By john

July 30, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

I’m a black man who dates all colors, but, I have to agree with some that most black men who date white women have had some regection in the past by a black women. They tend to find white women easy on all occasions, especially sex. Black women can read through most black men mind. They do not take our B.S. I love the sisters and other people of color. Most other black men take the short cut to the easy white life.

By That guy

July 30, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

And what Kweli said is also true.

By Nate

July 30, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

I think people in general worry about the wrong things. WHO CARES if someone else dates outside their race and since when did love have a color??…what does that have to do with you?!? Do you get paid to worry about what somebody else is doing?!?OK…then..if this is an issue for ANYBODY then maybe you should consider getting a life of your own..I think if people concentrated on their own lives as hard as they do someone else’s that they don’t even know then we be more positive,productive, less judgemental society…

By Carla

July 30, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Take It, I think most Black people would agree with you, not argue with you.

By Nate

July 30, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

I think people in general worry about the wrong things. WHO CARES if someone else dates outside their race and since when did love have a color??…what does that have to do with you?!? Do you get paid to worry about what somebody else is doing?!?OK…then..if this is an issue for ANYBODY then maybe you should consider getting a life of your own..I think if people concentrated on their own lives as hard as they do someone else’s that they don’t even know then we be more positive,productive, less judgemental society…

By Nate

July 30, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

I think people in general worry about the wrong things. WHO CARES if someone else dates outside their race and since when did love have a color??…what does that have to do with you?!? Do you get paid to worry about what somebody else is doing?!?OK…then..if this is an issue for ANYBODY then maybe you should consider getting a life of your own..I think if people concentrated on their own lives as hard as they do someone else’s that they don’t even know then we be more positive,productive, less judgemental society…

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

It is time for me to end my time on this board. But, if anyone is actually reasonable and likes having a real discussion on a board where your comments show up in 10 seconds instead of 5 minutes … .

www.soulssociety.co.nr Dutch woman I am dating now made this website. We discuss a lot of different topics. I could probably get a section for this topic too. Just make a thread for it. I am still trying to get her to change the banner.

www.lipstickalley.com Giant board.

www.blackmenvent.com The “Proof” section is nice. I am banned. I apparently was a “mangina”.

http://www.castlestudio.net/tbm/forums/index.php A movie site about close to the same thing.

By Morgan

July 30, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

DB —-It appears that you typed —“If my wife would just go on the glory!!!!!” —you meant If my wife would just go on to glory!!!!!”, which is equally disturbing because it seems as if you are wishing her death!?!?!? Yikes, are you trying to say you wish harm to your wife to get out your divorce so you can continue to cheat on her?

By Moira

July 30, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

DB —-It appears that you typed —“If my wife would just go on the glory!!!!!” —you meant If my wife would just go on to glory!!!!!”, which is equally disturbing because it seems as if you are wishing her death!?!?!? Yikes, are you trying to say you wish harm to your wife to get out your divorce so you can continue to cheat on her?

By Moira

July 30, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

DB —-It appears that you typed —“If my wife would just go on the glory!!!!!” —you meant If my wife would just go on to glory!!!!!”, which is equally disturbing because it seems as if you are wishing her death!?!?!? Yikes, are you trying to say you wish harm to your wife to get out your divorce so you can continue to cheat on her?

By Moira

July 30, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

DB —-It appears that you typed —“If my wife would just go on the glory!!!!!” —you meant If my wife would just go on to glory!!!!!”, which is equally disturbing because it seems as if you are wishing her death!?!?!? Yikes, are you trying to say you wish harm to your wife to get out your divorce so you can continue to cheat on her?

By Kweli

July 30, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

And as far as Black women having bad attitudes as opposed to White women being nice and smiling, that’s nonsense. That’s a sweeping indictment and generalization based on a few experiences someone may have had. In reality, Blacks are a wounded people; the stuff we have gone through since we arrived and were enslaved is the root of much of most of any type of negative behavior and self-hate that may exist. Sure, some of this could be manifested with inter-racial dating, but I don’t beleive that accounts for most of the reasons why Black men date White women. The reasons aren’t always negative.

By Sharon

July 30, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

I am a 26y/o black female, and have no problem with a black man dating a white women. I have never dated outside of my race, but who cares. I don’t care if the person is green, as long as they make you happy, whatever!!! As far as black women looking for a man with a car, house, and money. Not all black women are looking for that. It’s nice to have, and at a certain age, a man should have a house, car and some money.

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

I still do not follow. It correctly says that drug users are a factor.

And where it talks about the larger risk, it says men unaware of their HIV status. Not gay/bi men.

By Rastus

July 30, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Think about it! In general terms, who in their right mind would choose today’s black woman when they could have a white one?

By Charlie

July 30, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Perhaps a black man wants to date a white woman just because that’s his desire. I’m sure it’s not because they want to feel like its an accomplishment. But then, maybe I want to date a Hispanic woman because I have a desire for chalupas and Safran rice a couple nights a week. Or quite possibly, I desire to date an Asian woman because I really enjoy General Tsu’s chicken. It’s whatever! I won’t be quick to say that I would never date a “heavy debbie” but I prefer someone that is close or comparable to my weight, not a waddler. And remember, only hit the ‘POST’ button ONCE.

By C J

July 30, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

for Sensible white man and Terell.You both are stupid….

By mel

July 30, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Kweli,

you sound a lot like my husband. There is nothing, I repeat, NOTHING like a concious, intelligent black man. Keep it up! We need more men like you.

By Patrick

July 30, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Wow….it just goes to show how people really think when you give them a topic that hits home, and no faces to put to the words. I think that too many times, people assert their opinions onto others based upon past experiences, rather than facts. People are drawn together by common interests, both mental and physical. If two people happen to meet with those common interests and goals, so be it.

There are way too many crazy people out there for anyone to limit your choices by a skin color. If you take away crazy, obsessive, controlling, etc., from the vast number of PEOPLE worldwide, and then add to that a skin color choice; you’re pretty much stacking the deck against yourself.

I say date who you want, and remember that all of those staring at you probably have some baggage to deal with and need to figure that out before they pass it to their kids. Any many times, those who are staring at you probably aren’t the ones you would date if you were to choose that particular type of partner.

By TruthHurts

July 30, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

For one thing, white women keep themselves in shape and exercise, while black women sit around, watching TV, and eating fried chicken all day. Black women need to stop equating thick with in shape. Newsflash black women…thick means fat…

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

Ok, let’s say there is a Black guy in college. he tries, but he cannot get a date with a Black woman. A variety of false reasons are thrown at him, until he compares himself to who the majority of the Black Women consider the “Top 20%” on campus. Looking around, he realizes that they are dressed like street people.

Nothing to do with actual accomplishment.

So, later another woman decides to date him. She is _. There. There is a relationship. End of story.

Moral: Black Women can complain all they want, but they know a “hard Black man is good to find”. While a “Good Black man is hard to find.” Their words, not mine.

By Patrick

July 30, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Wow….it just goes to show how people really think when you give them a topic that hits home, and no faces to put to the words. I think that too many times, people assert their opinions onto others based upon past experiences, rather than facts. People are drawn together by common interests, both mental and physical. If two people happen to meet with those common interests and goals, so be it.

There are way too many crazy people out there for anyone to limit your choices by a skin color. If you take away crazy, obsessive, controlling, etc., from the vast number of PEOPLE worldwide, and then add to that a skin color choice; you’re pretty much stacking the deck against yourself.

I say date who you want, and remember that all of those staring at you probably have some baggage to deal with and need to figure that out before they pass it to their kids. Any many times, those who are staring at you probably aren’t the ones you would date if you were to choose that particular type of partner.

By Kristal

July 30, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

It’s amazing to see some of the hurtful comments about black women coming from some people on here. But, I can’t say that I’m surprised. Black women are probably the group that’s the most scrutinized.

As a black woman, I could care less if a black man dates a white woman. I’m currently in a relationship with a white man and I get stares from everyone, including black men. In my opinion, there seems to be a double standard that some black men have. They get all upset if they get stared at because they have a white woman on their arms. But if some of these guys see a black woman with a white man, they will give that couple that same stare.

As a professional black woman, I can tell you that I do NOT have an attitude problem nor do I carry any drama. I’ve also had no complaints about my attitude from anyone. From my perspective, a lot of black women are approached by some black men who have absolutely no manners, which makes some of us more skeptical and defensive. I can also say that I’ve had those same type of white guys approach me in the same manner and it’s equally offensive.

By DB

July 30, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

To Morgan/Moria - YES - on to glory!!

By Last American

July 30, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

One more for Dave’s question. I know a white women married to a black man. Has two children - she refers to them as white. They are not white - they look black. What’s up with that. She has gained weight because her husband does not like her thin. He like a big behind (she refers to her behind as her tail).Also, know another white women - her daughter had a baby with a black man - the granddaught looks white. The grandmother said - when she get older and becomes serious with someone - she will have to tell them that her father is black (the father is not involved in her life) since - if she has children with a white man - the children could come out looking black. If she marries a black man she will not have to worry about what color they are.

By Journ

July 30, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

Wishing “Sage” and “Searching for Sage” the best of luck!

AA, perhaps Sage is single by choice… hasn’t found the right man yet? It sounds like she doesn’t exactly need to settle… if you know what I mean. You sound a little bitter… just an observation.

I could be wrong - but I doubt it.

By Young, Gifted and Black

July 30, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

To aa: Nobody is dogging me out and I appreciate the reminder about reading the posting before commenting. But, I did that.

Unfortunately, you might not have read mine before commenting. So, I would suggest that you follow your own advice.

By sharon

July 30, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Take it from me you need to get your facts straight. The guy beaten up at six flags was not white! It may be hard for you to comprehend but black peole come in all shades. As far as you not dating black men you gives a sh-t.

By Kristal

July 30, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

It’s amazing to see some of the hurtful comments about black women coming from some people on here. But, I can’t say that I’m surprised. Black women are probably the group that’s the most scrutinized.

As a black woman, I could care less if a black man dates a white woman. I’m currently in a relationship with a white man and I get stares from everyone, including black men. In my opinion, there seems to be a double standard that some black men have. They get all upset if they get stared at because they have a white woman on their arms. But if some of these guys see a black woman with a white man, they will give that couple that same stare.

As a professional black woman, I can tell you that I do NOT have an attitude problem nor do I carry any drama. I’ve also had no complaints about my attitude from anyone. From my perspective, a lot of black women are approached by some black men who have absolutely no manners, which makes some of us more skeptical and defensive. I can also say that I’ve had those same type of white guys approach me in the same manner and it’s equally offensive.

By sharon

July 30, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Take it from me you need to get your facts straight. The guy beaten up at six flags was not white! It may be hard for you to comprehend but black people come in all shades. As far as you not dating black men who gives a sh-t. Damn Reverend Al and Jesse Jackson don’t even live in Atlanta. Why would you expect them to be here every time there’s a crisis. Geesh!

By Diane

July 30, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

After reading all of the comments, I find myself realizing more and more than it is true, we as black women are very strong headed with much attitudes, believing that we should be taken care of, after all, we are the black women that have to work harder, be educated, so what is wrong with asking those questions to a man?If you don’t you might be a victim of STD, or finding out he likes the other gender too, you ask us, men think about it. we come looking just like you. But what gets me, some of you black men will treat the white woman better than the black woman, didn’t you get anything from Tyler Perry’s plays, except the last one when a man stood up and fault for his children (you know there are someone of you that are out there). I do have male friends that are dating white women, their reason, because they mind or behave better.(funny) It is said they are trophy women, because white men forbids them to venture, (sex wise) and will do the freaky things that black women won’t do. They are spoiled just like black women (some), their fathers are in control. So why can’t you treat your black sisters the same way? you can’t because of issues you have and are afraid to show or talk about. Of course not, we will turn it around, You know you did come from a black strong women, no matter what the circumstances were, no excuse. But on the other hand, if you love somebody skin color, size, property values, job, height, etc should not matter, but it does. In essence, not trying to give justification as to why you do it or your reasoning, that a black woman drove you to do it, (that’s a punk way) be a man, white/black women are one in the same, take responsibility for you own actions, you can’t deal with us strong minded, hard working, attitude, good and sexy black women, we deal with you and your behavior. I wonder what you would do, if you lived in the western states where the white women are fighting for you, get married to one them and you leave with nothing, but married a black woman and everything you is split down the middle, this is your part, no hers or depending on who is the higher wage earner. I love my husband and he is one of those rare men. Ladies don’t give up your self-esteem because trust me they will be back.

By Uncle Jesse

July 30, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

A couple of my co-workers (one white,the other black)were aguing about who had the most “stuff”. As my black co-worker was listing off all his “stuff” new car, big screen etc. The last thing he said was “And I have a white wife”. I think for a lot of black men it’s a status symbol. A trophy.

By DebbieDoRight

July 30, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

that guy: Perhaps you’re not seeing it because you don’t want to. It states explicity the number one cause of HIV/AIDS in black women; how you can miss that is quite telling to me. Negativity is a powerful tool.

mel: I agree with you about the blame game. Ever see the young white single mom with mixed babies looking downtrodden? I see them all the time and I think about all the single black moms I know. What is the common denominator? If the problem was really black women, why are they leaving white women high and dry as well? Something to think about.

It has become a thing of “vogue” to blame black women for all social ills in this world. Out of control youth? Why that’s the fault of the single parent black woman, (most black women would have LOVED to marry the father of their children, if they’d just been asked).

Welfare mother on television? Why of COURSE it’s gonna be a single black mother. However, statistically WHITE FEMALES are the number one recipients of welfare, but judging from media and political pundits, you’d never know that that was the truth.

The majority of successful black men you see today were raised by a SINGLE PARENT, (whether from divorce, etc), black female. However, black women get no credit for the good that they’ve done, but all the blame for every ill.

Black men date who you want!! Own it!! Who cares!! Sure, there may be a few idiots in the crowd who wants to make your choice seem foul; but if that’s your choice then what’s the problem? Own it, don’t degraden, denigrate, and demean black women though because of your choices.

Besides, black women have more of a reason to degrade, denigrate and demean YOU than the other way around; but suprisingly, few do in the media and in the general public. Why? Mainly because we were taught better than that.

By Take It From Me

July 30, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

That’s what I’m talking about Mel…hypocrisy. Unfortunately for you, when Al and Jessie get up on the pulpit and raise their fist in a fit of rage over a white guy who has done something to a black guy, they are speaking on behalf of all African Americans. Whether you’ve ever met them or not.

So…again, my question is, why wouldn’t they speak on behalf of the black gang members who pounded the poor white guy with brass knuckles and left their shoe imprint on his face? Oh, I see. It was because the perpertrator(s) were black and it was the white guy who took the beating this time, right? The message they send is that it’s o.k. for the tables to be turned - we just get outraged when it’s the other way around. I just don’t get that, and I can’t for the life of me see why you don’t get it.

And yes, I do know that not every black person out there is like that. I’m simply asking a question and not getting an answer. I’ve just got to know the answer because the next time I see Jessie or Al on the TV, I might understand.

By Money

July 30, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Seriously people. Give the self hate a rest. I am a black man that has dated women from all over the planet, all shapes, sizes, and colors. They are all the same. They are WOMEN. And I love them. Have some black women brought me drama, absolutely, so have the white women, Latinas, etc. Have I brought them drama, YES. It’s called dating. Sometimes you get your way, sometimes you don’t.

By By Kat

July 30, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

I feel if you find the right person you love that all matter..I think some people want to date outside there race but don’t know how because of the judgement of others and how we were raised as children… until a person follow there own heart and not do what other think.. people want ever be happy they will date white black cheat and everything else to pls ther lust ….as for me i feel if you are a strong woman or man and you know who you are it doesn’t matter you can find love no matter what color or race its all about character and confidence and living a righteous life find your soul mate not your lust mate…

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

t’s amazing to see some of the comments from Black Women on this blog. If they showed interest in Black guys who were single, well off, not gay, Disease free, and just regular people you would think there wouldn’t be a need for this blog.

By WG

July 30, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

I am a professional, college educated white guy who would love to date an attractive black woman but I’ve found that black women think I’m “too white”. I would tell black women if you feel slighted by black men dating white women jump in the game widen “the pool” and date white men! Another good topic would be why won’t black women date white men?

By DB

July 30, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

If I every get a divorce I would NEVER remarry a black women. Only date them and flaunt my creditials (MBA, $100K+ a year, house and luxury car) so they think I’ll marry them. Basically use them for sexually purposes (because I love their bodies) and then discard them - because a black women does not deserve an educated, money in the bank black man. I put the word out onb Black women to ALL of my black friend (I’m back of course) and tell this: sell her a dream and give her a night. But do not waste your hard work (education, job, seed - sperm for babies) on her. DO NOT GIVE HER YOUR LAST NAME. They are not worth it.

By DB

July 30, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

If I every get a divorce I would NEVER remarry a black women. Only date them and flaunt my creditials (MBA, $100K+ a year, house and luxury car) so they’ll think I’ll marry them. Basically use them for sexual purposes (because I love their bodies - thick booties) and then discard them - because a black women does not deserve an educated, money in the bank black man. I put the word out on Black women to ALL of my black friend (I’m black of course) and tell them this: sell her a dream and give her a night. But do not waste your hard work (education, job, seed - sperm for babies) on her. DO NOT GIVE HER YOUR LAST NAME. They are not worth it.

By allerickb@gmail.com

July 30, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Well Said, Money

AB

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Ok, let me tell you what I saw from your links. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4652778.stm

“Meanwhile, half of the new HIV victims in the US are people under the age of 25 - and most of them are black, and for black women aged 24-35, Aids is the number one cause of death.”

“Meanwhile, statistics from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) in Atlanta show that, while Aids is still thought of by some as a disease primarily affecting the gay community and drug users, the biggest risk to women comes from heterosexual partners - husbands or boyfriends who do not know or do not tell their HIV status.”

Wow, I still don’t see where it says sex with gay/bi males is the number one
risk factor. Your negativity is a powerful tool.

“Black women are also deeply affected by the HIV/AIDS epidemic. In 2005, black females aged 13 years and older accounted for 66% of the HIV/AIDS diagnoses among women [1]. The rate of HIV/AIDS diagnoses for black women was 20 times the rate for white women. Approximately three fourths of the HIV/AIDS cases diagnosed among black women during 2005 were related to high-risk heterosexual contact (i.e., with a person of the opposite sex at high risk for HIV/AIDS, including MSM or injection drug users). Blacks who are at higher risk for HIV are those who are unaware of their partner’s risk factors, have other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) (which affect blacks more than any other race/ethnicity), and have unprotected anal and vaginal intercourse [1].

HIV-infected women can pass HIV on to their babies during pregnancy, labor, delivery, or breastfeeding. As a result of effective interventions, mother-to-child transmission has declined dramatically during the past decade among all races and ethnicities. However, in 2005, 46 of the 68 children under the age of 13 with a diagnosis of AIDS were black [1].”

Still unseen. but I see a lot of other high ranking factors. If you ever see what validates your belief, quote it.

By mel

July 30, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Take it from me…

You are a great example of white privelege. So, Al and Jesse speak for me whether I like it or not, huh? Could that be because narrow-minded white people can’t/won’t see blacks as individuals?

You see, when George Bush does something stupid, nobody holds him up as a representative of all white people. Same for people like David Duke. Anna Nicole Smith isn’t a representatation of all white women. That’s white privelege.

As for the six flags situation, I agree that it’s hypocrisy, but what am I, or any other black person, supposed to do about it? It’s called free speech. We can’t change Jesse and Al, and we CERTAINLY can’t change the ignorant views of people who ASSume they speak for all of us.

Perhaps you should write letters to your the news organizations and express your displeasure at the coverage Jesse and Al get. That won’t stop them from fighting for blacks, but at least then, you wouldn’t have to hear about it.

By Roxy

July 30, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

I’m 65 and all my life from teenager to now, when you went to a party or a club, the first thing you’ll see is single white women. I asked a young man once why he preferred white woman and he told me that “they were easier than Black woman and didn’t give you any guff”. In other words, Black women won’t put up with crap from their men.

By Nononsenz

July 30, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

We as humans have regressed so much. All of the sacrifices people of all colors and noncolors made during the civil rights era have basically gone down the tube. We are all one race, human. If we could all live together like that, wouldn’t life be grand. As for white women (of which I am one), I find black men on average more attractive than white men. The other reasons are that they usually have better manners than white men and are willing to be more helpful than white men. White men would rather pay someone else to do what they should be doing. I was married to a black man for 18 years when he died. I have three beautiful grown interracial children. We went through so much, and, yes, black women could be very rude even to my children, but I don’t fault them, I fault our society. My two best girlfriends are black. I tried dating white men after my husband died just so I would not be “discriminatory” and as soon as they saw pictures of my children, I never heard from them again. I don’t need that kind of drama, so I moved on and just dated black men. I’m sure I will get some negative responses, but that’s okay, because life should be interesting and we should all be able to talk to one another about these issues. BTW, I am moving to the Atlanta area and am looking forward to dating southern men.

By Mo

July 30, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

DB You are an angry, bitter black man. You need to seek help.I will pray for you. Because as you talk about me a black woman, you are talking about the woman who created you. Learn to love yourself and maybe a truly wonderful BLACK woman will come your way.

By Take It From Me

July 30, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Mel - Al and Jesse aren’t from North Carolina either, but they stood by the Duke stripper.

Just because CNN is headquarted in Atlanta, doesn’t mean that Al and Jesse only defend blacks from Atlanta, right?

By Peggy

July 30, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

As a black female I wanted to make a few points.

1— Personally I agree with an earlier post that questioned why on earth would a white women want a black man. I have always questioned that. If they only knew what I know, they would run like hell.

2nd- I also agree with the very 1st post. It seems that white women practice birth control more. Too many black women make themselves unappealing with the amont of babies they have out of wedlock. Yeah, I know that you didn’t make the babies by yourself but you are damn sure taking care of them by yourself!

3rd- I really don’t like when black women are labled “GOLD DIGGERS”. From what I see, black women date the brokest, down and out men of any race of women. We have more men living with us (UNCOMMITED) than any race. There is not a bill at our address with their name on it which mean he can get up and leave at any time. We have the lowest marriage rates in the country but yet we are gold diggers. You can’t dig $hit without a marriage license and that’s KEEPING IT REAL!

By Prootwadl

July 30, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Wow. Thank goodness for the internet, where things like “black” and “white” don’t make as big a difference. We’re all black AND white here in blogland (at least that’s the color o the text I see).

By CDS

July 30, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Who the hell cares what color they are? I’m a black man in my mid 20s, and I never could get a date with a black woman. Why? Because the ones I have approached in the past all have told me that I act “too white”. Meanwhile, you see a lot of successful black women settling on worthless thugs instead of successful black men. I know why I’m dating a white woman, and it’s because I don’t have to act a certain way around her. She loves me for who I am, and wouldn’t change a thing about me. That’s all that really matters no matter what color.

By Carla

July 30, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Just so everyone can let this rest. The young man attacked at Six Flags is black. Please see link below.

www.wsbtv.com/video/13631627/index.html?taf=atl

To DB, I really feel sorry for you. Why would you say something like that? It’s sad that you say you’re educated but write in such an ignorant manner. I truly hope that you wake up soon and stop wasting your potential to be a great man.

By Blue_Kolla

July 30, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

@ Sensible Black Sister You make very good points, but sista, you lost me when you said that you get upset when seeing Brothers with white women. I mean really, if he weren’t with her would YOU be willing to give your all & submit to him as his wife? If not, then why would you give a damn about what and with whom that man is with?

Sensible White Dude you know the type: “hoodrat”, ghetto braids, fat, stupid, ugly, uncouth, really fat, smelly, and above all, FAT, UGLY, AND STUPID!!!

You forgot to add loud. I hate loud.

Personally the only way that I would date a Caucasian is if I managed to get back to Europe; but I’d never date an American White female; the total American history is too contaminated.

Therefore I am constantly on the lookout for the Good Sister who is a rare jewel and extremely hard to find.

By mel

July 30, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

Take it from me…

I don’t follow on your last post. I never said anything about where they are from. Maybe you quoted the wrong person.

At any rate, let me let you in on something…and I know I need to add a disclaimer for you…I don’t speak for all black people

I don’t know a single black person who thinks that hard about Jesse and Al. Everyone I know laughs at them and thinks they’re good for some things, but useless most of the time.

You seem a little obsessed with them, though. Maybe that’s why they’re so famous now lol.

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

@WG: You are better off wearing a Jersey and wearing an oversized T-shirt.

By By love

July 30, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Oh my God.. i never seen so much judgement,hatered ,lust and racism and some of these comments sound like some people need to pray and ask the lord to delivered them from there hurt and judgement….. can we all just get along and love one another and stop the judgement..As long as the the earth remains there will be good and evil but in the end we know good wins..So be good stop the judgement!!! I love eveybody i don’t care who you date if you with the wrong soul mate want work anyway…

By Charlie

July 30, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

(To) Take It From Me:

Here’s your answer, If you had more sense that a ferret, you would know that there were was not 25 people involved and that both victims’ mother is black, excuse me, African American. Now just because you’ve been rejected several times in the past, don’t hate on our culture. I have nothing against white women but I’ll tell tou this, I’ve noticed Whites are likely to be popping pills for whatever “ailment” they claim to have or hitting the sauce every night before bedtime than than WE are.

By mel

July 30, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Hey, I’m still waiting for someone to answer my question about the overweight white women.

**This is not a knock on them, this is in direct response to the assertion that some of you wouldn’t date a black woman because she’s big, yet all I see are black men with heavy white women.

By allerickb@gmail.com

July 30, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

REPOST

I completely agree with Mel, too!

Does anyone happen to recognize these words: “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”? I guess some (apparently a lot) of us still haven’t reached this point yet. I’m tired of these types of blogs and discussions that generalize an entire race of people as this or that. The fact of the matter is that you’ll find black and whites (and all other races for that matter) at each ends of the spectrum. To use stereotypes to generalize an entire race is both ignorant and irresponsible. I would have rather been blogging about the new Simpson’s movie, rather than this tired subject.

AB

By Carla

July 30, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

CDS, never say never. You haven’t met enough Black women to say that. I don’t quite understand the type of women you’re interested in if they tell you you act too white. That’s a term I haven’t heard since high school. Maybe you need to reevaluate the type of women you’re seeking out.

By Take It From Me

July 30, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Mel - We are talking about two different things - Anna Nicole Smith did not get on national tv and defend white people. George Bush is OUR president - he represents the nation as a whole. Al and Jesse represent black people, not white. Of course, everyone as their own individual opinions, but when Al and Jesse include you in their speeches, they are speaking on your behalf, i.e…”black people will no longer tolerate, etc…”.

I just wanted someone to admit that they are hypocrites - and you just did, so…I’m out-

By blakgirl

July 30, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

mel, to answer you question it’s because white women are perceived to be the epitome of beauty. A lot of good looking black men date a overweight white woman, but will never date a overweight black woman. Most biracial kids are out of wedlock, too. So, I guess overweight white woman don’t practice birth control either. It has to do with self hatred. They figure well at least she is a white woman and our kids won’t be dark. It’s happen to men in my own family. They called black women argumentative and fat, but they get a fat white girl who gives them a biracial kid and calls and curses them out about money all the time. It’s like my mother says, black, white, yellow, or red, all men think with their little heads!

By mel

July 30, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Take it from me…

Yes!!!! Vindication!!! It’s true! Black people agree with you. Jesse and Al are hypocrites! Now you can go tell your coworkers that even black people think so! Some black lady on a blog cleared it all up for you!!!

Good grief.

By Blue_Kolla

July 30, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

I’m looking for the sister that’s hanging around the white chicks! LOL

By T. Hayes

July 30, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

When it all boils down, Black men and white women date each other BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO SO! No one is forcing them to do it. They are doing it of their own free will just as you have some Black women who date white men. It’s a part of life…deal with it.

Also, if you don’t approve of interracial relationships, that’s cool. But PLEASE don’t send all of YOUR hate and insecurity to the people who are open minded enough to live outside of the box that many people try to them in. Turn that negative energy into something positive…be productive instead of destructive. Peace!

By SteveAtlGa

July 30, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

As a white guy in 40’s, I love my black male and female friends. I don’t care if the black guys date white women and if I weren’t married(white girl), I would have no prob dating a prof. black woman. However, I have yet to see any whote woman with a black guy that I really thought was classy. If I were black, I woudl want to date both black and white women!! Race is secondary!! In the end, it all comes down to who you have the most in common with, and for most of us, it is someone of our own race. One thing for sure - the stats show that fewer black guys are getting a college education and more black women are in college, leading to better futures. This was true when I was in college 20 yrs ago too. So, if the black woman gets a better education, better job, the black guys want white women, the white guys want white women, what’s a successful black woman to do? Beauty and class come in all races. Genearlizations we all make are just wrong…..

By Anthony

July 30, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

In my opinion because I am a African American male, everyone should have the right to chose whoever they want to date marry ect…. We must remember that the United States is a Black and White country, So why not find someone who is going to make you happy no matter what race they are.

By Spud

July 30, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Some of these comments are simply outrageous. It’s amazing how black men and women as a group, pre-judge one another. We have so many “prejudices” of one another. How can we love each other when we seem to have so much resentment for one another? I’ve only been in relationships where my partner accepted me at face value; not some preconceived notion of who they thought I should be or act. Preconceived notions and attitudes like these are the reason why I am so careful in choosing my friends. I will not tolerate being judged by people who don’t know me.

It fascinates me how many black men and especially black women judge me. Comments like “what is he doing with her?” simply stupefy me. My response is “where were you before her when I was young, single, and ambitious but BROKE?” I was the same guy then as I am now, hell, I was better. I was younger and thinner. So again, I ask, where were you? I know where you were. You were standing on the sideline, trying to be cute and judging and ostracizing me.

So to anyone who wants to know why I’ve married a white woman, I’m obliged to say that I didn’t date and ultimately marry her because she was white. I married a GOOD woman, who happens to be white.

Unfortunately, some people do seek out another race simply for shock value and those relationships never last. But those that stay together make it because kindness, goodness, love and mutual respect. Not race!

By Take It From Me

July 30, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Hey, I’m just glad to know that there are black people out there that also think that Al and Jesse look ridiculous most of the time. I will admit, I have never heard a black come forth and disagree with them. Yes, it is indeed, a great sign.

By DebbieDoRight

July 30, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

thatguy: hmmmm did you read the CDC link that I gave you? If not here it is again:

Black men who have sex with men (MSM), whether they identify themselves as gay, bisexual, or heterosexual, are most severely affected by HIV/AIDS compared with other high-risk groups such as injection drug users PART I

*Approximately three fourths of the HIV/AIDS cases diagnosed among black women during 2005 were related to high-risk heterosexual contact (i.e., with a person of the opposite sex at high risk for HIV/AIDS, including MSM or injection drug users). PART II

Broken down it states black women having high risk heterosexual sex with an MSM, or with an injection drug user, contributed to 3/4 of the diagnosed cases of 2005.

What is making you confused about this data?

Here’s the link again: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/aa/resources/reports/heightendresponse.htm#t1

By Brandy

July 30, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

This question is to all of the black men who left comments. Should I just stop while I’m ahead and give up on black men. Just wanted to know so that I won’t continue to waste my time on people who could give a _ about my kind.

By mel

July 30, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

blakgirl…

I agree with you. I want to here from some of these brothers, though. lol

Take it from me…

I’m done with you. Your ignorance is mystifying. Good day!

By Gary

July 30, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Wow. People are really affected by this topic! Not only do rappers dis their (black) women, but professional men do too! Jeez, I’d hate to be a black woman in this day and age where you just can’t get no respect…as Rodney Dangerfield would say. Trust me, no matter what color you are, we all have issues and/or baggage to deal with.

By Atlanta to DC/MD/VA

July 30, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

When are we going to stop talking about this subject? This is crazy. Why does it matter who dates who? I thought it was all in the name of Love. I don’t care if I fall in love with a White, Hispanic or Asian guy, as long as I’m happy. I’m not out here trying to please anyone but the guy that I am with. I use to have the same feelings about 15 years ago, until my younger brother started to date a European/Italian girl (and yes there is a difference, will explain in a minute). When I saw how in love he was with her, that’s when my feelings changed. They dated for 9 years and I still believe she was the best thing that ever happened to him…………….. But you know this is not only black or white thing, other races hate when they go outside of the “race”. The young lady who my brother was dating, her parents had to go through the same thing. The mother’s friends would ask her why is she dating a “spik” (slang for dirty Italian) and the father had to go through so much more, I mean it’s all over………..So if I find a black man to date and marry, great. If I find a white man, great; whomever the Lord wants me to be with. But this is ridiculous for us in 2007 to still have a problem with this………and yes there are still black woman out there with sense and laid back….I am 29, no children, educated (in my doctorate program), my own car, about to purchase my house (4bd, 3ba) in 30 days, great job, Christian and loves sports…..but I don’t care if a black man passes me by because I know that there is a man put on this earth just for me…………we need to get off this white/black thing and just realize that everyone is a human being and the Lord put someone down here for someone else. Just because it isn’t you, don’t hate, congratulate.

By sage

July 30, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

@aa I am single because my husband of 5 years died!! Don’t hate… motivate!!

@searching for sage Thank you!! We should take this off-line!

By Yvette

July 30, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

As a black woman myself in her early thirties, I have never had any trouble at all dating or finding decent black men to date. My boyfriend now tells me all the time, that I am the 1st black woman he has ever dated that he has been completely happy with. He thought he would never find a black woman who accepts him for who he is & is not a golddigger, actually knows that Red Lobster is not fine dining, a black B**, & does not act “ghetto-fabulous”. (He was one of the men that was on the verge of dating other races exclusively) Ladies, there are ways to be strong & express yourself without acting ignorant & making a man feel like he’s nothing. I find myself really embarassed at how some black women act. Many of them are so high maintenance & diva acting, its no wonder they can’t find a good brotha to take them out! Whenever my boyfriend & I show up at a nice place or even just go to the gym to work out together, I get the evil stare down from you guessed it, my fellow sistas! I’m not saying ALL black women are like this, but maybe if you would treat the brothas right & act a little more lady-like when they take you somewhere, they might be more interested in you. Whenever I see a black man with a woman of another race, it does not bother me at all. In my opinion, good black women here are rare to the black men. So the next time you start “hating” on a black man for dating a woman of another race, take a look in the mirror 1st because you may be the problem.

By A REAL Systa

July 30, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

BTW … I would date a man outside my race ANY day!! It’s about the person … not the color.

By Sadden

July 30, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

It saddens me that so many black men have posted such demeaning comments about your grandmothers, mothers and daughters. We are the only community that I know that doesn’t protect and stand up for our own race. Do you think that hispanic men would allow others outside there race disrepect there women? My dear brothers society has already labled ALL African American Men as thugs, lazy, baby makes, dumb,need I say more, don’t allow them to also demean your women. If you choose to date outside your race for love thats fine but don’t let society make us believe its because th white women are a better choice merely because of race. Regardless what they say about our, MY black men I love them and would defend why I think they are the best choice for African American Woman any day.

By livinginatl

July 30, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Spud …so true…where were the black women that insist on giving my husband and I dirty looks when he was broke in his 20’s? They didn’t want anything to do with him or his friends because they didn’t have enough cash or a nice enough car.
Well now that they are successful businessmen or in the big leagues they are claiming some type of ownership.
Too late…they found women (mostly latin and white) that were there thru thick and thin.
And guess what *Mel we are not fat and ugly…sorry to disappoint.

By aa

July 30, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

@Journ @ Young, black Gifted.. I hope you are educated, because you dont sound like it. Reading is fundemental. They are dissing black women, can you read? For Journ. I am not bitter, I have a beautiful Black man by my side, who is highly educated..so you sound bitter and I am probably right..

By Money

July 30, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

@Brandy July 30, 2007 12:46 PM

Why in the world would you give up on black men because of something you read on a blog. Here is a bit of advice from a MAN; Take care of yourself and the men will take care of themselves. Focus on making you the best you that you can be and then you will ATTRACT the type of men who are attracted to those qualities.

By Atlanta to DC/MD/VA

July 30, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

@ Yvette I totally agre! You said it girl.

By Brandy

July 30, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Lastly, I am currently in college/working a full-time job/ Own condo Downtown/ Black/ Own Transportation, No kids, and 23 years old. It don’t matter what you got going on Black Guys just want White Women. and I don’t not see a lot if *Black Men as my classmates. Hello! Did half of you even attend school and then want to make it seem like ALL Black women are dumb. That’s stupid. If half the Black Men did not go to school, what does that make yall. The Dumb ones, right? If a Black man wants to date a White/Other Women, do it. My only thing is don’t try to justify your decision by putting your mothers, sisters, cousins, and daughters down. The Crazy shyt jiggas say to sound sophisticated but make our race look that much ignorant. Can praise someone else of a different race but dog out your own people, but then again, they wouldn’t have the balls to say that shyt in the streets. Parade their white women around and then want to keep their hood pass. Make up your minds. Come to Black clubs with the White girl and then dog out Black people. Stupid Shyt.

By Tilla

July 30, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

AMEN@Yvette

By mel

July 30, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Living…

I didn’t say you all were fat and I certainly never said you were ugly. Hmm…defensive?

No, my question was directed toward the men who said they wouldn’t date black women becuase they were fat, when we all know that many of these IR relationships involve heavyset white women. Again, I never said that was a bad thing, just that it’s kind of hypocritical.

Sorry that you got defensive lol.

By Brandy

July 30, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Lastly, I am currently in college/working a full-time job/ Own condo Downtown/ Black/ Own Transportation, No kids, and 23 years old. It don’t matter what you got going on Black Guys just want White Women. and I don’t not see a lot if *Black Men as my classmates. Hello! Did half of you even attend school and then want to make it seem like ALL Black women are dumb. That’s stupid. If half the Black Men did not go to school, what does that make yall. The Dumb ones, right? If a Black man wants to date a White/Other Women, do it. My only thing is don’t try to justify your decision by putting your mothers, sisters, cousins, and daughters down. The Crazy shyt jiggas say to sound sophisticated but make our race look that much ignorant. Can praise someone else of a different race but dog out your own people, but then again, they wouldn’t have the balls to say that shyt in the streets. Parade their white women around and then want to keep their hood pass. Make up your minds. Come to Black clubs with the White girl and then dog out Black people. Stupid Shyt.

By Blue_Kolla

July 30, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Brandy Give Up?! Now that, would be totally maniacal. If you’re a rare jewel, keep shining and you’ll be found. (You may need to assist me with a clue as to where to look though. ;P)

By Tilla

July 30, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Yvette you hit the nail right on the head. I agree with you 100%.

By Brandy

July 30, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

@ Money

Because, in a way, MAJORITY of the Black Men are stating the same things. I mean, I have been noticing lately that a their is a lot of interracial dating going on. More so Black men. White women and wanted to know what the deal was so now I know. Black women have bad reps and that’s jacked sooooo I am thinking of throwing in my cards and going elsewhere. I mean, if I’m not appreciated, why waste anymore time when they ain’t going to do anything but (In the words of Kanye) “But when he comes up he leaves your azz for a White Girl”

By Reality Check

July 30, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

Laughing hysterically…

By Derek

July 30, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

He should have titled the film “Why White Women Love Black Men”. White women are clearly the aggressors with interracial dating. I am speaking from experience. I have only had sex with white women and would never be seen in public together with one out of respect for black women. Every white woman that I ever met came on to me and agreed to my terms. Now they tried everything under the sun to convince me to have a normal relationship, but I refused. I’m not a racist, but I want to marry a woman that looks like my mother, grandmother, great-grandmother and every other black woman on this planet.

By Patrick

July 30, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Wow….it just goes to show how people really think when you give them a topic that hits home, and no faces to put to the words. I think that too many times, people assert their opinions onto others based upon past experiences, rather than facts. People are drawn together by common interests, both mental and physical. If two people happen to meet with those common interests and goals, so be it.

There are way too many crazy people out there for anyone to limit your choices by a skin color. If you take away crazy, obsessive, controlling, etc., from the vast number of PEOPLE worldwide, and then add to that a skin color choice; you’re pretty much stacking the deck against yourself.

I say date who you want, and remember that all of those staring at you probably have some baggage to deal with and need to figure that out before they pass it to their kids. Any many times, those who are staring at you probably aren’t the ones you would date if you were to choose that particular type of partner.

By Jazz

July 30, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

I don’t really care why a black man dates black women. For one thing, if you are a black man and you date white women, keep it to yourself. I don’t care who you date and who you date has nothing to do with me. If black men would keep black women’s name out of their mouth so much maybe black women wouldn’t be so angry at IR b/w black men and white women. STOP bashing us. Obviously black men do need us, because they are surely always talking about us.

By Reality Check

July 30, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

Laughing hysterically…

By Uninterested But...

July 30, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Ok, I have to address Take it From Me. Please read before you continue to embarass yourself. The kid at Six Flags was black. If you watched the news, you would have noticed his black mother and grandmother as well. That being said, get on a new soapbox. But, please brush up on the facts first.

By blurose

July 30, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

I believe that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, if a black man chooses todate a white woman that’s his perference, it may be because they want something different that’s the same as a black woman dating white man something different, doesn’t matter we are all made by GOD!!!!

By Blue_Kolla

July 30, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

…Now nominating Yvette for “Woman Of The Year”.

By Yvette

July 30, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

@Atlanta to DC/MD/VA & Tilla - Thanks!! Someone had to call that out! LOL!

By deep south

July 30, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

I’m a black man. 25 YO. Until very recently I only dated black women. Became disappointed with black women when I kept running into the same issues. (Daddy issues, they want bad boys, don’t appreciate good men, run from good men…)It’s not necessarily better or worse on the other side. Date who you like, just don’t do it to get back at anyone. you could miss somebody special that way. We’re all God’s children. Be with who makes you better.

By S

July 30, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

First off, I don’t care who’s dating who? But to characterized black women as gold diggers, B**, and lazy seems pretty pathetic. All black women are not the same. I will not stoop to your level by characterizing caucasian women as wanna be’s because every summer they become as dark as I am. Why???

By Angel a

July 30, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

I am a black female and I have dated white men. If I were to generalize and stereotype, I understand why black men date white women. On the flip side, white men: 1. Have a job and investments 2. No emotional burdens 3. Happy to meet the parents 4. Pay and pull out the chair when on dates 5.Love natural hair 6. Want to hear your opinion 7. Don’t aspire to be a pimp, ball player or rapper 8. Minimum to none baby mamma drama

By Angel a

July 30, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

I am a black female and I have dated white men. If I were to generalize and stereotype, I understand why black men date white women. On the flip side, white men: 1. Have a job and investments 2. No emotional burdens 3. Happy to meet the parents 4. Pay and pull out the chair when on dates 5.Love natural hair 6. Want to hear your opinion 7. Don’t aspire to be a pimp, ball player or rapper 8. Minimum to none baby mamma drama

By Young, Gifted and Black

July 30, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

@aa: To ease your troubling mind, I am educated. So, whatever your point was try to make another one will you because that one is pretty played out.

By Blue_Kolla

July 30, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

Derek *Every white woman that I ever met came on to me and agreed to my terms. *

All I can tell you is that you better watcha azz, especially down here in the south Black Man. One wrong accusation and you’re going to be done. You better check the history.

By Money

July 30, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

@Brandy, I have to ask, are you looking for a good man, or are you only looking for a good black man? Look, at 23 you are young and should be looking at enjoying your 20’s as much as you can. Do not throw away your 20’s looking for a man. Date, enjoy yourself, finish your education, travel, and get to know YOU. In a few years you may come to find that what you want then is not the same as what you are looking for now.

By slimdog

July 30, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

I am a black male that sees personality before I see color. I do not have a preference as far as a black or white woman is concerned but I will go as far as to say that when I have met white women, we have gone out on three or four dates before the subject of finances has ever come up.

With black women, it seems that they are so in a hurry to find out what kind of car I drive, what neighborhood I live in, what I do for a living, and other generalities that lead to what I am bringing to the table.

I have no problem with a woman not wanting to waste her time, as there are a lot of guys out there these days that will do that to them.

I am just saying that black women need to slow down, and not seem so anxious to make a man thier husband during the first week of meeting.

Black women also miss out on good men because they are quick to let their trifling friends influence their relationship decisions. I wish black women would realize that their friend with four kids by four men who has no job and has never been married and can’t keep a man, is not the person to take advice from when it comes to a relationship.

By Brandy

July 30, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

I love the Castlberry Area ;-)

By Brandy

July 30, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

@ Blue_Kolla

I love the Castlberry Area ;-)

By jazz

July 30, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Thank God, I had a wonderful Black father and brother and several wonderful black uncles as examples of not just what a black man should be, but of what a MAN should be. To bad all of the good brothers have to be lumped in with all these bitter brother out here. And why doesn’t AJC have an article about why WHITE MEN LOVE TO DATE AND MARRY ASIAN WOMEN??? There was recently an article in a Cali newspaper about white women getting p** at so many white men marrying Asian girls.

By Frank Ski

July 30, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

Black women are whorish and vulgar…

By Clayton Bigsby

July 30, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

I’m a black man that lived and dated a white woman for 3 years

I enjoyed every moment, except when I was at Greenbriar Mall. Color means nothing once you get to know people. Black and white women want and do the same things. Women are the same no matter what color they are. They’re all confusing, and none are alike.

By Listen!

July 30, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

Many blacks hate themselves, men especially. Their mothers had to work 2 & 3 jobs, their fathers were not around and they are angry with black women for not being there. Someone mentioned reassurance and that’s exactly what they are looking for. Someone also mentioned that black women want the house, money, car immediately. At least you know up front what they want, white women play the role of the “oh so supportive one” and take you for every dollar you have once you’ve either married or impregnated them. So be careful, date someone you are interested in because they are good people and not what you think they are. You should want someone up front with you instead of being slick. Many black women just want someone they can depend on and want men to be accountable. Many black men run from responsibility.

By JAMIE GUMM

July 30, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

I have dated both, but am currently dating a white woman. I’ve read as much as I could of this blog, and the one thing I’ve seen that reads true - Black Women always have their hands out! No so much physically, but by their actions. Even a trip to the mall with a Black woman and she doesn’t even consider paying for her own soda. My White woman will stop me when she sees me reach for my pocket and will say “I’ll get this one!”. When we first started dating, I felt awkward because I had grown accustomed to footing the bill for EVERYTHING. I’ll tell you fellas, it’s refreshing to NOT have to always check your wallet before meeting up at the local watering hole. I’ve been spoiled, and you will be too!!!!!!

By Listen!

July 30, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

Many blacks hate themselves, men especially. Their mothers had to work 2 & 3 jobs, their fathers were not around and they are angry with black women for not being there. Someone mentioned reassurance and that’s exactly what they are looking for. Someone also mentioned that black women want the house, money, car immediately. At least you know up front what they want, white women play the role of the “oh so supportive one” and take you for every dollar you have once you’ve either married or impregnated them. So be careful, date someone you are interested in because they are good people and not what you think they are. You should want someone up front with you instead of being slick. Many black women just want someone they can depend on and want men to be accountable. Many black men run from responsibility right in the arms of a white woman.

By Listen!

July 30, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

Many blacks hate themselves, men especially. Their mothers had to work 2 & 3 jobs, their fathers were not around and they are angry with black women for not being there. Someone mentioned reassurance and that’s exactly what they are looking for. Someone also mentioned that black women want the house, money, car immediately. At least you know up front what they want, white women play the role of the “oh so supportive one” and take you for every dollar you have once you’ve either married or impregnated them. So be careful, date someone you are interested in because they are good people and not what you think they are. You should want someone up front with you instead of being slick. Many black women just want someone they can depend on and want men to be accountable. Many black men run from responsibility right in the arms of a white woman.

By jamie gumm

July 30, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

I have dated both, but am currently dating a white woman. I’ve read as much as I could of this blog, and the one thing I’ve seen that reads true - Black Women always have their hands out! No so much physically, but by their actions. Even a trip to the mall with a Black woman and she doesn’t even consider paying for her own soda. My White woman will stop me when she sees me reach for my pocket and will say “I’ll get this one!”. When we first started dating, I felt awkward because I had grown accustomed to footing the bill for EVERYTHING. I’ll tell you fellas, it’s refreshing to NOT have to always check your wallet before meeting up at the local watering hole. I’ve been spoiled, and you will be too!!!!!!

By JLC

July 30, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

I am a 34 year old white woman that has dated both black and white men. I find white men generally want a tall, skinny barbie doll kind of woman and I do not fit that mold. I am 5’4 and 145 lbs. I am not fat and sloppy by any means but too “fat” for most white men. Black men are also more laid back and not so jealous. It’s all in what you like…not everybody is going to like interracial dating but screw them!! If it doesn’t affect them then they need to mind their own business!!

By Brandy

July 30, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

@ Money

So Am I to wait until I am old and grey to find the right man? My grandparents were bragging to me that they were married when they were 22 years old and are still holding it down after 45 years of marriage. All I’m saying is that I don’t want to wait until I’m all bitter to find a man. At this rate, I’m trying to figure if there is ANY hope or should I jump the fence.

While school is out for the summer, I picked up an part-time job to A. Keep me out of trouble and B. Put some extra money in my pockets. Long story short, the job is in Midtown and I have come across some fine white/Middle Eastern men who would love to date. I never took them serious but hey, why not, Im starting to think. I mean, why not..

By Tilla

July 30, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

The black men I met here were very surprised when I would tell them I don’t have any children, I mean they really seemed shocked. Some women they meet have a baby by this one, that one and the other. I hear that most guys believe most black women what a man with the fancy car, big fancy house when they meet. Where in the bible does it say that a man or woman has to have all that when they meet each other. How come that can’t be accomplished together. People today seem to base everything on material things. All black women aren’t gold diggers. All of us don’t carry drama and all of this other stuff that has been said.

By JCL

July 30, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah…just for the record…most black men are much better sexually than white men. The myth about “size” is not a “myth”.

By Troy

July 30, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

After reading most of these silly ignorant comments if I was from another planet, I would wonder about the fate of black women in this country. Her ass is to big, nose to big, lips to big, hair nappy, wears fake hair, not beautiful enough, not smart enough, to loud and agressive, loves welfare and having lots of babies, if she have more than one kid it has to be from 5 different men. Not only do black women get this stupid ignorant crap from white society they get it from some black men as well. So all of you that complain about the behavior of black women what the hell do you expect when as a black woman they are faced with stupid ignorant silly crap as mentioned above. Black women didn’t create this mess in the black community alone, they had help from whites and black men equally as well.

By K.E. Warner

July 30, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

I would hope that they are dating because they like one another, and not just because they are white. In this world if you can find someone to love and that loves you, what difference does it truly make what color they are? I must also respond to “E”. If I as a Black woman, have a house, a car, a career and money in the bank, IRAs, money market funds, stocks, bonds, etc. PLEASE tell me what is wrong with expecting a man I am dating to have these things too?? I won’t lower my standards just to have “any” man regardless of his color.

By Money

July 30, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

@Brandy, as a man that is a little older than you I will try not to be offended by the “old and grey” comment.

As far as your grandparents are concerned it is a beautiful thing for them to have married at 22, but those were different times. I have seen too many young people outgrow their relationships and end up divorced(more drama).

And when it comes to your those men that are interested in dating you, if you are interested in dating them I say by all means do not limit yourself. When you limit yourself you pass up on opportunities to do different things, and learn about yourself and the world around you. You might just enjoy yourself.

By Blue_Kolla

July 30, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

Jamie I’ll tell you fellas, it’s refreshing to NOT have to always check your wallet before meeting up at the local watering hole.

Yeah dude, that is “refreshing”, to have a partner on your side (Black or White), versus some living weight and ankle chain.

By Voice of Reason

July 30, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

I knew this blog would be nastyily hot and filled with many vicious accusations from all sides, so I’ve tried to stay away. I find it funny—as in ‘sad’—that people accuse Black women of having their hands out, etc., when, if you look around, it is the white woman that flocks to the Black men with the big cash.

There is SO MUCH to say on this topic, but I think this blatant nationwide attack on Black women needs to stop—from ALL CORNERS.

An excerpt of an article was in the AJC last year; search the full article “Open Season on America’s Black Women?” It tells of the ‘whys’ of this issue and calls everyone to task.

Whether it’s the primary fact that the media fails to show Black women in a positive light, and men are visual (that can’t help but affect their psyche!). But to bash Black women as if a sport is unnecesary and shame on Black men for doing so and/or allowing it to happen and for others to do so. Without the Black woman, where would the Black church, Black family be? I can’t get into the multiple components (no time), but check out that article in full.

I am a Black woman, and my man gets his feet pedicured, body massaged and stomach fed—by me—among other things. Some of the accusations here are just NOT accurate and people need to stop spewing crap just to spew it.

Young Black women are “angry” that when they look around they’re being called names, don’t hear “love songs,” and only see young “brothers” dressing like a thug/hood rat and can’t speak English.How dare some Black guys bash Black women for not falling in the gutter with that. Angry that fake boobs, tans, etc., are “beautiful,” but when naturally occurring in a Black female, it’s not desired. When is a fake cubic zirconia better than a real diamond?

I doubt I’ll even check back; the vile here is unhealthy. Get educated. And, again…say “Black American” NOT African-American. If you were born in this country, you’re a Black American.

By DebbieDoRight

July 30, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

Jamie: By Calling her “My White Woman” instead of “My lady”, “My Girl”, or “My Girlfriend”, says a lot about you and your perspective. It’s saying it LOUDLY.

Listen!: Their mothers had to work 2 & 3 jobs, their fathers were not around and they are angry with black women for not being there.

It’s an evil, vicious, cycle this self hate. What’s a mother to do? Let her children starve? Go on welfare and be called a welfare queen? For some reason, some black men see a strong woman who had to be strong, as someone who is eviscerating and emasculating the black male with her strength!

There are guys complaining about the black female strength while in the same breath complaining about their “supposed” gold digger qualities!! I’m amazed at the hypocritical bullcrap!

By Roxy

July 30, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

To D.B

You must really hate your mom, grandmother, aunts, etc. your pathetic! P.S. I’m a white woman and you are disgusting!

By Erik Gordon - FILMMAKER

July 30, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

This is Erik Gordon, filmmaker of Why Do Black Men Date White Women? Thank you to Alan Smithee for opening up this topic to his blog. The film was orginally made 18 months ago. My goal was just to answer the question. From reading the comments posted, I am pleased we are still able to dialogue about the topic. To answer some of the questions, no I have not dated a white woman, yes, I am posing the question Why do Black Women Date White Men, and it is really up to the individual. Decide for yourself. [www.whyblackdatewhite.com] and plaese continue to talk about it.

Thanks again Alan!!!!

Erik Gordon, filmmaker

By Blue_Kolla

July 30, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

So WTF are you saying Troy, that I should embrace all of that fake-azz weave and nails, funky attitudes, and bebes?! Hayo naah! You can have all that. Give me the India Arie natural type of female any day.

By Atlanta to DC/MD/VA

July 30, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

Amen @ Voice of Reason. Amen!!!

By So Glad

July 30, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Yep, so glad I don’t have to deal with all this B-S I’m reading on this blog. So many on here seem to be totally screwed up in the head. I already have a beautiful black wifey, who provides for and supports me; and I provide for and support her in all that she does. As for my daughter, not concerned..because my job as a FATHER is to raise her to not accept anything less than a decent, intelligent, respectable Black man into her space or life, or any man for that matter. To raise her to be an accomplished, self sufficient lady and to have quiet confidence without the chestbeating and anger. I know there are good Black men out there, I am one of them. She has an example to follow. Does that mean the door is closed to other races? No. But you can bet she will know and be open to a great Black man who compliments her when she comes across him. Period.

By Leah

July 30, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Reading through this blog, as a white woman, I was struck by the fact that the majority of the negative comments about black women came from black men, yet most of the comments from black women, with respect to this topic, were negative towards white women. I think that is part of the problem. Why does there have to be so much anger directed towards someone just because of the color of their skin. Doesn’t this seem like we’re going backwards?

I’ve dated black men, almost exclusively, since I was 14 or 15. This isn’t because of anything other than I’m attracted to black men in a way that I’m not attracted to white men. And this attraction came from a place that was free of the knowledge that I carry with me now in my 30s…that interracial dating, from a white woman’s perspective, is looked at as another way to steal from a black woman what is hers. First, let me say that I wholeheartedly disagree with the use of the statement “our men,” which I so commonly hear from black women when they discuss white women taking their men. None of us belong to anyone, and I definitely don’t relate or attach myself to white men just because they have white skin. I relate to people on a different level than just the color of their skin…again, doesn’t it seem like all of this is just taking us in the wrong direction?

I don’t want to be generalized anymore, as in previous postings (white trash, wanting to be black), just because I date black men. Aren’t we trying to get away from generalizing, discriminating, or judging someone just because it’s the easy thing to do.

In closing, black men are beautiful and that’s the reason why I’m attracted to them…it’s as simple that!!

By Last American

July 30, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

I don’t know why. I’m only attracted to my own race. I do have a question- a white women in work in married to a black man - they have two children - she refers to them as being white - they look black - not white - she has gained weight because her husband does not like thin women.Her behind (she refers to that as her tail) looks like a black women butt - what’s up with her?

By Lisa

July 30, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

After reading most the postings, all I can say is “Wow”! Some have made it seem as though Black women are less than human being; deserving of nothing good or positive. Our own Black men say we’re disrespectful and have too much attitude. White women say we’re lazy and stupid. And White men call us ugly. May GOD bless all who feel that way.

To my Black sisters who are in the struggle (you know what I mean), hold your heads high. To my wonderful Black brothers who have not turned your backs on us, I love you and thank GOD for you.

And last; but not least… To my strong Black MAN - - I love you, respect you, and honor you. You are my King!

By Kinsman Redeemer

July 30, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

@ Listen!

Obviously you were hurt in your life at some point and time —> get over it. Black men date white women because they are women. That’s just that. All of this crap that is posted totally attempts to destroy the soul of a black women. White men and white women tend to stereotype black women according one bad incident out of a million good ones. Black woman be strong, and dont let this dig in the back put anger in your heart. If you really want to know the God’s honest truth about interracial dating, peep this —> http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/interace.html

By allerickb@gmail.com

July 30, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

I’m kind of disappointed that you’re “pleased we are still able to dialogue about this topic”. Honestly, what were you expecting? Anything regarding race has always been, and will unfortunately be (as least in the near future) a hot topic. I honestly think there are more important issues such of poverty, addiction, violence, and education that this trivial blog & subject as a whole should take a backseat too.

AB

By BEE

July 30, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

THIS IS A SAD DAY FOR THE HUMAN RACE TO SPEND VALUABLE TIME DISCUSSING SOMETHING THAT HAPPEN IN THE BIBLE. MOVE ON FROM THIS FUTILE CONVERSATION AND DISCUSS ISSUES THAT NEED ATTENTION LIKE THE WAR IN IRAQ; SICK PEOPLE MOLESTING CHILDREN; RAPE; INCEST; HOMOSEXUALITY. THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU ALL SHOULD BE DISCUSSING. HOW TO PUT AN END TO ALL OF THESE THINGS AND LIVE LIFE THAT IS PLEASING TO GOD AND THAT WILL NURTURE OUR CHILDREN AS THEY ARE OUR TOMORROW. WHAT EXAMPLE ARE YOU ALL SETTING FOR OUR CHILDREN BY HAVING SUCH FUTILE CONVERSATION LIKE THIS. SO SAD; IMMATURE; SMALL MINDED. YOU ALL REALLY NEED TO GROW UP.

By Blue_Kolla

July 30, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Last American she has gained weight because her husband does not like thin women.Her behind (she refers to that as her tail) looks like a black women butt - what’s up with her?

Sounds to me that nothing is up with her; she’s taking steps to please her husband - one of the cornerstones of any prosperous marriage. Take notes.

By Adam

July 30, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Andrea makes a very good point. The bottom line is that the decision to dat a white woman comes down to the individiual involved. When people are making a decision, they aren’t thinking about what their respective race will think. I know that I’m not. I’m a black man. I love my people despite our flaws as a group. Personally, I’m not opposed to dating black women. I’m an equal opportunity kind of guy. I love women period. If some sistas had a problem with my choice, I can’t be bothered by that. I know why I chose who I chose. And I can definitely say that self-hate isn’t it. Frankly, I hope that I meet a woman who loves and accepts me for who I am. I don’t care how she racially identifies herself. If you’re a sista, that’s great. I’ll be ecstatic.

By DebbieDoRight

July 30, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

You may write me down in history; With your bitter, twisted lies,; You may trod me in the very dirt; But still, like dust, I’ll rise.;

Does my sassiness upset you?; Why are you beset with gloom?; ;’Cause I walk like I’ve got oil wells; Pumping in my living room.

Just like moons and like suns,; With the certainty of tides,; Just like hopes springing high,; Still I’ll rise.

Did you want to see me broken?; Bowed head and lowered eyes?; Shoulders falling down like teardrops.; Weakened by my soulful cries.

Does my haughtiness offend you?; Don’t you take it awful hard; ‘Cause I laugh like I’ve got gold mines; Diggin’ in my own back yard.

You may shoot me with your words,; You may cut me with your eyes,; You may kill me with your hatefulness,; But still, like air, I’ll rise.

By shell

July 30, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

This is why as a black woman, I have given up dating. I Am happily divorced and quite frankly do not care if I ever married again. These comments have made me realize that black women are not value in this society. The problem is black men don’t value black women, so why would any race would do the same. I was married to a black man for seven years and heard all these negative comments from my him. Still, I hope my daughters meet nice black men and get married. Yet, for myself I keep treating myself like a princess.
Sidenote: I am not one those fat lazy black women you all keep bringing up. I am a cute size 6 working on her Masters.

By Batman

July 30, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Holy, Cow! This topic has brough up more responses than the immigration debte and the Bush/Gore election combined!

By LOL (NOT REALLY)

July 30, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

People presume what their environment or preconceive notions dictate from experience. The reality is Black men are attracted to women in general for a variety of reasons. I have dated many different nationalities. I ASSURE YOU, everyone has there PROS and CONS and it has LITTLE TO DO WITH RACE. Peolple are people. Black men are attracted to White women the same reason they are attracted to black women, there is some set of characteristics that makes that person stand out and above the norm. Some base their decision just on RACE. We all know this to be a simpleton but true. Others Finances, spirituality, Physical appearance, etc. Whatever the case. The real question should be how does this question affect future generations and would your opinion be one of acceptance, disapproval, ignorance, discrimatory, racist, etc.

By Candid

July 30, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

It’s comical, some of the posts that appear hear. What it all boils down to, is how you are treated, black or white. To the black women that are “misunderstood” and labeled as “drama queens” for having an opionion, you are much better off without any man who would stereotype you as such. Consider how you would be treated by a man of any color in a relationship who already holds a negative opionion of you and consider yourself lucky that he won’t have the opportunity to treat you less than you deserve because he found happiness with a white woman. To the white women dating black men for reasons less than love, make sure you aren’t just a trophy piece and that he’s willing to take you out in the day time and that his primary interest aren’t certain sexual acts rumored to be a fav among white women. To the black men shallow enough to believe all black women are full of drama, loud, female dogs…consider what sort of treatment made them that way and remember that for every action there’s an equal and oposite reaction. To the white men who see your women turning to black men, know and believe that there are a number of beautiful, supportive, loyal, drama-free black ladies waiting to make you feel like the man you are.

By Pago Pago

July 30, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

Whay blame an afro man for wanting to up-grade his life by dating a white woman!

By Charlie

July 30, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

Brandy: No you should not have to wait until you are “old and gray” to settle down with someone. I’ll be 26 next month and marriage certainly is not on my mind. I have mixed feelings about people our age (me & you) or younger getting married. I also question the reasoning behind girls in their early 20s who ALREADY have two toddlers at home. Marriage is not something I care to rush into. Love today isn’t comparable to trading juice boxes in high school with somebody you like. And the perceived gold digger mentality isn’t just reserved for women. Although they may be more likely to ask men the following question when they first meet, “So what type of work do you do?” Uh-huh, trying to “estimate” my financial status already.

By Blue_Kolla

July 30, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Last American she has gained weight because her husband does not like thin women.Her behind (she refers to that as her tail) looks like a black women butt - what’s up with her?

Sounds to me that nothing is up with her; she’s taking steps to please her husband - one of the cornerstones of any prosperous marriage. Take notes.

By Ted Lee

July 30, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

If this question/movie was reversed and phrased as “Why do white women date black men”, it would be heralded as racist.

Really though, does it really matter? I thought we were supposed to look past skin color and look at each person as an individual?

Dr. King is rolling in his grave.

By steve-o

July 30, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

Reading this blog has led me to believe that there are too many fuucking idiots in this world!

I’m a black male and I’m in a serious relationship with a white female—not because she’s “white”, but because I was attracted to her and found myself developing strong feelings for her. It’s simple sexual attraction. And for you dipsh!ts out there who think that only “white trash” women date black men, she is in graduate school and I already have my masters degree, so kiss my miscegenating a**!!!

I’ve dated black women, white women, Asian women, and Latina women. I’ve dated women from Europe, Africa, and South America. Hell, an ex-girlfriend of mine who is black is now married to a white guy. What the hell is the big deal?

Sure there are little cultural differences that are interesting and make things exciting and intriguing. But overall, ALL WOMEN ARE THE SAME!!! THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN LITTLE QUIRKS REGARDLESS OF CULTURE!!!

Seriously, this whole interracial dating argument is so 1954. I mean would a black American male have more in common with a white American female or a black female from Cameroon? Would a white American male have more in common with an Asian American female or a white female from Moldova?

My God, we have a long way to go.

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

@Debbiedoright: Thank you. Those paragraphs were not related. The first one affected men.

The second one affected women. Neither stated that MSM was the highest risk that women can contract AIDS from as you said they were before.

By AP

July 30, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

Steve-o - thanks for your comments! Nothing makes me more angry than when people generalize about the education level of people who choose to date outside of their race.

By G-Smoove

July 30, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Just lisening to people get angry about this topic makes me sick!! Why is it that every time a dialog is opened about a so called “taboo” situation, it is met with such ignorance and anger! First I would like to say that where there is smoke there is fire!! Sisters get mad at black men for dating white women but do nothing to change the way that they are viewed in this country. Have you ever noticed that when a white woman on t.v. is portrayed as havingan attitude there is a striking resemblance to our sisters? I know that this is not how all black women act but we allow the idea to be perpetuated in front of millions of people and don’t have anything to say about that! But if a brother simply asks the question, “Why do black men date white women?”, and then provides a forum for that question to answered he has to endure ridicule and jeering from his own people! (both men and women) It is not an irrelevant question because someone wanted to know the answer!!! And for the sisters out ther who got angry about some of the comments please take a closer look at what is really being said. The comment about a white woman making a sandwich for her black man after sex or giving him a massage is about one thing, the feeling of appreciation! It ain’t about self hate or wanting to be white. Take it from a brother who has asked his brothers the same question, it is truly about what brothers preceive to be as someone who appreciates them. I had to ask the question because I have never dated outside of my race. I am in a felationship with a Beutiful Black woman and I don’t need anything else!!!! But I think that instead iof getting angry and attacking we should actually look and try to answer the question “Why do Black men date white women.” There is no concrete answer because different people like different things. The point is that if you explore the question you may learn something!!!

By I Just Love Women!!!

July 30, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

I will attempt to actually answer the question, at least from my own perspective.

Let me start with a background on me. I am a Black Male in his early thirties. I have dated women of black, white, mixed, spanish, middle eastern, asian, and polynesian decent. I do NOT have a preference, but I find lighter black women and darker caucasian women to be more aesthetically pleasing. So I do not like the Barbie look. I am a military brat and was raised in several different countries and throughout the US but went to High School and College in the South. I have a BS and a Masters.

I was never taught to only date women in myrace, but when I grew up I would only think about black women as suitable partners even though I was always surrounded by a plethora of other races (mainly white). At the ripe age of 17 while in high school at a mostly white suburban school a white male friend of mine told me that a white female friend of his wanted to go out with me. I politely said thanks, but noted to him that she was “white” and I was black. He shrugged and said, “Man, no one cares”. Mind you I had always thought women of other races were attractive but the thought just never crossed my mind about dating them. I hesitantly decided I would approach the girl and just take it from there. Well, to my surprise most of our peers did not have a problem with us seeing each other. There weren’t any nasty looks, bad remarks, etc from anyone, NOT even the black girls (whom most I had dated already). The problem came from my mother, her mother, my grandparents, etc. (the older generations). Once I figured out that my peers didnt care it was like the flood gates had been opened. I begin to see that I had access 10 times as many women as I had previously. Imagine being around beef, chicken, fruit, vegetables, and fish your whole life, but you were only allowed to eat the beef. Well once you are told that you can eat everything, you certainly try!!! My attraction to women of other races and the fact that I date them has nothing to do with black women whatsoever. Well, maybe it does. My mother moved out to the suburbs and worked her ass off so I could get a good education and play sports at a school known for getting kids scholarships. I graduated with about 400 kids and only 50 of us were black. Basically I am a product of my environment. I ended up dating white women because they were accessible to me, not because black women did something to me or because they act a certain way. Any heterosexual male that is surrounded by willing and able vivrant women no matter what their race is will eventually be with them. With all this being said, I continued to date women of all races including black women. As for the generalization of black or white women, its stupid. And for any Black male to use Black women as the reason he dates outside his race is a weak man. It’s an excuse, not a reason! Women of all races are gold diggers, have drama, are freaks, are educated, and will DO ANYTHING for the man that treats them right!

By G-Smoove

July 30, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

Just lisening to people get angry about this topic makes me sick!! Why is it that every time a dialog is opened about a so called “taboo” situation, it is met with such ignorance and anger! First I would like to say that where there is smoke there is fire!! Sisters get mad at black men for dating white women but do nothing to change the way that they are viewed in this country. Have you ever noticed that when a white woman on t.v. is portrayed as havingan attitude there is a striking resemblance to our sisters? I know that this is not how all black women act but we allow the idea to be perpetuated in front of millions of people and don’t have anything to say about that! But if a brother simply asks the question, “Why do black men date white women?”, and then provides a forum for that question to answered he has to endure ridicule and jeering from his own people! (both men and women) It is not an irrelevant question because someone wanted to know the answer!!! And for the sisters out ther who got angry about some of the comments please take a closer look at what is really being said. The comment about a white woman making a sandwich for her black man after sex or giving him a massage is about one thing, the feeling of appreciation! It ain’t about self hate or wanting to be white. Take it from a brother who has asked his brothers the same question, it is truly about what brothers preceive to be as someone who appreciates them. I had to ask the question because I have never dated outside of my race. I am in a felationship with a Beutiful Black woman and I don’t need anything else!!!! But I think that instead iof getting angry and attacking we should actually look and try to answer the question “Why do Black men date white women.” There is no concrete answer because different people like different things. The point is that if you explore the question you may learn something!!!

By DebbieDoRight

July 30, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

thatguy: I hate to say it, but I think you’re not bright enough to understand simple, relevant facts and statistics. That being the case, I will save my breath and bid you a good afternoon.

By Leah

July 30, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

Ok everyone…lets go over what we’ve learned so far. Black men only date white women because they might make a sandwich for them after sex, because they’re looked at as a trophy, for financial benefits or, my personal favorite, because we do sexual acts rumored to be the favorite among white women.

ARE you f*ing kidding me? That’s the only conclusion black women can make as to why a black man would date a white woman. If this is the case, there is so much more ignorance in the world than I ever conceived.

Why, when it comes to men, do women automatically attack each other? So when it comes to black men, the automatic thing to do is to blame the other woman, which in this case would be a white woman.

Can’t you see that, most of the time, people date each other because they like other, not because they’re thinking about you or what might offend you because of the color of your skin.

And to think that everyone speaking the truth to you today on this blog (not that every thing written has been true) is trying to put down the black woman, yet again, you are sorely mistaken. Maybe you should think more about self-reflection instead of wanting to blame the world for everything. That’s the mentality of a child. The mentality of an adult would look something like…what is my part in this, what judgments am I making about other people, how can I bring positive energy to the world around me, etc. Once all of the angry women on this blog have a chance to do that, then maybe we can have an educated, unbiased, non-judgmental discussion about interracial dating. Until then, I’m sick of the blame game.

By Mr P

July 30, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

Could it be as simple as man meets woman and they hit it off. Hmmmmmmmm

By Rob

July 30, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

This is another example of how the AJC loves to “race bait”. I guess you are banned from printing Mike Vick blogs so you resort to this mess. This paper employs undercover klansmen.

By DebbieDoRight

July 30, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

Leah: Black men only date white women because they might make a sandwich for them after sex, because they’re looked at as a trophy, for financial benefits or, my personal favorite, because we do sexual acts rumored to be the favorite among white women.

Those comments were mostly made by the Black Men on this blog. Not the black woman — please make sure to give “credit” where credit is due.

By Not all Black or White Women are the same

July 30, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

This comment is for By I work them. I truly do not understand how you can categorize all black women since you work with a few. That would be the same as saying all white women are afraid of their shadows and will let a black man or any man run over them and they do not speak up for themselves or they all smell like dogs when they are wet.

I have some very close white friends and black friends and they are all have the same issues as women (can’t get a date, child care issues, no child support from ex or baby daddy, financial issues, etc.)

I do think that black men who tend to only date white women because they are white have some type of self hate about them. Until you really know and love yourself, how can you love someone else.

By TheBottomLiner

July 30, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

I am a black man who was married to a white woman (past tense) for 15 years. There were no kids until 3 years after we were married. I wasnt forced into it, but I didnt think of all the ramifications of that relationship either. In my expierence, a black man who dates and or marries a white woman gives up a great deal of himself, his culture an his religious soul. It’s not to say that this is every instance, but it was certainly mine! Not every white woman is a w** or trailor trash as some have potrayed in earlier postings. But, not every Black woman is a money grabbing, social climbing witch, like some earlier post have suggested either. In fact in my expierence in Atlanta since my divorce, I have found quite the opposite. The Black women in Atlanta I have met have been, self sufficient, intriguing, beautiful in mind, body and spirit. To you brothers who want to date white girls I say this; GOD bless you and good luck. As for me, send me ALL the beautiful, intelligent, self sufficient, sexy BLACK sisters! It’s like my father told me and I didnt listen at the time, but I hear him now: There is no greater love, than the love of a good BLACK woman!

By Lisa

July 30, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

WOW!!! The junk that comes from the mouth of people is very foul. You love who you love and date who you want to date. Does it matter if they are black, white, latino, asian, or alien. For black men who put down their own race to justify their reason for dating a white woman is just as ignorant as a racist. And for those who said all black women want is for a man to take care of them. That comment contradicts the statement that black women are too independent. So which is it. It’s stupidty commenting. Get over it and find other topics to dicuss and film to makes. This is old.

By kchaz

July 30, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

Let me start out by saying first and foremost that that my

comments are based solely on my own personal

experiences. Now my points.

1st - I grew up in a prodominantly white neighborhood

and never really got my “rap” or my thug personna down.

So when I approached an young woman, I always seemed

“too white” for them. I always wore the wrong clothes or

spoke too proper for them to the point where I was told

that I wasn’t gangsta enough for them. These were the

same women that would give my date and I the evil stares

when I dated outside my race.

2nd - I have dated equal numbers within my race and

outside. Only black women have told men that I didn’t make enough money to date them I wasn’t fashionable enough to date them My “rap” was too weak to even holla at them I wasn’t gangsta enough for them I’m not a real black man because I speak properly And only black women have ever cheated on me

3rd - With all this I married and am still married to a wonderful Black American woman. But I would not do it again. Of all the women I have dated, Black American women (I have also dated Black West Indian women) seem to carry the most baggage and have the most drama associated with them and in my limited experience tend to be the most demanding.

Ladies, I am not trying to blame you but there are some realities that must be faced. As black men, we are faced with a multitude of challenges every day. We have to perform above and beyond our white counterparts to recieve the slightest recognition for our work and yet still we are often passed over for promotion. We have to face poor service in restaurants, and discrimination in trying to find housing for ourself and our families and then we are pulled over by the police at a higher percentage all because we are black men. After all these challenges we face on a daily basis, the last thing we want is to face challenges in our relationships and in our homes. So for all the women who have stated that a brother has to step up to the plate and come correct in order to be with them or have implied that a man has to be somehow super human to be with them and they are weak cowards to date outside their race, perhaps try and tone down the rhetoric.

On the othe side, dating outside your race may seem the less resistant path to some brothers out there but it is not. It was actually more difficult for me beacuse there were cultural differences, differences in life experience and I always felt I had to be on guard all the time because some idiot might want to hurt either my date or myself because our skin color was different.

In the end its all about biology not race. Men are men and women are women. Both come in good and bad varieties we all use each other to some extent and we all settle for the path of least resistance.

By JP

July 30, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

I wish black men would stop bashing black women. It really just needs to stop.

Please remember that when black men were slaving in the fields and toiling under Jim Crow. Who was by their side??? Black women.

Please don’t ever forget that. Unfortunately we live in a country that is ruled by one race. For these black men that are here spewing hatred about black women you are no better than a member of the KKK.

As a matter of fact, you are even less because as a man you are supposed to protect a woman not throw her under a bus. Although I’m cool with IR dating, it is unecessary to bash your mothers, sisters, aunts, and daughters to uplift another.

And personally if I were a white woman I wouldn’t want to date a black man who only wants me because he has some score to settle with black women. That is not what love is about at all. I actually pity a woman who ends up with a man like that more than anything.

By Lisa

July 30, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

WOW!!! The junk that comes from the mouth of people is very foul. You love who you love and date who you want to date. Does it matter if they are black, white, latino, asian, or alien. For black men who put down their own race to justify their reason for dating a white woman is just as ignorant as a racist. Why do you justify the reason is it because you are unsure and you want validation from others? And for those who said all black women want is for a man to take care of them. That comment contradicts the statement that black women are too independent. So which is it. It’s stupidty commenting. Get over it and find other topics to dicuss and film to makes. This is old.

By Rickster

July 30, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

I have only 1 question: “Which heaven will Black men and women go to and which heaven will White men and women go to? If God makes no distinction between black and white, rich or poor, big or small(and even those that smell goods vs those that don’t, why should we. If you want to go to heaven one day, keep your mind on the things that are like God’s mind. Live peaceably with all men and women. Love the one that makes your stomach feel like the butterflies are have a party down there! Love him or her like God loves you. Enough to give your life for him or her. Treat him or her with the love and respect that is due to God himself. After all, he’s the one who blessed you and allowed him or her to come into your life in the first place. Spoil her/him rotten. Give ‘til it makes the two of you realize that neither of you has time to take anything from the other. Because if he’s giving and she’s giving, no taking is necessary by anybody!!! Love the hell out of each other!!! If you do this, you will soon realize that there is no such thing as black love or white love. Only God’s LOVE. If you do this you will experience the only true love that exists in this world today: The love that God has for each of us that has been spread to our lover. Even my true love. The apple of my eye. The joy of my hearts desires. The object of my affection. The only one I love; ‘till I die!!! My Lover sent by God; Just for me! That kind of love is neither black nor white!!!!

Just a comment.

By Xquizzyt1

July 30, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

This was the single-most inconsequential article I’ve read. The very fact that the author himself calls it a “a cultural reality that while not exactly prominent, certainly does exist…” negates the whole purpose for the question. If it’s not prominent, then who cares and why should it say anything about who we are as a people? Should EVERY black man in the world date a black woman?

Black men dating white women is no more a mystery than white men dating black women, Latino men dating Asian women, or whatever other racial concoction you can come up with. There are as many distinct answers as there are diverse couples. The real question is, hasn’t this issue been visited enough? I know I’m one black woman - who dates black men - who’s tired of it.

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

@Debie: I have taken Business Statistics and Statistics. You cannot pull wool over people’s eyes. Both paragraphs you cited were only on the same page.

One was saying that HIV affected men who had sex with men the most.

Another said MSM and drug users were risk factors.

Neither said MSM was the highest risk factor like you stated before.

By JoJo

July 30, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

Leah,

Are you saying that the black women reading these posts (and mind you, many of the posts are downright ignorant & nasty) should just except the stereotypes and not defend themselves? Just like you don’t want to be described in a negative way, neither do they. Especially when she knows that she doesn’t fit the descriptions. But just by virtue of being a black female, it’s ASSUMED that she is angry, bitter, and money-hungry. It’s truly sad. If you want a non-judgmental discussion…it takes people on all sides…not just one.

By Fred

July 30, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

Two things happen when a blackman gets a lot of money (Tiger Woods & Seal (british singer)for example,they get a fancy car & then a white women to show off, it doesn’t matter, the rich ones get the beautiful ones and the rest get castoffs that whitemen wouldn’t touch.

By The BottomLiner

July 30, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

I am a black man who was married to a white woman (past tense) for 15 years. There were no kids until 3 years after we were married. I wasnt forced into it, but I didnt think of all the ramifications of that relationship either. In my expierence, a black man who dates and or marries a white woman gives up a great deal of himself, his culture an his religious soul. It’s not to say that this is every instance, but it was certainly mine! Not every white woman is a w** or trailor trash as some have potrayed in earlier postings. But, not every Black woman is a money grabbing, social climbing witch, like some earlier post have suggested either. In fact in my expierence in Atlanta since my divorce, I have found quite the opposite. The Black women in Atlanta I have met have been, self sufficient, intriguing, beautiful in mind, body and spirit. To you brothers who want to date white girls I say this; GOD bless you and good luck. As for me, send me ALL the beautiful, intelligent, self sufficient, sexy BLACK sisters! It’s like my father told me and I didnt listen at the time, but I hear him now: There is no greater love, than the love of a good BLACK woman!

By ross

July 30, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

It has nothing to do with skin color. A fine white girl is the same as a fine black girl, usually they are much harder to pull, unless you are a celebrity, but the bottom line is the booty.

By Sandwich King

July 30, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

I am a proud Asian male. Once, I dated a white woman. I don’t want to brag, but she made me many, many sandwiches.

By Sobe

July 30, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

To the person who keeps asking about Al and Jesse. The answer is simple. Al and Jesse only get involved when it’s a black victim because of money. The perpetuate the “victim syndrome” to black community, to the black communities detriment, in order to capitalize on it when a black person is victimized. They couldn’t give a s** about the black race and are in fact it’s biggest enemy. It’s $$$$$$

By John Locke

July 30, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

SEX

By Mike T

July 30, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

White women make the best sandwiches. And they cut the bread even too.

By Marcus

July 30, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

It is a tragedy of the highest proportion to see a Black man (Sampson) in the lap of a white woman. It is the ultimate symbol of him being mentally castrated. The above statement is not with a spirit of malice only with an unconditional for a suffering and pleading Black woman. Peace.

By Marcus

July 30, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

It is a tragedy of the highest proportion to see a Black man (Sampson) in the lap of a white woman. It is the ultimate symbol of him being mentally castrated. The above statement is not with a spirit of malice only with an unconditional love for a suffering and pleading Black woman. Peace.

By Merry McCambry

July 30, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Why is everything still addressed in our country as “black and white”? I don’t believe it is anyone’s business whom someone dates. The mere fact that the question is even being asked is totally ridiculous! The only type of anything that really should matter is our blood type; it really does have to match in order to work; that is the divine order of things! Other than that, please, get over it!

By The Conscious One

July 30, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Bottom line sisters and brothers, of all races I should say:

BLACKWOMEN…. y’all got issues. BLACKMEN, you were raised by women with issues… If the root is bad, the fruit is bad.. This isn’t intentional, nor desired, but for alot of us/not all, we are in a state of denial.. The issues start with black women and their insecurities as forced upon them by the “powers that was” and and are still the powers that be!

It started back in the kidnapping/slavery days.. you were bred to hate and loose respect of us.. 175 years man? NO! It still goes on.. Self responsibility? YES, yet if you dont recognize the self hate, the subliminal and obvious racial miseducation of the “negroe” by certain caucasians, then we are all lost as humans. No one wins the race in racism!!! Y’all too busy competing w/ each other for men (though u say its for yourself) that you wind up looking stupid. All that Ra Ra y’all exhibit is degrading, and no man wants a blaaaaaber mouth.

You want to be a QUEEN…respect the kings.

WOMEN raise the babies… if the babies screw up, it’s the MOTHER’S fault. PERIOD. Stop hating on those who love the blackman as the owner, the maker, the cream of the planet earth, father of civilization, GOD of the universe… The whole world loves us in Ancient Egypt, and elsewhere, but not the black woman… Like we owe y’all something!!

Again, WOMEN raise us black males…. when will the cycle stop, where you start raising babies right, with KNOWLEDGE of self and kind??? Most sisters gladly accept the title “African-American” but don’t even know jack about being African, let alone how an African women treats their man: WITH RESPECT. We have enough racism to deal with, then having to deal with gold digging, selfishness, egotistical big mouths, and laziness.

Sorry sisters, but YOU are the problem, AND the solution! Think about what I’ve said… only the ignorant will deny my facts. I love my mother. I love my sisters, but when a brother with knowledge of self engages a sister, we too get the boot, or the ass for a buck or two…and a pipe dream (no pun intended.)

White women, yeah, in my high school years I dated them, they never gave me a problem, but I realized that BEFORE we brothers accept another race, we OWE it to help FIX the damages of racism/kidnapping/slavery and help fallen humanity….THE WOMAN. The original MitoChondrial DNA carrier… Our queen…..

Fix the women…and the men are fixed.

Furthermore, y’all always calling each other “bitches” just as much or more than some men call y’all that word (i hear it at my job all the time, and on the streets… as ignorant as as uscalling each other n****.) I am a man of color, a “black” man, and I too am disappointed at the stock of women in Georgia.

Sisters, by all means: LEAVE THE DEAD BEAT ASS MEN…the ones who do NOTHING.. but dont betray and slander all brothers, cause YOU are the root of the tree. YOU are mother africa in america, but you dont reflect anything from Africa: Names, dress, culture, religion, etc etc etc etc …

Go to Africa… SEE for yourself.. EVERY race, and subculture has women that respects their man…. but African-American women dont… not all, of course, but a whoooole lot.

PEACE.

By Erik Gordon

July 30, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Hello I am the director of the movie and I am truly honored by the fact that so many people would respond to this blog. The movie was used to generate discussion between the sexes and the races. If you want to see it for your self please go to www.whyblackdatewhite.com that is the official site for the film. Thank you so much and I hope you enjoy. You can even checkout my myspace page at www.myspace.com/eriktv

Peace and love Erik S. Gordon

By DD

July 30, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

People are attracted to each other for many reasons. Skin color is really not a major factor. In fact, if my wife had blue skin I’d still be attracted to her! This is a really silly topic. What about common interests, values, likes and dislikes,compatible personalities?

By The Conscious One

July 30, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

Bottom line sisters and brothers, of all races I should say:

BLACKWOMEN…. y’all got issues. BLACKMEN, you were raised by women with issues… If the root is bad, the fruit is bad.. This isn’t intentional, nor desired, but for alot of us/not all, we are in a state of denial.. The issues start with black women and their insecurities as forced upon them by the “powers that was” and and are still the powers that be!

It started back in the kidnapping/slavery days.. you were bred to hate and loose respect of us.. 175 years man? NO! It still goes on.. Self responsibility? YES, yet if you dont recognize the self hate, the subliminal and obvious racial miseducation of the “negroe” by certain caucasians, then we are all lost as humans. No one wins the race in racism!!! Y’all too busy competing w/ each other for men (though u say its for yourself) that you wind up looking stupid. All that Ra Ra y’all exhibit is degrading, and no man wants a blaaaaaber mouth.

You want to be a QUEEN…respect the kings.

WOMEN raise the babies… if the babies screw up, it’s the MOTHER’S fault. PERIOD. Stop hating on those who love the blackman as the owner, the maker, the cream of the planet earth, father of civilization, GOD of the universe… The whole world loves us in Ancient Egypt, and elsewhere, but not the black woman… Like we owe y’all something!!

Again, WOMEN raise us black males…. when will the cycle stop, where you start raising babies right, with KNOWLEDGE of self and kind??? Most sisters gladly accept the title “African-American” but don’t even know jack about being African, let alone how an African women treats their man: WITH RESPECT. We have enough racism to deal with, then having to deal with gold digging, selfishness, egotistical big mouths, and laziness.

Sorry sisters, but YOU are the problem, AND the solution! Think about what I’ve said… only the ignorant will deny my facts. I love my mother. I love my sisters, but when a brother with knowledge of self engages a sister, we too get the boot, or the ass for a buck or two…and a pipe dream (no pun intended.)

White women, yeah, in my high school years I dated them, they never gave me a problem, but I realized that BEFORE we brothers accept another race, we OWE it to help FIX the damages of racism/kidnapping/slavery and help fallen humanity….THE WOMAN. The original MitoChondrial DNA carrier… Our queen…..

Fix the women…and the men are fixed.

Furthermore, y’all always calling each other “bitches” just as much or more than some men call y’all that word (i hear it at my job all the time, and on the streets… as ignorant as as uscalling each other n****.) I am a man of color, a “black” man, and I too am disappointed at the stock of women in Georgia.

Sisters, by all means: LEAVE THE DEAD BEAT ASS MEN…the ones who do NOTHING.. but dont betray and slander all brothers, cause YOU are the root of the tree. YOU are mother africa in america, but you dont reflect anything from Africa: Names, dress, culture, religion, etc etc etc etc …

Go to Africa… SEE for yourself.. EVERY race, and subculture has women that respects their man…. but African-American women dont… not all, of course, but a whoooole lot.

PEACE.

By The Conscious One

July 30, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

Bottom line sisters and brothers, of all races I should say:

BLACKWOMEN…. y’all got issues. BLACKMEN, you were raised by women with issues… If the root is bad, the fruit is bad.. This isn’t intentional, nor desired, but for alot of us/not all, we are in a state of denial.. The issues start with black women and their insecurities as forced upon them by the “powers that was” and and are still the powers that be!

It started back in the kidnapping/slavery days.. you were bred to hate and loose respect of us.. 175 years man? NO! It still goes on.. Self responsibility? YES, yet if you dont recognize the self hate, the subliminal and obvious racial miseducation of the “negroe” by certain caucasians, then we are all lost as humans. No one wins the race in racism!!! Y’all too busy competing w/ each other for men (though u say its for yourself) that you wind up looking stupid. All that Ra Ra y’all exhibit is degrading, and no man wants a blaaaaaber mouth.

You want to be a QUEEN…respect the kings.

WOMEN raise the babies… if the babies screw up, it’s the MOTHER’S fault. PERIOD. Stop hating on those who love the blackman as the owner, the maker, the cream of the planet earth, father of civilization, GOD of the universe… The whole world loves us in Ancient Egypt, and elsewhere, but not the black woman… Like we owe y’all something!!

Again, WOMEN raise us black males…. when will the cycle stop, where you start raising babies right, with KNOWLEDGE of self and kind??? Most sisters gladly accept the title “African-American” but don’t even know jack about being African, let alone how an African women treats their man: WITH RESPECT. We have enough racism to deal with, then having to deal with gold digging, selfishness, egotistical big mouths, and laziness.

Sorry sisters, but YOU are the problem, AND the solution! Think about what I’ve said… only the ignorant will deny my facts. I love my mother. I love my sisters, but when a brother with knowledge of self engages a sister, we too get the boot, or the ass for a buck or two…and a pipe dream (no pun intended.)

White women, yeah, in my high school years I dated them, they never gave me a problem, but I realized that BEFORE we brothers accept another race, we OWE it to help FIX the damages of racism/kidnapping/slavery and help fallen humanity….THE WOMAN. The original MitoChondrial DNA carrier… Our queen…..

Fix the women…and the men are fixed.

Furthermore, y’all always calling each other “bitches” just as much or more than some men call y’all that word (i hear it at my job all the time, and on the streets… as ignorant as as uscalling each other n****.) I am a man of color, a “black” man, and I too am disappointed at the stock of women in Georgia.

Sisters, by all means: LEAVE THE DEAD BEAT ASS MEN…the ones who do NOTHING.. but dont betray and slander all brothers, cause YOU are the root of the tree. YOU are mother africa in america, but you dont reflect anything from Africa: Names, dress, culture, religion, etc etc etc etc …

Go to Africa… SEE for yourself.. EVERY race, and subculture has women that respects their man…. but African-American women dont… not all, of course, but a whoooole lot.

PEACE.

By Hero maker

July 30, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

@Marcus: At least Sampson got a sandwich.

By Merry McCambry

July 30, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Why is everything still addressed in our country as “black and white”? I don’t believe it is anyone’s business whom someone dates. The mere fact that the question is even being asked is totally ridiculous! The only type of anything that really should matter is our blood type; it really does have to match in order to work; that is the divine order of things! Other than that, please, get over it!

By Xquizzyt1

July 30, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Black women!!! Don’t you wonder why every article has us opining about the Clarence Thomases and Wesley Snipes’ of the world when we had/have examples like:

Ossie Davis (dec.) Denzel Washington Isaiah Washington Morgan Freeman Samuel Jackson Will Smith Bill Cosby Barack Obama Colin Powell LL Cool J

And the list continues. This topic is simply a measure to make us feel inadequate and unappreciated, when the author himself states that it is not a prominent cultural reality - well then, why even examine it? Black women, there are plenty of WORTHY black men out there looking for a black queen. Don’t feed into this trash…

By The BottomLiner

July 30, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

I will make it simple for all you brothers that dont want to date or dont have good thoughts about our BLACK sisters. Don’t date them! Leave them all to brothers like me! You can have all those white girls you think are better. That’s cool, no hard feelings on my part. Just give me all the beautiful, intelligent, sexy BLACK sisters this town has to offer! I am FSO (FOR SISTERS ONLY!)

By Erik Gordon

July 30, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Hello I am the director of the movie and I am truly honored by the fact that so many people would respond to this blog. The movie was used to generate discussion between the sexes and the races. If you want to see it for your self please go to www.whyblackdatewhite.com that is the official site for the film. Thank you so much and I hope you enjoy. You can even checkout my myspace page at www.myspace.com/eriktv

Peace and love Erik S. Gordon

By Jeezy Chreezy

July 30, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

What really gets me about this discussion is that it turned into a way for both white women and black women to be turned into half-people. What this tells me is that no matter what your color, if you are female you are not considered fully human.

Way to go!

— A woman who takes care of herself and hopes that in 100 years this whole conversation will be moot… because we’ll all be mixed together.

By Erik Gordon

July 30, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Hello I am the director of the movie and I am truly honored by the fact that so many people would respond to this blog. The movie was used to generate discussion between the sexes and the races. If you want to see it for your self please go to www.whyblackdatewhite.com that is the official site for the film. Thank you so much and I hope you enjoy. You can even checkout my myspace page at www.myspace.com/eriktv

Peace and love Erik S. Gordon

By Fred

July 30, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

FOR allerickb:If only your statement (“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”)was TRUE. MLK didn’t write that speech.He gave it but it wasn’t his.

Keith Miller, in his book “Voice of Deliverance: the language of Martin Luther King and its sources” noticed the strong similiarities between the conclusion of King’s famous “I have a Dream” speech and a speech given by Archibald Carey at the Republican National Convention in 1952. Carey was a correspondant of King’s.

By Given

July 30, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

@The bottom liner:So, they aren’t dating you either, huh?

By DebbieDoRight

July 30, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

to thatguy: Whatever.

By RRB

July 30, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

I am a black women and in some ways I agree totally with the black man for dating white women. I have read most of the comments that have been posted and we are dogging black men out for their choice. Not all white women are white trash or s**. I know some black women that are trash and s**. All I hear from black women is I want, give me, buy me, and mine. Even the attitudes of some of these black women make you want to kick their…. Come black women if we want a black man or any man to love us, STOP THE MADNESS!!! To all the black men, yes a white women may make you a sandwich after sex, but I know a lot of black women that will make you a full course meal after sex. Black men and black women need to stop and grow up. If white women make you happy that’s fine, but do not dog out black women, because not all of them are the same. If that’s the case we can say that all black men are sorry, because most of them are in jail, do not pay child support, or do not work. To the white women that’s dating a black men I have some advise. When you see someone one hating on you and your man give him a nasty, deep throat kiss right in front of the HATERS!!!!

By dgirl

July 30, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

i am a black woman and I am very happy with my black man. No white woman could ever replace me!

By Brent

July 30, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

First off, I’m a black male married to a white woman. The reason: She’s Ivy league educated, very smart, works out, very open minded, travels, makes a good living in the design industry. Just a real cool person. If I would have found a sister with the same qualifacations I would have loved to marry her but, I seriously doubt she would have married me. Those really cool sista’s like hat are spotted right out of high school and are never single to. Brothers there are cool sista’s like I described of my white wife, but their off the market so quick, no one ever gets a chance to holla at them. The ones that are are still on the market are….what’s the word angry. I was kickin it, with this sista friend of mind and at first she was real cool, traveled, educated owned her own home the whole nine. And then after talking to her for a while, she showed her cards. She started talking about, this dude bought her this and I want this from this dude and then I understood why she was single at 45 years old. Sista’s work with these young brothers, go on some trips, help that man, get trade or skill, buy a home with that man. And don’t talk down to him

By Fred

July 30, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

FOR allerickb:If only your statement (“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”)was TRUE. MLK didn’t write that speech.He gave it but it wasn’t his.

Keith Miller, in his book “Voice of Deliverance: the language of Martin Luther King and its sources” noticed the strong similiarities between the conclusion of King’s famous “I have a Dream” speech and a speech given by Archibald Carey at the Republican National Convention in 1952. Carey was a correspondant of King’s.

By dgirl

July 30, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

I am a black man very much in love with my black queen. It has been a struggle but I had to get my woman to understand that I will never leave her and will always be there for her and the children. Our black woman need some comfort and hope. We as the black man need to provide it. Case Close….

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

@brent: Yeah, that too.

Too bad there are those that still say people marry too young and caution people against it. Helps explain the 40% marriage rate Black Women have.

WTF is with that?

I have a few asian friends, and most of them are married before college. And by choice.

By Angela

July 30, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

I love to read the ignorant and racist things people say under the anonymity of the internet.

@The Film maker - If your mission was to create divide in the already weak black family, congratulations! The discussions that you’ve created with this film have NOT been positive. I’ve seen the film, Which by the way people its more like a comedy! The situations are over the top and UN REAL!

Quite frankly the question WHY DO BLACK MEN DATE BLACK WOMEN was never answered OR adequately discussed.

By Lone ranger

July 30, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

I think a White woman made me a sandwich once. It was quite tasty.

By It is a shame

July 30, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

This comment is for Terrell in the Atl.

Wow! you truly have an issue with Black Women. I am assuming that you are not black, because if you are, how can you say those things about the single mother that raised you alone, because it is obvious that you did not have a positive black male role model in your life.

By Mad man

July 30, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

@Angela: Be quiet and learn to make a good sandwich.

By mel

July 30, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

The Conscious One:

Are white women to blame for all the serial killers, pedophiles, bombers, white collar theives, warmongers, KKK members, and meth-heads?

By NBA star

July 30, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

I once dated a Sandwich maker. She made good sandwiches. Shew as white.

I married Black, but I will always remember that sandwich.

By The BottomLiner

July 30, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

To Given: As a Professional Black man, I can tell you from past and recent (last night) experience that the BLACK women I date (exclusively) and have dated in this town are some of the finest women I have ever met. While guys like you want to chase after white women. That’s your preference. Good luck to you! MY preference is a strong, independent, articulate, sexy, sophisticated BLACK WOMAN. So while you and guys like you have been chasing “snow bunnies” brothers like me have been fortunate enough to meet and continue to meet these incredible BLACK women. So keep doing what you do brother. You just make the selection process and availability for more incredible BLACK women for brothers like me to meet and get to know greater. And I can tell you from experience, there are ALOT of those beautiful BLACK women in the Atlanta Metro. But I thank you for not looking there way! It keeps my social schedule going and going and going…

By D

July 30, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

Do you believe it’s possible for a person to be TRULY HAPPY and live a fulfilled life? If so, what would that look like for YOU? Can you quantify it?

If not, does it make sense to spend precious time judging someone else, all the while not even having a clear vision of what YOUR OWN happiness entails?

If you DO have a clear vision and you allow yourself to be distracted by things that only retard your growth, is your vision clear enough?

We all deserve clarity and peace of mind. We can agree on that.

By plopez

July 30, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

I think we should stop. This has really gone to far. I am a Puerto Rican and Black young lady I am 23 years old. I think that it is sad that we cannot look past race in 2007. When I see a white woman with a black man I dont get upset I am just glad that they both have someone to love. Its not about a sandwich because anyone can do that. I have white, Persian, black, you name it friends. My boyfriend even dated white woman for most of his life. Because he grew up in a predominately white neighborhood and because he skateboards. I have even dated white guys.Its like when you want to get upset you cant it is his past. For us to become one we have to stop this non sense!!!!!!! Please for my daughter when she starts dating.It won’t be about race it will be about who treats her right.

By brent

July 30, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

It’s not a hopeless discussion, it a good one. You just have to not get all emotional about it. It’s just a single person’s opinion. That’s it. Like i said before there are tons of cool sista’s out there, and some are connecting with cool young brothers. But all of these (it seems) thirty something sorta mean ladies that are on this blog are not representive of that demographic. People have to understand that some are at a hugher level on the food chain ie; more traveled live in more multiculural areas, lived abroad, had white friends growing up, all sorts of circumstances. That’s what makes people choos white, asian, latin or black women, just each person life experiences. Some Men and women just don’t feel like they have to live in another persons box ie; you HAVE to marry a black woman because your a black male, that’s not to bright. Each person on this earth has FREE WILL. Taken from the words of the great orator humpty hump aka shock G ” Do what cha like”

By Sobe

July 30, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Bottomliner, what’s with the caps? It’s annoying, stop it.

By MM

July 30, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

I am engaged to a beautiful black woman, however she is not the typical black woman you come across. She is laid back, very practical, nice, and kind-hearted. She gets frustrated b/c most black women are rude in general, even when she compliments them. Not all black are like this, but majority are angry, needy, and materialistic. Fellas keep looking there are some good black women out there.

By That Guy

July 30, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

I need a sandwich.

By Get Along

July 30, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

**Finally, the truth” It’s simple. Black men go for white women because white women still fall for their act. You now see tired young white women dragging their bi-racial children around by themselves. Ask one of them how the bi-racial thing is working and you will find another bitter, abandoned woman. Of course there is the question about why women are raising these boys without fathers and creating these punks to begin with….You women need to keep those legs together for a change.

By KJ

July 30, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

There are many stereotypes with whichever side you choose and we could argue both all day long. But what it comes down to is what makes you happy. I am a white woman,currently dating a black man. I have dated white men, black men, asian men, etc- if I meet a man and he interests me, I am not going to turn him away because of his race/background. I also do not seek out men based solely on their skin color. Yes, some white woman chase after black men- some white trash and some respectable women. Yes, some black women may be crankier/bossier or whatever than white women. But you can also find drama-filled white girls and incredibly great black girls. In the end you have to date the person that makes you happy and forget what other people think. You hear in the news about the Boise football player & people sending death threats to interracial couples who are about to get married?! Come on- aren’t there better things in the world to worry about than who someone you’ve never met chooses to spend their life with?

By Time to Head Home

July 30, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

Again I say, Federline-Shar Jackson-Britney

What do both women have in common? Different ethnic backgrounds and kids with a man they aren’t married to.

By Melissa

July 30, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

Erik Gordon I believe that this type of dialogue is pointless. What we have here are white men, white women, and mostly black men finding new ways to put down, embarrass, disrespect, name call, and try to stir up the ever-present insecurities of black women. I do take offense to the bashing of Black women, especially by our Black men. I have met difficult people of all races; I would never try to stereotype the way that it’s been done on this blog. Do you call this positive? Do you think that anyone is more enlightened than they were before?

I am a 30 year old Black woman and I am single. I would love to find a wonderful Black male to settle down with and start a family. I feel as though I have plenty to offer a good, mature man. Apparently, God has not deemed it the right time to meet that One yet. But I still believe that he will find me.

My advice to Brothers who can’t seem to find the type of Black women you desire: Change who you approach. We are out there, especially in Atlanta. Go to college, maybe you will find educated women. Go on trips, maybe you will find well-traveled women. Buy a home, maybe you will find a sister in Lowe’s, working to prepare her home also. Do something different other than what you are currently doing. If you are meeting the same types of women, the only common denominator is you.

If we are to believe that men are the head of the household, then you have to believe that if the men change, the women will follow. Black men, support your families, respect your black women. We are dying to feel the love and security that you so freely offer others. I just wish you understood that.

By Searching For Sage

July 31, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

Sage, sorry to hear about your husband. I can’t imagine what that would be like. All the ugliness on this blog and a beautiful person like you comes along - a dove in the middle of a storm.

By gdd

July 31, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

Because they can? Which would you prefer to date?

By ac

July 31, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

If only we could all realize that PEOPLE are all the same… There are lying, cheating, argumentative, greedy JERKS in all races and genders. I know white women who are gold diggers and I know black women who are gold diggers…I know of white men who don’t support their kids and Black men that have sole custody… There is no one perfect! If a black man wants to date a white woman I hope it is because of the person she is and not what he thinks she can do for him…

On a more personal note @ E: As a black woman who is the daughter of a BLACK WOMAN DOCTOR and a BLACK retired NFL player, trust me white people are not the only ones with $… I am surprised you haven’t noticed this being that Atlanta is home of the black millionaire.

By ac

July 31, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

If only we could all realize that PEOPLE are all the same… There are lying, cheating, argumentative, greedy JERKS in all races and genders. I know white women who are gold diggers and I know black women who are gold diggers…I know of white men who don’t support their kids and Black men that have sole custody… There is no one perfect race! If a black man wants to date a white woman I hope it is because of the person she is and not what he thinks she can do for him…

On a more personal note @ E: As a black woman who is the daughter of a BLACK WOMAN DOCTOR and a BLACK retired NFL player, trust me white people are not the only ones with $… I am surprised you haven’t noticed this being that Atlanta is home of the black millionaire.

By Charlie

July 31, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Now if this were 1967 this question wouldn’t even be discussed.

By JAH

July 31, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

I’m not sure why the black women hate white women…it’s your men that are coming after us. Hate them or take a look in the mirror and say why. Notice the posts from the black men on here on what they are saying, you hear that across the board. Of course it’s not ALL, but a majority with anything. Sad thing is that a lot of the nice looking black men choose trailer trash too. WHY!?

By Charles

July 31, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

During the 60’s around election time, white racist candidates would appear via television saying, “The Negris want to integrate to steal our jobs. The Negris want to integrate to get the white man’s education. The Negris want to integrate in order to sleep with white women who will produce Mongrels, Mulattoes and half breeds.”

We were young boys ranging in ages of twelve through fifteen. About nine of us would gather together behind the little house after having completed various chores. The little house was an excellent spot to congregate. It was out of ear range of adults. So we had our way impersonating the white racist. We really had a good time.

Point number one as alleged by the white racist. They were correct; we did want some of their jobs. Adults thought more money could be earned. This would afford black people the means to bring the communal community up to standards, bar none.

The community believed employment as a police officer would put a halt to police brutality. It didn’t happen. To our surprise, the first weird occurrence happened within a few years. The Negroes that had been employed by the department of public safety joined the police brotherhood and hid behind the thin blue line.

The second point made by the white racist was correct. Most African Americans did want to be prepared educationally primarily for the knowledge. White people welcomed many of us into some of their elite universities.

A second bizarre occurrence took place. After the Negroes received prestigious degrees, too many thought that they had out grown the people in the community. Most reasoned that they were beyond the average person and the twain had nothing in common. Just as you hear some Negroes of today say that Michael Vick should discard his friends, crew, upon becoming famous or rich. In other words, white people have accepted me into their world, but they have not accepted you. That was the mantra of those who attended and graduated from prestigious universities which gave birth to a flawed dysfunctional African American community and persons.

Point numbers three, the white racist were absolutely incorrect. The masses of African Americans did not want to become romantically involved with white women. Considering all the possibilities concerning offspring, it was disgusting and demeaning to the masses. Further, the underlying message was that our women were not the cream of the crop. We absolutely rejected the white racist third claim; we didn’t want their women.

A third surreal experience took place. After gaining some acceptance into white society, the so-called educated integrationist Negroes began to help others indoctrinate/brainwash the masses. They suddenly began to teach that people are just people. There is no race or color. Consequently, race does not matter with respect to dating and marriage.

I apologize to those white racist candidates of forty years ago. You were exactly right on all three points. The Negroes behind the integration scheme did not give a damn about the African American community or the people there-in. They wanted nothing more than the white folk’s jobs, education, and their white women.

By bisi

July 31, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

A WOMAN IS A WOMAN IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT COLOR

A WOMAN IS A WOMAN

By bisi

July 31, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

A WOMAN IS A WOMAN IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT COLOR

A WOMAN IS A WOMAN

By JLC

July 31, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Well it’s 2007, not 1967 and it is being discussed so what’s your point??

By Uncle Thomas

July 31, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

JLC Answer: I could use a sandwich right about now; specifically, a tuna sandwich.

By khi

July 31, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

I think that alot of these comments hold truth. And, are based on ones own experience but, what I have found is that there are always a million reasons for why we date/marry outside of our race. And they are all based on ignornat stereotypes. Not one person can say because that’s who I fell in love with it or who I was attracted to at the time. It’s all about ME and what I will be given. This is not a ” blackgirl”issue. Because if we go there black need to look at the history of the the black family or what a “whitegirl” can offer because I now a lot who come to the table with nothing but themselves. It’s about self tolerance.

By khi

July 31, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

I think that alot of these comments hold truth. And, are based on ones own experience but, what I have found is that there are always a million reasons for why we date/marry outside of our race. And they are all based on ignornat stereotypes. Not one person can say because that’s who I fell in love with it or who I was attracted to at the time. It’s all about ME and what I will be given. This is not a ” blackgirl”issue. Because if we go there black need to look at the history of the the black family or what a “whitegirl” can offer because I now a lot who come to the table with nothing but themselves. It’s about self tolerance.

By khi

July 31, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

I think that alot of these comments hold truth. And, are based on ones own experience but, what I have found is that there are always a million reasons for why we date/marry outside of our race. And they are all based on ignornat stereotypes. Not one person can say because that’s who I fell in love with it or who I was attracted to at the time. It’s all about ME and what I will be given. This is not a ” blackgirl”issue. Because if we go there black need to look at the history of the the black family or what a “whitegirl” can offer because I now a lot who come to the table with nothing but themselves. It’s about self tolerance.

By khi

July 31, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

I think that alot of these comments hold truth. And, are based on ones own experience but, what I have found is that there are always a million reasons for why we date/marry outside of our race. And they are all based on ignornat stereotypes. Not one person can say because that’s who I fell in love with it or who I was attracted to at the time. It’s all about ME and what I will be given. This is not a ” blackgirl”issue. Because if we go there black need to look at the history of the the black family or what a “whitegirl” can offer because I now a lot who come to the table with nothing but themselves. It’s about self tolerance.

By khi

July 31, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

I think that alot of these comments hold truth. And, are based on ones own experience but, what I have found is that there are always a million reasons for why we date/marry outside of our race. And they are all based on ignornat stereotypes. Not one person can say because that’s who I fell in love with it or who I was attracted to at the time. It’s all about ME and what I will be given. This is not a ” blackgirl”issue. Because if we go there black need to look at the history of the the black family or what a “whitegirl” can offer because I now a lot who come to the table with nothing but themselves. It’s about self tolerance.

By JLC

July 31, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

Uncle Thomas answer: You’d better get your ass up and make your own sandwich…tuna or otherwise!! I have better things to do to make men sandwiches no matter how good the sex is!!

By Im black and i prefer hispanic women

July 31, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

I find this topic to be tired and wack these days. The real thing is dating Hispanic women. Although I prefer to marry a black woman, im not ready for marriage so for now I plan to keep sticking whatever looks good, minimal attitude and nice smile. I would also agree with the white chik who mentioned how some of these young black professional women act, i’d agree wholeheartedly although I hate to admit it. I’m a personal witness to it, we all as black people have some struggle from years ago and such, in the meantime try and smile for a change..oh yea…HIspanic women = atttitude/physicalities of black woman & hair = white woman

By g_from_dooluth

July 31, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

First off, this topic is skewed. I don’t believe this should be only about black men and white women…I agree in that is an easy topic to spread racist comments.

Second, you can’t even use guys in this equation b/c ALL MEN are attracted to women with a nice frame and good personality(regardless of color).

Lastly, read the comments in this blog alone and the answer is right in front of us…most black women say they want to find a “good BLACK man”. This in itself is close-minded and creates a problem all of its own. Religious purposes aside, the fact is that women of other races (not only white) are more open to dating outside their race than black women are.

I’m a black male and I date women of all races…the way I look at it is, once the lights go out (in the bedroom), we’re all the same color anyway!!

By The real deal..

July 31, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

The real deal is that white girls give infinite-no-hesitation-anytime-you-want it gummy…simple as that…

of course when that’s done i prefer a strong black woman

By Marcus

July 31, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Esau did sell his birth right for a plate of food. Sampson also self destructed. Jews do not marry Germans. The wounds are still too deep and open. Study Shaka Zulu. White women are great for the White men. She is like cryptonite 4 the Black man!

By Uncle Thomas

July 31, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

JLC Now I know what color you are. HA!

I’m black and I prefer hispanic… Observation: Seems like they always tend to stick with their own.

By brother please!

July 31, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

As a woman, black woman at that, I am insulted and offended that the previous blogger categorizes women based upon their physical features and hair. I bet if this man took an honest assessment of himself it would probably reveal that he is most likely overweight and bald and while he does state that he is black it is also probable that he looks hispanic because that is the only way I could imagine a hispanic woman wanting to date you.

By The Truth

July 31, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

I am a black man and in my view, the real issue here is not why a black man dates white women because people should date the person that makes them happy, regardless of color. The real issue is whether there is any truth and trend to what black men are saying about their experiences when they choose to date black women. I have heard many of the comments posted here by black men in other discussions, blogs, etc. I think that black women jump to the defensive too quickly without fairly considering what is said. I am not bashing, but I am trying to be helpful. This is constructive criticism.

I have dated black women my entire life and I have to say that in many instances, black women are not as open-minded and have unfair standards. Many times, they are not as easygoing when approached and are very demanding. Also, on many occasions, they were overly concerned with what I could do for them very early on and they made me feel like I was on a job interiew. All of this instead of just having fun, being a little open-minded, relaxed and seeing where things go without a bunch of pressure.

Many times, a guy wants to feel like he is appreciated and not just another guy who pays for the date. This kind of appreciation goes beyond just having sex with him (although sex is important). To be fair, there are things I could say about many black men too, but right now I am focused on black women. There is nothing wrong with black men, women and anyone else self-reflecting and recognizing areas of improvement. That is a good thing to do and everyone, regardless of race or gender, can benefit from self-reflection and taking steps to improve his/herself.

One more thing. I think it is shameful, racist and insulting to black men and white women to say things that imply that the only time a black man dates a white woman is when is lost or he is self-hating or whatever.

By Amused

July 31, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

I can understand statments from women like “brother please” its hard out here for us black women to find a good pool of men to pull from. I do believe there are good ones out there but for every good single black man you could find one who is married, gay, or just a dog. Then we as women are left with people like the blogger “i prefer hispanic” who is probably no more than just some regular black guy sitting at his cubicle in his white shirt, navy jacket, and khaki pants but thinks he is the black prince because the number of available women are so far in his favor here in Atlanta.

By I prefer hispanic

July 31, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Nice little cute comments…Amused…Im sure you’re nothing more than a woman who just completed a sex change you Bea Arthur looking clown

By Tilla

July 31, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

WOW, a lot of things said in here by black men about black women leaves me to wonder is I will ever find a descent black man to meet, get to know, and if we fall in love, marry. I know I am none of the things some of these men have come to believe a lot of black women are. I’m not a gold digger, I don’t judge men on what car they drive or how much they make or what house they live in. I’m not loud, I don’t pop my gum, I don’t wear fake hair or nails (not that there is anything wrong with that, it’s just something I don’t do). I’m not demanding when I meet a guy. I don’t wear tons of makeup. It doesn’t bother me if I see a black man with a white woman. If a black man wants to date or marry outside his race that is his business, but as for myself I would like to date and marry within my own race, but after reading a lot of the comments by black men on black women make me wonder if I should consider dating other types of men. I had no idea that it was this bad, my goodness, I don’t know what to think. Most of the men I do meet are surprised I don’t have children. It’s really disappointing to know that a lot of black men have these feelings toward black women. It’s down right scary, especially for women like myself, who don’t fit the mold that a lot of these men are talking about.

By Teewee

July 31, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Has any one ever ask the question “why do black women date white men?” I’m a black women and I’m dating a white man. I have my reason for “crossing over”, but i refuse to put all these reason on all black men. I made the choice to try something new and I love it! I’m not saying that I would never date a black man again, but it would not be my first choice.

I just decided to make sure that I raise my black son, so that he won’t become one of those no good black males.

By Sunshine

July 31, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

I have one question for all the black men on this blog who have disrespected black women. What would your black mother think if she read your comments? You should be ashamed!

By Sunshine

July 31, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

I have one question for all the black men on this blog who have disrespected black women. What would your black mother think if she read your comments? You should be ashamed!

By Sunshine

July 31, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

I have one question for all the black men on this blog who have disrespected black women. What would your black mother think if she read your comments? You should be ashamed!

By Tilla

July 31, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

I don’t want to be treated like a queen or a princess, I just want to be treated with kindness and respect.

By Your Wack: "Im black and i prefer hispanic women"

July 31, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

To the person that goes by “Im black and i prefer hispanic women”…I bet your numbers of “sticking” are pretty low…you sound like the type. Continue to be the loser that you are…you don’t know how much you help young black males like myself…cheers to you!

By Tilla

July 31, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

And what is the deal with the sandwich? I’m just not understanding that. What does that really have to do with anything?

By Tilla

July 31, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

What’s wrong with cuddling after sex? Or just holding each other.

By SHAMIKA TAMARA BROWN

July 31, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

WHO CARES THAT BLACK MEN DATE WHITE WOMEN… JUST BE GLAD THAT SHE’S A WOMAN

By I prefer hispanic

July 31, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Sticking wise, Im ok…matter of fact im way past getting sticking numbers..im ok with just finding a good one to stick it to, ive had my fun, i imagine you must be wilt chamberlain or so since you concentrate on your ‘numbers’.i’d put up one of sticking numbers to all of your chiks combined and you’d still be wack..i sound like the type..WTF does that even mean..in no way do i help alternative lifestyle people like you…

anyhow, while debates like this always get people riled up and to tell you the truth even when you have blogs like this, most people just say something to say it…the prob is not a black woman, the prob is not with the black man dating his white woman, the prob is not with a white woman, etc..etc..

the prob is everyone is so caught up into silly sterotypes and ‘expectations’ of what they want they rarely see the what they need in front of them face if its there…a woman with a stank attitude is that..whether she is black, or what not, whther she only wants money or blah blah blah..cry a river…a woman with a nice heart, respectful, and carries herself well will find a good person eventually and if she’s white, who cares…live, learn and love baby..

FYI…im living a happy life with a beautiful black woman who i worship…dont’ let folks on a blog rile you folks all up..go out and find yours and stop looking for people to tell what you to find

would i have preferred a hispanic? Prolyl yes, but I ended up with a beaituful black women, and yes maybe she would have preferred a taller guy than me…d**..

By Teewee

July 31, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

You are right with that one Shamika. (lol) The question should be……. Why do black men date black men or men??

By Bootney Fonzworth

July 31, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

All women choose to be with the men that they are with, regardless of color.

Black women routinely pass over good black men to go after the sorriest, most obnoxious, ignorant, phony, materialistic, and pathetic negro men they can find.

Black women choose to allow themselves to become impregnated by these sorry men, who are just as incapable of raising a well-healed child as much as they are. Black women need to be instantly gratified as much as the sorry black men they seem to be drawn to.

So the black woman is resolved to believe white women are somehow to blame for their bad decisions. Black men are to blame because they were supposed to stand around, and wait to rescue you from your own bad choices.

Then they get p** off about romantic BM/WW relationships, when in fact their anger is misguided and should be angry really at themselves for their own stupidity and bad decisions.

Sorry, but as a single hard-working black man who went to school, and had led a life of hard work and discipline we are NOT obligated to take in your baggage, take care of your children, your need to be instantly gratified, and somehow comforted from your stupidity along with the rest of your shortcomings. Face it… you’ve had your chance and you missed out.

Angry Black Woman, look in the mirror if you want to blame somebody.

Bootney

By I prefer hispanic

July 31, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Bootney, through all my silly comments, i agree whole heartedly with you for the most part

By I prefer hispanic

July 31, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Bootney, through all my silly comments, i agree whole heartedly with you for the most part at least towards that angry black woman who refuses to even take a look at herself in the mirror and maybe say to herself ” Maybe the problem is me”.

and this also applies to the woman who think she’s perfect and every guy should want her..i had a 42 year old single mother of 2 yack at me for being 28 and being single when i was..She said ” the problem with you young black guys is that you don’t know what you want”..i said ” well, ma’am…i know i don’t want you”

By Que-2000

July 31, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

America is a melting pot. It has not always been this way. I am the Black Man, my skin is dark and unconditionally smooth, my lips are not pink, and most white women stand at attention when I am near. Most Black women do too! Society is steered by invisible lights, called stereotypes. I think there are two different types of people, those who judge books by the cover and those who look further. People who date outside of their race because of superficial, shallow, phony, apparent or monetary reasons do not QUALIFY!<~~~(Think For yourself but most important love yourself) I have never dated a white woman, and probably never will only because I love the Vista of Beautiful Black Skin. To get a better wholistic grasp of the quetion and answer we as Bloggie’s should look into the views of extremist! Black Power Folks, White Power Folks, Hispanic Power Folks, and Asian Power folks all exist and I bet they all have a different answer!

By Charles

July 31, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

During the 60’s around election time, white racist candidates would appear via television saying, “The Negris want to integrate to steal our jobs. The Negris want to integrate to get the white man’s education. The Negris want to integrate in order to sleep with white women who will produce Mongrels, Mulattoes and half breeds.”

We were young boys ranging in ages of twelve through fifteen. About nine of us would gather together behind the little house after having completed various chores. The little house was an excellent spot to congregate. It was out of ear range of adults. So we had our way impersonating the white racist. We really had a good time.

Point number one as alleged by the white racist. They were correct; we did want some of their jobs. Adults thought more money could be earned. This would afford black people the means to bring the communal community up to standards, bar none.

The community believed employment as a police officer would put a halt to police brutality. It didn’t happen. To our surprise, the first weird occurrence happened within a few years. The Negroes that had been employed by the department of public safety joined the police brotherhood and hid behind the thin blue line.

The second point made by the white racist was correct. Most African Americans did want to be prepared educationally primarily for the knowledge. White people welcomed many of us into some of their elite universities.

A second bizarre occurrence took place. After the Negroes received prestigious degrees, too many thought that they had out grown the people in the community. Most reasoned that they were beyond the average person and the twain had nothing in common. Just as you hear some Negroes of today say that Michael Vick should discard his friends, crew, upon becoming famous or rich. In other words, white people have accepted me into their world, but they have not accepted you. That was the mantra of those who attended and graduated from prestigious universities which gave birth to a flawed dysfunctional African American community and persons.

Point numbers three, the white racist were absolutely incorrect. The masses of African Americans did not want to become romantically involved with white women. Considering all the possibilities concerning offspring, it was disgusting and demeaning to the masses. Further, the underlying message was that our women were not the cream of the crop. We absolutely rejected the white racist third claim; we didn’t want their women.

A third surreal experience took place. After gaining some acceptance into white society, the so-called educated integrationist Negroes began to help others indoctrinate/brainwash the masses. They suddenly began to teach that people are just people. There is no race or color. Consequently, race does not matter with respect to dating and marriage.

I apologize to those white racist candidates of forty years ago. You were exactly right on all three points. The Negroes behind the integration scheme did not give a damn about the African American community or the people there-in. They wanted nothing more than the white folk’s jobs, education, and their white women

By Uncle Thomas

July 31, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

I prefer hispanic Answer: LOL

Tilla Answer: A sandwich satisfies the stomach more than a cuddle. Teddy bears are used for that purpose (or blow up dolls).

Teewee Answer: Black men date black men (or others) because there’s something they receive that they don’t receive from women: BABY DADDY DRAMA

I learn different things when I am around difference races of people. By not hanging on one side of the pear tree, I can a) broaden my horizons, b) expand my social network, and, c) explore points of view from people other than my own

By LipstickalleyMember

August 1, 2007 8:17 AM | Link to this

HEY LSA!! I’m posting this just to p** off alot of the board members… CAUSE WHITE WOMEN ARE SO NICE, BODIES SO SOFT AND THEY JUST GET WHAT GUYS NEED AND WANT. I LOVE EM’

By Tilla

August 1, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

If I had a good black man in my life I would give him all the sandwiches he wants and then some, but they are so hard to find.

By stacy

August 1, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

I think the reasons listed above are pretty damn ignorant.

Why does it always have to be so cut and dry? Why is it a general black/white statement?

Shouldn’t it be more about why a specific man wants to date a specific woman?

By jasmine

August 1, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

I cannot believe that The Conscious One (quite an ironic name) is blaming black women for everything. That’s totally ignorant but I guess it makes him feel better even though it is TOTALLY FALSE. He is disgusting…it just makes me sick to think someone is so ridiculously sexist. Just unbelievable…what an idiot.

By jasmine

August 1, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

I cannot believe that The Conscious One (quite an ironic name) is blaming black women for everything. That’s totally ignorant but I guess it makes him feel better even though it is TOTALLY FALSE. He is disgusting…it just makes me sick to think someone is so ridiculously sexist. Just unbelievable…what an idiot.

By jasmine

August 1, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

I cannot believe that The Conscious One (quite an ironic name) is blaming black women for everything. That’s totally ignorant but I guess it makes him feel better even though it is TOTALLY FALSE. He is disgusting…it just makes me sick to think someone is so ridiculously sexist. Just unbelievable…what an idiot.

By jasmine

August 1, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

I cannot believe that The Conscious One (quite an ironic name) is blaming black women for everything. That’s totally ignorant but I guess it makes him feel better even though it is TOTALLY FALSE. He is disgusting…it just makes me sick to think someone is so ridiculously sexist. Just unbelievable…what an idiot.

By Mr. Man

August 1, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

I am a 32 year black man who is dating a beautiful latina woman. I fell in love with her because we have alot in common and she treats me like a king. I think as long as the love is real then color should not matter. I think that we have to keep it real. In a country where we live together, work together, hang out together socially; it’s kind of unrealistic to think that everyone will only date their own race. With all of that said, there are alot of brothas who date outside the race because they have been brainwashed into subconsciously hating their own.

By Mr. Charlie

August 1, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Whatever happened to hitting the ‘POST’ button ONCE? Yes, it takes several seconds for the page to process.

The way I see it everyone born in the 70s and later, are more open to dating outside their races. Shoop Shoop.

By tetyana

August 1, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

why white women wants to date black man?they are lazy and cheaters.They just know how to make a kids and live.

By Chelsea

August 1, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

Most black men who date white women solely because they are white are usually WEAK and most often suffering from some form of SELF HATRED. Black men who are of celebrity status, etc.usually date white women to gain {what they believe} a ticket or a pass into the white world. Black women should stop being upset when they see black men with women of other races because he is probably HALF A MAN anyway! I prefer my men to be STRONG, SELF-CONFIDENT and ASSERTIVE. So if a black man states that he won’t date a black woman because she is too strong or too independent, that says a lot about that man. Don’t hate the white women, just disregard the black man….that’s what the white men do..they pretty much write off the white women who date black men and probably wouldn’t date them because now they are considered “tainted”.

By Kim

August 1, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

Just curious? How does a black man relates to his white woman the woes of the world when he is faced with genuine discrimination, racism, etc. can she really understand?

I am an asian and I see it every day in Corporate America and elsewhere where the black man and minority are deliberately held back because because of the color of their skin…I don’t think I could comfort someone when I cannot relate to their issues/struggles….just a thought in the Asian culture the women are worshipped by the Asian man, maybe the black men should start worshipping their black woman and make them happy instead of cheating on them and disrespecting them for the whole world to see…that is a shame! it really makes the black man look really bad beacause they don’t take care of their women like they should…

By Mr. Charlie

August 1, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

Chelsea:

What about WEAK, self-confident and assertive?

By I prefer hispanic

August 1, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Amused: This is what you said “I do believe there are good ones out there but for every good single black man you could find one who is married, gay, or just a dog.”

Easily one of the most dumbest non thought out pathetic escuses I’ve heard. Matter of fact, for every great woman out there, you could find one that is dumb, gold digger, drama-full or just a ho..or even a past-ho trying to be good, or a bi and d** also”…oh yea that makes your argument silly…

Try and just wait for your person to come and stop all the complaining

Amused, wow, that was an idiotic response to make…shakes head in laughter and disgust…

By jaz

August 1, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

THE CONSCIOUS ONE: Surely you must recognize that it all STARTS with the black man. The black man MUST be strong enough to LEAD his family, not run away and start whining and complaining when he is faced with adverse situations. The black man need to STEP UP and TAKE charge of his house and stop blaming the black woman.

By Tilla

August 1, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

Kim, and Jaz, I agree with you.

By Mr. Charlie

August 1, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

Doesn’t seem to be a lot of folks responding now. I didn’t find much use out of that website either (www.blackmenvent.com).

By lord glartasauraus

August 1, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

the simple fac of the matter is that violence against the gold standard of skin pigmentation or lack there of is one way white wome ‘get back’ at a systemic psychosexual maladaptation that manifests itself in the daily, cowardly, and stinging slights that black folks are familar with … plus a good black man often times ins’t nearly as psycho as whitey

By Blk woman

August 2, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

CONGRATULATIONS FELLOW MORRIS BROWNITE Mr. Erik Gordon! You definetly gave the people something to talk about. Rather it be good or bad. I am PRO-Choice myself. To each his own! Why do MEN date MEN? Now that’s some sh*t!

By Les

August 2, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

I’m a black guy that dates a white woman. She’s nice to me and we both respect each other as a couple should. I don’t treat her any different from any black woman I’ve dated because I’ve always been nice to women that I get involved with. I used to be one of those black militant types and I’m glad that I’m not anymore. The woman that makes me happy and will soon be my wife more than likely just happened to be white. I didn’t start talking to her because she’s better than a black woman, she was just best for me. From experience, a woman is a woman. Black women aren’t any better than white women and white women are no better than black women. All women pretty much want the same thing, a man that’s going to be a provider, a comforter, keep his lady safe from harm and a man that will take care of his children if you have any. Many black people have taken on the same attitude as white people and they don’t even realize it. Blacks say Jesus was black and whites portray him as being white. Truth be told, that region of Africa, if you look at the people, everybody looks middle eastern and no the people didn’t just get that way this century. Black people say we should build black neighborhoods and only deal with black people. Black people always want to say how we are superior to white people physically and mentally just like whites say they are. In all, many of us black people have adopted the same hateful attitude as white people because we have learned through the hateful white man’s example. Let’s all rise above that and start being nice to everyone regardless of race. If you truly believe in the teachings of God and living your life as a Christian, never attempt to put yourself above someone else to make that other person feel worse or just to make yourself feel better. I do realize that black people have been treated unfairly for as long as the U.S. has been a nation, but I will not let those people’s thoughts hold me back. For all those single black women out there, never think that a white woman is better than you, but at the same time, don’t think you are better than them. You are each an individual and that’s how you should be seen. Regardless of what you think, everybody isn’t meant to be married and it doesn’t make you less of a person if you never get married or have children. It even says in 1st Corinthians in the 7th chapter that it is better to be single than to be married, but no one ever tells you those verses. If you don’t have a man, it’s no the end of the world.

By Tilla

August 2, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Les: I understand what you are saying, but just in response to the last part of your statement, you said that in 1st Corinthians it says it is better to be single than to be married and that if you don’t have a man , it’s not the end of the world. Well for me, I am 37 yrs old and have never been married and don’t have any children, at first when I was younger that didn’t bother me too much, but now that I am getting older, I do want someone to share my life with, and don’t want to be alone anymore. Growing old alone may not be the end of the world but it would sure feel like it. I hear people say that there is someone for everyone, but I just haven’t found that person yet, not saying I have never dated or don’t meet people, just haven’t met that special person.

By susu

August 2, 2007 7:44 PM | Link to this

LOL at all the people who think Black women have standards that are too high. Im an educated, childless, professional black woman from NYC and I have many friends just like me who date loosers with several children (and baby mammas). I dont know any black women that have a black man paying their rent and buying them cars. What sector of the population are you talking about. As far as hostile, lazy, attitudy…I feel that’s more of a socioeconomic status thing, rathar than a race thing. Have ya been to Bensonhurst or Howard Beach. The white women there are just as loud, aggressisive, and hostile as a “project chick”. Being part of any maginalized community forces one to develop a tough exterior. It’s a survival tactic. Maybe Black women would be more forgiving and “sweet” if we had a community of men who supported and protected us. Black women go out into the world and are told we are ugly, fat, nappy, black,and masculine. Then when we come home, we are told we are bitches, w**, and nappy. To keep from totally breaking down we develop a thick guarded skin. And if you are a black man who consistently meets “gold diggers” then that’s the energy you put out. I mean when ya wear a fur, drive a drop top Benze, and a s** of Jewels, who else is gonna be attracted to all that flash (not a real woman). The real question should be; Black women…why are we so loyal to the shallow pool of dateable black men? Why dont we date outside of our race more often?

By me

August 2, 2007 8:29 PM | Link to this

WHO CARES? AND EVEN IF YOU DO, WHAT BUSINESS IS IT OF YOURS ANYWAYS??? INSTEAD OF WASTING YOUR TIME WORRYING ABOUT OTHERS & THEIR PREFERENCES, WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN RELATIONSHIPS!!!

By Adonis Ignisfatuus

August 3, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

i believe there are some beautiful black women out there but there are more of the bad than the good ones, i meet so many women from day to day but i have to say i’ve been attracted to the other races mainly because they are WOMEN! that’s it nothing else. white women are sexy as hell, so are asians, so are puerto ricans, so are brazilians, and heck there’s more latino and white women in American than black women any way….

Oh yeah the white women at my job won’t even look at black men, there too busy walking around kissing up to the next man… i actually think some of them are embarrassed of me!

By Adonis Ignisfatuus

August 3, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

i believe there are some beautiful black women out there but there are more of the bad than the good ones, i meet so many women from day to day but i have to say i’ve been attracted to the other races mainly because they are WOMEN! that’s it nothing else. white women are sexy as hell, so are asians, so are puerto ricans, so are brazilians, and heck there’s more latino and white women in American than black women any way….

Oh yeah the black women at my job won’t even look at black men, there too busy walking around kissing up to the next man… i actually think some of them are embarrassed of me!

By kiran

August 6, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Having an afternoon drink with a friend last Sunday, we found ourselves sitting beside a trendy twentysomething couple whose conversation we could overhear all too clearly. Actually, it was just a monologue by the young woman, who spelled out each of the banal uninteresting problems and worries that plagued her life. All of her mind-numbing anxieties - about work, her friends, what to buy someone for their birthday - were articulated in excruciating detail over the next two hours in a grating, whining voice. Read more: http://diggindianews.com/GossipMyths/Whymenandwomenhavenothingincommonexcept_sex/

By kity

August 6, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Having an afternoon drink with a friend last Sunday, we found ourselves sitting beside a trendy twentysomething couple whose conversation we could overhear all too clearly. Actually, it was just a monologue by the young woman, who spelled out each of the banal uninteresting problems and worries that plagued her life. All of her mind-numbing anxieties - about work, her friends, what to buy someone for their birthday - were articulated in excruciating detail over the next two hours in a grating, whining voice. Read more: Why men and women have nothing in common (except sex)

By no name

August 7, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

95% of the comments on this board are absolutely ridiculous. If anyone has an “excuse” for dating outside their race, they have a problem.

By Lui

August 8, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Black women work hard, many are in the lower paying jobs. Some black men use the term gold diggers against black women to refuse them support. They refuses to contribute to the upkeep of there home and children. If a woman asks for assistance into paying rent he calls her a gold digger, if she asks him to take a loan to help buy a car to help ferry the child, he goes crazy, if she asks for help with paying bills he threatens to get himself a white woman. Why and he leaves in the same house. The black male becomes a big burden to the black woman and relationships sour, the black man seeks sanctuary with white woman who normally has a good job and does not require much input for him and he also gets a lot of sex.

Who wouldn’t want an easy life; it is what a lot black men have chosen. Demonised the black woman and got away from responsibility.

By Angela

August 8, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Why is it that when topics like this come up, everyone from all over loves to comment on the black woman? I thought this topic was why did black men date white women? Somehow it always comes back to the black woman, like every black woman picked up a gun and forced all black men to run to white women. How childish can some of you adults be? No one makes you do anything. It is a choice that you made to date that woman. It was your decision to write off all black women because we are all the same. It was you that decided any woman was better than a black woman. It was not I, nor any other black woman that FORCED you to date or marry non-black women. Think about that the next time many of you black men cry victim.

I was raised to be independent and to never depend on a man for anything, since I am capable of providing for myself. Not only did my mother raise me this way, but so did my father. Please do not attack my parents or me by saying that was a dumb move. I believe that was the smartest move they ever made. I was raised to believe in myself, because I know no one in the world will. Now let me ask this, are all black women supposed to be overtly submissive to the point of where they have no backbone? This seems to be the main point that these type of topics always lead back to. I believe in building my own net worth, so if I were married and my husband died I don’t have to worry about any financial problems. I will already be taken care of with or without my husband’s financial success. My father told me everyday that I was a black queen, and to never accept anything that would damage me mentally, physically, or even spiritually. I am a strong woman because I had two loving parents instill in me very good morals. I live my life according to the way God would like me to live, and I give him glory everyday. I could care less if all black men ran off to be with white women. I’m more concerned with living my life according to God’s laws, and being the best woman I can be. I do not believe in searching for love, because often times when you search you get the things you do not want in the first place. This may also be why we see so many black men as well as black men complaining about each other.

Let me just state this final thought. It seems black men are more accepted in this world than black women are, and that the world loves to tear down black women any chance it gets. I will add that if you as a person love seeing another in pain, you need help. If any black women are offended, please don’t be. Never second guess yourself. You are beautiful, smart, and loving. You are made beautiful and glorious in the image of God. Any man that finds you, has found a good thing. I will continue to pray and wait on God to send me my husband. My brothers do not think I don’t love you either. I do not hate black men or people in general, but I hate the way we all treat each other. You do not have to accept my views, but I know this world is only going to get worse. And if you thought racism, colorism, and sexism was bad now well you have not seen anything yet. Stay strong and steadfast in the Lord, and he will supply all your needs. God bless you all.

By Tilla

August 9, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

That was very well put Angela.

By huey long

August 9, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

White women who date black men have poor self esteem. black men who date white women have a self hate problem.

By Peachy

August 10, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

This comment is for all the males of color who some how found it correct to degrade the women who carried your behinds for months,who cleaned your behinds when Daddy wasn’t there. What kind of message are we as a race showing the others:We hate ourselves, so join us…It’s a shame. Black women have issues, so does any other woman in general.Think..take the financial advantage the white woman has over the black woman away , we would have the same problems. The unemployment line, and welfare line is full of white women as well. Iam not on here to bash the whites they treat us the way we treat ourselves. Men,some of you are just plain nasty, you deal with another race because you can’t fulfill freak fantasies with our women, or to gain control, just plain simple minded, For all of you white men/ women who find yourselves bashing us,think again. Take a good look at yourselves.You are degading the women who produced the males your are laying with. What does that say about you. We are sick of people dogging us, and then trying to be like us.Ladies, we are beautiful, we come in all shapes, and colors, we are intelligent, and resourceful,spiritual, and most of all survivors.Please ignore the negativity, the LORD said, people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge. Another, how many of our men turned to a white woman, and have a 50th anniversary??, how many of you have to be burned to get the picture. Blacks as a whole need to learn self-respect, and then talk smack about your own. Would anyone respect a man who can’t stand up for his own.You want a sandwich,that speaks for your self worth, the sex wasn’t good Bro, if it was she would be asleep.I have so much to say, to all the people who came to our defense, thank you, for the others, in behalf of all the beautiful black women, handsome intelligent black men, GOD loves you, and so do I. ps. For the white people who didn’t blast us, start letting the truth be known, let our people know how ignorant some us are, and sound.It may change some of their minds.Iam bi-racial, and love every part of me.Blacks, as my dear cousin wrote in her book. stand and be counted( elissagabrielle.com)get the book,knowledge is power. Before I go, Men before you jump the fence, who are the people who beat, and raped our women before you started, who hung your @#$$, burned down your homes, sold your children???.Current,who runs the country where you have no rights,who wants all you have, which isn’t too much?.We have enough people against us, we need each other. Stop snitchin, ditchin, lying, and cheatin, then you’ll get some love.

By Augydoggy

August 15, 2007 9:10 PM | Link to this

I am a white man, age 52 and have 36 years of dating experience. I have probably had more than a hundred girlfriends in that time (but who’s counting) and the ratio has been close to 50 percent white women and 50 percent black women. I was an early pioneer in inter-racial dating; I started dating black women in the early 80s simply because I found them very attractive. I am still single for a reason: ALL women want too much! They want ALL my money so they can keep theirs to spend on themselves. They are spoiled and selfish, and they are very irresponsible with their own money. Unless a couple is raising babies together, the days of men taking care of women are over. All my relationships come to an end because we eventually end up arguing about them asking me for money in one way or another, even if it is just ridiculously expensive dating that I am expected to finance 100 percent. Women of all races need to wake up and realize that men are not walking bank accounts. All I have asked of each woman is simply her company; why can’t just my companionship also be enough for them? Don’t think that switching to another race is going to get you away from the problems as both white and black women have the same issues to deal with. Women complain that they have trouble finding a good man but what they really mean by that is this: They have trouble finding a man smart enough to make a lot of money who is also dumb enough to give it all away to his woman. Good luck guys.

By DW

August 17, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

I am black. I am female. And guess what: I think black women need to stop allowing themselves to be bothered by so many things. You can only be bothered by what you allow to trouble you. Why care if someone dates white women? Why care if someone isnt attracted to black women? There are a million other fish in the sea. Stop letting negativity into your world. (Not the negativity of IR dating - that’s not negativity. I’m saying, stop embracing negative feelings about it)

A quick story: A while back, as I tried to park near my office, a guy (to put things simply) wouldn’t move his car to make it a little easier for me to get into a spot. This man was black. I admit to having a temper - and I do NOT like being angry - so when I got out of the car I purposely DID NOT LOOK AT HIM or say anything to him. I knew if I did, we would have a conflict and my energy would be negative all day. Guess what he howled as I walked by? “You got an attitude!” Dude, attitude? I DIDN’T EVEN LOOK AT HIM!!! So what does that tell you? That on some level, it doesn’t matter what you say, think, or do, how you act or carry yourself. Some people just have black women all boxed in. They’ve got us all figured out. To them black woman=trouble, whether she’s Mother Teresa.

So who cares lmao When I’m confronted with someone telling me how all black women are fat, lazy, bitches my response is: “Well, you’ve got me all figured out don’t you. No need to reply.” then I take my skinny, hard working, childless self on up the road and leave the negativity right where it was!

hearty belly laugh

By Tenea

August 17, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

I personally think that black men date white women (especially here in New York big white ones)because basically they are westernized and they are weak and can’t control as sista. With a white women they probally have that control that they are to weak to earn with a sista. So personally they can have the weak ugly ones,cuz they need luv too! Just don’t touch my strong minded ones like Denzel. cuz I’ll cut ya.:)

By DeShawn

August 21, 2007 4:17 AM | Link to this

While reading these comments, I was certainly reminded that people are very openly opinionated. While I won’t go as far as to say others beliefs are ignorant, I will have to disagree with some. Personally, as a 17 year old African-american or “black” male, I believe black men who date white women date them simply because they find them attractive and want to pursue a relationship with them. That’s it!! There is no elaborate explanation as to why black men, as a group date white women. Please dont try to explain the entire group’s desicion to date white woman with a single black man’s reason for dating a white woman. By doing so you will have created a bias preventing impartial judgement. I myself dont have any biases against any type of women and I do not feel black females have any more expectations than white females. I dont feel white women are more emotionally or financially stable than black woman and I dont feel back women have more confidence than white women. But due to my lack of experience I cant be sure and won’t be unobjective to my own own beliefs. What I do realize here is that there is alot of blaming and finger pointing associated with a topic I think is merely an individuals decision.

By Godsson

August 24, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

To the idiot who keeps talking about Jesse and Al, shut up. They do what unfortunately alot of my brothas and sistas won’t do. They stand up for blacks, regardless of how whites take it. And that’s what is lost in our community. We are worried about what whites would think if we say this or that is FU(&ed up. Whites are not held to the same standard. We as black people don’t equate the actions of one white to the whole race…but alot (not all) of whites seem to. I support Jesse and Al for one reason. As long as there are crackers in the world who think that a rapper talking about a “BITCH OR A HOE”, gives them the right to call our sistas “NAPPY HEADED HOES”, there will always be a need for them. So ask some of your white buddies to clean up their act and Jesse and Al will disappear. And just a side bar to the sistas out there, wake up! No rapper ever said the words “black bitch or black hoe”. You know they are talking about groupies who only want to f***, because they have money. Groupies are white, black, green etc. You know that! White media and marketing have turned sistas bitter. How? These are the things you have had since earth began, which you were told was a curse. But really is a blessing, because OTHER women get credit for it. FULL LIPS: Angelina Jolie. BIG BOOTY: J-HO, oh I mean J-LO. COMPLEXION/SKIN COLOR: we were told that our skin color was a curse, than why are so many white people TANNING. The break down in black relationships is in a big part due to bitterness of sistas. Please, just listen. Sistas are angry and that anger grows into becoming ultra defensive. Which is a turn off. Also understand the game some brothas just wanna date, what’s wrong with that? If you are looking for marriage stop giving up booty within the first couple weeks. If he can’t wait than you have just filtered out someone bad for you. It is not a white woman’s fault that she is attracted to “THE SALT OF THE EARTH” black men. Take the time to rediscover what is beautiful about black men again……you might just rediscover again what is beautiful about you.

By godsson

August 24, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

To the idiot who keeps talking about Jesse and Al, shut up. They do what unfortunately alot of my brothas and sistas won’t do. They stand up for blacks, regardless of how whites take it. And that’s what is lost in our community. We are worried about what whites would think if we say this or that is FU(&ed up. Whites are not held to the same standard. We as black people don’t equate the actions of one white to the whole race…but alot (not all) of whites seem to. I support Jesse and Al for one reason. As long as there are crackers in the world who think that a rapper talking about a “BITCH OR A HOE”, gives them the right to call our sistas “NAPPY HEADED HOES”, there will always be a need for them. So ask some of your white buddies to clean up their act and Jesse and Al will disappear. And just a side bar to the sistas out there, wake up! No rapper ever said the words “black bitch or black hoe”. You know they are talking about groupies who only want to f***, because they have money. Groupies are white, black, green etc. You know that! White media and marketing have turned sistas bitter. How? These are the things you have had since earth began, which you were told was a curse. But really is a blessing, because OTHER women get credit for it. FULL LIPS: Angelina Jolie. BIG BOOTY: J-HO, oh I mean J-LO. COMPLEXION/SKIN COLOR: we were told that our skin color was a curse, than why are so many white people TANNING. The break down in black relationships is in a big part due to bitterness of sistas. Please, just listen. Sistas are angry and that anger grows into becoming ultra defensive. Which is a turn off. Also understand the game some brothas just wanna date, what’s wrong with that? If you are looking for marriage stop giving up booty within the first couple weeks. If he can’t wait than you have just filtered out someone bad for you. It is not a white woman’s fault that she is attracted to “THE SALT OF THE EARTH” black men. Take the time to rediscover what is beautiful about black men again……you might just rediscover again what is beautiful about you.

By godsson

August 24, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

To the idiot who keeps talking about Jesse and Al, shut up. They do what unfortunately alot of my brothas and sistas won’t do. They stand up for blacks, regardless of how whites take it. And that’s what is lost in our community. We are worried about what whites would think if we say this or that is FU(&ed up. Whites are not held to the same standard. We as black people don’t equate the actions of one white to the whole race…but alot (not all) of whites seem to. I support Jesse and Al for one reason. As long as there are crackers in the world who think that a rapper talking about a “BITCH OR A HOE”, gives them the right to call our sistas “NAPPY HEADED HOES”, there will always be a need for them. So ask some of your white buddies to clean up their act and Jesse and Al will disappear. And just a side bar to the sistas out there, wake up! No rapper ever said the words “black bitch or black hoe”. You know they are talking about groupies who only want to f***, because they have money. Groupies are white, black, green etc. You know that! White media and marketing have turned sistas bitter. How? These are the things you have had since earth began, which you were told was a curse. But really is a blessing, because OTHER women get credit for it. FULL LIPS: Angelina Jolie. BIG BOOTY: J-HO, oh I mean J-LO. COMPLEXION/SKIN COLOR: we were told that our skin color was a curse, than why are so many white people TANNING. The break down in black relationships is in a big part due to bitterness of sistas. Please, just listen. Sistas are angry and that anger grows into becoming ultra defensive. Which is a turn off. Also understand the game some brothas just wanna date, what’s wrong with that? If you are looking for marriage stop giving up booty within the first couple weeks. If he can’t wait than you have just filtered out someone bad for you. It is not a white woman’s fault that she is attracted to “THE SALT OF THE EARTH” black men. Take the time to rediscover what is beautiful about black men again……you might just rediscover again what is beautiful about you.

By rjthepuppet

August 24, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

Everyone has their opinion. I have dated both Black and White women. The drama they bring is the same. I prefer Black women but it is difficult to find one that does not see me as weak because I want to romance her. I am not a baggy pants wearing, gold chain wearing thug type. I have a good job, a nice car, and my own place but Black women seem disinterested in a nice guy.

I have found White women I haved dated to be petty and controllable. I want a strong Black woman in my life.

Why I dated White women initially was a geographic relocation of my job and they were the dominant race of females and I was curious. I just found them lacking the strength and soul of my “sistas”. Many times when I have been placed in environs where non-Black females are dominant I flirted because it is what men and women do. Many times White women were just as curious to date a Black man as I them.

By Jacinta

August 24, 2007 10:36 PM | Link to this

I am a fun, warm, non-threatening , intelligent, educated and sexy 28 year old childless SWF ( may sound boastful but I am trying to communicate my story…not use this as a dating site…although…) I grew up in the ‘white’ leafy suburbs of Sydney Australia. I have had a half a dozen or so relationships with men - of various colours and backgrounds. I used to date white men but I cant do it now. I really don’t know why I stopped finding white men attractive (maybe i have some underlying subconscious issues??!! I don’t know about “Self Hate”?? but even the ‘finest’ white men don’t interest me at all any more. Has this happened to anyone else? It’s frustrating at times because I feel like I am drowning in a sea of ‘suitable’ white men when all I want is a good black one for a healthy long term relationship and hopefully some babies! I hate to think of myself as that superficial that I would completely disregard the entire white male population as potential partners although that’s how my brain is wired these days….I have lots of lovely kind intelligent white male friends but i am not interested in having a physical relationship with them. I may have had a few relationships but I certainly don’t consider myself a “trash bag” as one person wrote re WW and I don’t have a bunch of mixed race kids to different daddies. I teach art in high school, love my job and am genuinely interested to know if anyone else has had a similar experience. I sometimes wonder if this is some kind of phase or if the old saying is true…”once you’ve had black…” its absolutely true for me – and it not about “the pipe” its about the man.

By Jacinta

August 24, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this

I am a fun, warm, non-threatening , intelligent, educated and sexy 28 year old childless SWF ( may sound boastful but I am trying to communicate my story…not use this as a dating site…although…) I grew up in the ‘white’ leafy suburbs of Sydney Australia. I have had a half a dozen long and short term relationships with men - of various colours and backgrounds. I used to date white men but I couldn’t do it now. I really don’t know why I stopped finding white men attractive (maybe i have some underlying subconscious issues??!! I don’t know about “Self Hate”?? but even the ‘finest’ white men don’t interest me at all any more. Has this happened to anyone else? It’s frustrating at times because I feel like I am drowning in a sea of ‘suitable’ white men when all I want is a good black one for a healthy long term relationship and hopefully some babies! I hate to think of myself as that superficial that I would completely disregard the entire white male population as potential partners although that’s how my brain is wired these days….I have lots of lovely kind intelligent white male friends but i am not interested in having a physical relationship with them. I may have had a few relationships but I certainly don’t consider myself a “trash bag” as one person wrote re WW. I don’t have a bunch of mixed race kids to different daddies. I teach art in high school, love my job and am genuinely interested to know if anyone else has had a similar experience. I sometimes wonder if this is some kind of phase or if the old saying is true…”once you’ve had black…” its absolutely true for me – and it not about “the pipe” its about the man.

By Jacinta

August 24, 2007 10:42 PM | Link to this

I am a fun, warm, non-threatening , intelligent, educated and sexy 28 year old childless SWF ( may sound boastful but I am trying to communicate my story…not use this as a dating site…although…) I grew up in the ‘white’ leafy suburbs of Sydney Australia. I have had a half a dozen long and short term relationships with men - of various colours and backgrounds. I used to date white men but I couldn’t do it now. I really don’t know why I stopped finding white men attractive (maybe i have some underlying subconscious issues??!! I don’t know about “Self Hate”?? but even the ‘finest’ white men don’t interest me at all any more. Has this happened to anyone else? It’s frustrating at times because I feel like I am drowning in a sea of ‘suitable’ white men when all I want is a good black one for a healthy long term relationship and hopefully some babies! I hate to think of myself as that superficial that I would completely disregard the entire white male population as potential partners although that’s how my brain is wired these days….I have lots of lovely kind intelligent white male friends but i am not interested in having a physical relationship with them. I may have had a few relationships but I certainly don’t consider myself a “trash bag” as one person wrote re WW. I don’t have a bunch of mixed race kids to different daddies. I teach art in high school, love my job and am genuinely interested to know if anyone else has had a similar experience. I sometimes wonder if this is some kind of phase or if the old saying is true…”once you’ve had black…” its absolutely true for me – and it not about “the pipe” its about the man.

By Jacinta

August 24, 2007 11:06 PM | Link to this

I am a fun, warm, non-threatening , intelligent, educated and sexy 28 year old childless SWF ( may sound boastful but I am trying to communicate my story…not use this as a dating site…although…) I grew up in the ‘white’ leafy suburbs of Sydney Australia. I have had a half a dozen long and short term relationships with men - of various colours and backgrounds. I used to date white men but I couldn’t do it now. I really don’t know why I stopped finding white men attractive (maybe i have some underlying subconscious issues??!! I don’t know about “Self Hate”?? but even the ‘finest’ white men don’t interest me at all any more. Has this happened to anyone else? It’s frustrating at times because I feel like I am drowning in a sea of ‘suitable’ white men when all I want is a good black one for a healthy long term relationship and hopefully some babies! I hate to think of myself as that superficial that I would completely disregard the entire white male population as potential partners although that’s how my brain is wired these days….I have lots of lovely kind intelligent white male friends but i am not interested in having a physical relationship with them. I may have had a few relationships but I certainly don’t consider myself a “trash bag” as one person wrote re WW. I don’t have a bunch of mixed race kids to different daddies. I teach art in high school, love my job and am genuinely interested to know if anyone else has had a similar experience. I sometimes wonder if this is some kind of phase or if the old saying is true…”once you’ve had black…” its absolutely true for me – and it not about “the pipe” its about the man.

By A BLACK WOMEN

August 25, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

In respone to the Angry Black Women Comments. Before one can address the issue of Black womens and thier so called attitudes and baby momma drama one must first ask what the contributing factors that created these problems. If black women are crabby bit** one must first ask why are they are like that? Black women have endured so much since slavery and yet we as still holding it down. STILL STANDING. And why is our strengh not seen as a good thing. Are men so weak minded that they need a woman to act dumb so they can feel better about themselves. (Men please dont be insulted by that comment I am really trying to understand why and I could be wrong but it appears to me that men don’t like a strong woman or at least a strong black woman. If I am wrong please enlighten me because I would love to get the correct perspective on this) We take so much heat for that and I don’t understand why. It’s who we are. It’s who we had to be to survive everything that has been put before us. One of the writers said that the only thing black women are interested in is $$$ and what kind of car a man drives. O.k. what’s wrong with that. What’s wrong with wanting your man to have a car, a job, his own place. Those things speak to his character. Not to say we can’t work together and obtain what ever hopes & dreams we desire as a couple but dam if I am bringing all that to the table why is it wrong for me to want my man to at least bring the same things. Instead of looking at our strengh as a negative it should be seen as a positive. Black women have had to fight for so long.

The issue of Baby Momma Drama Who created that Phenomena? How did baby momma drama come to be. Black men who refused for what ever reason to stick around and raise the children they brought into the world. No, they would much rather spread their “seeds” around the community. A little for Keshia, a little for Karen, and a little for Gwen. It’s sad, if they stayed home and took care of what they created there would be no Baby Momma Drama.

Black women want the same things as white women, spanish women, polish women etc… We want to be respected, we what to be charished, we need someone who can be consistent. It’s in us just as much as it is any other race of women. Sadly it seems that we are the least desired group of women.

I will admit I get mad when I see a successful black man with a white women. I am a successful black women. I have somewhat secured the American dream…home, car, vacations, blah blah blah. But I can’t find (not that I am looking) anyone to share it with. I recently came out of a 10yr relationship with a guy who only had a HS dipm. In the begining that was cool I did not see it as a problem because we had a good time together but as I grew upward as we achieved what I though were our goals he seemed to decline. My education was always the topic of dicussion. Over time he would make comments like “Didnt you go to college? Dont you know how many people live in Alaska or dont you know what 348900 x 566234 is off the top of your head. Or don’t you know what time it is in London or my all time fav - “Don’t try to treat me like one of your clients.” The sad part is that once I come home I am plan old me. I don’t down or over talk anyone. When I am with my friends and family I’m just me.

It just appears to me that Black women can’t seem to win. I just think that it is really said that black men can’t see the power and strengh we bring. We are lossing ground as a people and in my opinion it’s because the Black Family is becoming none exsistant. I just wish we could get it together at every level. Whether you are a black family that has a combined income of $20,000 for $200,000 if you are working together there is nothing and we can’t do.

Where do we start?

I think people both black men and black women need to look at our history. Look at all the contributions black people have made in this country. It was a black women who raised MLK. It was a black women that raised Malcom X. It was a black women Rosa Parks, the list goes on….James Baldwin,George Washington Carver, Madame C. J. Walker, Elijah McCoy, Robert Abernathy, Medgar Evers, Marcus Garvey, W.E.Dubois, Ralph Ellison, Langson Hughes, Benjamin Banneker. All raised by STRONG BLACK WOMEN. Just think where we would be as a people if we came together as a people. It was a black women that MLK came home to. What was in Corretta is in todays black women. Sadly what was in MLK does not appear to be in today’s black men. I hope that my comments are not viewed as male bashing. I love my black men and I love my black family I just think we need to come together. We seem to be the only people that don’t do that well. As soon as black men make a little $$$ they are looking for other than a black woman to call his wife. I am sure these comments will be viewed as racisit but so what. Jewish people tell thier children “Bring home a nice Jewish Boy” White people cut their kids out of thier Wills if they marry the wrong type. But when black people subscribe to the same notion we are racisist. I’m all in support of “If he cant use your comb don’t bring him home.”

Bottom line is this, we are losing ground as a people. We are inherently successful (Key word INHERENTLY) people. We need to come together and save the Black Family.

By JAYSANA

August 27, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

This is so sad how black men just degrades sistas. i remember me and my best friend,who is biracial told me black men considered light skin women sexier than dark skin black women. i told her that she was considered as a artificial white women and in years to come black men are going to want the real thing,I sure did guess that one right. I saw this hatred that black men have for me and otha sistas years before interacial dating became so popular. alot of black women disliked me for speaking negative about black men all the time its funny how now black men are doggin our asses and now my sistas want to take shots back. Honestly us black women should have been letting black men know how we felt from jump.i kinda blame black women for sticking with black men all this time when we saw up close the hatred these low lives had for us.

By Tiffany

August 27, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this

Black men who date white women. Date them because white woman let them do whatever they want. White women don’t push black men hard the way black women do and why should she, of course she don’t think he’s capable of much anyway.

By God

August 31, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

God I feel so disgusted when I see a black man with a white girl I mean damn it just doesn’t look good at all. They need to go back to the jungle and mate with monkeys…ugly crap

By Shannon

September 1, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

I date white women because I want to, simple as that. No issues with black women, i’ve never even dated one. I’ve just always found white women more attractive and usually had more in common with them. I like what I like, end of story.

By Shannon

September 1, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

I date white women because I want to, simple as that. No issues with black women, i’ve never even dated one. I’ve pretty much always found white women more attractive on average and usually had more in common with them than any other group of women. That’s what I like, end of story. My preference is not an insult against anyone else.

By shawn

September 1, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

I date white women because I want to, simple as that. No issues with black women, i’ve never even dated one. I’ve pretty much always found white women more attractive on average and usually had more in common with them than any other group of women. That’s what I like, end of story. My preference is not an insult against anyone else.

By tgwt7yi

September 3, 2007 4:04 AM | Link to this

here’s what i’ve observed if anyone is interested: i grew up a hispanic female in a black neighborhood and was the hair envy of most of the little black girls there. i had my pick of the black boys in the whole damn (disrepaired) city…as an adult, i observed black men walk RIGHT by my beautiful black friends and go straight for pretty much anyone who wasn’t black (including me)…my white girlfriends who dated black men, three to be specific, ENJOYED the resentment black women displayed upon seeing them walk into a place on a black man’s elbow. no kidding here, they actually enjoyed it. (something i always thought to be pathetic, but hey, thats only my personal opinion)I also observed that these white friends of mine were very much disrespected by these particular black men they were involved with (not saying all black men are like this, i am commenting on what I, me myself and I observed). maybe in some other parts of the world black guys are different, but in southern california, chicago, las vegas and arizona (all cities which i’ve lived) this is what i observed. what i personally observed is that black guys wanted pretty much anyone who wasnt black.

 

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