By Deirdre

August 22, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

“And people. Please play nice. The topic of Vick tends to raise people’s hackles.”

Speaking from experience, good luck with that one, Rodney! :-)

By scottbravesfan

August 22, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

How does Vick still make people get upset and defend him? The guy pleaded guilty and said he did it. It’s over. I understand black people wanting a sports hero to look up to but there are a lot better choices in the NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL than this guy. I have two Vick jerseys, I wish I would have bought Dunn ones now because at least that guy gives back to the community and is a Saint. If you want a black sports hero, look at Torri Hunter, Ryan Howard, Jimmy Rollins, Ken Griffey Jr if you like baseball. If you like football Donovan McNabb, basketball look at Dwight Howard, if you like hockey look at Jerome Iginla. Tons of good black role models out there for not only black kids but kids of all racist to look up to.

By Whatever

August 22, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

Why aren’t there ever any documentaries on the children that are mauled by pitbulls that are family pets, not raised to fight, but just haul off and maim a child? Why doesn’t the animal planet follow up and find out about the rehab those children have to go thru? The financial hardship of the reconstructive surgery and anger that a dog raised from birth, sometimes even still a puppy, all of a sudden just snaps because…well…because its a darn dog.

By DHD

August 22, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

There’s a freakin Vick story EVERY day in this fish wrapper. Amazing.

By Deirdre

August 22, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

Whatever…why do you think pitbulls maul children? Because they are raised to be aggressive by their owners. Most dogs, raised by responsible and caring people would not maul ANYTHING without provocation. It is rarely the dog’s fault and almost always the human owner’s.

By Whatever

August 22, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this

Cut the crap Deirdre, its PET pitbulls mauling and maiming kids. Dogs that parents got as newborn pups, raised in a house, but just one day decide…..to be a DAMN DOG. However the difference in damage is extremely wide from a darn cocker spaniel. You sound like one of those nuts that will kiss a dog on the mouth and put clothes on the dog and think its listening to you.

By PitOwner

August 22, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

I got a pitbull mix. 75 pounds of lick your face fury.

dogs are what you train them to be.

By Deirdre

August 22, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

Dogs are the reflection of their owners. Well trained and well cared for dogs do NOT attack people. Open your closed mind to the FACT that PEOPLE are responsible for their dog’s behavior. You’re obviously a dog hater so nothing will convince you otherwise.

BTW..name calling and character “mauling” doesn’t make for a very good argument on your part. Perhaps more people would listen to you if you stuck with the subject and quit attacking the person. I would never put clothes on a dog…or kiss one on the mouth. I have NO idea WHAT that has to do with a discussion about properly training dogs.

By Michelle B

August 23, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this

We need to get our priorities straight. There are children all over the world that are starving and been abused. Yet we are still focus on Mike Vick’s dog. If Michael Vick wasn’t a superstar this story would have been long forgotten. Years ago in the South during segregation when attack dogs were used on African Americans where was the outcry then. We need to get over this dog story.

By Larry

August 23, 2008 12:09 AM | Link to this

Whatever, you’re garbage; and, your opinion doesn’t matter a DAMN bit.

Michelle B, you’re right; but we can do something about these dogs. So many of the children you quite rightfully care about are simply beyond our ability to help. It’s better to do something than to just wish you could do something else.

By Larry

August 23, 2008 12:12 AM | Link to this

Whatever, you’re garbage; and, your opinion doesn’t matter a DAMN bit.

Michelle B, you’re right; but we can do something about these dogs. So many of the children you quite rightfully care about are simply beyond our ability to help. It’s better to do something than to just wish you could do something else.

By Larry

August 23, 2008 12:13 AM | Link to this

Whatever, you’re garbage; and, your opinion doesn’t matter a DAMN bit.

Michelle B, you’re right; but we can do something about these dogs. So many of the children you quite rightfully care about are simply beyond our ability to help. It’s better to do something than to just wish you could do something else.

By Juss Tice

August 23, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this

Vick should be ‘nutted’ and deported to the Sudan, where he can live the rest of his herpetic life. Appropriate for an uncivilized unevolved ebonics-spewing thug-felon.

By Montana_animalluvrr

August 23, 2008 12:46 AM | Link to this

Micheal Vick is a complete turd! That “man” makes me sick. What kind of person do you have to be to treat poor, innocent, animals that way? He is a menace and deserves a more harsh sentence than he got! Words cannot begin to express the anger and I feel towards this man! Anyone who uses animals for sick purposes deserves all they get! I hope he will be unable to legally own another animal again, ever…

By Montana_animalluvrr

August 23, 2008 12:48 AM | Link to this

Micheal Vick is a complete turd! That “man” makes me sick. What kind of person do you have to be to treat poor, innocent, animals that way? He is a menace and deserves a more harsh sentence than he got! Words cannot begin to express the anger and I feel towards this man! Anyone who uses animals for sick purposes deserves all they get! I hope he will be unable to legally own another animal again, ever…

By Montana_animalluvrr

August 23, 2008 12:49 AM | Link to this

Micheal Vick is a complete turd! That “man” makes me sick. What kind of person do you have to be to treat poor, innocent, animals that way? He is a menace and deserves a more harsh sentence than he got! Words cannot begin to express the anger and I feel towards this man! Anyone who uses animals for sick purposes deserves all they get! I hope he will be unable to legally own another animal again, ever…

By TBOZ

August 23, 2008 1:52 AM | Link to this

You are the nut, thinking Michael Vick is the first person who ever did such a horrible thing. And also, they are people who are out here in the world killing, raping, molesting our children…who are far, far worst that Mike Vick. I would rather him out of jail repenting for such terrible acts, than pursuing such efforts of this type of crime. There are persons of all races and nationalities suffering from starvation and abuse…REMEMBER PEOPLE, not ANIMALS should come first……Who is more inhumane an animal killer or a people killer. Please don’t say they are equal. CHECK YOURSELF PLEASE…think before you put stupid thoughts out there.

By TBOZ

August 23, 2008 2:18 AM | Link to this

You are the nut, thinking Michael Vick is the first person who ever did such a horrible thing. And also, they are people who are out here in the world killing, raping, molesting our children…who are far, far worst that Mike Vick. I would rather him out of jail repenting for such terrible acts, than pursuing such efforts of this type of crime. There are persons of all races and nationalities suffering from starvation and abuse…REMEMBER PEOPLE, not ANIMALS should come first……Who is more inhumane an animal killer or a people killer. Please don’t say they are equal. CHECK YOURSELF PLEASE…think before you put stupid thoughts out there.

By shelly

August 23, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this

Interesting comments on both sides. I have to add some actual experience with training pits. I had two puppies dumped on my farm…half starved. I raised them to be my dogs. I am a good dog trainer. Never had a minutes trouble with other breeds. I introduced them properly to the pack and gave them a firm but gentle hand while giving them obedience training. They were the sweetest face-licking dogs you could imagine.

BUT When they reached a certain age, they started aggressive behavior that I couldn’t control. They killed my cat. For fun. They attacked my 10 year old poodle. They killed all (read ALL) my laying hens and guinea hens. Dug under the fence and killed them all in about 5 minutes. For fun. They sat in the pen, wagging their tails and grinning at me, like “see what I did? Aren’t you proud?”

Pits are bred to be destructive. No amount of training can make these dogs safe. It’s like leaving a loaded gun laying around. It’s safe as long as nobody messes with it.

So, face licking, sweet dogs? Absolutely. Random killers? Without a doubt. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.

By Ban PitBulls

August 23, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Thank you shelly Pitbulls were bred from their beginning to be aggressive and they are no different from any wild animal that simply can’t be trained out of their natural aggression. This so-called “special” is just more propaganda to equate these dogs with sweet cuddly retrievers. NOT. Do a special on that Asian woman that got her face half bit off when that pitbull jumped her last year. The child was just walking their pet when the PET went nuts and almost killed that poor woman. Where is that special show??

All of these people calling Vick names will be eating some animal today that got treated far worse than any dog from Bad Newz Kennels. You might wanna check your false anger (which doesnt have anything to do with dogs, you racist hatemongers dont fool anybody). They sure dont kiss cows before they get banged over the head with that big hammer. They dont give chickens a shot before they get their heads chopped off. Pigs aren’t laid on a soft pillow and song a lullaby before they get gutted. So all the hypocrites calling Vick cruel really need to just admit its not about dogfighting at all. You are too transparent.

By Deirdre

August 23, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Ban Pitbulls….so what are you saying? That it was ok for Vick to illegally put some dogs in a ring and watch them tear each other to bits? Just because the dogs were “bad”?

To quote you: “Pitbulls were bred from their beginning to be aggressive…”. The point that I have been trying to make is that people created this animal. People make money from this animal…illegally. People encourage this animal to be aggressive for their own entertainment and to MAKE MONEY.

So…was it ok for Vick to illegally put these animals into a pit and watch them tear each other to pieces for his entertainment and to increase his wealth?

By Deirdre

August 23, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

A long time ago..back when I was a teen and babysitting, one of my clients owned a Doberman Pinscher. Back then(close to the dark ages) Dobermans were bred to be guard dogs. They were generally, as a breed, pretty nasty…aggressive and defiantly loyal to their owner. Because of that, they earned themselves a terrible reputation. The people who breed Doberman’s finally figured out that they needed to stop the aggressive traits and make them more of a family dog. It took about 20/30 years but they have been successful.

Why did they stop breeding Doberman’s to be aggressive? Because people had stopped buying them due to their nasty reputation. It’s all about money!

Pitbulls(which isn’t the name of the breed by the way..just the description of what people make them do)make a lot of money for people by being aggressive and vicious.

In order to stop people from breeding nasty, mean dogs, it is illegal to use them for the purposes that Vick was using them.

With luck..in the future…the aggression can be bred back out of them…but only if people who use the dogs for fighting are brought to justice.

By Ban Pitbulls

August 23, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Do the research Deirdre, the breed came into being by genetic manipulation. One of the traits was strength and aggression. You can’t “breed” back out what was there in the creation. That’s like trying to “breed” the cannibalism out of a lion. Not gonna happen.

Vick didnt plead to dogfighting. The government never said he put any dog into a pit and watch them do what they would probably do if you were just walking down the street with one on a chain anyway. Which brings the question…so whose fault is it when dogs just fight on their own? You’ve never seen a dog, of ANY breed, just jump towards another dog and they go at it? Yeah, it happens..know why? Well….ITS A DOG.

By Deirdre

August 23, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Exactly! Do YOUR research. Doberman’s came into their aggression through genetic manipulation. If it can be bred in, it can be bred out. PEOPLE created the aggressive pitbull…PEOPLE can un-create it and turn it back into what it originally was..the American Staffordshire Terrier.

Dogs have always been territorial and always will be…that’s where owner responsibility comes into play.

So who’s fault is it when dogs just fight on their own…the owners fault. Just like it was Vick’s fault that he was raising dogs TO fight rather than NOT to fight.

And BTW…I had no idea that lions are cannibals…never heard of one eating it’s own kind. I WILL have to research that one!

By Johnny Swift

August 23, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

A sure sign of an incipient serial killer is abuse of animals. So, Vick is either such a creature who got nipped in his bud, or he is simply a half-step above a gorilla in his evolution. Either way, he is sub-human vermin who deserves extreme punishment, including but not limited to incarceration, castration and ostracism.

By Dogs are just Dogs

August 23, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Johnny Swift, just because YOU people have that issue, dont try and paint it on everybody else. Dogs are dogs. You are obviously one of those people who thinks your dog talks to you, that makes you the Son of Sam type, not Vick and not anybody else who knows an dog from a person. Just because you have unnatural relations with a canine, doesn’t make it normal.

By Robert L. Powell

August 23, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

I am sick of the white racist news media making Vick look like some kind of monster when in fact there was a time when white people treated Blacks much worst then dogs. I will never watch another Falcons game and will encourage all the people I know to do the saame.

By Ban Pitbulls

August 23, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Amaya Hess, Paula Ybarra, Scott Warren, Daniel Decembre, Alan Hill, Nick FOley, Angela Silva, Georgia Rice, Stephanie Nilsen

Where’s the special on them? Where is the sympathy for people attacked by family PETS? Worried about some darn dogs instead of people. Its not Vick who needs to be in jail, its you mongrels who think a dog is your equal who need to be locked up. dogsbite.org

By Former Season Ticket Holder

August 23, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Thank you Robert Powell Don’t worry, many blackouts await the Falcons and these hateful, vile people who could care less about dogfighting have exposed themselves for the hypocrites they are. Do you see them getting up in arms over any other alledged dogfighting ring? Nope. They don’t care about it, they just wanted to see another negro lynching.

By Deirdre

August 23, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Again I ask…so was it ok for Vick to break the law, have dogs put in a ring to mutilate each other…all for money? There can only be a yes or no answer to that question. Doesn’t matter that Vick is black, purple, red, white or blue…was is ok for him to break the law?

By dog in the fight

August 23, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

I am not going to post this acting like I am all knowing and never wrong about pitt bulls. Our family took in a pitt bull puppy. A friend of my daughters was going to throw him out as mother stopped nursing him and we have a large fenced yard so we let him stay for a ” few days ” until a home could be found. He has been here a year and a half now and never, ever has come close to even once biting family, friends, our other dogs or visiting dogs. A friend has a large male boxer we “babysit” when they travel and absolutely no problems. I gotta believe it’s largely the bad owner arguement Deidra poses. The worst dog bite I ever got was from a mutt about the size of a beagle. Maybe it is publicized more when a child is bitten by a pitt bull instead of a poodle.

By Former Season Ticket Holder

August 23, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Deirdre, dont try the psycho babble. Was it ok for people to break laws for the sole reason of bringing attention to an unjust law? I guess in your head, NO. Hmmmm.

But to play along with your obvious attempts to “entrap”…Its not ok for someone to jaywalk or go over the speed limit or park in a space reserved for people with a handicap sticker. Its not ok to break a law simply by virtue of it being a law. But is it ok when people who break the law (which if you’ve ever gone over the speeding limit, you have) to receive considerably more punishment than people who have broken the same law? For exactly the same charge based on the same circumstances, do you know the number of people in federal prison and the length of their sentence compared to Vick’s? Bet you don’t. But the number is 0, zero, zilch. Vick is the only one serving federal time for that crime based on the particular circumstances of dogfighting. Well, his ex-friends who are serving less are too, so that makes 3.

Now where you also upset when Dany Heatley received straight probation and community service when he killed his Thrashers teammate? Was it ok that Dan Snyder was killed and is buried and Heatley received probation? Do you even care? No you don’t. You only care about the black man that gave his friends money to start a business that became a dogfighting venture. You don’t care that a white man is home while as a result of his actions, a mother won’t hug her son anymore. No, you care about “the law”. yeah, sure you do. “The law”, yeah, that’s your concern. Its not the law you are concerned with, it doesn’t matter to you that a law was broken, just the law-breaker. You are typical.

By Xlax

August 23, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Please, Former…” they just wanted to see another negro lynching.” That’s beyond a reach. He plead guilty to a heinous, vicious, illegal crime. The sentence was not arbitralily handed out due to Vick’s race. He was punished for a crime. The real losers are the obviously the animals themselves.

By Fomer Season Ticket Holder

August 23, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Xiax, so who lost when Dany Heatley walked out of court and got in a car and went home after his sentencing for vehicular manslaughter? Dan Snyder? Dan Snyder’s mom? Dan Snyder’s dog? Who lost then? Does it matter to you? Oh no, Dany Heatley has the protection of his complexion, so you “understand”.

By Deirdre

August 23, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

Actually..yeah…I thought Heatley should have had the book thrown at him. And since you don’t know me from Adam…you don’t know WHAT I care about. Stop making assumptions based strictly on the fact that we don’t agree on Mr Vick’s punishment.

And are you suggesting that Vick broke the law JUST to show what an unjust law SOME people think it is? Cuz..if that’s the case…that’s pretty risky and stupid in my opinion.

It’s not ok to break the law PERIOD!!!! I think people who use handicap parking without a permit ought to be forced to sit in a wheelchair for a month.

I know a guy(white by the way) who was sentenced to six years in prison for tax evasion. This guy had an accountant….had no idea that the accountant had falsified info on his taxes. Know how much time the accountant got??? Zero! Happens all the time.

And maybe you don’t remember all the details on the Heatley trial but Dan Snyder’s folks told the judge that, in their opinion, justice would not be served by putting Heatley in prison. So actually…he had the protection of the victim’s parents.

By Xlax

August 23, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Former season ticket holder, I agree 100% w/you. Heatly should have gone to prison for vehiclar manslaughter. For a long time. Justice was not served in his case. To anyone especially the Snyder family. Okay, what about the Super bowl killings in Atlanta a few years back with Ray Lewis? Did justice also get served there? Did Lewis walk because of the color of his skin? IMHO, the famlies here were also not served justice. It’s just not a black or white issue here though. Unfortunately, sometimes out justice system makes huge mistakes. Sometimes they get it right. I think in the Vick case they got it correct.

By Deirdre

August 23, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

Here’s a copy of a news article dealing with the Snyder’s feelings about Heatley:

Heatley Sentenced to 3 Years’ Probation By RAY GLIER

Published: February 5, 2005

ATLANTA, Feb. 4 - The mothers of Dan Snyder and Dany Heatley shared a long, emotional embrace in a crowded Fulton County courtroom Friday, a symbol of how the bond between families rescued the hockey career of Heatley, a star forward for the Atlanta Thrashers.

Heatley, 24, had been charged with vehicular homicide in the death of Snyder, his Thrashers teammate and friend, after a crash in September 2003. He pleaded guilty to lesser charges Friday and was sentenced to three years’ probation and fined $3,000.

Paul L. Howard Jr., the Fulton County district attorney, acknowledged that the reluctance of LuAnn and Graham Snyder, Dan Snyder’s parents, to seek prison time for Heatley weighed heavily on his decision to drop the charge of felony vehicular homicide.

By Xlax

August 23, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

Diedre, you’re correct. I forgot the Snyder family plead with the judge to keep him out of prison. If that waas their wish, maybe justice was served afetr all.

By BiasAmerica

August 23, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

I acually forgot about Dan Heatley. Deirdre,you are a complete idiot. What do you mean Dan Hetley “had the protectin of the victim’s parents”? What a dumb statement. He was driving DRUNK, CRASHED & KILLED HIS TEAMMATE. DUI, in case you didn’t realize it, it’s AGAINST the law. Vick should have gotten probation & HE should have went to PRISON FOR MURDER. America’s RACISM STILL ALIVE. YOU people are racist,bias, evil, unfair & full of HATE.

By AnotherDayofRacism

August 23, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Paul Howard needs to be thrown out of office. He is incompetant. Vick should have been punished, but not as severe as he has been. Dan Heatley’s punishment should have been MUCH MORE severe. Unfair treatment. Since when does families decide if a person that has broken the law & killed someone should be punished? We have laws for a reason. The laws are for EVERYONE.

By Former STH

August 23, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

Xiax, did Ray Lewis plead to murder? Did not the Fulton County DA charge him with the crime he actually committed? Obstruction? What is the usual punishment for that? Oh, its what Ray Lewis got. Oh, sorry , are you gonna move the goalposts (as you people are so prone to do) and decide that its what you THINK he was guilty of that matters? Lets see….how many posts before they bring up the Juice? Probably next.

It doesnt matter if Dan Snyder’s mom asked for leniency, a man DIED. Are you under the impression that as long as the victim’s family thinks its ok, then all convicted persons should receive such leniency?? really?? Or does that just apply here because of the obvious bias you have for a person of (cough) a different persuasion? Give. Me. A. Break.

That says it all about you hypocrites. You pick and choose, and somehow you pick the law-breaking black athlete as the monster, but the white athlete - well, he just “made a mistake”…typical.

By Deirdre

August 23, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

So Bias…am I still a complete idiot? Did you read the newspaper article or do you just remember the facts that support your position. Dan Snyder’s parents did not want Heatley to get jail time? So yes, in a sense, Heatley had the protection of the victim’s parents.

I will refrain from calling you all the names that are running through my head.

By Deirdre

August 23, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

Just so I don’t get burned at the stake…I will remind y’all that in the post at 5:29pm I said that I thought they should have thrown the book at Heatley. I also seem to remember but will have to look it up, that it was never proven that alcohol was involved in that crash…just excessive speed. I thought Heatley got off way too easy but my point was that he didn’t go to prison because of Snyder’s parents.

Wasn’t Vick also convicted of perjury? I may have that wrong but, if that’s the case, then that has a good deal to do with the length of his sentence as well.

Can one of y’all look that up…I’m getting tired of doing research. :-)

By Former Season Ticket Holder

August 23, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

So as long as the victim’s parents were okay with it, its justifiable that he received no jail time when his actions led to a human death?? Its only when the dead person’s family is upset and wants jail time that we lock up those convicted of doing harm to people? Oh…so what, if a dog wagged its tail at Vick would that mean he was punished unfairly?? Face it, you never cared one way or the other about Heatley, probably thought it was “nice” that Snyder’s mom hugged his neck, that they cried and sang a hymn and somewhere ole Dan is looking down smiling. But heaven forbid a damn dog is killed and you wanna go all Emmitt Till on the black guy. Whatever.

And to this day they wonder why on Oct 3, 1995 we cheered…..because the vast majority of the time there is no justice, but JUST US.

By Deirdre

August 23, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

OK…are ya happy now?

Here’s what happened with Heatley, according to my research. Two friends out late at night…not drunk or even drinking according to hospital records. Driving fast…way too fast for the conditions and the road…major accident…passenger is killed, driver is seriously injured.

This stuff happens all the time in Atlanta. Maybe because Heatley is famous and mostly because he was speeding, he gets charged with vehicular homicide. Many times, no charges are filed under similar circumstances…if the accident never reaches the news. When charges are filed…it’s rare that the individual goes to prison and usually only because he was drinking. According to my research, Dany Heatley wasn’t drinking(a fact established early by the hospital where he was treated for his severe injuries.)

Michael Vick committed a felony. Maybe you don’t agree with the law that he was convicted under but that is beside the point. Maybe you don’t think that a dog’s life is worth anything but enough people disagree with you to make a charge stand up in court.

And I would please like to see your documentation that NO ONE else in the country has been convicted and imprisoned because of illegal dog fighting. If my stats are right, someone in this country gets convicted of illegal dog fighting and sentenced to prison almost every month. They just aren’t famous…fame is a terrible burden for people who commit crimes…and they don’t get any media attention because convictions for dog fighting(mostly Hispanic, BTW)is kinda boring unless you’re a terrific quarterback in the NFL.

By Nobamer Nayshun

August 23, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

You know, you blackie-thugs can defan yo bro vick, but the panefull fax are these: Right now, as I happily type, a free White Man, yo stoop bro vick is a con-vick fellun; he has herpes; he be broker by da day; and he ain’t NEVAH goan play a down in een-eff-ell agin. He’s a deviated prevert an’ a diseased eboniks thug. When he gits out, he will still be a stoopid black moron. Troof hurts, doan-it, peeps?

By Nobamer Nayshun

August 23, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

I am what happens when first cousins marry.

By Deirdre

August 23, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

What would your mother say?

By Bubba from douglasville

August 23, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

All you silly people who bring up Danny Heatly let us remember that Paul Howard who is the D/A for Fulton County is a Black gentleman. He prosecuted Danny Heatly. Also let us remember that Danny Heatly goes to bed every night knowing the he killed a man. To me that would be punishment enough. In the case of the beloved no-talent (not because he is black) Micheal Vick he was prosecuted by the Federal Government and most of the charges he faced were from perjury. Marion Jones is a great example of why you should not lie to the feds. Vick also had prior issues with his honesty being questioned. A dog’s life is not worth more then a human life. And yes Heatly killed a man but two things kept him from going to jail. The family labeled as the victim and a dumba** prosecutor. Now….insert the I am a racist comments and talk about how dumb the Federal government is. Throw out all the excuse’s for Vick (lack of a father figure, being a product of his enviroment) and what other garbage you can come up with.

Nobamer Nayshun- you truly are a stupid son of a b*tch. Your daddy should have let you drip down his leg instead of inside your momma.

By Ban Pitbulls

August 24, 2008 1:11 AM | Link to this

Deirdre how slow are you? Didn’t the post clearly specify FEDERAL prosecutions? There are no other FEDERAL prosecutions involving dogfighting. Do you know the difference between federal and state jurisdictions?

Frankly I doubt anyone has ever been incarcerated over a direct dogfighting charge via the state if its their first offense. But yet, here you are justifying why human life apparently is just worth probation. Sooooo typical.

By Typical Racists

August 24, 2008 1:22 AM | Link to this

What would the AJC do if it didn’t have Mike Vick to help it sell paper. There would be no comments if it was just a show about dogfighting, but nope this network has to use Vick to get some ratings and leave it to the AJC to help promote it. Nobody cares about some dogs getting treated better than a child. Its hungry kids right now living on the street and babies in shelters, who cares what happens to a dog? Priorities are all jacked up if you can’t figure out which is important and which is not!

By Deirdre

August 24, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

When will you realize that it’s not about the dogs! It’s not about the kids! It’s not about who’s life was taken or what’s more important. It’s ALL about celebrity! This topic won’t die because Vick is FAMOUS.

Why is it important that Bonds took steroids? Why is it important that Clemons keeps denying he took steroids through overwhelming evidence? They are FAMOUS.

Why does anyone give a rats azz about Britney and her antics? Why did Paris Hilton get thrown in jail for something 1000’s of people have done and never spent a minute in jail? They are FAMOUS!

We expect our celebrities to set an example and when they don’t, the courts and the court of public opinion makes an example of them.

You can argue about a dog’s life vs a person’s life until you’re blue in the face…it won’t make any difference. Whether you think it’s fair or not, a VERY famous Michael Vick chose to break the law. I mean…how stupid is that??????

By Typical Racists

August 24, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

You aint fooling nobody Deirdre

By Deirdre

August 24, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

I love getting into discussions with people. It’s fun, it exercises the brain, it gets the old adrenalin going.

I’ve never thought that the people who disagree with my opinion are stupid or slow or even uninformed.

I’m always surprised when an argument turns personal although I guess I shouldn’t be.

I was always taught that a disagreement should be treated as a meeting of the minds…that just because I don’t share an opinion with someone doesn’t make that person an enemy.

I have been called a lot of names during this discussion…slow, stupid, racist…and I have never retaliated with anything but a respect for my opponent. I also believe that name-calling diminishes an argument and takes the power away from the discussion. If we can’t talk about this stuff without the name-calling then nothing will EVER change.

Thanks for your participation. I’ve enjoyed this for the most part. I think it’s time to let it go before it deteriorates even further. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree. :-)

By Typical Racists

August 24, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Agree to disagree it is.

By For A Buck

August 24, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

I guess doing a show on the Rooney family’s dogracing and gambling business wouldn’t be a ratings winner….. Nor would a show on Huckabee’s sons or Mitt Romney’s little problem with dogs. Nope. Cant disparage the nice white people.

Let the lynching continue.

By Ron Mexico

August 25, 2008 7:46 AM | Link to this

I like my rims real shiny…

By Big Baller

August 25, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Ray Lewis’ entourage was who was responsible for the killing in Buckhead. I still hold Ray Lewis responsible for introducing the thug element to Buckhead and ruining that area. Oh yeah, Vick should be neutered and forced to eat Purina for his entire sentence.

By FreeMikeVick

August 25, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Yall chill on Vick. It was just some dogs. He was the best think ever for the Flacons, and now whitey turn on him.

By Bad Rap Hustlers

August 25, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

Real fighting dogs cannot be rehabilitated, what do y’all think this is? You can’t take instinct out of a animal anyway let alone one that you been trying to make fight. Those Bad Rap people are hustlers! They got OVER. They examined the dogs that they then reaped the benefits from their own examination! That is a straight up HUSTLE.

By Bad Rap Hustlers

August 25, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Real fighting dogs cannot be rehabilitated, what do y’all think this is? You can’t take instinct out of a animal anyway let alone one that you been trying to make fight. Those Bad Rap people are hustlers! They got OVER. They examined the dogs that they then reaped the benefits from their own examination! That is a straight up HUSTLE.

By Axe me a ?

August 26, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

Can I axe you guys a ? Do you keep the dogs away from the churen? I know I do.

Big ups, big ups, big ups..

By Johnny C

August 26, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

To FreeMikeVick:

Do the Flacons play in Atlanta? I thought the team was called the Falcons.

Jackass!

By Thug like me

August 26, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

Yeah uh, yeah uh. Sorry bout that, just chillin like a maaa-faaa.

Now do you see how stupid that sounds coming out of someones mouth! And why you are treated like you are treated. It’s not racist if you act like a d** you get treated accordingly regardless of color.

Peace out…..

By Thug like me

August 26, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Yeah uh, yeah uh. Sorry bout that, just chillin like a maaa-faaa.

Now do you see how stupid that sounds coming out of someones mouth! And why you are treated like you are treated. It’s not racist if you act like a d** you get treated accordingly regardless of color.

Peace out…..

By Lillian White

September 2, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

but back to the topic of that ignorant animal Michael Vick. “Juss Tice” sums it all up here: “Vick should be ‘nutted’ and deported to the Sudan, where he can live the rest of his herpetic life. Appropriate for an uncivilized unevolved ebonics-spewing thug-felon.”

That goes for the rest of those embarrassing citizen thugs out there who think being a kune is soooo kewl. Go back to Africa and quit killing dogs…and the English language.

THE FREAKIN’ END!!!

By Lillian White

September 2, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

but back to the topic of that ignorant animal Michael Vick. “Juss Tice” sums it all up here: “Vick should be ‘nutted’ and deported to the Sudan, where he can live the rest of his herpetic life. Appropriate for an uncivilized unevolved ebonics-spewing thug-felon.”

That goes for the rest of those embarrassing citizen thugs out there who think being a kune is soooo kewl. Go back to Africa and quit killing dogs…and the English language.

THE FREAKIN’ END!!!

By The Truth

September 2, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this

No, Lillian White, this is not “THE FREAKIN’ END” because of the many, many racist people like you still left in this world. “Go back to Africa”—that is so old—can’t your ignorance come up with something more original? What more do you people want? This man has lost EVERYTHING and is paying the ultimate price far worst than most “people-killers”. You all are really amazing!! I only hope that Mike’s lawyer will sue these shows for using his name without his permission!!!!!!!

By Logic

September 3, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Please use logic when arguing. Saying Heatly did not go to jail therefore Vick should not have is flawed. It may point to racial inequity, but it does not absolve Vick of his crime and guilt which his owns the responsibility for. Also saying dogs are breed for this or that does not absolve a man (who knows right from wrong) from committing acts of brutality for the sake of brutality. If you are agreeable to the violence & death exhibited in a dog fighting ring then I imagine you would not understand that and need to seek the help of a doctor or pastor.

By John Mayer

September 5, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this

They don’t do stories on rashes of pampered pit bulls suddenly snapping and mauling children very often, Whatever (appropriate nick), because it’s a lie. Which means they only do such stories occasionally; the medial has learned that using the word pitbull, contrary to Horace Greeley’s famous observation, makes “Dog Bites Man” news after all. Which makes lying acceptable to many of them. Any living creature can behave unpredictably; animals are not machines. But pit bulls are LESS likely to maul children than other breeds. In England it’s known as the Nanny Dog because the breed is SO GOOD with children. My guess is you just plain hate dogs, kind of like PeTA’s Ingrid Newkirk hates pit bulls.

By Novacane29

January 27, 2009 3:58 PM | Link to this

People are we still talking about what use to be Vicks dogs???? You people kill me because, Mike Vick is a superstar he is still human, which means he does human things. I do not stand for dog fighting, but enough is enough!!! You people must not know anything about dogs, the reason for this is because every dog expert said when this all broke 2yrs ago that these dogs would never be any good to society!! Now they have made the miraculous comeback. All of these dogs were not fighting dogs, they could not have been. Then the only dog that every picture depicted was the pit with the messed up leg!!! Lets get real!!! Please stop with this crazy stuff, it has been TWO YEARS!!!! For a certain race of people your true color is shinning through!!!!

By Novacane29

January 27, 2009 4:05 PM | Link to this

People are we still talking about what use to be Vicks dogs???? You people kill me because, Mike Vick is a superstar he is still human, which means he does human things. I do not stand for dog fighting, but enough is enough!!! You people must not know anything about dogs, the reason for this is because every dog expert said when this all broke 2yrs ago that these dogs would never be any good to society!! Now they have made the miraculous comeback. All of these dogs were not fighting dogs, they could not have been. Then the only dog that every picture depicted was the pit with the messed up leg!!! Lets get real!!! Please stop with this crazy stuff, it has been TWO YEARS!!!! For a certain race of people your true color is shinning through!!!!