By Icey

November 10, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

Good Morning…I read this blog on & off from time to time depending on the topic & I really enjoy it….I would like to give a shout out to the frequent male bloggers…..I know some of u get alot of backlash from some of the female bloggers & I just want to say keep it coming….I so appreciate & look forward to what most of u have to say….no matter how harsh it may seem…So Thanks u guys..

By Cinderella

November 10, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

Favorite celebrity couple: Will Smith & Jada Pinkett. The way they remain strong together as a family is a beautiful thing. I’m not surprised when I see celebrity couples break up no matter how long they’ve been together but I would be crushed to see Will & Jada split.

By MsUnderstood

November 10, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this

HII!! Blog Fam

favorite celebrity couple is Holly Robinson-Pete & Rodney Pete.

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

Happy Friday!!

I can’t say that I learn from celebrity marriages…their issues may be the same, but the resolution to most of their problems have options that are not available to many of us. They can throw enough money at a situation to make it go away. Now, of course with that being said, there are issues that money can’t resolve, but I learn that from my friends that are married. By the time you hear about a celebrity marital problem…it’s when they’re in divorce court. But my girlfriends..you hear the struggle along the way and can look back on the situation to see when and where things went wrong….you don’t have that insight on celebrity marriages.

My role models are the ones you see everyday just trying to do the damn thing…

But given that….I would add Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton…After the Monica Lewinsky deal…you saw the estrangement between the couple and in her book she talks about how he slept on the couch for months…that’s real…because that’s real pain and not hollywood.

By Raqi

November 10, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

I never understood the celebrity hype, but here’s my take on the above:

WH & BB: You play with fire you are bound to get burned. He was not good for her at all.

BS & KF: You cannot teach an old “DOG” new tricks. She would have been a fool not to have a prenup.

PM & HM: Dignity comes with maturity.

PH & ?: What you see is what you get.

HB & GA: Who’s to say what color love is. Love is color blind.

JJ & JD: Screw what people think and go out and get your man.

The following list proves to me in some respect that there can only be one superstar in the relationship and you have to keep the public out of your business.

Mel Gibson – Married 26 years

Samuel L. Jackson – Married 26 years

Denzel Washington – Married 23 years

D.L. Hughley – Married 20 years

Dan Aykroyd – Married 23 years

By MsUnderstood

November 10, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this

^5 Raqi I totally agree. Girl send this post to ET.

By Wise Diva

November 10, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

Good morning, TGIF!

Hey Raqi, you know that is a good observation you made.

and before the E-Jacks start complaining, yes it is a total chick topic! LOL

Have a wonderful weekend everyone!!

By 4theLongHaul

November 10, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

Morning everybody. It’s FRIDAYYYYY! I don’t learn nothing from celeb couples. On a whole other level!

But I was disappointed to hear the break-up of Kimora & Russell.

By Kym aka Southern Girl

November 10, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

Good Morning All,

I dont look to celebs for relationship advice because behind the glamour is still a human being who has the same problems as everyone else just it catches more light because they are in the public eye.

But if I had to choose a celeb relationships to admire I would say

Samuel L. Jackson and Latonya Richardson

Courtney Vance and Angela Bassett

Ozzie Davis and Ruby Dee

By Cinderella

November 10, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

@Raqi- How bout Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson? I love them! Even though she’s not as big as Tom she holds her own and they’ve been married for a long time.

Or Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell. They’ve made a lifetime commitment without a marriage license. They doing the darn thang!

By aggressively witty

November 10, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

Only thing I can learn from celebrity couples is that being super rich is good. but the “allupinyourbizness” aspect of being said coupole sucks. But mostly the money makes up for it. These joe schmoes cant show me nothing about marriage that i cant pick up from any married couple I spend some time with that are “regular people”.

With all that being said the celebrity couple that I would hope to emulate in some way with my wife is ossie davis and Ruby dee. Not that they appear to be the arbiters of what a good marriage is supposed to be, but they were together for what seems like hundreds of years and they always had a glow when in interviews they would speak of each other.

By Wise Diva

November 10, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this

oh and lessons we can learn from celebs can be what NOT to do as well. Of course we don’t know what really goes on behind closed doors either.

By Sexione

November 10, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

Happy Friday Everyone!!!

I’ve never really cared about what celebrity was marrying who, or divorcing who, or creeping with who. These are regular people with regular problems like all of us (minus the money).

But if you want a good example, look at the life of Ossie Davis (the late) and Ruby Dee.

Raqi…The following list proves to me in some respect that there can only be one superstar in the relationship and you have to keep the public out of your business. Good point!!

By aggressively witty

November 10, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

LOL @ paris hilton = celebrity

This country sucks.

By 4theLongHaul

November 10, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

Well, I don’t think we can really use Celeb marriages as a learning ground because it’s just on a whole other plateau. Having ALL your business constantly before the public….every fight, every argument, etc and we as ‘normal’ folks don’t have that kind of public pressure on us. I couldn’t imagine having every incident of bickering, squabbles, etc always being broadcasted, having cameras on you (even when you don’t know it) at all times, etc.

I mean I guess you can learn from the success stories stated earlier on the blog that even with all that kind of pressure on you, YOU CAN WORK IT AND BE HAPPY. So if they can deal with it on that high scale, us mere mortals certainly can survive if we CHOOSE to make it work.

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

Wise I guess I can see the biggest lesson I learn from celebrities is if I had a million plus dollars then I would need a prenup. That’s always my question when they get a divorce…did they have a prenup. So I’m glad to hear that Britney did, but unfortunately Resse Witherspoon did not.

By Bre'

November 10, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

Greetings this morning to all…its a beautiful day out.

Cinderalla Now Kurt and Goldie are an inspiration to me.

People are people, stars or regular everyday people. Until one of them gets up and put there pants on different I could careless. My GP’s are an inspiration to me I see there ups and downs every single day for 35 years. Those in the spotlight you only see what you are allowed to see. Its good water cooler gossip that’s about it for me.

By Roseanne Rosanna Danna

November 10, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

Whitney and Bobby, they took a few cracks at it.

Brit and Kev - examples for birth control.

Reese and Ryan - No more Reese’s pieces no more.

Paul and Heather - So much cash she won’t have a leg to stand on in court.

Paris - Proof that White Trash With Money is more than just another catchy song.

Halle and Gabe - It just goes to show ya..20 does go into 40 a lot more than 40 goes into 20.

Janet and Jermaine - Forever limited to the nosebleed sections at football games.

Where’s my couple a pals Jane and Dan? Dan and John?

By Raqi

November 10, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

@Cindy: Oh yeah, I forgot about Tom Hanks – Married 18, even if he did married her less than one year after divorcing his first wife.

The one thing I just don’t get is these celebs leaving their present spouses or love interests for who ever they are rubbing shoulders with while filming a new flick. Do you think Angelina Ho-lie was worried about Brad arm-Pitt hooking with Kate Blanchett (I know she is married) while filming Babel Like “Mick Dundee” left his wife of 30 years for that no so glamorous co-star of his, that is just foul.

Were not Ossie and Ruby swingers?

By NCgirlfromATL

November 10, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

oh and lessons we can learn from celebs can be what NOT to do as well.

Don’t marry a celebrity!

I deal with regular people and their divorce mess everyday. Adding the media and the stalkerazzi to the mix only leads to more time on the shrink’s couch for the adults and the kids.

In my line of work, we have 2 rules:

Therapy works, people! lol!

By Sexione

November 10, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

Raqi…Were not Ossie and Ruby swingers?
Were they? See now that goes to show how much I care or pay attention to what these folks are doing. There’s way too much going on in “the real world” to really know or care, IMHO!!

By abc

November 10, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

The lives of celebrities don’t resemble those of normal, everyday people. Neither do their ‘relationships’. I agree with aggwit, why are these people famous? Paris gained fame from a sex video of her and her boyfriend at the time, and hasn’t done much of repute since.

Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown nutcase junkies. She can’t sing in tune and he can’t sing.

Brittney Spears and Kevin Federline Popularity based on ‘Lolita’ for her, he enjoys no popularity. Neither have any discernable talent.

Reese Whitherspoon and Ryan Philippe I read that their problems are based on infidelity. Neither act very well, but they’re cute, ain’t they.

Paul McCartney and Heather Mills Ah well, but he was a Beatle; he’s a lousy musician, decent singer, very good pop songwriter. Heather has great leg.

Halle Berry and Gabriel Aubrey She’s hot… who is that guy? Never heard of him, guess I should watch more TV.

Janet Jackson and Jermaine Dupree She’s hot… but who cares? Again, maybe I’m not watching enough TV.

By Raqi

November 10, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

Wise I agree that we could probably learn more of what not to do from most celebrities.

I feel like this when it comes to relationships, celebrity or layperson, check the freakin’ record, it speaks for itself. If your person of interest has a long history of minute-marriages tailing them, chances are you will end up being part of that tail.

If they are known for bad behavior(Bobby Brown), sexual addictions(Eric Benet), homosexuality(Al Reynolds) etc. chances are this will be the demise of your relationship.

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

But I think if a man would come at me and he’s just crossed the line of 6 figures and wanted a prenup….I probably would laugh….don’t know why….but I would!

By Just plain tired

November 10, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

Hello everyone,

Britney Spears - What was she thinking? When you take a man from another women, a pregnant woman at that what type of man do you really think you are getting.

To all the celeb ladies - get a prenup - haven’t any of you learned from Roseanne Barr or Elizabeth Taylor.

What have I learned from celebs? Avoid temptations. All those movies with you kissing and rubbing on someone everyday - hey someone may start catching feelings. Hence Angelina and Brad. Hey Angelina, I like ya girl, but what type of man do you think you are getting that cheated on his wife to be with you.

Avoid “risky” situations. However, that is a little hard for celebs - but just looking at all the breakups and so on is a lesson to learn from.

By Sunny

November 10, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

I personally could not care any less about celebrity this or that. Who really looses sleep over these things? I certainly don’t. Why are Britney and K-Fed getting so much air time. Who REALLY Cares? What an absolute waste of time to obsess over another human being. And in the celebrity marriage thing, how about Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward, 50+ years I believe. Now there’s someone to admire. Or for that fact, any couple who have committed to each other for that long deserves more recognition that the “flavor of the month”.

By aggressively witty

November 10, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

Like the great social commentator Chris Rock said, you dont have to be rich to get a prenup. Poor people need prenups too.

“If I make 50K and you decide you wanna get divorved, i am not going to go live with my momma cause you not in love anymore”

Yall got it twisted on this prenup thing. And the idea of a prenup is not just to protect what you have, but what you might earn. If you broads are smart you marrying a dude with goals and future earning potential. A prenup protects him from you taking all that too.

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

Are their divorce rate any higher than non-celebrities? I hear figures all the time…aren’t we running around 60percent these days?

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this

Happy HoliFriday To all

Celebrity Divorces just go to prove that no matter how much money you have at your disposal, people are still unhappy and just like normal (non celebrity) couples, real love and happiness is still hard to find.

By Charlotte

November 10, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

All relationships, celebrity or not, are about growth. You grow at different rates, at different directions, at different times. Sometimes, you even outgrow each other.

And then you have to decide if it is for the highest and best good of all to hang on or let go. Years ago, I let go of a wonderful fiance because I realized that I was not the right wife for the career/lifestyle he was planning for himself. Now he is happily married to someone else and I am now engaged to the right man for me.

By Foots (aka Toya)

November 10, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Just curious… Aren’t Will and Jada swingers too? Aren’t they doing the open relationship thing like Mo’Nique and her husband?

By Foots (aka Toya)

November 10, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

AggWit Then I hope that Chris had one, if his divorce rumors are true.

I was sad to hear about Eddie and Nicole. I thought that they had a lovely family. And Terry McMillan and her “man”. She certainly makes a case for not bragging TOO hard about your man.

By NCgirlfromATL

November 10, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

Agg please pass the gold pen, so I can co-sign on that pre-nup post. Because of the way NC divorce laws are set up, they aren’t as popular here. But, I’m a business owner. When I get married, don’t think I won’t be protecting that. I may have nothing but my house and my business, but that’s all pre-marital property, ie, all miiiiines! lol!

By Ghost

November 10, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

If women like Halle and Lisa Rae can’t keep their men faithful, it makes you wonder about what they’re offering in the relationship. Obviously, there’s more to them than a pretty face and gorgeous body. After while, I suppose the other 75% of what truly makes up who they are kicks in. That 75% determines whether it’ll work or not.

I suppose Halle and Lisa’s mates (or exs) are very much like any other regular guy, regardless of the fame. You know….”I’m really dating Halle, and she really likes me. Even though I don’t think we’re that compatible in certain areas (i.e. bed, traits, etc.), but I’m gonna milk her as long as I can keep up this act. I’ll be whoever she wants me to be, until she finds me out. I get along with (Susie May) much better, but she’s not famous.”

By Wise Diva

November 10, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this

Agg Witt brings up a good point.

So do you guys think that alimony is outdated? With today’s society, is it a good thing?

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

Foots I have heard that so many times about W&J that I just assume it is true. I guess that’s what it takes to keep a spouse satisfied on a certain level. Who y’all think asked for it, Will or Jada?

By Blue_Kolla

November 10, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this

What up blog…

Hmmm… Hollywood romance is just a money generator, nothing more than lifestyles of the rich and famous and those who wish to be them.

Looks like a good day to do some work and take a longggg lunch.

By Wise Diva

November 10, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

Great points, Charlotte - congrats on your engagement!

By Sexione

November 10, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

Foots….I believe you are correct. I know Will and Jada have admitted to it. Didn’t know Mo’Nique even had a husband (I knew she had twins recently).

And who would admire that unless it’s your lifestyle too. I’m not judging them or their actions, but I certainly don’t “admire” or look up to it.

By Wise Diva

November 10, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

wow, Blue Kolla, your work day depends on the blog topic too? LOL

By 4theLongHaul

November 10, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

JustMe My money’s on Jada…….

By Foots (aka Toya)

November 10, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this

Blue The money generation comment is a good point. I’m suspicious of the timing of some of the Hollywood romances/marriages too. Usually around the time a new movie opens (although why actors can’t work together without having an affair and ending up together is beyond me) or when a new CD drops, we hear about one of the parties. Some of them are true publicity stunts.

But some of them are a true testament to how love can survive through good times and bad with enough commitment. Sam Jackson and Tonya made it through infidelity and drug use. A lot of those long-term couples made it through something that would tear other couples apart. We probably could name couples like that in our families or in our churches. One lady in my church, whose husband has passed, said that she was married to him for over 50 years, but he was only faithful and good to her for his last five years on earth. How DO people make it through relationships like that unless it’s true commitment?

By Foots (aka Toya)

November 10, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

Just Me I’m thinking Jada.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

Both parties, male or female, rich or poor, should have the other partner sign a prenuptial. I think the men in the marriages stated above should go for custody and spousal support. If the situation was reversed, the women would do so. Maybe when more women are having to give their ex-spouse part of their income and child support, the family law courts and corresponding laws will take the gender bias out. Sometimes, a woman has to be treated like a man to see how unfair they are treated. I see it because I know how the men in my family have been treated in the court system. It doesn’t matter if they are good fathers, didn’t cheat, etc. They are still seen as the scum of the earth in family law court. So, women, if you are truly a feminist, you will want all laws to be fair. More men will be willing to have relationships and get married if they know the risk for a woman is just a great as their risk.

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

Morning folks!

I don’t use celebrity relationships as a learning tool for good or bad examples. But there are some couples that I hope remain together. Most have been mentioned. I hope Kenny Lattimore and Chante Moore hang in there (loving their new 2-disc set right now).

Pre-nups, depending on the circumstances surrounding my marriage I may or may not get one.

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

Foots Jada cleared up that rumor…she said they are NOT swingers…what she said she wanted to convey is that you can’t stop a man from doing anything. If he chooses to go out and sleep with another woman and can live with himself then that’s between him and his God. But it’s not acceptable to her.

JustMe So you’re still talking to Detroit???

NC So if there’s a prenup, but there are kids involved…will they still take his assets in consideration in establishing child support? This is where my online law degree fails me LOL

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Sexione

JustMe is gonna play the Devils Advocate for a moment…….

Me being the way I am when it comes to infedelity (1 and u out),

I would dare to venture that the “openess” of these kind of relationships keep the doors of sexual satisfaction “swinging” shall we say.

Now while I can’t say that I could would ever subscribe to or accept this knid of relationship, I can’t help but wonder if we are all part-time “swingers” but don’t actually participate literally. Who actually admits to a 1st time partner that they were with someone else possibly only hours before?

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Unless a spouse quit their job to maintain the household and in turn, their earning potential is decreased - I don’t believe in alimony. Child support, yes - alimony, no.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

4TLH Ya think?

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

DB w/D Not much these days.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

Tazee That’s a good point.

By NCgirlfromATL

November 10, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

Darkbeauty NC So if there’s a prenup, but there are kids involved…will they still take his assets in consideration in establishing child support?

In NC (since that’s the only place I have a license to practice and can give an opinion on), yes, the court can take separate assets into consideration when determining child support. But, that’s usually only in a situation where the plaintiff is asking for a deviation from the NC Child Support Guidelines, b/c the paying party’s income is extremely high, or they are intentionally suppressing their income. You can’t live in a $300k house and drive 2 cars and a motorcycle and say you don’t make any money, but your bills are all paid on time. That money is coming from somewhere.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

I don’t believe in alimony either. A grown person should take care of themselves financially. However, I don’t agree with child support where it is excessive where the custodial parent can live off of it. If it is excessive, anything that isn’t used for the child’s care should be required to be put into a savings account or trust fund.

I agree with P. Diddy for not marrying Kim Porter. I think she is a golddigger who lives off her womb. He would be very smart not too. What would it gain him? He has everything now. Marrying her would only open his wallet even more to her. What does she have to offer him?

By Raqi

November 10, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

I think everyone should leave with what they came in with and everything obtained during the relationship should be divided equally.

Or you can do what Eddie Murphy’s wife did, agree to a certain amount for every child that you have. She agreed to no alimony but to receive $5mil payoff for every kid….and people thought she just liked being pregnant, LOL. Talk about pimping your kids.

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

Here’s my struggle….I know that there are men who stay in their marriages because they know it’s cheaper to keep her. I have a friend who I know would have bounced if he had a prenup, but not having one made him stay. They worked through their problems and are happy now….if he had a prenup he would have been so gone….

By Sexione

November 10, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

JustMe…Who actually admits to a 1st time partner that they were with someone else possibly only hours before? Now that’s funny!!!

By Twin Diva

November 10, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

Celebrity Marriages only become real marriages in my opinion after 15 years. The fact remains we live in a society which doesn’t value marriage. This is why folks jump in and out of it. It isn’t valued nor is it sacred. So you will continue to see this until people take committment seriously.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

Jasmine I don’t think being rich should abslve a person from getting married. Being together for XX years is a long time to to be good enough to bed but not too marry.

By Laney

November 10, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

all-time fave celeb couple: Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins, by far. They obviously share a lot of the same passions - film, politics, family - but also have some important differences.

Susan, who says that in some ways Tim, a dozen years her junior, is “older and more traditional” than she is, admits their numbers gap has broadened her horizons. “When you’re with someone from a different generation it can be so stimulating. You know, Tim’s taste in music, his love of hockey - it opens you up to new experiences.” Meanwhile Tim, who is dad to two of Susan’s three children, says that in their happy romance, “Age hasn’t been a factor.”

By Wise Diva

November 10, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

hey Laney waving

I forget about those two, they MUST be doing something right because the Media leaves them ALONE. LOL!

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

I think joint legal and joint custody of the children should be the norm unless there is a “history” of domestic violence. Many women use the “I am scared of him” when he has never hit her or abused her in any way to gain an edge in the divorce.

Women, if we want men to marry us, then we should push for “fair” divorce and child support laws, publicly admonish women who cry wolf, and not take children out of their father’s lives.

For women, marriage is an advantage. For men, it is a disadvantage. Let’s work to make it an advantage for both parties.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

JustMe, in his case, he shouldn’t marry her. Why? She has shown her hand and shown him she just loves the lifestyle. Plus, she took him to court for more child support. He is handling it in the best way. Now, she is trying to get everyone’s support to get him to marry her so she can financially ruin him. He is a fool if he does. Eddie Murphy was smart in getting an iron-clad prenup.

By D Dub of the ATL Version 3.0

November 10, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

You know what I’ve learned from all these celebrity couples?

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

What happens between those couples is exactly that - between them.

I understand and recognize the importance of role models, but hanging on every action, word, or thought that someone else spews your way is ridiculous, dangerous, and above all stupid.

The life of a celebrity only applies to you if you are the celebrity.

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

Thanks NC! So,if you have a bizness and get married…a prenup will say that ownership remains with you? But they can still go after your earnings from the bizness right?

Jazz Do you think that a Multi-Millionaire man should live in mansion with expensive cars and his son should live very modestly? I would think that a real man would want his son to live at the same level he does…..without thought to the female.

By runninatl

November 10, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

Morning folk.

Jasmine’s posts have brought me out of lurkville. You get three dozen white blog roses, a free blog day at the spa (sponsored by ajc.com and Diva & Laney), a blog gift certificate for 1000 free issues of the AJC, and the blog smiley face for the day….LOL. Now back to ESPN.com….

By Raqi

November 10, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

Lionel Richie’s ex-wife asked for over $300,000 a month in support because she claims while being married to him she became accustomed to living a certain lifestyle and she wants to maintain it, at his expense, even after their divorce. I heard a “rumor” that she still lives in his house while receiving support payments but I don’t know how true that is.

But you know when you think about it, some people probably deserve large settlements and payoffs for all the crap that they had to endure while in these relationships.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

Paul McCartney was crazy for marrying Heather Mills. His children, especially Stella, could see that gold-digging tr-mp a mile away! Heather caught him at a vulnerable time because he was still missing his life love Linda. I hope the courts take his side…give her a few million, pay child support and kick her to the curb.

By SeanJohnson

November 10, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

Sup blog….Hollywood marriages to me seem more like arranged power unions…to boost carees and are more like flings than actual marriages for love. Dont really see the problem in that if thats floats ya boat..and since they are in the entertainment business…its good for business..I think the women mentioned in the marriages in above comments who have been married for a minute can actually teach average females a thing or two about marriage…i applaud them for playing their position.

By Skegee (formerly SheSpeaks formerly Skegee)

November 10, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Morning all…I don’t know how true this is but I just received this email…

REGINA KING TO DIVORCE HUSBAND?: New York Post Page Six says couple is splitting over ‘physical abuse, drug use, and extramarital affairs. (http://www.eurweb.com/story.cfm?id=29676)

By gavi1126

November 10, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Good Friday Ladies/Gents Even though I admire celebrity couples, i do not look up to them, or compare them to my life. We cannot relate at all. Also i respect celeb couples who actually do have a family and live private lives. They don’t flaunt the funk to us!

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Jasmine For women, marriage is an advantage. For men, it is a disadvantage. Let’s work to make it an advantage for both parties.

Marriage between two people who love each other for who they are and not what they have will always be an advantage for both partied. The problem is people are marrying for the wrong reasons i.e. marrying a representative of their spouse.

By Skegee (formerly SheSpeaks formerly Skegee)

November 10, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

It’s Homecoming!!!! Heyyyyyyyyy Tuskegee woo woo woo!!!!

By Thick

November 10, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this

What’s Up Blogmates

I don’t focus on celebrity relationships to learn lessons in particular, but I have notice over the years of watching TV and becoming a real music buff that celebrity couples who stay together on a life long basis such Ozzie Davis & Ruby Dee, Camila & Bill Cosby, Latonya Richardson & Samuel L. Jackson, and Jada & Will Smith are good at keeping the business out of the press. They support each other, and they have a respect for each other’s craft. I find the realtionships between them to be inspiring and even comical. I like the way they do things sometimes and allow people to make what they want of it. LOL, the swinger stuff is too funny. And shoot being in a “celebrity” relationship is just as surprising to the celebrities they are no different than you or I! They have the same experiences, fights, thoughts and emotions, their human.

Honey, my prayers goes out to all those couples who try to be married and build relationships in the spot light among paparazi. People really need to get a life!

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

Runninatl, thank you! LOL

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

Jasmine He is obvisously gaining some pleasures with her. I guess he just wants to make sure he has beautiful children then, because the “ship” is still a float and there are a few buns in the oven. He should ensure that whe the children are with Pretty-Mommy that the live the same way they do when they are with silly-diddy!

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

Darkbeauty w/Dimples, if the man can provide the children more than a modest living, why shouldn’t he get custody? And, when the child is with him, the child will enjoy his lifestyle. A real man will provide for his children, but I don’t think a court should decide at what level if it is an excessive amount. And, the mother should have her “own” income instead of staying at home and “living” off the child support.

By gavi1126

November 10, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Oh.. one thing i do learn from celeb couples..is always keep up with your man..or vice-versa.. Keep a check on them on regular basics!! Anywho..everybody have a great wkend..enjoy the warmth!!

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this

Skegee, the SIAC is okay. However, the SWAC is where it’s at! Good luck on your Homecoming.

By MsUnderstood

November 10, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this

I believe if they made it much harder to divorce people will take marriages more serious. As someone said earlier marriage is a sacred amd committed relationship between to people who love each other for better or worse. The prenup laws needs to be removed because people have more excuses to break up than to work it out. Tell me who don’t have problems? H3ll we all do and running from them won’t make it better, dealing with the problem and moving froward is the solution. It takes a lot to deal with each other in a relationship that why there is conseling so you can find out way before the I DO’s if you are as compatiable as you think.

By Skegee (formerly SheSpeaks formerly Skegee)

November 10, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this

HA! We always thought the saying was SWAC is wack… Just kidding just kidding… Thanks though, Jasmine. You didn’t go to Southern did you?

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

Justme, no marriage is not really a good deal for men. I see it and I’m a woman. Let’s see, a man and woman gets married…She decides she doesn’t want to be married anymore, has an affair, etc. In divorce court, she gets the house because they have children, half or more of his premarital assets, most of the marital assets, custody of the children and child support. He gets the shaft, most of the marital debt if not all, a large attorney bill, and a woman in his pocket until the children turn 18 or 21. Uh, who has the advantage?

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

JustMe, they do live the same with her and with him. In fact, I think they live together. He provides bodyguards, nannies, school tuition for his child and for her child by Al B. Sure. This is in addition to the child support he pays her. So, why did she need more child support? To support herself because she doesn’t want to work for a living. She is basically a surrogate living by her womb.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

Jasmine How easy is it gonna be to take 3 of Diddy’s seeds to the neighborhood Daycare? His status dictates that he children will require upon his demand I’m sure, a certain level of privacy and security. Since she’s obviously not the only one with a household name, why should all of her earned income be the only income used to maintain what his status dictates is necessary moreso than hers?

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

MsUnderstood, It shouldn’t be harder to divorce, it should be harder to marry. Counseling, financial, etc. should be required. A thorough health screening should be done. Background checks, credit report, etc.

All the cards should be put on the table. Then, a waiting period…

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

Jazz This is an interesting discussion…I’m not sure where I really fall…but fore some reason it doesn’t sound right for the man to live so lavishly and the child….only on every other weekend. But a fair law applies to all, regardless of income right? So, if the average guy has 18 percent of his salary taken for child support…why shouldn’t that apply to the rich?

It’s only excessive amounts because in their world…everything is excessive.

Again, my blog law degree fails me and I’m not sure about percentages

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

MsUnderstood, It shouldn’t be harder to divorce, it should be harder to marry. Counseling, financial, etc. should be required. A thorough health screening should be done. Background checks, credit report, etc.

All the cards should be put on the table. Then, a waiting period…

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

Skegee, need I say more? Who are you hosting for Homecoming? I must say, on my few visits to Tuskegee, the hospitality was great! I have many good friends who attended the school and it is a great university. I support all our wonderful HBCUs.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

Jasmine How easy is it gonna be to take 3 of Diddy’s seeds to the neighborhood Daycare? His status dictates that he children will require upon his demand I’m sure, a certain level of privacy and security. Since she’s obviously not the only one with a household name, why should all of her earned income be the only income used to maintain what his status dictates is necessary moreso than hers?

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

Jazz But I don’t think that the laws are preventing men from getting married….only the divorce rate is up…I don’t think there is a decline in people getting married…just in the age in which they do it. But I might need Musings stats to back this up LOL

If a man wants to get married AND married to you…he will! He won’t blame it on the divorce laws and child support laws….

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Justme, she should be required to provide for herself. If she only can contribute 5% of the support for her children, she should do so. If she has a daughter in her next birth, she should be a role model to show her daughter that even when their is sufficient funds a woman still needs to be self-supporting. She should have some pride.

Darkbeauty w/Dimples, why should the mother always have custody? We know that there are fathers who are good parents, yet they make up about 5% of custodial parents. Why? Because the family court still holds onto gender bias.

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

Jazz/MissU I agree with you both…it should be harder to get married AND divorced!

By NCgirlfromATL

November 10, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

Dark So,if you have a bizness and get married…a prenup will say that ownership remains with you? But they can still go after your earnings from the bizness right?

Depends on how you write it. You can agree to leave those earnings alone. I’ve seen some written that way.

Jasmine So, a woman who has a high school education, bore 3 kids, and didn’t work during a 20 year marriage should just fend for herself? I don’t think so. The good thing about NC is that we have fault-based alimony. So, if you cheat, and you make more money, you WILL be paying alimony. If you are the dependent spouse and you cheat, you gets nuttin! Oh, and it’s not gender based (NC). I’ve had plenty of female clients who had to pony up on the alimony and child support.

if the man can provide the children more than a modest living, why shouldn’t he get custody? The reasons why are vast, and none of them usually have anything to do w/ whether or not he CAN be a good parent. Judges are looking at the history of the marriage. Who was the primary caregiver during the marriage? Who is the child more attached to? Do both parents work? Does one parent travel for his/her job? You’ve got to stop looking at this as a male/female issue. I know everyone on this blog believes that women benefit from marriage and divorce. The truth is, no one benefits. No one wins. Especially the kids. You give up 1/2 of your stuff, 1/2 of your lifestyle, and 1/2 of your time with your kids, whether male or female, and then tell me that you’ve won anything.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Justme, Diddy provides everything for his children. So, why did she need her child support upped from $5,000 to almost $30,000? Why? For herself…

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

^5 DB w/D

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

Many men feel enslaved in marriage and then they are slaves in divorce too.

More and more, men don’t see the advantage of marrying. The number of single women has increased. Many women must choose either to remain childless or to raise children by themselves.

And after a divorce, many men are reluctant to remarry due to the financial pull the ex-spouse has on their wallet. Plus, they are reluctant to give that kind of control to anyone else.

Let’s face it…the advantage of the modern marriage is with the woman. So, my sisters, if you are not married, some of the blame lies with the establishment, the state, family court, and divorce and child support laws. Attorneys don’t want to change them because even if they practice in other areas of law, family law is their bread and butter. Plus, the divorce courts employ so many people, judges, attorneys, paralegals, court reporters, private investigators, guardian ad litems, psychologists/psychiatrists, social workers, the list goes on…

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

**Jasmine I do not disagree with her fending for herself, she has made her name in her trade as well. But what she has made of herself is only a fraction of what he had made of himself, and being that they are his children (twin girls on the way), he’s gonna expect certain thing of her for his children. He should ensure that living up to his standards does not disrupt what she can provide on her income alone. THe ordered amount does seem excessive, but I have no idea what expectations he has for his children, so while it ma seem excessive, it may be in line with what is really required to maintain a lifestyle dictatd by his fame.

By MsUnderstood

November 10, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

@ Jasmine If it’s harder to divorce then you will think tice before you married again i am standing firm on my statement to many damm!!! excuses to divorce anyway.

By Chink

November 10, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Hey Everyone

Been in Oregon (rains everyday)training coming back to ATL today :)…I hope all is good.

Don’t really think much of celebrity relationships but I am disapppointed when they fail especially when they seem so good for each other.

Have a good weekend!

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

NC I know everyone on this blog believes that women benefit from marriage and divorce. The truth is, no one benefits.

And if you come from a broken family then you’ve lived this….

By Raqi

November 10, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Speaking of celebrity hype:

A spokeswoman for Denise Richards blamed aggressive paparazzi for a run-in that prompted the Hollywood actress to toss a pair of laptops from a balcony, causing minor injuries to two elderly women….Royal Canadian Mounted Police were called to the scene as a precaution and the case was soon closed. No charges were filed against Ms. Richards.

It is disgusting what these people can get away with. I guarantee you if that had been an ordinary person like you and me, we would be staring into the face of a million lawsuit right about now. And I don’t know about yall but I don’t have a million dollars and it’s funny how people go after the ones who don’t have crazy amounts of money.

I don’t think I told yall this before, but last year when my son hurt his head, he was playing soccer in a neighbors yard and he made a quick turn tripped on the edge of the driveway and he fell back hitting his head against the car leaving a dent. Do you know the neighbor wanted me to pay for the dent and for a rental? So my sis, the attorney, told me to ask her how much was she planning to give me for allowing kids in her care to play in an “unsafe” environment and her neglecting to inform me about the incident at the time it happened. I didn’t find out about it until after my son became ill, then she wanted me to pay for the damage. The cost of the repair wouldn’t have affected my finances, but she could not have really thought I was going to pay for it.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

NCATL You done said a mouthful!

Jasmine Like I said in a previous post, I really have no idea or desire to know, but being the child of a celebrity, politician etc requires more security and privacy than my son needs. I don’t have cameras following me around, but Diddy & Kim can’t hardly walk around in public like I do.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

NCgirlfromATL, It should be that way in every state. However, many judges still practice gender bias. I don’t look at it from a male/female point of view. I am only stating what I see in family court in Georgia. Gender bias is alive and well.

By NCgirlfromATL

November 10, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

So, why did she need more child support? To support herself because she doesn’t want to work for a living. She is basically a surrogate living by her womb.

This is interesting, b/c just yesterday, the men of the blog were arguing that if the guy is a deadbeat dad, he shouldn’t be put in jail for not providing ANY support for his child. And the women should know when they laid down w/ him that he’s a deadbeat. By your logic, Diddy should have known when he laid w/ Kim that she was a “surrogate living by her womb,” and shouldn’t get anymore of a free pass than the deadbeat.

I just don’t get why people think that a child should suffer just b/c the parents are trifflin. Yes, each parent should be made to pay his/her fair share of CS based on their incomes. So, given that Kim is unlikely to ever make as much as Diddy, even if she were to go out and get a job today, (and don’t forget she was a model first, so she wasn’t exactly poor to begin with), why should the children not share in the lifestyle of both parents? Yes, I know there are those parents who will spend the CS money on weed, weaves and rims. But, at the end of the day, the child still needs a place to sleep, food to eat, and clothes to wear. People kill me with the mentality of I’m not giving her a dime when it’s the kids who end up suffering in the long run. And trust me, this isn’t confined to any one race…trifflin is universal.

Oh and Jasmine just so you know, as long as the sacrament of marriage exists, so will divorce. Divorce lawyers don’t change laws…your ELECTED legislators do. Place your blame in the right place, please.

By MsUnderstood

November 10, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

@Jasmine you are now the spokeswoman for the man LOL

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

Divorce lawyers don’t change laws…your ELECTED legislators do.

And we ALL know that the majority of these lawmakers are white males who are financially successful….so it’s the men who are doing it to themselves….not us!

Thanks for bringing that point up NC!!

By MsUnderstood

November 10, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

NC Girl

Well said Lil Ms.Johnny Cochran LOL

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

NCATL I wish I had known my sons donor would end up this way.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

Few people outside of the divorce industry know about divorce litigation. Those who do, know about the blatant gender bias…

Justme, he provides everything for her, so why did she need additional funds, so she doesn’t have to work. Simple as that…She is his baby machine…He doesn’t need a wife. She will only take from him.

By JustCurious

November 10, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

Me thinks Jasmine IS REALLY a dude, posting under a woman’s moniker..hhmmmm!!

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

Jasmine how do you know what he provides for her? JustAskin’

By Skegee (formerly SheSpeaks formerly Skegee)

November 10, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

Jasmine…I’m not hosting anyone this year…a lot of alumni live in Atlanta. I love all HBCU’s as well.

On topic: I believe, after a divorce, a lot of women want custody of the children only so they can get the child support. I’ve seen these same kids who are latch-key, their hair isn’t done, clothes in bad shape and with no extra curricular activities. Child support shouldn’t go to pay for utilities and car notes, those things would be necessary even if you didn’t have a child. If you’re having a problem paying for the necessities, let the father or the financially stable parent take the children.

At any rate…I’m out. I need to do my hair for this weekend. I’ll come back on Monday and read the comments…

By JustCurious

November 10, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

So what if it’s gender biased. H3ll, who carries that fetus in the womb? Who has to endure 9 mths. of pregnancy? Who goes thru h3ll and back to deliver? WOMAN!!!

Damm right, it SHOULD be biased!!!!

Now debate that!!!!

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this

NCgirlfromATL , many of the elected officials are “attorneys” so we can blame them. The elected officials get pressure from the women’s groups since most voters are women, especially in the Black community where many of the men are incarcerated. The male elected officials don’t want to be portrayed as anti-woman or anti-child so they go overboard.

JustMe, P. Diddy provides for all of his children’s needs outside of the child support. If she modeled once, she can do it again instead of sitting down. But that is his problem…

MsUnderstood, no, I am a woman who can see things from a man’s point of view. I have been in family court with my male relatives. They can have all the character witnesses in the world, but if the woman cries and lies, who do you think the courts believe? I have some female friends who now see what they did to their exes because now their older children have chosen to live with their father and the women are paying child support. I just think things should be based on the character of the person and not the gender.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 01:10 PM | Link to this

Raqi, those women should sue the heck out of Denise Richards.

By UT96

November 10, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

Darkbeauty With Dimples, Bill and Hillary Clinton? They are married in name only. It’s no secret they live seperate lives and are only married as a business arrangement.

Bill and Camille Cosby-now there is a great marriage.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

Raqi, I wouldn’t let my son play with her children nor let them come over to your house. I bet if her children were hurt at your house, you can bet she would try to sue you.

By MsUnderstood

November 10, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

@ Just Curious you are crazzyy!! Hey where is erybody at.

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this

Just You crazy for your 12.59 post!!

Skegee did you ever consider that the children may be in that condition because the mother is a single mother trying to do it all…

What happens if you are the more financially stable, but you’re still struggling??

And child support SHOULD go to utilities and car notes…using your logic…CS shouldn’t go to food or lodging either…you need those things as well…

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this

Skeegee Do you have children?

JustCurious You sick widdit!

By MsUnderstood

November 10, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this

@Jasmine

read the post carefully i didn’t say you wasn’t, i said you are now the spokeswoman for the man.

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

Jasmine I agree that the divorce and child support laws are unfair. But I don’t subscribe to the theory that marriage benefits the woman more than the man. Divorce does, but not marriage. Additionally, I wouldn’t push for a change in said laws as a reason to get a man to marry me. I may be in la,la land, but if I get married, I plan for it to be forever and any man I marry would think so too.

Finally, this whole thing about a woman benefitting more from the divorce doesn’t apply to me because more than likely I will be the one making the most money and I have no desire to have children. Therefore should we get divorced, I might be paying him alimony God forbid. And there are more women out there like me - so I think that argument isn’t as tight as it used to be.

By MsUnderstood

November 10, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

@Jasmine

Do you want to be with P. diddyy cuz you hating hard on the woman he chosen and still choosing to be with.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

Justme, in his court case, it was outlined what he provides in addition to child support.

JustCurious, All woman, born that way, will stay that way… And, with that thinking because we carry the child, things should be biased. No wonder some men are afraid to marry and rightfully so. A man should just get a surrogate if he wants a child. That way, he knows his cost up front and it is a one time fee. I have told the young women and especially the young men in my family to get a prenup and include a clause for custody arrangements. It is hard to include the child support because the laws change.

Skegee, Have fun this weekend!

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this

Jasmine Models do have a shelf life attached to their careers….. no? Now that she is carrying his twins how could that effect her career later on? Her expenses are going to increase as well. If he doesn’t want to marry her then he should ensure her security until THEIR children are out of college and earning their own income. Not to mention since they are still dating……. she can’t go on a date with Diddy in shoes from Payless - LOL

By NCgirlfromATL

November 10, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

many of the elected officials are “attorneys” so we can blame them. Yes, but you, as a voting citizen (I’m assuming) have the right to chose your elected officials, and the right to run for office, if you think all the lawyers in office are so evil. H3ll, these same lawyers make the laws that pave your highways, fund your schools, and put criminals in jail. But, since we lawyers are only in it for our own financial gain (as if you don’t do your job for your own financial gain), I’m sure you’d handle your own divorce, or any other legal action that came your way. My three extra years of school, student loans and a Bar license are pretty much meaningless in your world, since it’s my fault that women benefit from divorce. Good luck with that. lol! Try practicing divorce law, or any other law for that matter, before you make judgments about what I do for a living. It’s not nearly as glamorous as it is seen on tv. But, when you help a child in need, it is the most rewarding job in the world.

By Foots (aka Toya)

November 10, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this

Jasmine I’m sorry that your male relatives hooked up with such triflin, lying women. Maybe they will choose better next time.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

Jasmine You off the hormones today - LOL I just think that if he thinks enough of her to keep laying down and making babies, then he should think enough of her to marry her. It kinda seems like a slap in the face to her because I’m sure he would have jumped at the chance to marry J-Lo. I hope she has one of those palimony agreements in writing!

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

UT96 I don’t admire their marriage…it’s just one of the few celebrity marriages that you know isn’t the hollywood picture…it’s not the fantasy that we had as a little girl….that’s what celebrity marriages teach me! But again, my girlfriends teach me that lesson the best!

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

MsUnderstood, No, P. Diddy is not my cup of tea! I just don’t think it is advantageous for him to marry her. I think the whole Essence magazine cover and article is her trying to get the women to side with her to pressure him to marry her. They should’ve put Will and Jada on the cover again or a true love Black couple!

The key to a successful marriage is for both partners to be financially independent and neither wants to change the other. They must have similar moral values.

Tazzee, people should marry with the intention of it being forever. However, with fair guidelines, women (or men) who divorce for financial gain will be less reluctant to do so.

In Atlanta, there are so many women who make salaries equivalent to men or more than men. Even so, in the event of a divorce, I still see the bulk of the assets taken by the woman.

By Foots (aka Toya)

November 10, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

Do you want to be with P. diddyy cuz you hating hard on the woman he chosen and still choosing to be with.

LOL!! That’s funny!! He’s definitely still choosing to be with her AND keeps imprenating her. I think he’s cool with it.

Child support goes into the bank account like any other money and should be used to support the household, like any other money. New Versace coat? Nope. Lights, heat and water? Sure. Thank goodness that we didn’t know we were struggling after my parents’ divorce when I was little, but I can guaran-dayum-tee you, my dad was a lot better off than my mom, my sister and I.

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

D w/D you hit a key point there. I fully believe that child support should be in the form of some sort of vouchers. Rent, utilities, daycare, etc. I know of a woman that won’t keep food in the house or get her daughter’s hair done, but she’s getting healthy child support payments. Oh but her hair is always laid and clothes tight.

By JustCurious

November 10, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

Just keeping it REAL!!!

Jasmine…who cares if men are afraid to marry, then they should also keep their dingies in their pants!! They go into it with eyes wide open, just like the woman. And if all they want is a child, then pay a surrogate. And then struggle like a lot of women to raise that child, and provide for that child, and do homework, and get a babysitter, etc. But most importantly, KEPP YOUR DINGIES IN YOUR PANTS!!!! Most are out there slinging the dingies like it’s Christmas time anyway!!! If you want to play, then PAY!!

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

JustMe it seems to me that Kim keeps taking that slap in the face too. I’m not all up on their relationship, but she keeps having his babies without marriage so he’s not doing anything she isn’t allowing him to do.

Jasmine So if the man and woman make the same amount or the woman makes more, and they have no children - the woman walks away with the bulk of the assets? That’s just plain crazy if you ask me. The only way I could see that is if dude was cheating or beating - or something like that. But with all things being equal, I would think the divorce would be equal.

Hmm, learn something new every day.

By Kym aka Southern Girl

November 10, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

Good Afternoon All,

Just some information…

I posted yesterday about the Fatherhood program run by DTAE(Department of Techincal and Adult Education) if know daddies out there who say they cant pay support there are programs out there to help them find work, get their GED -if they dont have one and get training so they can get income to take care of their children.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this

NCgirlfromATL, I didn’t say “you are to blame” but most of the elected officials are attorneys, especially in Georgia. Most of the judges run unopposed because the state bar association selects who they often want.

And, I know how it feels to help a child being an volunteer. As far as running for office, I am considering that option. I am also a voting taxpayer who often goes to the state capitol to lobby for issues.

Just me,

Musicians/rappers have a shelf life too…

Child care, educational needs, medical expenses not covered by insurance are what child support is for… Most of the time, the non-custodial parent/father is given responsibility by the courts to cover the medical insurance.

The housing costs for children is based on the extra bedroom(s) the parent would need for the children’s housing. For example, if there is one child, the parent has to provide a bedroom for the child. If the rent for a one bedroom is $700 and the rent for a two bedroom $850, the cost needed for that child is the difference which is $150, not the entire cost of housing. Electricity, groceries…the additional cost of heating the extra bedroom(s), and additional grocery cost would be included. The cost of gas would be the additional expense to travel to take them to and from school/daycare.

Tazzee, you are right. Divorce does provide more of an advantage for the woman.

By Foots (aka Toya)

November 10, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

So if the man and woman make the same amount or the woman makes more, and they have no children - the woman walks away with the bulk of the assets?

Tazzee I think that this was an exaggeration on Jasmine’s part. I know of a situation right now where the divorced parties have opted to agree how to split the assets so that everything is equitable. She’s taking what she brought in, he’s taking what he brought in and they’ve figured out how to split the rest. I guess the reason lesson for today is MARRY CAREFULLY.

By JustCurious

November 10, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

JustMe…I just think that if he thinks enough of her to keep laying down and making babies, then he should think enough of her to marry her. That’s the main point right there. No matter HOW she is, he is still laying up with her, knowing what he’s getting and doing. If it’s so unfair, then zip it up, and go home!!!

Why is it that the majority of the men that seem “scared” to get married are our men?? But, they don’t mind laying up with us (and yes, we are allowing it) and making babies. Celibacy looks real good from this view!!

By Foots (aka Toya)

November 10, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

Dang Jasmine (1:48 post)! Just how often ARE your male relatives in court for you to be able to provide a breakdown like that???

By JustCurious

November 10, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

Has anyone noticed that there are NO men in the room???

Now I KNOW Jasmine, the spokeswoman for the man, IIIISSSSS the man!!! lol

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Justme, she is the fool. Too many women lie with trifling men and then blame the men. She is choosing to stay and I bet it is because of the money and the lifestyle.

Tazzee, In Georgia, I have seen it happen. I have seen it happen even when the woman cheats! This is definitely the state to get divorced in other than California.

Kym aka Southern Girl, I think the fatherhood programs are good. Most of the fathers are poor fathers. The government provides assistance for poor mothers to help their children, so it is only right to assist poor fathers. In the end, let hope the children are the winners.

By Roseanne Rosanna Danna

November 10, 2006 02:04 PM | Link to this

What’s alla this talk about babies?! I thought we were talking baout celibate couples?!

By JustCurious

November 10, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this

I just read that Al Quaida has vowed to blow up the White House (the filthiest house in the land). And they are happy for the Republican defeat. Wouldn’t it be something if the republicans were responsible for this threat (seeing as how they’ve lost control of the House and Senate and Congress)?

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

Curious Shhhhhh….speak no evil..say no evil!!

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

Foots (aka Toya), That is because they are mature and fair adults. Many times, once the woman sees an attorney, the attorney shows her what she get and bam! The battle begins… NCgirl, that isn’t the case with all attorneys, especially if they have extensive training in mediation…

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

Jamine Marriage shold be one of thoes moral values you speak of! Yes musician do have a shelf life…. it’s as long as they keep making records that will sell. The tours usually pay for them selves plus a sizeable profit for the entertainer if they choose to go on tour.

But we all know Diddy is more than just a musician, he is also a business man who has business ventures in several different arenas from is record label to his clothing line to his resturants, so his shelf life in terms of music may eventually peak, but what about his other business interests?

Tazee You are right on with your comment, so I guess she making sure that when he is done playing, she won’t be left out in left field raising his kids on her income alone.

Kym you forgot one important issue to include……. Her earning potential. When you have children in the home, you can’t take evry job that you are offered. You have to accept what aloows you to be a parent FIRST then an employee.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

Foots (aka Toya), The are in court a lot…there is one uncle who raised his daughter but still had to pay his ex-wife child support. He kept taking her to court for custody but was spending so much in attorney fees and not getting anywhere. So, his ex-wife agreed to let him raise his daughter as long as she got her “child support” check. There is another uncle who raised his son by a former girlfriend who never received a penny of child support from her. He later found out the child wasn’t his biological child…I have more…

JustCurious, even I had to laugh at your comment…

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

Jasmine I don’t necessarily agree with what she is doing, but THEY are doing it. Maybe they really love each other and this is their way of keeping her financially secure without the bonds of marriage. Maybe he wanted more children and decided that it would be easier to have them with someone he’s already paying vs a new surrogate?? Who really knows besides them and their attorneys?

By Kym aka Southern Girl

November 10, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

Jasmine the government provides training programs for men and women, fathers and mothers. The Workforce Act has training offices set up in every state in the union but in Georgia we have 20 area offices. They provide free training to anyone who is underemployed, unemployed, who is willing to put in the work. The training is normally in a program that will lead to a two-year degree..be it as a LPN, auto mechanic, construction worker, truck driver, etc.. What happens is that most people dont take advantage of the training and the money goes back to the feds.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

Bobby Brown is a good example of an entertainer who is a deadbeat dad, and then there is Andre Rison, did he ever get caught up on his CS or is he still living and working out of the country?

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

I’ll try it again….

Curious Has anyone noticed that there are NO men in the room???

Shhhhhh, speak no evil…hear no evil!

By MsUnderstood

November 10, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

Jasmine cool off girl it the weekend. Everybody have a good weekend. My time is up for today. SEE YALL MONDAY!!! Oh yeah stay way from downtown this weekend!!! AWARD SHOW BADD TRAFFIC!!

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

Can GA courts order as part of CS that either parent take part in those training courses? If not, they should be able to. Then if the parent does not participate in the training, they should not be further excused from their responsibility.

By NCgirlfromATL

November 10, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

The key to a successful marriage is for both partners to be financially independent and neither wants to change the other. They must have similar moral values.

Really?!? So, that’s why Nick Lachey and Jessica Simpson are still married? Financial independence is not the key to a successful marriage. How about respect, honesty, trust, love? If you’ve got that, generally, whether or not one is financially independent doesn’t matter. It’s ehen one of those things breaks down that marriages end in divorce.

By Distressed

November 10, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

Ok, I have an issue that’s a little off topic, but I REALLY need some advice. My husband and I have been married for almost 4 years. We separated about a year ago, but have been back together for 6 months. Anyway, since we’ve been back together I’ve had a feeling that something was not right with him. I decided to start checking his email account (yes, I know that’s an invasion of privacy, but I had a gut instinct that something was wrong) I found that he has been exchanging emails with a co-worker. I did not see what he wrote her, but she has said “I love you” at the end of a few of her messages. Part of me wants to confront him now, but another part wants to gather more concrete evidence that something’s really going on. What do you think?

BTW, I know this woman and she knows that he is married!

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

Kym aka Southern Girl, I wonder if the word is really getting out about the training programs. That is a disadvantage if the money is going back.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

JustCurious, We scared the men away with the talk of “Marriage”!

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

I must say that if I were a single mother, it would be VERY difficult to work in my current field. So your earning potential point is right on the money JustMe.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

Distressed Without seeing his comments you do not know the whole story. I would say keep your eyes and ears open. Does this coworker know that you two are back together? He may be deceiving her too.

By abc

November 10, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

Musicians do NOT have a shelf life. Media stars have a shelf life, subject to radio playlists and lack of much actual musical talent or creativity. Examples? Name anyone on the radio or TV. Mostly a bunch of singers, and by definition, a singer is NOT a musician.

Musicians typically don’t get rich. They’re lucky if they’re middle class. That’s because the media stars don’t pay them all that well.

The reason Nick Lachey and Jessica Simpson didn’t work out has nothing to do with financial independence or morals and whatnot. They just weren’t/aren’t grownups yet. In order for a marriage to work, it’s best that both parties be actual adults — that’s different from being of legal age.

By Kym aka Southern Girl

November 10, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

Can GA courts order as part of CS that either parent take part in those training courses? If not, they should be able to. Then if the parent does not participate in the training, they should not be further excused from their responsibility.

JustMe at some point in our adult lives we have to take personal responsiblity. Courts can order all the programs in the world but at the end of the day if the person is not willing to put in the work then what is the point.

By Raqi

November 10, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

I hate the child support debates and I will never put a price on my kid but it ain’t cheap to raise them. Since my kid is a CS recipient here’s my .02 worth:

School Tuition and Uniforms- $17,650 yearly divided by 2 = $8,825.00 (my half)

Soccer Uniform and Cleats - $260.00 annually

Everyday Wear - $600.00 annually

Food – $4,000 annually (This does not include when his friends are over or I take them out)

Utilities - $2,100.00 (I average about $8,400 a year in utilities so his share would be 1/4 of that being that he takes showers for 20 minutes, he goes off and leave the lights, computer and television on for no reason, he leaves the door open, plus his humidifier runs all night during the winter)

Braces - $4,500.00 (This year) divided by 2 = $2,250.00

Useless miscellaneous items, gadgets and trinkets - $300.00 annually

None of this includes the time spent for nights I don’t sleep because he is ill. When he gets sick while at his father’s, either I get 100 phone calls or he brings him home to ME. The time it takes for me pick him up, drop him off or put up with cleaning up after him and his friends.

All of this is what I pay out of my pockets and I am being modest with costs. I am just an ordinary everyday person so you can imagine what it would take for a celeb’s kid.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

Distressed, During your separation, he probably dated others. Did you date anyone? When you agreed to get back together, did you discuss this and agree to stop seeing people others if this was the case?

I know you suspected something but he may see your snooping as a reason not to continue in the marriage. However, you did find evidence of something. It could be he dated her during your separation, told her he is back with his wife and she won’t take no for an answer. It could be he didn’t cut things off and is allowing her to contact him. I understand you being upset because he works with her and probably sees her everyday.

By Kym aka Southern Girl

November 10, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this

Okay shameless plug time but if it gets someone a job or in training then it is worth it.

Jasmine I know for fact that Dekalb Works is in the DFACS office every week with information on the training programs, and that the Fatherhood program is at every job fair held by the department of labor. Also the Atlanta Workforce office holds a job fair every Tuesday morning starting at 8am. The Atlanta workforce office evens offers babysitting servicesfree if there is space available.

By Randy

November 10, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this

The only lesson to learn from celebrities is, if you want to be happy, don’t be a celebrity.

By Distressed

November 10, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this

JustMe She knows we’re together. I just met her for the first time three weeks ago! I’m definately keeping tabs on this one…I think I’ll just play it cool (or try to anyway) until I have some better evidence. Any more advice?

By Darkbeauty w/Dimples

November 10, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

Oh Stressed Distressed! I’ve been there before with a boyfriend….

What else is in the content of the email? I don’t know if I can flip out just because she’s signing at the bottom I love you….If the emails are stating…last night was the best night of my life…then I’d try to move on. I know that you’re creating an environment that will breed mistrust and suspicion. You already start painting a picture in your head of what’s going on and anything you find will fit into that fantasy. You feel an addictive urge to keep going back to see what you may find….Try and chill on that…

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

Kym aka Southern Girl, Plug on…

Raqi, Children are expensive that is why it should take “Two parents” to raise them spiritually, emotionally, physically, and financially. Both parents have to give their time and resources.

By NCgirlfromATL

November 10, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

Totally off topic: A friend of mine just IM’d me to say that HLN is reporting that Osama is dead. I haven’t been able to find anything to confirm this, but he saw it on tv earler.

By Distressed

November 10, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this

Yes, I “dated” someone very briefly during our separation. You’re right, they could have been seeing each other while we were separated. When we got back together we discussed our future and he made it clear that he only wanted me and wanted our marriage to work.

By JustCurious

November 10, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

Darkbeauty…oops, my bad!! lol

Raqi….I hear you girl. Most do not understand what it really takes.

There have been several dead beats named here that could and should be doing their part. But what? What’s their excuses?

Distressed…..communication is key. You all need to have a serious talk about what has gone on (during the seperation), and what could be the results of said happenings. AND discuss where you all are headed now that you are back together. Leave nothing to be assumed. This is why I discourage back and forth relationships, it allows too much room for others to come into the picture.

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

Before everyone leaves for the day I must say:

GO FALCONS!!! BEAT DEM BROWNS!

By runninatl

November 10, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

Off topic Gerald Levert passed away today from a heart attack. Keep the familes of Ed Bradly and Gerald Levert in your prayers. Have a safe and blessed weekend.

By Jo

November 10, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

DON’T GET ME STARTED! I HATE “celebrities!” They are spoiled, overhyped & usually don’t have a fraction of the talent to merit the attention they get. Case in point: Anna Nicole Gold-digger & COMMON Electra. Why, they’re just famous for being famous! I’m always hearing comments that celeb marriages break up because fame is so stressful, etc. DON’T MAKE ME LAUGH! Those pampered brats have been given so much they consider everything cheap & disposable, even each other. I don’t feel they have the capability of deep feelings like the rest of us who’ve actually had to struggle. As for the stresses of fame, hey, they knew what they were getting into. A lot of these marriages are as fake as a 3-dollar bill. For instance, business mergers to promote a new cd or movie. Some are publicity stunts (hence, SKANKney Spears & Hubby #1). I know during the Golden Years of Hollywood, celebs often married to hide a homosexual lifestyle. So this kind of thing has been going on for decades. So much for the sanctity of marriage..nice role models for our kids..Jasmine, girl, you are right on target except for the part about dads needing to get support from the govt. NO ONE should. I also feel the courts are more sympathetic if the woman is ATTRACTIVE. I was never comfortable with the whole “housewife”/”stay at home” mom mentality. Smacks of legal prostitution to me. I can actually respect prostitutes more because at least they aren’t pretending to be anything other than what they are.

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

GET OUT!!!! Gerald Levert passed away?? Wow, I’m speechless…

By Joan

November 10, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

To: aggressively witty

Delta is ready when you are. Don’t let the door hit you in the a** on the way out!

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

In Bobby’s case, he was too busy smoking and living off Whitney. However, he did finally go back to work. If he wasn’t making the money he was in the past, he could’ve gone back for a modification if they would’ve given him one.

Many times the child support is based on the income they were making when they were big stars. When they stop making it, they go into arrears. It is through poor financial planning and other things also. Some judges know that stars may have a short high earning span and have them set up trust funds for the children while they are earning high dollars.

This is why the women involved with them can’t up their standard of living where they need the child support to pay their mortgage.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this

Distrssed My only follow up advice is to get your finances in order in case you see the need to bounce in the near future.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this

Jo, I agree with you no one should get support from the government but if poor mothers do, poor fathers should also if it is going to help the children.

By Jo

November 10, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this

Distressed: Let’s hope there’s nothing to worry about but I always say where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Keep a careful eye on him. Are you friendly with anyone in his workplace (other than his email pal, that is!) who might have a better idea what is or isn’t going on?

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this

What happened to Gerald? I pray this is a rumor and not true…

By Jo

November 10, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

Jasmine, I agree that historically, men have been getting the shaft but my thoughts are that what would be best for a lot of children is if financially strapped, un-ready, immature people took a few seconds to USE BIRTH CONTROL before doing the nasty

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

Distressed, how did you meet her? He needs to cut off all contact with her.

By abc

November 10, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

And yall recommend more espionage! Get a clue!

To have snooped in his email is reprehensible in itself. Word to the wise: don’t admit to him that you did that (possible MLB violation there, but what the hey). Evidence gained through methods you can’t disclose is not useable, is it.

Don’t interrogate his co-workers. If you put his reputation at work on the line like that, how much do you really care about him? Or more germane, how much will he think you care?

If you have questions, ask them of him, straight up. If you want some get-back after you get some straight answers, I’m sure Stinky Sullivan is available.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

Kym JustMe at some point in our adult lives we have to take personal responsiblity. I agree wholeheartedly!

If jacked up though when the dude can pay the CS but does not just to spite the mother. To afraid she’ll have to extra dimes to rub together and buy herself something.

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

Distressed What I want to know is, are you two having protected sex? Well, I guess that’s none of my business but it is something to think about…

By Blue_Kolla

November 10, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this

I see that the ladies have dominated the blog today with the dudes kicked back chillin’ in the lurkesville. LOL

Who’s got a nice Happy Hour?

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this

http://journals.aol.com/bvnewswire/bv-entertainment-newswire-blog/entries/2006/11/10/gerald-levert-dead-at-40/571

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this

Sources confirmed to The BV Newswire that Gerald Levert is dead of an apparent heart attack.

Immediate details on the death of the beloved R&B crooner were not known at press time.

He turned 40 years old in July.

One of several from the musical Levert family —his father, Eddie Levert, is the lead singer of the legendary soul group The O’Jays — he was a founding member and the lead singer of the 1990’s R&B trio LeVert, who scored big hits with “Pop, Pop, Pop, Pop (Goes My Mind)”, “Casanova”, and “ABC-123.”

Levert, born in Cleveland, Ohio, was also apart of R&B supergroup LSG, comprised of platinum selling R&B crooners Keith Sweat and Johnny Gill.

As a solo artist, Levert garnered a cult following with a string of R&B ballads (“I’d Give Anything (to Fall in Love)”, “You Got That Love”) from his numerous album projects on East West/Elektra Records.

Over the years, the vocal powerhouse has collaborated with Patti LaBelle, Miki Howard, Kelly Price, Teena Marie, Chris Rock and with his father on many different occasions.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

that should have read it’s jacked up……

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

Jasmine apparently he died of a heart attack. He was only 40 years old. Apparently wikipedia has already updated their site with the information.

By Blue_Kolla

November 10, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

ABC Mayne I’m looking at all this cacklin’ with a “Big A” question mark over my head. The underhandedness is amazing. You broads are really showing your true colors today.

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

Blue I’ve heard that Chit-Chat’s HO is cool, but I haen’t been there in a good while personally.

By Darkbeauty w/ Dimples

November 10, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

Blue Strip @ Atlantic Station…

By Jo

November 10, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

Yes, sadly, it’s true about Gerald Levert. It’s on AJC online’s home page. I actually don’t know who he is, just heard the name. My ex-husband is up on all that so I’ll ask him later.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

Nope, I didn’t say continue to snoop. I stated he may see that as a reason not to continue the marriage. No one likes a snoop…

By Jo

November 10, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the info, Jasmine. Now, I’LL have the scoop for my ex! Only 40 years old? How sad…and apparently so much going for him too

By NCgirlfromATL

November 10, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

I see that the ladies have dominated the blog today with the dudes kicked back chillin’ in the lurkesville. LOL

Chickens! lololol!!!

By JustMe

November 10, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

I will surely miss Gerald Levert! I loved LSG. That CD was the bomb! I guess I have to get it out tonight!

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Tazzee, I found the info. This is so sad. It goes to show that we must eat healthy, watch our weight, exercise, and reduce stress.

By Wise Diva

November 10, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

You guys be sure to check out the street closings for the Hip Hop awards, PLUS the construction on Ga 400. Traffic packed weekend alerts on the ajc homepage!

Does anybody have any exciting plans this weekend?

By Blue_Kolla

November 10, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

My baddd… some of you broads are really showing your true colors today.

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

And today’s discussion was going so smooth before BlueK stepped in.

Sir, please read all the posts relating to Distressed issue - I’m sure you will only fine one or two of the women involved in the discussion today mention anything about continuing to snoop. But I wouldn’t expect anything less from you since you seem to look for something to diss women (as a whole) about on a daily basis.

By Jasmine

November 10, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

I just hope Gerald’s children’s mommas behave…

He has three children out of wedlock and you know how a death in the family brings out the greediness.

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

Thanks BlueK - although I know that wasn’t in response to what I posted since it came in before mine…

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

street closings

By Kym aka Southern Girl

November 10, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

I know we talk alot about adult relationships, but 20/20 tonight is doing a followup on teen dating violence.

By Tazzee

November 10, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

Jasmine I was just talking about your health point with some of my friend girls. Apparently he had begun filming a weight loss reality show. We should pay attention to our health NOW and pray its not too late.

Oh and all my ‘apparently’ statements are based on info obtained from friends, my job blocks a lot of sites…

By Blue_Kolla

November 10, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

Tazz I’ll ignore your last comment and wish you a fantastic weekend. :)

By lovelyliz

November 13, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

$$$$ can’t gurantee happiness.

By Jasmine

November 13, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

Tazzee, Yes, we must aspire to a life of good health. That is why I get so irritated at Monique the comedian. A person should try to be skinny nor aspire to fit into society’s mold, but eating right and exercise is the key to a healthy life. Obesity is rampant in our society and it brings with it high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease… Let’s face it, being obese is neither attractive nor healthy…

By Jasmine

November 13, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

I meant to say in my comment above that “A person shouldn’t try to be skinny nor aspire to fit into society’s mold”. It is important to be a healthy weight for your build. However, many people deceive themselves into thinking that they are healthy at a weight in which they really aren’t healthy.

By jonny

November 17, 2006 07:58 AM | Link to this