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The one who loves, or the one who loves more?

When my dating life is slow, I can always rely on friends to bring the drama! I had lunch with my friend Shutterbug the other day, and she was telling me about a dilemma she’s facing with her boyfriend. They have been dating on and off for nearly a year. Their most significant problems have occurred for one simple reason: He wants to get serious more than she does. (I know — way to go, Boyfriend, prove that it’s not always the women being clingy!)

As Shutterbug tells it to me, he has pushed for her to move in with him, which she declined, and even mentioned marriage in a roundabout way, which she avoided. She says, “I love him, and I love being with him, but I don’t think I’m in love with him.” Whereas he indisputably is in love with her.

So my question for y’all revolves around something I said to her: Are relationships always unbalanced? Does someone always love more than the other person? Is it ever possible to find a relationship that is TRULY 50-50 (or at least darn close to it?)

Is it better to be the one who loves more or less in the relationship? What are the pros/cons of each position?

Can relationships change as they evolve — can you start as the one who loves more, and be the one who loves less with time, or vice versa?

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By Raqi

April 16, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

Okay while typing an entry into my personal memoir last night I decided I would go on a two week AJC blog posting fast because…well you don’t need to know all of that…and then probably hang it up all together after then. But it just something about reading this thing that makes the day go by tremendously fast and I need that to happen most days.

So I will keep it brief. From my experience the balances change throughout the relationship. Some days I feel that I am giving more and some days I feel smothered. But then there are days when we are both in sync. I would say that if you are the one giving all the love all the time then somebody is just not that into the other.

By QC

April 16, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

Morning have a great day all!

can someone please make some blog coffee…thanks

By Sexione

April 16, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

Goodmorning Blog Family!!!

Most of us already realize that women aren’t the only ones who can be clingy…..most men just don’t want to admit it. hehehehe

Having a relationship that is 50-50 is rare, I think. Usually, someone is either several steps ahead or behind their SO. If the man is sane/mature…he ends up falling for some woman who is crazy/immature. If the woman is sane/mature…she ends up falling for some dude who is crazy/immature. Or at least it seems that way!! Finding someone who is like-minded and on the same page in life is as hard as chinese arithmetic!! lol And then when/if you do, it’s not guaranteed that you all will remain that way…..one almost always seems to outgrow the other. And that’s when you end up with someone who is loving more than the other. And yes, you can go from being one who loves more to the one who loves less….but watch out, because that could be the light at the end of the tunnel (so to speak)!!

By demi

April 16, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

Good Morning To All!!!!

Thanks for all the late birthday wishes…very funny NC

If you are shot in the back of the head, how close or how good of a shot do you must be?

And the target was stationary…

By Randyt (aka "Been there, Done that, got a closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 16, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

Good Morning All

Can relationships change as they evolve — can you start as the one who loves more, and be the one who loves less with time, or vice versa?

This is a timely subject for me. In my current (or just ended) relationship of eight months, she started out way ahead of me. The “I love you’s” came too quickly for me. Eventually that became sort of even for awhile. then I think I began to get tto comfortable and feeling those “I might want to marry her” thoughts started coming. Last night, after a great weekend together, I get dumped. Go figure.

I have said before, that I think that women lead with their hearts and follow with their heads, and men do the opposite…so the timing is (IMHO) almost always off.

By Randyt (aka "Been there, Done that, got a closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 16, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

Off topic

Divorce has its price — and no celeb, it appears, knows that better than Michael Jordan. The basketball superstar’s split last December from his wife of 17 years, Juanita, is No. 1 on Forbes.com’s list of “The 10 Most Expensive Celebrity Divorces.”

Juanita Jordan could possibly “get more than $150 million in a settlement, making the Jordan divorce the most expensive in entertainment history,” Forbes said.

Can I say DAAAAAYYYYYYUUUUMMMM!

By mickiedee

April 16, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

Oh No! Randyt, I always love your posts. I was rooting for you. What happened? I thought you found the one. Especially after that runaway woman you had previously. Is this another runaway woman?

By T-Mango

April 16, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Good morning all.

I’ve been on both sides of the spectrum. Honestly, I don’t know the pros/cons of loving more versus less in a relationship. I think it simply “is what it is”. Love as an emotion is not meant to be restrained. At its’ best, love teaches you what it truly means to be free-

By Cinderella

April 16, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

RandyT I’m sorry to read about your break up! She’s a fool :)

Speaking of fools….Juanita Jordan. She’s one lucky beeyotch but dayum stupid.

By Awwwww....dayum-not Sexione

April 16, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Randyt Awwww….dayum!!!! I was also pulling for you two…hoping that she would be “the one”.

At its’ best, love teaches you what it truly means to be free- Let me add, “at it’s worst” also!! Free to love unconditionally…or free from the “love” of someone who’s not worthy!!

By Jay

April 16, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

Good morning. It’s been proven. The one in the relationship that care the most is the one that will be hurt the most. There are men that want to do right. As someone said here before. Be upfront about what it is that you want.

By Randyt (aka "Been there, Done that, got a closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 16, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

mickiedee

Hi and thanks. Not really sure, it caught me pretty much totally off guard. It could be just PMS, she tends to be very emotional and her period was due several days ago (in theory we are both fixed, so don’t read anything into that). The “I love you so much’s” were flying Saturday, but she was very stressed about this week and her daughter was stuck in Philadelphia due to the storm.

My gut feeling is that twice in a row I have run into women who have really just started dating after their divorces, and are looking for “validation” when they THINK they are looking for a relationship. I am very good at “validating” but when it comes to the fork in the road when the women have to make a decision about staying ‘permanently’ or moving on, they all of a sudden get analytical. Oh well, ‘it happens. As I have mentioned before, the over 40 singles crowd is the most screwed up group of people around. They have been burned, screwed over, and pretty much screwed up their lives…and often have a couple of utility trailers of baggage….me included. We are a fugged up group, we really are.

As Kurt Vonnegut said in the book “Slaughterhouse Five”, “and so it goes”.

By QC

April 16, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Hey Awwwwww Dayuuummmm

By Lady Dark w/Dimples

April 16, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

Good Morning Everyone

randyt I’m sorry to hear about your relationship….hopefully she had a good reason because you definitely has always presented yourself as a standup guy!

on topic I don’t think you even look for balance in a relationship….that would suggest one is keeping score. I think what you look for is respect and met expectations…both ways! One thing that I’ve learned is that people express their emotions differently through their actions…I don’t care if I love my SO more than he loves me….the thought alone is kinda silly to me either way…

off topic I’m heartbroken about the shooting down at frozen palace that killed one brother and left the other one in the hospital. They’re having a vigil at frozen tonight at 7pm….I’m thinking about going.

By abc

April 16, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

It’s better to be the one who cares less, as you then have less invested and thus less is at risk.

Chick should cut the guy loose. Leading him on a bit, isn’t she, to fill her time and entertain her by taking advantage of his feelings for her, IMHO.

By Dr. Kym Relationship Expert

April 16, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Good Monday Morning All,

Hmmmm I think that in any relationship it is not about loving more or less. Just different ways of loving. There is no universal way that all women love or that all men love…because we are all different. Creatures of emotion yes but still different. So while one man does the wine and roses, another may take your car to the shop. One woman may rub your back, the other may wash your clothes. Doesn’t mean that person loves less just differently. An frankly I have grown to learn that some folks are just emotionally unavailable.

By SeanJohnson

April 16, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

Sup Blog..i think its kinda hard for love to be balanced in a relationship…due to people how people love..the dynamics of them showing love and the conditions they love. Since every one have different boundaries they put on love and the limits they love someone…makes you think that all though folks say they love unconditionally but they really dont. Me..i learned at a very young age that he who cares or appear to care the least in the relationship controls the relationship..and it has actually made me successful in love to a degree..I think Randy’s case is a perfect example that love balance is difficult because people rarely fall in love at the same time…thnk i am gonna listen to some Teddy Pendergrass

By Randyt (aka "Been there, Done that, got a closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 16, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

Mickiedee, Cinderella, Awwwww….dayum-not Sexione ,L ady Dark w/Dimples

Thanks y’all.

By Harvey

April 16, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

She says, “I love him, and I love being with him, but I don’t think I’m in love with him.”

Translation — I am using him until I find someone better.

By Sexione

April 16, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

LDD guurrll, I was kinda hurt by that too! I live right down the street a few miles from there. I like the Sunday afternoons there..all the bikes and bikers! I didn’t know they were having a vigil tonight….hmmmmm…

QC Hey gurl, that was me borrowing Awwwww….dayums name…it seemed appropriate!

By Biff

April 16, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

Well, your chick friend sounds like the typical bimbo who posts here.

In love with him, but doesn’t love him? I suspect your friend has sexual identity problems. Is she hot? What’s probably going on is she has self identity issues and can’t handle being with a man. My advice-tell the dude that he’s dating a phyco. One day perhaps her hormones will balance out and she might be able to act normal.

By Blog Lizard

April 16, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Shout outs!!!

Yes, shout outs!

I’ve got nothing at all to say again, but can I get a DAYYYYYYYYYYYUMMMMMM from everyone?

How do I put this nicely? The blog respondents seem to be here more to hear themselves type.

By Santino

April 16, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

The euphoria one feels when he is absolutely in love is unreal, but the fall is horrendous. I say, love equally…

By DeDe

April 16, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

To me this gets at the very nature of committment and how our view of it has changed. If staying in a relationship is a matter of feeling, inevitably it is doomed to fail. As human beings our emotions ebb and flow and change. If, however, both people decide to unflinchingly commit to a relationship, no matter what, those “I don’t like you” days are just bumps along the road.

Most of our grandparents stayed married till death did them part, but I doubt it was because both parties were equally and blissfully in love every day. It’s very possible that many couples who could do life together don’t stay together because of the current view of relationships as disposable.

By Sexione

April 16, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Laney Can you clean up the trash on aisle 9:43 please? Thanks!!

By Linguist

April 16, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Hey E’rrybody

Going to get some coffee AND a cinammon roll from the blog cafe, then off to a meeting

By Dr. Kym Relationship Expert

April 16, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

SJ..not in all case does the one who cares less run the show. Because I know from my own recent experience. I was not will to hang on with the one who seem to careless. I recongized the relationship for what it was and where it was not going and moved on. Then again I have control issues and dont do well when I think someone is trying to manipulate me like a puppet.

By Awwwwwww...Dayum

April 16, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

Hey QC and that was Sexione, not me.

Lady Dark w/Dimples I am head down there tonight as well.

The only thing that get shot in the back are animals…I thought we were humans.

By Biff

April 16, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

So “Sexione” you another one of the racial/sexual thought police? Why do you try to stifle voices who are not of the herd, so to speak?

There are a number of posters here who are straddling the balance of sanity, I feel like I walked into a dysfunctional nursery of angry black females.

By Sexione

April 16, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

No, Biff, I’m the name-calling police!! You have the right to voice your opinion, but can you be mature enough to do it without calling people names??? If not, then be gone!!

By Awwwwwww...Dayum

April 16, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Blog Lizard and what you are doing is…

Sexione my names is spelled with , not …., and no “s” at the end of Dayum. I am not married as of yet.

By BeenThereDoneThat2

April 16, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Sorry Randyt, this may just be a bump in the road, a test , if you will…to see how important she is to you and how hard you’ll fight to get her back.

As for balance, he who loves least has the power. He/She is less apt to be hurt, less invested.

By You are kidding, right?

April 16, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Laney, the AJC actually pays you Money to put out this Blog???

By Sexione

April 16, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

My bad, Awwwww…dayum, don’t sue me….lol I didn’t think it was that serious!!!

By Sexione

April 16, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

Off topic…

BUDAPEST, Hungary — Five thousand rabbits blocked a highway Monday, tying up traffic after the truck that was carrying them collided with another vehicle and overturned.

Neither driver was hurt, but some 500 rabbits were killed, authorities said.

Ohhhh noooooo!!! Not the bunnies!!

Berlin Zoo’s Polar Bear Knut Is Sick BERLIN — The Berlin Zoo’s popular polar bear cub, Knut, is not feeling well and had his daily public appearance in front of thousands of visitors cut short Monday after only 30 minutes. The zoo’s veterinarian, Andre Schuele, put the 4 1/2-month old cub on antibiotics and said the Knut is “off stage to get some rest while we watch him closely.”

He is sooooo cute!!

By Chocolate Peach

April 16, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Morning Folk, I’m tired of the love & relationship talk. However I will say I’m toooo sick w/all this police brutality crap. It has to STOP!!

I will NOT be attending the vigil but I’m guaranteed to attend a rally, protesting or any other public gathering. It’s just sickening & disgusting that these policemen continue to play God. Whatever happen to “Serve & Protect” ??? How in the hayo do they sleep at night knowing that have killed someone’s child? That’s NOT protecting…That’s cold blooded murder!! I pray these cops gets prosecuted to the fullest & beat down in jail by their cellmates. If any of you hear of any rallies or protesting please inform me. I will have me eyes & ears WIDE open.

It’s only a matter of time before it’s one of our bros, cousins or uncles.

Have a happy blog day L8tr!!!

By Lady Dark w/Dimples

April 16, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Is it better to be the one who loves more or less in the relationship?

I think if you aim for either one then it’s a sign that you’re not ready for a mature relationship!

I know you love me…but I love you more than me! That’s just plain silly!

In the case of this story….homegirl, is probably being dishonest with dude. She doesn’t want a serious future with him and doesn’t want to tell him. She’s just there for the ride

By Awwwwwww...Dayum

April 16, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Sexione then let us make peace over diner…Not even I will stand a chance against your team of sexy lawyers.

By Randyt (aka "Been there, Done that, got a closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 16, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

She says, “I love him, and I love being with him, but I don’t think I’m in love with him.

I always cringe when I here this. As I have said many time, I HATE the FZ, and when I hear this I know that somebody is getting ready to be sent to the prison known as the FZ. She really needs to be straight up with him…and be prepared for the battle and relationship ending situation that will happen next. That is the fair and proper thing to do. The Runaway Bride wannabe that I dated wanted the same but that is always never good for the other.

By Chullato

April 16, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Good Morning

If anyone is interested, there is a discussion regarding race and discipline on the get schooled blog. It’s interesting to say the least.

By Biff

April 16, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Choco Peach. I hate it when anyone gets shot by the police when they don’t need it. I have no idea what happened on this occasion.

The overriding problem which leads to unjust shooting is that the black community has become a war zone. Young blacks in particular are living the culture so aptly described by Don Imus. They rape, rob and murder as if it were a right. The police know it is a war zone and react accordingly with resultant unjustified shootings from time to time.

But the problem has been created by hordes of black criminals and their shills who refuse to accept responsibility for anything, having children while unwed, supporting racial con-artist such as Sharpton, demanding reparations while living on Gov. handouts. So when you go to protest, look around you will see the problem. Its time for blacks to accept the rules of civilized society, then there would be no unjustified shootings.

By Museq

April 16, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

My views on the idea of LOVE seems to shift from one day to the next. Perhaps that means I don’t realy know what love is? When it’s right, it’s the BEST feeling in the world, but when it’s wrong, you’d just rather roll over and die. Between the confused, the ‘caught up’ and game players, I’d be content just to find some middleground and enjoy that for a while. Maybe I’m asking for too much..

By SexyLeggs

April 16, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Good morning to All. This is a hard topic. When both parties are in sync any mountain seems like a pebble. Being in love is a privilege that shouldn’t be taken lightly. It’s a cherished gift.

By cool breeze

April 16, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

I think relationships are always unbalanced and someone loves more that the other. Love isn’t always a constant feeling and ebbs and flows. I think it’s impossible to find a relationship that is 50-50 or 100-100 and people should stop looking for it to be and stop trying to keep score. If people weren’t so selfish and looking for what they can give instead of what they can get and just LOVE it would be great. All relationships change over time you call out of love with someone but never start loving them. It’s not about who loves more or less but just about who loves.

By cool breeze

April 16, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

the post about who loves least has the “power” is stupid. a relationship isn’t about who has power and who doesn’t. control issues abound.Love the post Lady Dark w/Dimples

By Got that?

April 16, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

The only measure you can use in a relationship is, are both getting what they want out of it? To be blunt, your friend is using the guy she’s dating. She’s wasting his time because she’s not willing to let go, but complains about him being clingy. If she was straight and honest, she’d do what she has to do to be about where she stands and end it. She’s as much at fault in the on-again, off-again relationship. No matter what she might say, she’s staying in it because she’s getting something out of it.

By Chink

April 16, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

Hello All

I have come to the conclusion I can’t bear to even come on AJC website anymore…

I have had tears in my eyes for days reading racial remarks, hateful words and just ridiculous statements…

Take care all and be safe there was a time I enjoyed reading blogs but I believe a line has been crossed and it is seeping into this blog as well (not the regulars) and to keep my sanity I need to do something else …

I will miss yall Peace and Love

By Randyt (aka "Been there, Done that, got a closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 16, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Cane

We’re all friends here, so you can be totally honest…you are as ‘cherry’ as the Vienna Boys Choir aren’t you?

It’s okay, you can ‘fess up’, all of us were virgins once. LOL.

By Demi

April 16, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Chink sorry to hear that sis, I will miss reading your comments.

By Chocolate Peach

April 16, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Museq U said a mouth full there. Luv It!!

Wassup SexyLegs? Hadn’t read you in a while. It’s definitely a gift!

While enjoying my total access from BB this weekend I finally got the courage to watch the “PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS” And that made me think about “The pursuit of Love” I find it hard to believe that any one person has NEVER had a happy moment in their life. There had to be atleast one time in your life where you exp some type of happiness. Which brought me to the question…Will we ALL get the chance to exp love? or will there be some that will continue to pursue but NEVER experience?

“The Pursuit of Love” Now, that I wouldn’t find hard to believe at all. Hmmmmmmmm, Maybe I can do a script & shop it around to Tyler….That would be a great movie starring myself of course. Lol!!!

By Sexione

April 16, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

I’m with Chink, it’s getting sickening!!!!

Where’s the blog police now??????

Whateva…………

By Dr. Kym Relationship Expert

April 16, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Chink and others…

A wise woman once told me if you let others control your thoughts and mind then they in essence control YOU. So why should the ignorance of a few control the actions of many? In my quest during the lent season I learned alot about ignoring ignorance because as I am a passionate person when it come to my beliefs, I have learned that not everyone was raised like me. Therefore, not everyone will think like me. In other words, I am learning to pick my battles. My energy or passion as you will for certain things can best utilize other places. So why waste it on foolishness? Sometimes when dealing with intolerance the best reaction is no reaction at all.

By Will C.

April 16, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

Speaking of Michael Jordan, How can the courts justify giving Juanita Jordan $150 million. She did not dribble a basketball nor do any of the commercials. I think rich men get a bad deal when they divorce from women. For the women its like hitting the lottery. I’m in favor of changing the laws to protect men from this blatant thievery by the courts and women.

Check out this site for women looking to meet rich guys and rich guys looking to meet hot girls. http://www.richguystrophywife.com/

If you need dating ideas check out my book at, “101 Dating Ideas for Atlanta Singles.” http://books.lulu.com/content/59240

By Chocolate Peach

April 16, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Very well said Dr. Kym!!! As you can read I had to do just that already this am.

I REFUSE to entertain foolishness.

By Linguist

April 16, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Dr.Kym Can I sign up for your class? oh,.. I’m sorry, you didn’t know that you were teaching?? I heard that you had a class called “dropping knowldege”, it has something to do with the reformation of decorum… I’ll be sitting in the front row, dragging some of these n’erdowells along with me.

Great Post 11:36

By jraw

April 16, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

@Chink

I have to agree w/KYM don’t let a few bad apples spoil it for you. Keep your head up. Plus we will miss your posts.

By Alvin

April 16, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Its time for blacks to accept the rules of civilized society, then there would be no unjustified shootings.

Soooo…Biff, even if I am proven innocent, it’s ok for me to be gunned down…from the back.

I guess you feel all blacks should be viewed as criminal, regardless of their social standings with society.

On Al…I believe MOST whites view him as a leader, more than MOST blacks.

By Demi

April 16, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

Sup jraw

Mayne…I never knew Kym was soo human! You Alvin?

By jbean3

April 16, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

I think dating is overrated. The ones you want don’t want you and the ones you don’t want want you even more.

Just got out of a dating-ship (not a relationship) because I felt he was getting serious — wasn’t feeling him that way.

As for Juanita — guess it is all the payback from the “probable” affairs that he had. But not $150 million — OMG!!!! She really didn’t work for that money - she basically stayed home and raised the kids. (I’m probably going to get my a@@ chewed for that one).

By Alvin

April 16, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Naw Demi…

By Sexione

April 16, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Kym I feel you…,and for me it’s not about letting anyone control my anything. If that were the case, I wouldn’t even be here. It just gets to the point that some choose no to participate anymore. It’s about “choice”, not “control”. Now I could “choose” to entertain (and respond) to such ignorance, or I can “choose” to ignore it, or ignore it and move on…..either way it’s all about “choice”. Now Chink on the other hand sounded pretty upset, and I refuse to go there over such ignorance!!

My question now is, “Where in the h3ll is the blog police?”. And why is such ignorance allowed to be spread????

Laney ????????????

By Linguist

April 16, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Oh for the love of all that is good in the world… gimme a break WillC 11:41 So, she’s with him at the beginning, before he becomes mega super star, she the motivating force behind him, cheering the entire time “you can do this”, has children with him, runs the household, takes the kids to school, does charity work, probably schedules all the family vacations, coordinates the kids schedules, schedules visits with the in-laws, parent teacher conferences, sleep overs, etc… at the same time, she feels compelled to keep up her looks, even knowing in the back of her mind that her husband has already strayed…

and you know what else?.. I’m not necessarily talking about Juanita Jordan.. This could be any woman whose husband makes a lot of money. A woman (in this example)may not be the one bringing home the “cash” money, but her time and efforts for doing everything else are invaluable

$150 million? So what… this from a man who sneakers cost $150 bucks and up?? Gimme a break!

By Lady Dark w/Dimples

April 16, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Ling This could be any woman whose husband makes a lot of money.

This also applies for the husband who makes $40,000/yr!! That wife is doing the same tasks….with less help!

By abc

April 16, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Yall needn’t be so upset about blog blather. Consider the source: American average IQ ranges between 90 and 109 — on average, people aren’t that bright.

By Sexione

April 16, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

LMSAO @ Ling I was thinking the same thing!!! I guess now those dayuummmed sneakers will cost $300!! lol

By Linguist

April 16, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

LDD I wasn’t even going to go there… I was, but then I remembered that your boy Musing would’ve issued me several over 2-lines post citations!!

By Chink

April 16, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

I am “choosing” to remove myself from it. While I was emotional about it, I can find something else to do then read hate comments and or black vs white comments.

How can the Misadventure blog be policed for curse words while over on a couple of blogs on the AJC platform all kinds of stuff is being posted…?

I think its sad and it hurts ..yes it does and I am not afraid to say that.

But for me to continue to sign on and read crap doesnt make sense while the AJC seems to promoting this with all these racial topics…like to today school:discipline:race …come on this is just a plot to get people to make generalizations and post absolute nonsense…and raise emotions….

All right I am really leaving now and I am not running away I just cant support such BS. By coming on the site (www.ajc.com)I am showing I support it ….when I don’t!

By jraw

April 16, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Sup Demi

yeah, Kym is human and she drop some straight knowledge when making that comment to chink. Kym, What’s up w/the steelers letting Joey P. go? I do like the fact that Rooney stuck by the rule that was created by him.

By Dr. Kym Relationship Expert

April 16, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

jraw It was just JoeyP’s time and I think that since Cowher left he was ready to go. He had a real attachment to Cowher. Yes I am proud of Rooney too… You know Tomlin worked with Tony Dungy too.

5months and counting to the opening of the 2007-2008 season

By Leroy Smiths

April 16, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

Dayum Biff, you knows the man is after all us brothers. Just the other day I went to the stowe to gets me some more Bull and some Newports. I tripped over my dayum pants when I walked in and my dayum piece falls out on the floor. Just my luck there is a damn pig in there. He puts me in cuffs and wants to know if piece is registered,if I got a concealed permit,and some other bullsh*t. I tolds him “sheet, you know that damn piece is hot ya stupid pig” and he took me to damn jail. I am defintely a victim of profiling and plan on getting Jesse down here to gets this sh@t scraight.

By jraw

April 16, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

@chink

I agree with you. The other blogs on ajc contain many more racists comments than this one. Which is why I don’t respond to those comments on those blogs. You can’t debate ignorance once it is embedded into a person via a blog or in person, so why waste your time. Don’t let racists comments stop you from doing something you like doing. Right now you are letting them win because they have gotten to you mentally. Just take a step back and look at the big picture.

By Tater

April 16, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

*By Chocolate Peach April 16, 2007 10:33 AM *

Morning Folk, I’m tired of the love & relationship talk. However I will say I’m toooo sick w/all this police brutality crap. It has to STOP!!

You need to take a ride with the Atlanta, DeKalb or Fulton County Police on a Saturday night and once you dodge bullets, knifes and crazy spouses see if your opinion changes. Don’t believe everything in the AJC, they are out to sell papers (which they haven’t done very well for a long time).

By Island Girl

April 16, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Hey everyone. I usually read the posts and not comment, but this topic warrants an opinion. @jbean3 a lot of homemakers would disagree with you on your comment, “She really didn’t work for that money - she basically stayed home and raised the kids”. Raisings kids and taking care of a husband is hard work…not that I know much about that from personal experience.

I have to agree with most of what is said on the topic. In relationships, it is hard to truly have a 50/50 balance when it comes to emotions, etc. We have different personalities, and different ways of dealing with our emotions.

By Sexione

April 16, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

One day a little boy walked in his parents room and saw them having sex. The boy’s father said that him and mom are making a little sister for him. So the next day the dad came home from work and saw the little boy cring.

“What’s wrong?” the father asked.

The boy responded “Do you remember the little sister you and mommy made…well the milkman ate it.”

By Grace

April 16, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Why are people always so opinionated on rich divorces. So what! Women get half everyday in this country. I will say this. I am glad that she is getting that much for her kids sake. Men get real stupid when they get old. Look at Paul McCartney. When he married Heather without a prenup he was not protecting his adult children. Can you imagine what would have happened if he had died while married to her. I see it every day in the lives of regular men. My dad’s 75yr old friend has been financially cleaned out by his 40 something wife and her 2 teenage kids. Men treat their 2nd family better and often forget about the first family.

I think women are better at protecting their kids. If Juanita is rich, than her kids will be. Michael has been know to have many affairs with women who look like Anna Nicole. If he find one who has half the skills, his kids will be forgotten about. I am just one who believe in keeping the money in the family.

By Sexione

April 16, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

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By The truth

April 16, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

Linguist you sound like my neighbor. Its that same entitlement mentality that so many women have now. Truth is she didn’t do jack to earn that money except sleep with Mike. If not him it would of been some broke guy and she wouldn’t of got a penny. Marriage is disposable nowadays. Why make long term payments on short term agreements. I say return her to the apaprtment she came from and be done with it. If I were married to Oprah I wouldn’t expect one penny of her money, she earned it on her own, IT’S HERS. I will say that Mike should have had a better lawyer, or spoke with OJ. Did anyone notice the billionaire’s payed a mere fraction of their wealth to their ex’s? Thats what being a good business is about, protecting your assets from everyone, even the person sharing your bedroom.

Chink relax a little. There will always be some type of hatred, it helps the world go round.

On topic. I think its better if the woman cares more. It gives her incentive to control her emotions. Also, nobody likes a weak a* guy and if he’s weaker than you emotionally why do you need him? You’ll stay with him while your lonely but always have your eye open for the right one.

By Laney

April 16, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

sigh……I know it’s hard, y’all, but try to ignore the idiots. if you don’t give them any attention, hopefully they’ll go away, and I will certainly get rid of their comments.

just behave, everyone. it’s not that tough to carry on a civilized conversation without insults. consider this your warning.

By The truth - NOT

April 16, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

Just know that just because that’s your name doesn’t mean that’s what you’re always bringing!! Just sayin…

And how do you know that she came from an apartment? She could have come from a nice home….but that just goes to show the mentality of some….she wouldn’t have none of this nice stuff if it weren’t for me…….bull!!!

By Linguist

April 16, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Well, sorry to disappoint you truth but I’m not your neighbor - at least… I don’t think so!! :) Ling now looking through office blinds a la Gladys Kravitz … I guess this is one of the good things about blogging here, there are so many differences of opinions. It’s funny, that the differences on some topics can be so v-a-s-t.

Glad to hear that you think so little of marriage - that a woman is entitled to receive so little from a relationship - yep, I guess so many women force men to sleep with them, and yep.. glad to hear those “shotguns” marriages are still in effect… Whew! For a second I thought we were living in the 21st century where marriages are “equal partnerships”… Glad you set me straight!

Ling now calling hubby and telling him to “give me my change” when she paid for his orange soda the other day… you ain’t keepin nothing partner!

By DuShawn

April 16, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

off topic: 21 students murdered at Virginia Tech by gunmen. This is a crazy world.

By Will C.

April 16, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Linguist I’m going to repeat what the truth posted. You are not entitled to anything. Michael Jordan was rich before he met Juanita. He was in the NBA making millions of dollars for several years. Juanita was a college graduate working in a regular job making regular money. Michael’s kids are in high school and the kids will be provided for. I would agree that he did not have good lawyer that would have prevented this situation from occuring. It’s rare that marriages lasts 30+ years in today’s time. He should have known this and made her sign a pre-nuptial agreement saying exactly what she would received if she left the marriage. $150 million is excessive and there’s no way to justify that. Michael is a victim of his success. All these single women knew he was rich and married and they didn’t care. They wanted to get him bed and produce a child so they could hit the lottery and collect millions too.

Chink Stop complaining and leave. You can’t control the thoughts of other individuals. Someone will always post something on a blog that you will disagree with. You should probably give up blogging entirely because the majority of blogs have racial and sexist remarks.

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By The truth

April 16, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

Grace it’s pretty amazing you feel that way. Rumor is she was just a groupy before she met Mike. As for the children their in high school. I’m sure they’ll be taken care of. You act as if Mike wasn’t going to be Mike if he hadn’t met her. Mike do what Mike do. She didn’t workout with him, develope herself mentally. All she did was sleep with him. There is no more value in that. Also, I do say keep it in the family, but she is no longer in his family or she wouldn’t be hijacking him for 150 mil. Who needs family like that? She should enjoy the ride while she’s on and just get off when its over. I say get her a 3 bedroom 2 bath condo and call it a rap. This is simply another incidence of a woman doing what she can to stay in a mans pocket. I hope the laws change one day to reflect the temporary nature of marriages nowadays. Its hard to open a new chapter in life when a old page is holding on to your pockets.

By Linguist

April 16, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Whatever… let me get my violin out so It can motivate me in writing this soliloquy I’ve been thinking about…. Hope you offer your clients a prenup before venturing into a moneytionship… opps! my bad.. I meant relationship!

By Lady Dark w/Dimples

April 16, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

Let’s be clear…it’s the MEN who are making these child support/alimony laws….they still make up the majority of the lawmakers. So all the men on here crying about how much Juanita got…who cares!

By JustMe

April 16, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Good Afternoon All

Randy Say it ain’t so?!?!?!

I’m gonna browse quickly……. brb

By The truth

April 16, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Willc thanks for the support. I wish every guy would look at this stuff before getting married. If men, even the average guy, knew what he was getting into there would be no divorce rate because no men would get married.

ling if you were married to a man making 15k would you even bother to take him to court or just walk away so you could go on to the next victim. Since you couldn’t get anything I’m sure you’d go on. Thats all anyone getting divorced wants. Go on to the next stage of life. Just because we shared a few good times doesn’t mean I owe you for the rest of my life. Grow up, adults in relationships expose their emotions and sometimes get hurt. It happens. No one owes you a fortune because your feelings are hurt. And relationships aren’t equal. They never will be. Quit dreaming.

By The truth - NOT

April 16, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Men stop whining and crying about what a woman is getting!! Suck it up…none of those millions are coming out of your pockets (for those that are itching and moaning). If it were a woman going thru this, then you all would be saying it’s her fault for not knowing what type of man she was dealing with, and it’s her fault for allowing him to use her this way……her fault, her fault, her fault, blah, blah, blah!!!! But, now that the shoe is on the other foot, he’s the victim. Make up your confused little minds!! Everyone is accountable for their own situations. Mike’s a big boy, he can take care of himself!!!!

By Linguist

April 16, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

oh… truth..ruth it’s okay honey bunny, sounds like you’ve been emotionally stymied in the past… here’s a good, tight ((blog hug)) for you! and here …how about a nice red carnation? Now… let’s keep in moving…before I take over OfficerMusirello’s job and issue you a citation for violating the MIA blog 135.66/ab1 code…still yapping, when you know the women are always right!!

:) It’s all good!

By Island Girl

April 16, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

@The Truth, It is obvious you have issues concerning the complexities of marriage. I’m sure after 17 years of marriage…s#x was not the only thing that kept them together, since he was getting it elsewhere (“your assertion is all she did was sleep with him”). You trivialize all of the work Juanita did to raise their children, run the Jordan Foundation and all the philanthropic efforts she’s done (especially while Michael Jordan was on the road traveling playing basketball).

By Will C.

April 16, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

The truth - NOT The issue is not about Michael Jordan. It’s about average men forced to make payments to women who don’t deserve them. When the marriage is over you should be to walk away and not have to continue making unnecessary payments to a woman who you no sleep with. If there are children involved, the man should provide for the children and the woman should get a job and provide for herself. I’m for fairness would be passionate about a woman who was unfairly taken advantage of. Oprah is a good example. Let’s say her and Stedman got married and suddenly divorced. I believe Stedman is NOT entitled to Oprah’s billions. He did not earn it and should not get a penny.

By The truth

April 16, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

Lady that is a good point. I agree with you. Men wrote these laws and they should be the one to change them.

THe truth-not nobody is crying hun. Your the one thats going to pay more than Juanita. The more cases like this that come up the more men are educated. I will always have women to date because I can produce. I have been through the court system and know its crap. Thats why I will date but no more marrige for me. I’m lucky, I lost everything when I didn’t have anything. The risk just isn’t worth the reward. Your right though, Mike will be ok. Will you?

By Randyt (aka "Been there, Done that, got a closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 16, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

Hey Just

Randy Say it ain’t so?!?!?!

Is right now at least. We had what I thought was a great time Saturday, talked Sunday evening, and then an hour and a half later the “Dear Randy” email came. Sometimes you do it wrong and know that it will fall apart, but sometimes you think you finally got it right, and then you get “another t-shirt”. LOL.

You ever wonder how much booze is sold because of women (or men) messing your mind up. A few drinks (or a few nights drinking) to send the relationship off properly, and then things will be fine again. Been here before!!! LOL.

Breaking up is a lot like skydiving in one respect…when you make it to the ground successfully the first time, you feel that you can make it again. I can make it again.

By Randyt (aka "Been there, Done that, got a closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 16, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Hey Linguist

I forget and occasionally forget that same MLB rule sometimes (dumb I know). So remind me again, ‘if a man says something in the woods, and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong’??? LOL.

By SexyLeggs

April 16, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

The count at VA Tech is now at 31

By Sexione

April 16, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Off topic…

The body count at Virginia Tech is now at 31.

By Linguist

April 16, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Hey namesake!notice I didn’t bold it! Just wanted to see if you are paying attention. I’m rather surprised that you haven’t voiced your opinion…hehehehehe!

By Linguist

April 16, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Randy “wrong as the day is long”… hahaha.. Me and slim know where the MLB handbook is “hidden”.. right there by our secret stash behind the blog bar.. I pull it out every once in a while to set the blog men straight!!!

By abc

April 16, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Regarding divorce settlements, it has nothing to do with who earned what, or it shouldn’t be. It’s about being domestic partners that share in everything, with everything divided fairly should the relationship die. You all with your who-earned-what-and-deserves-whatever have a bit of a warped idea about what marriage is.

My condolences, Randy. Thing is, I can’t imagine that kind of behavior without a causal factor.

By The truth

April 16, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

ling Thanks for the hug, it felt good. Ladies, don’t get your undies in a wad.I have what I want in life. I’m free to do what I want. I don’t need to be married to be happy. I enjoy my lady but I’m not getting married again.

Juanita wouldn’t have a foundation to run without Mike and she was going to have kids anyway. She was a replaceable part in that whole equation.

By The truth - NOT

April 16, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

I will always have women to date because I can produce. WTF????? Ignorance at it’s best!!!!! Nevertheless, do you. And stop bashing women because they are doing whatever they feel is right for them!! You almost sound like Justin, hurt and disappointed because some woman “done done” you wrong!! Men can be such “crybabies”!!! Not all….but some…

Randyt hang in there!! She broke it off via email? That was stank!!!

By DuShawn

April 16, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

Fellas, You ever consider the possibility that Mike did have a good lawyer, but chose not to vigorously dispute her demands because he wanted her have the bread. It’s possible that he felt she deserved it. 150 mill will ensure that she will be rich forever (barring some incredibly stupid financial moves). That amount may seem excessive by some standards, but it’s not going to break him. I don’t know the details of their decree. However, if the agreement prevents her from receiving a percentage of future earnings or merchandising revenues it might not have been a bad move.

By Alvin

April 16, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

I am sorry, but Juanita serves as a wake up call for successful men, who think its ok to leave wifey at home, while you do what you do. Times have change; marriage has little or no meaning in our society anymore. Yes most women are looking for a come up, but some aren’t. For Mike this is a peace of mind. He is now free to pursuit his happiness with other women. LOL I bet even he realize: P-dussy is in abundant; a good woman however, IS NOT.

By Randyt (aka "Been there, Done that, got a closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 16, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

Hey abc and By the Truth—-Not

It may blow over and it may not. She may be just PMS-ing (at least I hope so). Either way…so it goes.

By NCgirlfromATL

April 16, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

I bet even he realize: P-dussy is in abundant; a good woman however, IS NOT.

Alvin, are you saying Juanita is not a good woman?

By Lady Dark w/Dimples

April 16, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

To DuShawn’s point…Steven Spielberg had to give $100 million in his divorce settlement…but now he’s worth $3 billion….in essence, he just threw a few pennies her way because he knew his future earning potential.

I know you guys won’t agree with this….but some of that money could be guilt money….only they know what he took her through. Not that you can put a price on guilt….but maybe that’s what he felt was sufficient for the heartache and embarrassment he brought to her and his family….let’s not forget the admitted affair he had with the girl who tried to extort money from him

By DuShawn

April 16, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Like the old saying goes: “It’s cheaper to keep her”. Every brother that I know personally that has gone through a divorce all had big, beautiful homes and now live in small apartments. If my lady even mentions the thought of divorce, I’m like: “Baby, stop playing. Come over here and let me give you a foot massage. You want a glass of merlot? Sweetheart, let’s stop talking silly. You heard what the pastor said. Till death do us part. Now, you sure you’re ready to part?”

By NCgirlfromATL

April 16, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

DuShawn You are funny! But seriously, if more people would take that attitude, and not believe relationships/marriages were so disposable, folks wouldn’t be so worried about someone taking half of what they made during the marriage.

Then, I wouldn’t be a divorce lawyer, but a party-planner to the stars! lolol!

By Alvin

April 16, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

Randyt I feel you bruh, but ending a relation via email was COLD…two thousands and seven degrees below zero cold

By The truth

April 16, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

the truth-not you need a hug from ling. ling can you send her one? TY. Only your man, if you have one which I doubt, is a crybaby. Thats why your so upset. My problem isn’t so much with women as the system. The system is flawed and the results follow the system. Marriages worked when we needed each other. We don’t anymore. I can cook, clean, and provide for myself. I don’t need you, its a want and my wants change. I understand that about me and enjoy dating for awhile and moving on. I don’t put myself in a situation where I have to pay you for something I no longer get. As for the complexities of marriage, they say that over 70% of divorces are initiated by the woman so apparently the complexities are to much for you to handle. You want something, you get it and then its hard work. I would say stay by yourself but for most of you you can’t even stand to be alone so do whatever makes you feel good for the moment and keeping looking for the unfortunate guy who’s sensitive enough to listen to all the mess that comes out your mouth.

By Randyt (aka "Been there, Done that, got a closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 16, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

DuShawn

Like the old saying goes: “It’s cheaper to keep her”

No kidding. It took me four years to get out of an apartment, and the first year I could not even afford a bed…slept on lawn chair for a while, then got a cheap mattress I had to lay on the floor. Would you believe I did not invite a woman over for a long time? “Hey Baby, you’d be more comfortable here at your place…why don’t we just stay here?”. It usually took about one visit to my ‘house of destitution’ before it was back to their place…if they saw me again.

By QueDogTeaching

April 16, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

What up Blog Said while speed Blogging.

Randy-T I don’t have as many T-shirts in my closet as you, but I do have that particular one, and on the back it reads “its not you its me.” For me, it went from her talking to her friends about marriage and kids again, to saying she needed a break, and I do mean over night. Personally I believe that most women want a lot out of a man, and when they get exactly what they want, they are scared to lose it so they just let it go. It is like having the best hamburger you have ever had, with the coldest beer , and throwing it away while you are enjoying it for fear that someone might come along and take it from in front of you. It is frustrating because you have been true to yourself, and to her and got nothing in return from either person.

Off Topic All I know is when the police ask you to do something, no matter what it is. With out hesitation DO IT.

Off Off Topic So what some of you are saying is that, Mrs. Jordan for all that she did, performed services that equaled $8,823,529.41 a year in that marriage? Just asking?

By NCgirlfromATL

April 16, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

I dunno randyt…if she’d break up with you by email just b/c she was PMSing, or otherwise trippin over something of which you seem to not be aware (and she probably never brought to your attention), perhaps this was a blessing in disguise. Considering getting back with her when she comes to her senses might not be the best move for you. It sounds like you really cared about her though. Chin up, blogbuddy! It sounds like it truly is her loss!

By Blue_Kolla

April 16, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

Chink How can the Misadventure blog be policed for curse words while over on a couple of blogs on the AJC platform all kinds of stuff is being posted…?

Moms: “A nikka will always make it his business to take care of the other man’s business.” She wasn’t b******’!!!

Randy Man spend 1 week wondering what happened and all the cool things that yall have done; and then blow that off… and be off - To the next. For whatever reason this chick saw reason to jump ship. (she could’ve been a real beyotch and played you for aw while) She’ll be back, because she felt the need to have a “great” weekend before she dipped - that was guilt. You read like a good dude; just not the right dude… for her, right now. LOL

By Randyt (aka "Been there, Done that, got a closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 16, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Nahh Alvin, she isn’t even in the same league as my ex-wife

I got into an arguement with my ex in the waning weeks of our marriage over a pair of beagles that she thought would be cute. In the same arguement, she said that she would never put those dogs out in the cold…but she would put me out…and did!!! I got the court order the day after my birthday and I slept in the back of a minivan for the next three weeks. Do you know how friggin hard it is to find a parking lot that some cop won’t roust you in the middle of the night? Now that was cold.

Nope Alvin, I’ve seen cold and this did not compare. LOL.

By Alvin

April 16, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

NC I never said that she wasn’t. I was only implying women/sex can be found anywhere, even in the Russia space station. A good/decent woman is not.

By Randyt (aka "Been there, Done that, got a closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 16, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Hey Y’all

Thanks, seriously. It is nice to know that sometimes people do really care. Again, thanks. Like I said, it may be nothing at all, and we may be back together tomorrow stronger than ever, but if not, it was fun…and I found out that a lot of people do care.

By pieceout

April 16, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

You kids wouldn’t know real love if it hit you in the azz.

By NCgirlfromATL

April 16, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

So what some of you are saying is that, Mrs. Jordan for all that she did, performed services that equaled $8,823,529.41 a year in that marriage? Just asking?

QDT, are you saying that a marriage is about quantifying the performance of services? What services was she to perform? I imagine that the only service she had to perform she did, which produced their children. But, then Mike knew that before he married her and had that $3M Nike deal on the books before he said “I do.” Everyone wants to make Juanita out to be a gold digge