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The sweets too soon?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I admit it, maybe I’m fickle. I want an affectionate man, but I worry when said sweets come too soon.
Case in point, meet “Peter,” the guy I’ve been seeing as of late. We had a pretty decent first date about a month ago (overall pleasant, though no sparks), but he did something that really threw me off: he held my hand. Whoa, I thought to myself. Kind of soon for that level of affection, no? I’ve sooner made out with a guy than hold his hand, which seems terribly tender and romantic and the stuff of coupledom, which we certainly weren’t after just one date.
By the next meeting, he had taken to calling me honey. And sweetie. And baby. This was peppered with kissing my forehead and face, intermixed with “you’re so wonderful” and “I just adore you.”
Since then, we’ve been on five or six dates. I enjoy spending time with him, but I can’t say I look at him and see my unborn children. And while I thought I wanted a man who adores me as much as I hope to fancy him, I have to admit that all this affection has me a bit weirded out. Is he forcing it? How can he know me well enough to feel that way? To me, it’s like he’s assumed a level of intimacy that I don’t think we’ve earned as a couple, and it makes me wonder if it’s really about me or simply his desire to be in a relationship.
So my MIA friends, am I being fickle or is gut instinct the way to go? Have you had relationships where affection and “adoration” are instant, and instantly make you wonder why?
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By SlimOne
September 2, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
Hope everyone enjoyed their weekend
I have dated someone and they were a little too touchy feely for me. So I sort of agree on that being weird when I dude is acting like we’ve been together for some months off the rip.
By Miss A
September 2, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
I have to agree with you! It’s funny, most women want a man thats sincere, affectionate, tender, etc., but if he shows those emotions too soon, it kinda makes us leery. I am kinda in the same situation somewhat with the guy I am dating. The first date was very nice, but no sparks. But, he was not affectionate, and very much a gentleman, which I liked. It has been about 3-4 months, and we just recently shared a kiss - nothing too intimate, but nice. He did the forehead thing, but still no had holding in public. He still hasn’t tried to take it too far, and I am finding myself liking him more and more.
By Miss A
September 2, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this
I have to agree with you! It’s funny, most women want a man thats sincere, affectionate, tender, etc., but if he shows those emotions too soon, it kinda makes us leery. I am kinda in the same situation somewhat with the guy I am dating. The first date was very nice, but no sparks. But, he was not affectionate, and very much a gentleman, which I liked. It has been about 3-4 months, and we just recently shared a kiss - nothing too intimate, but nice. He did the forehead thing, but still no had holding in public. He still hasn’t tried to take it too far, and I am finding myself liking him more and more.
By C tha 1
September 2, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
This is funny!! Because I’m going through the same thing … the difference is that I’m a dude and a little bit older and more mature to handle an affectionate woman.
Are you being fickle? Well sorta … just tell dude to fall back with the affection, he means well, but you’re not there yet. You’ve been on five or six dates so you keep him around for something other than holding hands.
Personally I have realized that people simply communicate thier affection differently. Sometimes public displays of affection are cool … sometimes if feels like eeewwww. The girl I’m dating now is very affectionate and I’ve accepted it as apart of her personality.
We recently had a conversation about this where I told her that I wanted her to simply be herself, and if that included all the booed up affection giving I’m cool with it. But she has to understand that I do have my limits when it comes to excessive PDA.
At the end of the day my girl is a Giver … and I’m cool with that because I consider myself a Giver also, and it feels damn good to be on the receiving end this time.
Blanca, as I said before just let dude know that you’re not on the exact page that he’s on as far as giving affection. If he’s a reasonable dude he will understand and respond in kind. If you want to continue dating him and he still over does it with the affection without informing him then you’re simply leading him on.
By SlimOne
September 2, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Matter of fact, the last dude I went out on a date with gently placed his hand on my arm and asked If it would be okay if he held me….I said no. LOL! So he retreated and stated he respected that.
C tha 1 So what would be too much as far as PDA goes in your opinion?
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
Happy Tuesday Gang. Let’s hear some weekend roundups!
I have to agree with you! It’s funny, most women want a man thats sincere, affectionate, tender, etc., but if he shows those emotions too soon, it kinda makes us leery.
I’ve gotta agree with this! This hasn’t happend too soon to often, but when it has, it does creep me out. Also, when the pet names are applied too early (1st - 2nd date range) it can come off as condescending.
By Foots
September 2, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
Blanca I enjoy spending time with him, but I can’t say I look at him and see my unborn children.
Just ask yourself this: Would you be weirded out if this was the man you could see having your children with? Would it freak you out that this man wants a relationship if you were itching to be in a relationship with him?
If you can answer that honestly, you’ll know whether or not it’s the extra affection or the wrong guy. And you’ll know whether to either tell him to back up or keep it moving until you find someone who you feel a chemistry with.
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
Good morning everyone. Personally, I think holding hands is sweet even on the first date. However, pet names, forehead kisses, etc. shouldn’t appear on the first few dates.
Weekend roundup = boring a$$ bbq on Saturday. Left after 45 mins. Sunday went to a b-day party where the collards and cabbage were horrible. The fact that both were equally bad had me smdh! I made Monkey bread which was delicious. Monday consisted of relaxing and doing household chores.
By Foots
September 2, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
Amazon Let’s hear some weekend roundups!
Well, let’s see… We had a Girl’s Night Out Friday night at Straits. We didn’t do anything on Saturday, except make a Costco run and Target run and do a location switch back to my place. On Sunday, we rented a party boat on Lake Allatoona with our friends (I actually got in the water, which was surprisingly clean and warm); we’ll definitely have to do that again next year. On Monday, we just chilled out, alternating between eating, napping, watching TV and some other activities. ;-)
By abc
September 2, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
There’s nothing wrong with a guy that’s affectionate, but if you’re not feeling it too, then go with your gut.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
weekend round up: went to Indiana for social soccer with the boys,was back home monday morning at 7.30 am,had a family grill last nite with fam and my 2 brothers,then send the kids to bed and yes, i did the dishes and the clean up after they were gone,for a change! Great weekend allround. I will be back later when topic changes,hopefully then, we can talk about the trailer trash thats possibly coming to ur nearest white house. Go Mccain!!
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
Good morning everyone. Personally, I think holding hands is sweet even on the first date. However, pet names, forehead kisses, etc. shouldn’t appear on the first few dates.
Weekend roundup = boring a$$ bbq on Saturday. Left after 45 mins. Sunday went to a b-day party where the collards and cabbage were horrible. The fact that both were equally bad had me smdh! I made Monkey bread which was delicious. Monday consisted of relaxing and doing household chores.
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Foots, I see you and all your “we’s.” Glad things are going well!
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
This One is a tough call. I mean from a guy’s perspective how affectionate do you want to be on the early dates!? Some girls are more reserved than others. I’m not really forward on first date. Just taking it easy, enjoying company, etc. People that really try hard by being soooo affectionate comes across as either smothering, needy, or maybe a bit desperate. Something valued in the chase
By Dan
September 2, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
@Blanca
I’ve sooner made out with a guy than hold his hand…
Really, so intimate contact that could pass along any number of STD’s is okay, but, someone holding your hand gives you the creeps?
Wow.
This is the state of dating these days?
That statement right there…
By Mo (aka Moeisha)
September 2, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
Morning All! Hope everyone had a great weekend!!
Weekend Roundup: Had a blast all weekend! Chilled out yesterday cause Lil Mo wasnt feeling too swift but otherwise all was well.
On topic: being one that is not big on being smothered with affection too soon, I would have to tell old dude to slow his roll. It makes me uncomfortable when someone gets too affectionate too soon.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
On topic: holding hands or better yet,even stealing that 1st kiss on 1st date wld be cool.Im havinbg a date with you for a reason,im attracted and so if u are feeling me like that too,great.Getting laid on the 1ts date is the ultimate experience.But girls want to hold out longer,its in one of the laws in your secret black books! Guys will follow a wman’s lead and go with ur flow to a point,but we like instantaneous delights,preferably!
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
Good Day Everyone!
Blanca maybe this guy you do not want all this affection from is because your simply not “feeling” him. For me, someone i vibe with and chemistry is there i wouldn’t uncomfortable with those gestures. In fact i’d bubble with anxiousness when he does take may hand in that way. hmmmm Lol @ you not even THINKING that he could possibly be your future “baby daddy”.
and that brings me to Melo’s point…Mrs. Palin and her 17 year old daughter, have gotta be going through some high level of embarrasment right now. Some have stated the daughter was prego before. …but anyway…
Leggs NOT the bad tough collard greens and cabbage!!! Sorry you had to fix your palate for some “good good” and after tasting i’m sure you were like wth? monkey bread??? I’ve had some sweetpotato bread, but not monkey bread.
By Foots
September 2, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
Blanca I’ve sooner made out with a guy than hold his hand, which seems terribly tender and romantic and the stuff of coupledom, which we certainly weren’t after just one date.
I think that Dan has a valid observation. So the question for you is: Why is holding hands the “stuff of coupledom” for you, but making out is not? How could kissing and groping someone seem normal, but a man wanting to be sweet and tender by just holding your hand has you with all these question marks?? Could you define what Making Out involves and say why it doesn’t carry as much weight as hand holding with you?
Amazon LOL!! “We” is genderless!! But yeah, things are good. I was so proud of him on Sunday. He had to drive the boat and he never had done so before. (The guy that was supposed to drive bailed on us day of.) He was a complete natural and even the dudes on board were calling him “Cap’n”. I made sure to tell him all about what everybody was saying about how he came through for us and how we might have still be sitting at the marina if he hadn’t been there. LOL!! I think he could have died and went to Heaven satisfied at that moment because he got to be a real Hero.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
masturbation,peanut butter trick and dogss in one sentence.Is that beastiality? Grossssssssss!
By abc
September 2, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
I have to agree, melo, that the press on Mrs. Palin is pretty dismal. One must recall, though, that Obama himself was born to an 18 year old.
Just the same, I suspect the McCain campaign is lying about knowing about the teen pregnancy in advance. Palin’s quotes from 2 years or so ago about not knowing anything about Iraq due to concentrating on state politics is pretty stupid, too. I start to call McCain’s judgment into question, picking a potential successor of these qualities.
Besides, if her home plate is so full with a pregnant teen, a 5 month old Down’s Syndrome baby, and a young son headed for Iraq, what the heck is she doing running for VP? This is family values?
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
Im havinbg a date with you for a reason,im attracted and so if u are feeling me like that too,great.Getting laid on the 1ts date is the ultimate experience.
MELO I refute all that mess you say. Due diligence…stop, i say!
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
We” is genderless!!
Foots, sure it is, but you aren’t fooling anyone with it! ;-)
Go Cap’n!
By Blanca
September 2, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
Dan Really, so intimate contact that could pass along any number of STD’s is okay, but, someone holding your hand gives you the creeps?Wow.This is the state of dating these days?
Oh please, Dan. You’ve caught me on a bad day. I’m saying I have sooner shared a first kiss with someone than hold their hand. That’s right. To me, holding hands when you walk down the street or from place to place is indicative of a relationship and a truly intimate experience. This isn’t a hard and fast rule, but most commonly, I hold hands with a boyfriend - not just someone I go on one date with. I didn’t say I jump in the sack first, nor did I say I’m irresponsible when it comes to intimate contact. But thanks for your thoughts, just the same.
I’m inclined to agree with some others on the blog - this probably just means I’m not that into him.
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
I start to call McCain’s judgment into question, picking a potential successor of these qualities.
Well hey abc, at least she’s cute. I’m sure you’ll be kinder about her physical qualities than you were about Mrs. Obama. LOL
And the McCain camp had no clue about this pregnancy thing. Damage control to the max!
By C tha 1
September 2, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
Too much PDA differs from person to person. Personally, I’ve gotten better if ol’ girl wants to hold hands, or kiss in public … that’s nothing. It’s a matter of meeting a person half way on some things. When I warm up to the idea of PDA then I’m cool, but not straight off the rip! Slow down Tito Dayum!
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
Could you define what Making Out involves and say why it doesn’t carry as much weight as hand holding with you? Thanks to you and to Dan!
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
Ceemeli everyone is blasting Palin’s Daughter for being Preganant, but how does this affect her abilities!? I mean, Obama had a DWI in his earliest 20’s…who cares!
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
What I find quite funny is before announcing this pregnancy, her daughter was only seen holding the baby (probably a ploy to hide her pregnancy) during her acceptance of the nomination.
By RG in the SAV
September 2, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
A man who is overly pushy on the PDA early in the relationship, especially after you have said to him that it makes you feel uncomfortable, is doing it for HIM not for you. This can be the beginning of a pattern or trying to control you, especially if he doesn’t want to hang out with other people besides you, and if he wants to give you “suggestions” on what to wear, say, etc. that are veiled criticisms. Pay attention. If he doesn’t understand the awkwardness of PDA, he probably isn’t mature enough for an adult relationship regardless of whether he is trying to be controlling or not.
By abc
September 2, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
I’m familiar with the hand-holding phobia. Probably from being a parent, I’ve instinctively grabbed the hand of even just a female friend while crossing the street and gotten some negative feedback, if only body language. Course, I hold my girl’s hand all the time. I just like to.
Mrs. Palin does have a kind of naughty schoolteacher vibe going on, with the glasses and hair. Just think, if McCain drops dead after a year or so in office, the new President could be Miss Congeniality from 1984! Cracks me up.
By Blanca
September 2, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
Foots In my view making out means some healthy kissing action, and no, I don’t think I need (or want) to be in a relationship with someone to have a kiss fest. Obviously it’s great if the two go hand in hand (pun intended!), but that hasn’t always been a priority for me.
Holding hands, as I said in an earlier post, has historically meant something else for me and the people I’ve dated. It’s a sense of togetherness, a sweet gesture of care that for me goes beyond the simple lust involved in a kissing session. If we’re breaking this down to a micro-level, I’m not weirded out by someone touching my hand or gently holding it at dinner or something; I’m referring to (in this case) hand-holding all the time. Down the street. From table to table. From restaurant to car. In this case it seemed a little much, but that’s just me.
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
What Up Peepo?!
Just ask yourself this: Would you be weirded out if this was the man you could see having your children with? Would it freak you out that this man wants a relationship if you were itching to be in a relationship with him?
If you can answer that honestly, you’ll know whether or not it’s the extra affection or the wrong guy.
Thanks Foots
All you women with teen-aged daughters. Date some dude in your neighborhood. That way you can stay yo azz at home, and attend to your hot-in-the-pants-azz little angel.
My lil nephew’s been to school a grand total of 1 and 1/2 days and he’s already got two broads trying to get him over to YOUR cribs so that he can flat-back thei’ azz. So right about now, that’s two sets of parents that probably don’t even realize that they owe me a, “Thank You.”
…but I ain’t gon’ be able to hold him off for long.
By Blanca
September 2, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
AmazonRed And the McCain camp had no clue about this pregnancy thing. Damage control to the max! You really think so? My friends and I wondered about that, as well. I can’t imagine they didn’t know…what a gaffe if not!
By Dan
September 2, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
@Blanca
I think this is more indicative of a phobia of committment.
I dig that on a first date intimate gestures are a little creepy, but to me so is kissing. I don’t know you well enough to kiss you - no matter the chemistry.
But a man showing you affection somehow sends you running for the hills, while a man that is after the puddy is ok? Isn’t that the function of holding hands versus making out on a first date?
And while you “may not be feeling him” why keep going out with the dude without telling him how you feel/don’t feel?
I mean this whole post sounds like maybe you need to figure out want you want right now and go for it.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
Cee,due diligence is for longterm purposes….if the pudsy is given now,it should be taken!If the chic stays with you longer and you like her,that 1st date indulgence will be factored in the decision and may be forgiven.Usually happens if the girl is way better than the pudsy escapade on 1st date suggests.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
A Guy…Right, who cares? ‘Cuase i don’t give a flip about Palin daughter’s joy riding…she can have ten more and it wouldn’t bother me one way or the other.
Wow..Blue…Alright! Get to what’s really going on ‘round the way!
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
And the McCain camp had no clue about this pregnancy thing. Damage control to the max! You really think so? My friends and I wondered about that, as well. I can’t imagine they didn’t know…what a gaffe if not
Blanca, they couldn’t have known. The whole unwed teen mother thing flies right into the face with the whole family values thing. Jamie Lynn Spears got FRIED. You don’t want that kind of PR nightmare.
In addition, had they known, Bristol should have been married off at the courthouse by the time the VP announcement was made. That girl had no immediate plans to marry! She’s already 5-6 months along, plenty of time to do it if she really wanted to.
The Thinking Right blog is jumping today!
By Johnny Neptune
September 2, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
It’s all about communication, tell the guy what makes you comfortable and what doesn’t.
It’s cool to have your guard up, but at the same time, you don’t want the guy to emotionally shut down on you. There aren’t too many men who believe in chivalry, but in your case, he’s somewhat over the top with it. Just tell him what makes you feel comfortable and what doesn’t.
By Blanca
September 2, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
Dan And while you “may not be feeling him” why keep going out with the dude without telling him how you feel/don’t feel? Now that’s a point I agree with. The thing is, I’ve enjoyed spending time with him, though admittedly I haven’t had my socks knocked off. You are right - I should tell him how I feel about the uber-affection. My previous kiss fests aside, I’m trying to take relationships slow these days, and all that affection has me wondering if he’s not on the same page. I’m not a commitment phobe, but I am if I’m not sure it’s the right person. And that’s where I am with this guy.
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
ATL
People aren’t blasting her for having a pregnant teenage daugther. They are blasting her more for trying to hide it. Why not lay all of the cards out on the table from day one? Palin should have known that it would be found out eventually.
In reality, it speaks more to McCain than her and HIS judgment.
After reading more about him, I changed my mind about it being a good pick. It just looks like he made a hasty decision.
He had a recent physical, as all presidential candidates have, and his report is that he is expected to have 9 more healthy years to live. He turned just turned 72 last week, and has have to fight cancer multiple times. 9 years is just one more year than the max that he could be in office. He should have picked someone with more experience period.
He wanted to shore up the conservatives that didn’t think that he was conservative enough (there were many).
The only thing that makes me question her is the whole getting involved with her sister divorce stuff. (Trying to get her brother in law fired, but firing his boss for not firing the brother in law). It comes off as vindictive, and women have a rep of being as such. It doesn’t look good. Keep personal business out of the state’s business.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
abc,ared and bloggers are speculating that the little baby that is Palin’s cld be the daughter’s too.She had a long abscence from school last year, i believe, that is being questioned.Wonder if they wld be prepared to do a DNA.What more about them is out there?.This cld be a train wreck! The publicity will be unrelenting….
By SlimOne
September 2, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
The ajc ate my weekend recap.
By Foots
September 2, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
Blanca It’s a sense of togetherness, a sweet gesture of care that for me goes beyond the simple lust involved in a kissing session.
Okay, so simple lust is fine, but sweet togetherness and caring is a problem?
Where I come from, a kiss is intimate. It is touching your lips, and maybe tongues, with someone else’s. You don’t do that with just anybody. And when you kiss somebody deeply and lustfully, hands will naturally roam. It’s lust, right? So what you’re saying is that you don’t have a problem with or wouldn’t even question a man who wants to kiss you deeply with lust in his eyes and run his hands up and down your body, but you are afraid to have a man hold your hand, call you pet names and kiss your forehead. In other words, show some investment in you beyond just lust.
But if this was really a case of too much affection too fast, then EVERYTHING would be too much for you. What the other ladies are basically saying is that if it’s too soon for affection or if they aren’t feeling a dude, kissing the dude would be the next to last thing they would do, and letting his hands roam their bodies would be the last.
If you are okay with kissing and rubbing, but not sweetness and caring, maybe Dan has it right. Again.
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
This topic mirrors is right on time… Just this morning I was wondering if I made the right decision over the weekend. I had a very long first date on Sunday, I mean everything went well and we ended up spending the entire afternoon and night out bar hopping and eating. We were definitely feeling each other, but there were a couple of moments when I got the idea that she wanted to hold hands or do other things that to me were a little too “couple-ish” for me at the time… Now I am all for the PDA or holding hands but not on the first date… But the night continued to go well and I made it clear that I enjoyed her company and we spoke on the phone later that evening (morning actually) and all was good… But 2 days later and I have not heard a peep from her, So I am wondering if perhaps she thought I was not interested since I did not follow her queues to show more affection.
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
abc,ared and bloggers are speculating that the little baby that is Palin’s cld be the daughter’s too
melo, that was last weeks rumor that led to this announcement. However, I think the math doesn’t quite work out for the girl to be pregnant again. Though it’s all fishy as hell.
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Blanca
From my perspective, it looks like you have unconsciously put him in the friend zone. You keep mentioning the lack of sparks. So apparently that is important to you. It is missing and you doubt your romantic interest in him, but not a relationship interest. Friendship is still a relationship.
Communication is key. Simply put, you guys aren’t on the same page.
Neither of you can read minds. The two you need to talk and each of you need access and then make the decision that is right for each of you.
By Staceye AKA Black Mamba
September 2, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
ARED weekend round up..let’s see…found out that somebody I “thought” was my friend is really a selfish b*tch! Oh and yeah..I am now on crutchces! I knew I should have gone to Paris….but no I decided to postpone it! *&^%$# How was yours? LOL
*Leggs May I ask what Monkey bread is? Its doe not sounds edible! LOL
Just think, if McCain drops dead after a year or so in office, the new President could be Miss Congeniality from 1984! Cracks me up. Good on ABC!!! LOL
Blanca I am so not the affectionate person anymore. I used to be…but now any type of touch and a guy immediately thinks you want to have sex. So I don’t even want to kiss or hold hands or do anything more than the church hug with a dude unless I am ready to get busy! It is sad that it had come to that!
Ared Did you hera that Palin’s last baby, who had down syndrome may actually be her grandson and not her son! She did not annouce her pregnancy until she was “7 months” along. But it just so happened that her then 15 year old daughter Bristol was home from school for 5 months for “mono”. Mono lasts 2 months tops! How convenient! Sounds like she can’t control her hot in the azz daughter but she wants to be 2nd in command for our country?!? Hellz no!
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
It comes off as vindictive, and women have a rep of being as such. It doesn’t look good.
well, well PoppaG imma give you a chance to disclaim this statment to say that ‘some’ women are vindictive. I think you missed breakfast before posting….i’m just starting my breakfast too.
Keep personal business out of the state’s business.
I agree.
If the chic stays with you longer and you like her, that 1st date indulgence will be factored in the decision and may be forgiven.
Melo hmmm, i’m still tryna find a rebuttal…but i just may let this ride as is. which is wierd because i dunno why lately i’ve been corresponding with your thinking Dang!!! …btw soccor has a place in my heart, inlaw would play @ Piedmont alot, and my lil guy quit after 2 seasons… Did family attend the Indiana trip with u? Was this trip a tournament?
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
Staceye - What did you do to get on crutches? Get well soon!
My roundup: 1. Saturday - Went to a friends pool party. Topped off the night playing adult versions of games like truth or dare. 2. Sunday - Flew to one of my college FB games. Flew home in time to head to a party at one of the hot spots in town. 3. Monday - Went to a friends bbq. Watched football games w/ Beau and ate ice cream!
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
Cee
well, well PoppaG imma give you a chance to disclaim this statment to say that ‘some’ women are vindictive.
I will amend my statement. ALL women are vindictive: hence the woman’s scorn saying…lol
Is that better?
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
I’m really amazed so many people are blasting Palin on her daughter having a baby! Why drag her personal family into Politics anyways, its just smear tactics. The fact Obama’s dad left him and he was raised by an 18 year old single mom, will not make me hold that against him. Nor, would I care about his wife or kids.
Easy move would be to Abort the child…but speaking of family values, this is a commendable move to care for the child and her daughter will marry the guy.
What I do like about Palin is how she is a hardliner against special interest republican groups. McCain has a history of going against the grain of Republicans as well. I can respect that.
Her daughter having a baby is irrelevant
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Blanca so far, do you think it’s the chemistry/vibe with this guy or have you come to realize, you are overwhelmed with this/his over affection?
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
I’m really amazed so many people are blasting Palin on her daughter having a baby!
They are getting blasted because Republican’s are pretty good at blasting girls in similar situations.
Had they taken this “no big deal” stance from the beginning, there’d probably be a different outcome.
It’s just desserts.
By Staceye AKA Black Mamba
September 2, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Ared As adventourous as I am you would think I’d end up on crutches from a motorcycle, a cliff dive, etc…no. Atlanta’s notorious broken sidewalks and I my heel had a meeting and did not like each other. Staceye went down, foot rocked over to the left and ligaments were torn. But I did not know how bad it was until after I got home and took my shoes off and tried to walk flat. I fell on my face (no damage there though) LOL. I am going home to NY on Thursday for a my girl’s bachelorette. I am still going to dance at each club….even if I can rock my new heels. I can wrap my foot and wear my sexy ankle boots to cover it and still get my party on. As long as I keep my vicodin with me…I will be pain free. Who says you can’t drink while on Vicodin. I did and I am just fine! LOL Hey at least I know not to take my Ambien with it! I am not trying to be the next Heath Ledger…have my work come out after I die! No thanks!
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
ATL
There is a double standard though. Obama’s dad leaving is one thing. However, conservative base could see Palin as being too busy to even control her teenage daughter.
It isn’t the right thing to do, but that is how politics go. It is a dirty game. Unfortunately, family gets dragged into also.
One of the current President’s twin girls tried to get alcohol while they were underage? Didn’t work, but the word got out. Most kids do that kind of stuff but it got out because of who that daddy was.
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
ARED where did you fly to?? Who’s your team!?
By MELO
September 2, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
Did family attend the Indiana trip with u? Was this trip a tournament? No and Yes. Boys just wanna have fun too,but there were no naughty escapades,Indianapolis is so full of ghetto girlz and rednecks anyway.lol But wify did ask to go when i told her about trip and i told her NO!(she is alwayz looking out to ward off competitors) I took her to dallas three weeks back so she had no ammo…..
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Foots If you are okay with kissing and rubbing, but not sweetness and caring, maybe Dan has it right. Again.
Yeap, looks like ol’ Dan-0 called that strike.
Blog Ladies - How many of you are throwing tongue down some dude’s throat that you know ain’t feelin’ like that?
Political Tip: What about the knucklehead boyfriend dude and the myspace page where dude says that he doesn’t want the baby and wants old girl to get rid of it. What does that do for the Republicans and their anti-abortion rhetoric?
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
ARED where did you fly to?? Who’s your team!?
My team is the California Golden Bears. But I work in sports marketing and part of my job involves flying to college football games throughout the season on behalf of my clients.
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Staceye
I feel for ya. I’ve had the crutch life many times. My junior year of high school was spent on crutches. I was on them for 8 1/2 months. So, keep ya head up.
By t-man
September 2, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
What a tough crowd…If you can’t even score a hand hold…give up!
By MLL
September 2, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
Good moring Good People, Being affectionate on the first date for me would be too overwhelming. I’ve had dates that dayum near shoved his tongue down my throat and I’ve had others that was very slick about their affection getting a quick feel of my butt and hugging close to feel my boobs. Men are men and some will try. I like affection and I’m an affectionate person but there is a time a place for that and on a first date should not be one of them. I feel like this if you can hug and kiss me behind close doors than you shouldn’t have a problem doing it in the open.
On Palin: I think the baby is Willow’s the 14 year old daughter. Although it’s possible for it to be Bristols we can’t over look the other daughter, I don’t believe it’s Palin’s baby for the fact she knew she had a high risk pregnancy, here water broke and she continued to give her 30min speech, got on a plane for an 11 hour flight from Texas to Alaska, admit herself in the hospital, had the baby and back on the job in 3 days…no way is that possible.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
got dangit, PoppaG, i and some other women are not vindictive!
Lol, If i venture to say All men are dogs. would i be lying?
Sidenote: I just got a memo on 2008 SAT Scores by race and ethnicity, Indian, Caucasians, and Asians scored the highest followed by African American then Hispanic.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Her daughter having a baby is irrelevant yeah,may be it speaks volumes about how she manages her family bizness.I wld interpret that to mean she is too busy chasing power and influence and has no time to impart so called family values to her kids;her son has a DUI by the way. Wld Republicans have said No big deal if this were Chelsea Clinton pregnant at 17.Think Not,a 1000 x!
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
Its COLD in Alaska…gotta stay warm somehow!
By SlimOne
September 2, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
Blanca Long story short, I just don’t think you’re really into this guy. He’s a time waster for you…he’s a Tweenie for you—> just something to occupy some time & give you something to do.
Weekend re-recap
Went to Bama to visit folks. Sister’s belly is growing bigger..saw all the baby stuff she’s bought already and it let me know at that moment that I’m still not ready for all this. Sunday hung out with a buddy at Atlantic station dranking wine all night…Monday chilled at the crib being a Orny couch potato
By Atl Lady
September 2, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
Good Morning All Weekend round up. Let’s just say I sinned. I ate too much and drank even more. I hadn’t had so much fun in a long time. Father’s side of the family had their reunion this week and just enjoyed myself immensely. Went to Selma, Alabama for a day to spend time with relatives on my mom’s side. Ate and drank there too. Got my brother to drive me home.
On Topic I don’t mind hand holding on the first date, but after we’ve spent more time together some acts of affection are welcome. It depends on where we are in the relationship.
Off Topic @ Atl Guy. The reason why it’s such a big deal to some is the hypocrisy factor. One of the platforms that a lot of Republican leaders love to run for office on is being morally correct and sound. They claim to be against a lot of things because it’s against the Bible and Christianity and there’s no room for too much else. However, they have the same problems that everyone else has with their kids. Cheney’s daughter is openly gay. Bush’s kids got busted multiple times for under-aged drinking. Throwing rocks at Clinton and the Democrats, but has skeletons in their own closets. Frankly speaking, I believe the rumor that Palin’s youngest child is really her daughter’s. It’s not the first time in history that a mother tried to cover for her daughter.
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
First, GMA reported that McCain was very aware of her daughter’s pregnancy. Think about it. How could he not have been. Of course, Mrs. Palin told him!
Funny you post that BK. My daughter’s b-day was this past Friday (14) and yesterday the boy next door comes over to wish her a happy b-day. Later on that evening all the kids are playing in the cul-de-sac and he rings my bell asking is she can come out. She quickly changes clothes and goes outside. He’s the one I’m gonna watch!
Monkey Bread is a pastry. This is how I made it:
1 Bundt pan 4 cans of 10 mini biscuits (40) (although I only used 30 yesterday) 1 cup of brown sugar 1 cup of white sugar 1/2 cup of cinnamon 1/2 stick of butter
Cut biscuits into four. Mix cinnamon and sugar in plastic bag. Place biscuit pieces in bag and shake (not all at the same time). Stack entirely around bundt pan.
In small pot put butter and brown sugar. Stir until sugar and butter hs melted. Pour over your cinnamon/sugar coated biscuits and bake for at 350 degrees for 45 mins. Viola Monkey Bread!
By Staceye AKA Black Mamba
September 2, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
ABC You know if Obama’s daughters were old enough to get pregnant they would have a field day with it and call her a Baby Mama. But because it’ not his daughter being hot in the azz, its a personal matter and should not effect the political life of her mom. Sounds like a white wash to me! LOl
Poppa 8 1/2 months of this..I would shoot myself! LOL
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
Cee
got dangit, PoppaG, i and some other women are not vindictive!
LOL, that’s why I said some to begin with. However, it is a stereotype of women just as men being dogs is…lol
ATL
Rush and O’Reilly have said things similar to Melo’s 11:06 post. If she is getting blasted by them.
By Barbara
September 2, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
I had a first date last weekend and it was wonderful. He was so respectful and kind, when entering his SUV, he held my hand to help me enter and exit the vehicle and as we walked he kept his hand in the small of my back. It was sweet and I didn’t mind the tounch and feel of this man. When you’re attracted to a person and they feel the same, hand holding and polite touching is the icing on the cake. On the other hand, when you’re not really into a person and its just a going through the motion situation, then its creepy and unwanted.
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
Poppa 8 1/2 months of this..I would shoot myself! LOL
First I tore some ligament in one ankle (really bad..I still have screws in it) and then I torn an ACL of the other leg. It really stunk.
On the good side of it, my biceps and triceps got very big and defined from the use of the crutches.
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
ARED thats awesome! Sports Marketing is way cool. My degree is Business Marketing and work for a tech company right now. You have any positions in Sports Marketing!?!? Haha, I would do amazing in that field!
By MELO
September 2, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
when entering his SUV, he held my hand to help me enter and exit the vehicle and as we walked he kept his hand in the small of my back. HAHAHA….dont be flattered,if i were you.You small back is sensitive and he’s working his way,slowly..to ur inner thighs…he smart!
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
You have any positions in Sports Marketing!?!? Haha, I would do amazing in that field!
ATL Guy, remember, my field is a lot of fun and a lot of perks, but not a lot of pay! I don’t think you could maintain the lifestyle you are currently accustomed to on my salary. LOL
But yeah, it’s cool. I get to go to the NCAA Tournament/Final Fours and go to a lot of bowl games. I went to the Orange Bowl in January and froze my arse off!
By Chelle
September 2, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
The same thing just happened to me! After dinner (our first date) he held my hand in the car on the way home. I was also thrown, but I thought it was nice. The question is, is he doing this because he likes YOU or because he’s very affectionate with everybody?
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Cee got dangit, PoppaG, i and some other women are not vindictive!
Yeah right.
Leggs …and he rings my bell asking is she can come out. She quickly changes clothes and goes outside. He’s the one I’m gonna watch!
I’ve had a couple of chicks tell me that it’s the teen females that are the aggressors, but I hadn’t really paid it much attention. So I see my boy can’t put that damn phone down all weekend, so I’m like, “Pass it over.” …thinking to myself: good time for a check-up, see what my man is up to.
So I’m reading the texts and I’m like dayum youngin’. I gotta admit, I was a little surprised at some of the things that these little girls were saying to dude. So I ask him who all these broads are. So he’s like a couple from home, and the rest from here. So then I’m like, “Well dayum yo, you ain’t been in this camp long enough to be rollin’ like that!”
So I told him, “You don’t need to be out here sexin’, but if you gon’ be dumb, don’t be stupid,” at which point, I proceeded to cut into my condom stash, and told him to make sure that he stays prepared.
My only question now is do I do the responsible parent thing and call up the parents and tell them how much of a freak their little babygirl really is? …’cause I know that she’s gon’ lie and they ain’t gon’ believe me.
By Chelle
September 2, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
The same thing just happened to me! After dinner (our first date) he held my hand in the car on the way home. I was also thrown, but I thought it was nice. The question is, is he doing this because he likes YOU or because he’s very affectionate with everybody?
By Last Word
September 2, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!
By Chelle
September 2, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
The same thing just happened to me! After dinner (our first date) he held my hand in the car on the way home. I was also thrown, but I thought it was nice. The question is, is he doing this because he likes YOU or because he’s very affectionate with everybody?
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Leggs
I remember my grandma used to make monkey bread and tea cakes quite often. Moreso in the winter with her tea or coffee but she made them alot.
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
ARED I hear ya. VP of my company dropped of the NCAA Basketball tickets to me last year for the Semi Finals in the Dome and Finals in the Dome. It was Awesome! So I’m drinking crown and coke cola with my friend before jumping on MARTA. The train stops right before N. Ave station. We’re waiting there for like 20 mins. At this point I really need to take a p** (because of all the crown and coke I drank) so I’m looking around like “where on this crowded MARTA will I take a P**!?” Haha! Desperate times! Held out long enough then stopped by a Hotel to let it flow! Rough situation though, not knowing how long you’ll be waiting for!
By abc
September 2, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
Regarding speculation that Mrs. Palin’s Downs baby is also her daughters, melo: the baby is 5 months old, her daughter is 5 months pregnant. Do the math.
ATL_Guy, not aborting the baby would be a Christian moral issue for the Palins, they’re Pentecostal, Assembly of God, I think. Family Values would have more to do with being there for the family rather than becoming consumed by a job such as Vice President.
Mind you, I’ve been pretty sure I was voting for McCain. His VP choice is giving me pause. She’s also the one who wanted to go banning books in the Public Library when she was mayor due to language in them. The press on Palin is getting pretty thick.
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
I went to the Orange Bowl in January and froze my arse off! Was it worth it???? I can’t get with cold weather!
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
Cee now attempting to lash out at PoppaG, because she does not want to be a work today!
…today im the chic @ Burger King that really don’t wanna be there.
PoppaG nah bruh, you said all women are vindictive? Why would you say that?
sneaky grin
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
BK
I’e heard that too from some of the Little Bros. The girls are aggressive and competing for the guya and each girl ups the ante.
Meanwhile, the boy sits back and takes it as it comes. No real pursuit has to take place for the boys.
AS one little bro told me “it little comes to me…”
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
My only question now is do I do the responsible parent thing and call up the parents and tell them how much of a freak their little babygirl really is? …’cause I know that she’s gon’ lie and they ain’t gon’ believe me.
BK, it really depends on the mama. I’d want to know, but then again, I’d be snooping thru my kids stuff with no shame. So hopefully I’d know I had a hot to trot kid!
How old is your son?
By Dan
September 2, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
As the gentleman that I am, I will hold a woman’s hand in situations that are necessary (crossing the street, walking in a really crowded place, as she gets out of the car, etc.).
When doing this, the refrain is “why’d [you] let go so quickly?” And Blanca post is the reason. While it’s my duty while in my presence to protect you (to a certain degree), to avoid being “that dude” I’ll forgo any other contact once the protection is no longer necessary.
But in an effort to avoid further confusion, I’ll send out the warning to the brothers that are still dating, that physical contact is to be intiated by the woman. Let her reach for your hand while the car is coming, so you don’t end up as “that guy”
By Dan
September 2, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
@PG
And where do you suppose the little ladies are getting those habits from?
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
AR
Even though the Orange Bowl is in Miami, it was still January and there is the potential for a chilly snap.
I’ve spent a number of New Years Eve/Days on South Beach & some have been warmer than others. You just gotta be prepared. One was as warm as 87 degrees and another was as chilly as 55 degrees.
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
BK, I check my child’s text msgs every couple of days. Her phone stays in my room at night, every night. I’m on her myspace page regularly. What I’ve done with these fast a$$ girls is call them on their text msgs and their behavior. Told them first time is a warning from me, next time it will be chastisement from their parents. Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m watching my little one as well.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
the baby is 5 months old, her daughter is 5 months pregnant. Do the math. Assuming that is true….. I luv the press she is getting tho…the convention might just get drowned out by this Plin trash……and with that,Mccain’s message.
By mytwocents
September 2, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
Blanca, sweetie, if you can’t verbalize a desire to hold off on the hand-holding, how do you deter them from breast grazing, hip holding or panty peeling? It’s okay to be vocal bout your boundaries and in fact, much more courteous. That way you’re vindicated (PG, that’s for you) should you be forced to take further measures to get your point across. As for me - I. Need. My. Space. But welcome those who make me not want it.
BK There really need not be a tongue related exchange of any kind when you ain’t quite or are pretty damnn sure there ain’ no fire in that hearth. At least I’m foolish enough to believe so… But I got some faulty thinkin folk who say otherwise when I’m stuck. Thinkin and why come there was a taste test if s/he ain’t excite yo palate in the first place?
MamaL Are you part of the couple in front of me that I wanna go ahead & book the honeymoon suite for? Lawd!
It’s suspect of them to stress how far along the girl is supposed to be. Clearly to dispel the previous rumor…and even if both camps take ‘the high road’, our beloved media will not & the saga will continue.
By Staceye AKA Black Mamba
September 2, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
Poppa You knwo I am sitting here trying to figure out how to work out while injured. I got it now..I can do weights, no squats or cardio. But at least I can get something done. That fear of fat got a sista’ going nuts over here! LOL
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
Was it worth it???? I can’t get with cold weather!
Leggs, it’s my job. I had to go. Besides, the Orange Bowl is in Miami. Who knew it would be 32 degrees that day? LOL.
It’s all worth it. I’ve seen some amazing and historic games in my lifetime. The energy in the crowd and on the field is one of the best feelings in the world.
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
ABC you are right, this is an interesting choice. From what I know about her, she does seem very pro-active and would be interested in enhancing the country rather than cap on her own interests. Truth will come out about this D.S. 5 month old child. I mean you can’t really cover that up, people would know if you were pregnant or not. Regardless, its hard to judge her by saying she’s too involved with her job to care for her family. Doubt thats the case. Obama will be consumed with his job and be away from his young daughters all the time!
Truth is…we won’t be talking about this next month. Its really not that relevant. I personally care more about the issues that will affect the country rather than her daughters actions with her b/f.
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Staceye, why at the b-day party the first thing the host said to me when se saw me was “damn your a$$ is finally growing!” Oh boy!
BK, why did some boy tell my child she’s the prettiest girl in the subdivision. When she told me that I said don’t believe him. For one thing he doesn’t know every girl in the subdivision and for another, he’s flattering you for the kill. She and I both laughed. After laughing told her I was serious!!!
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
Blue…Lol. Bruh, you say we’re all malicious?
Cee now looking around the back of her moniter all funnyfaced…It caint be Blue going the way of a Bitter Bish…
lemme reboot my joint. when my joint comes back up imma be looking for you to bring me sumthin’ top shelf and restating that mess.
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
Never been to a football game, but I hear about the “energy of the crowd” a lot.
By Dan
September 2, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
I will ask you ATL Guy and ABC the same question that I asked Jim Wooten (that somehow got lost):
If this were Barack Obama’s daughter would your “privacy concerns” prevent you from attacking him as a lackluster parent, not fit to lead as he can’t control his own family?
Or is it just Republicans that have kids out of wedlock, gay trysts, and flings with prostitutes.
By outahere
September 2, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
Look, it does not take that long to know if you like someone or not. If it takes you weeks to figure out whether or not you want him to hold your hand, you should ditch the relationship and look for one where you KNOW you like the guy. Maybe you are looking lifestyle things he possesses first? Car, job, etc? Just find someone you like. Otherwise you will be 47 before you get married. Don’t laugh, many women are getting married at 40 these days.
By abc
September 2, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
I don’t know Atl_Guy, now this story about wanting to ban books while mayor, the McCain campaign is about to lose my vote.
This is the worst Presidential election season, as far as the candidates are concerned, that I can recall.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
My only question now is do I do the responsible parent thing and call up the parents and tell them how much of a freak their little babygirl really is?
Blue Now you know first when you mention any of the freakness the child has said/text to your nephew, the parents are going to be in denial about their Angel. But regardless of that, the right thing for you to do is go ahead and tell the parent. If later on down the line baby girl is pregnant then they can never say they didn’t have prior warning.
whew…i have a fast one in my family and she learned her lesson with that sassy foolishness
mytwo How the heck are ya?
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
Never been to a football game, but I hear about the “energy of the crowd” a lot.
Leggs, I probably get hyped about it because I never played organized sports and probably should have! Being a freshman and going to the football games in college were some of the most exciting times of my college career. I’m sure your daughter gets a rush hearing the roar of the crowd when she zooms around the track.
I bet Poppa Grande can speak on that euphoria when they are in the tunnel and rush out onto the field. That was my absolute FAVORITE part of all the Falcon games I went to when I used to work with the team. I wonder what it’s like to actually do it, instead of just watching it.
By Bit-O-Hunny
September 2, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
Weekend recap went home (B’ham, AL) to spend time with family and friends who were also home for the holiday. Drank more Merlot than I probably should have and totally indulged in pizza of all things, but had a wonderful time. No regrets whatsoever.
On Palin the 5-month old is her daughter’s child. That’s obvious. Is it material to her candidacy for VP? Yes and No. It sounds like there is a whole hella lot going on at home, can she afford to run the country and loose her family? For those supporting the McCain/Palin ticket can you sincerely say that you have no doubts about her leadership abilities? I mean, you can pretty much count McCain dead in the next 4-7 years and she’s the leader? If that’s what people want for these United States then we are doomed as a nation! Obama/Biden ‘08
By outahere
September 2, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
Look, it does not take that long to know if you like someone or not. If it takes you weeks to figure out whether or not you want him to hold your hand, you should ditch the relationship and look for one where you KNOW you like the guy. Maybe you are looking lifestyle things he possesses first? Car, job, etc? Just find someone you like. Otherwise you will be 47 before you get married. Don’t laugh, many women are getting married at 40 these days.
By MLL
September 2, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
Some men do have adjenda’s when it comes to affections thinking that holding hands are opneners to a kiss and then doing the do. Guys yoy know the trick hold her hands while kissing her manuvering her hands to the joy stick lol
Mytwo…it wasn’t me,,,then again,,,hmmmm
Hey Leggs…..staying otta troubl? LOL
By mytwocents
September 2, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
Cemeeli I’m well, thanks. And yourself? Sounding a lil Afeni Shakur with it, madam.
Atl Lady Were you still able to shut the spades table down w/ belly filled & blurry eyes?
By MLL
September 2, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
Some men do have adjenda’s when it comes to affections thinking that holding hands are opneners to a kiss and then doing the do. Guys you know the trick hold her hands while kissing her manuvering her hands to the joy stick lol
Mytwo…it wasn’t me,,,then again,,,hmmmm
Hey Leggs…..staying otta trouble? LOL
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
You are absolutely right ARed, she does like the rush!
BK, perhaps this may help. A few years back on a very cold and breezy morning I was gazing out my kitchen window. While talking on the phone I noticed what I thought to be a tree limb bobbing on my neighbor’s airconditioning. I looked away only to look back again. It was a young girl and a young boy having sex! HAVING SEX IN THE BACK OF A HOUSE ON A COLD AIR CONIDTIONING UNIT (If this doesn’t speall low self-esteem I don’t know what does). Anyway, the boy ran when I opened my window and yelled at them. The girl wouldn’t come into my house because her parents forbade her from going into strangers homes. WTF!!! I told her to get her narrow behind in my house. She came unwillingly. Told her she’s abiding by her parents wishes in not going to strangers homes, but what did they tell you about having sex outside on someone’s airconditioning. Asked where she lived. Yes, she lied. Other kids in the neighborhood knew her so that’s how I found out her address. Yes, I drove her directly to her home. Mother never came downstairs (red flag) and father about threw himself on the floor in a fit at his daughter having sex. Point is, nothing wrong w/squelling on these young, hot a$$ kids. No doubt this wasn’t her first time.
By Beautiful
September 2, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
Blue_Kolla i am going thru the same thing right now. kels and i go to church regularly. when we get into the car to leave, he always shows me the notes that were given to him. do you have myspace? do you have a cell phone? you are so cute! first of all, if your parents are members, why you on myspace? i went straight to the pastor’s wife who is my play mom. we spoke about it over dinner and she told me that if it gets outta hand (like the stuff you read on lil man’s phone) to go back to her and we’ll get with the parents. i said bet!
as soon as the male birth control pill hits the shelves, kels on it!
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
MLL, hey there. Funny you asked, I was looking for trouble this entire weekend and didn’t find any (LOL). Main reason why I left that bbq. Staying there was much like watching a balloon float through the air. Gets tedious after a while!
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
mytwo I’m swell, would be better if i was at home watching a Lifetime Hit gnawing one some smunchies.
Alfeni Shakur?
By SexyCool - SuccessWithActionToday.ws
September 2, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
i have never considered hand holding as all that intimate…
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
Pop That’s the same thing that I told dude, “Damn champ, you ain’t gotta do jack except stand on the ready line and wait. LMAO. My one mind was to tell him “Go’ead, tear ‘em up.” But the Responsible Blue prevailed and told him to chill, be careful, NO KIDS, blah blah. Hayo, the one with the sense - doing good in school, doesn’t like dudes with baggy pants, etc. - is just like the other ones when it comes to getting her back knocked out. Then talkin’ about how she doesn’t want to get her heart broken again. I’m looking at the text like, “What?! You ain’t but 15! WTF is going on here?!”
The real funny is that these kids have the same problems that you grown-up broads on this blog have. LOL
2 Cent There really need not be a tongue related exchange of any kind when you ain’t quite or are pretty damnn sure there ain’ no fire in that hearth. At least I’m foolish enough to believe so…
I was just wondering what women thought about this, because if I got my mouth on you, then I’ve probably also got a hand full of t!ttie, a hand full of azz, and/or a finger covered in (and with your total approval by the way)… anyway, you know what I mean. …and you trippin’ ‘cause I held your hand?! I don’t get that logic.
Cee Lol. Bruh, you say we’re all malicious?
No vindictive; the two are not quite interchangeable.
Ared Nephew.
Leggs/Ared/Rest of Yoll I’m just saying that peeps need to really teach their girls that only a MAN that has proven himself worthy, should get the draws, minimum age being 21; because I don’t want to see you at my door talking talking about my man put a bun in your girl’s oven.
By Foots
September 2, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Blue Meanwhile, the boy sits back and takes it as it comes. No real pursuit has to take place for the boys.
Sounds a lot like dating as an adult. So if it’s that bad out here NOW with these men just letting the ladies compete for their attention, can you imagine what it’s going to be like for our daughters and nieces?? I don’t care who gets to decide worth, but one thing I do know: If you don’t think you are worth anything, other folks will definitely follow your lead.
Dan But in an effort to avoid further confusion, I’ll send out the warning to the brothers that are still dating, that physical contact is to be intiated by the woman.
LOL!! I don’t know if it has to go THAT far, but I can see why men are confused.
All people give off non-verbal clues, so dudes (and women) have to learn how to look for those to see if further contact is warranted. Check this out:
A. If the lady is walking beside you and has her arms folded or her hands in her pockets, ask her if she’s cold. If she says no, then she’s hiding her hands so you can’t hold them. If she is also walking two feet to your left or right, it’s not the right time either.
B. If the lady is walking beside you and keeps brushing you with her hand, keeps bumping into you, or holds your arm, she’s establishing physical contact. It’s okay to hold her hand.
Now that’s easy like Staples. Every person is different and their attraction level to you will be different. The thing is, just pay attention to her signals if you don’t know what to do.
By shine
September 2, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
Good Afternoon. I had a first date with a guy over the weekend, although I knew him in HS, we didnt really know each other back in & its been alot of years, but when we went out, the chemisty was like we known/been involved for a while. I think if u were really attractive to him u wouldnt have a problem with it. Ive felt the same way u did with guys I didnt have that chemistry with,
By Beautiful
September 2, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
blanca do you like this guy? i don’t think you do. it seems to me that you’re looking for something other than love. whatcha lookin’ for?
By MLL
September 2, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
I hear ya Leggs I didn’t get into any trouble either LOL basically stayed low catching up with friends and family and all this drama from the Palin family…..
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
Leggs The kids were actually having sex on an A/C unit?…good grief!!! Did you have the “he/she could of at least” speech with the young lady? they didn’t have enought decency to take it to a private place.
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
BK, okay how old is your nephew? :-/
By abc
September 2, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
Dan, I don’t have any issues of privacy concerning Mrs. Palin, personally. Speculation that if Obama’s little girls were in question is rather moot. His statements regarding Mrs. Palin’s issues being off limits speak for themselves — and as far as that goes, asserting such a stance is quite favorable in the face of apparent Republican stupidity and lying.
Bit-o-Hunny, the 5 month old Downs baby is not the teenager’s child. That’s ridiculous. Think about it.
Now what, though… here’s another group of Republicans bumbling and lying their way through idiocy, vs. a group of Democrats that tapdance around every question and offer vague promises of a gravy train for all. What an old story. This might be the first election I’ve sat out since I was 18 — I can’t honestly say that I endorse either side.
Now, when a person can’t really endorse either candidate, I don’t think that the old adage of “if you don’t vote you can’t speak out” applies.
By Staceye AKA Black Mamba
September 2, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
ABC This is the worst Presidential election season, as far as the candidates are concerned, that I can recall. Then your memory must suck! Let’s see anything race with a Bush involved was the worst for me. I would have voted for Bubbles the Monkey before I cast my vote for either of them. Bush Jr. is just the biggest Wanker! If McCain wins the US will continue to slide into hell on lard covered sliding board!
MLL Guys you know the trick hold her hands while kissing her manuvering her hands to the joy stick lol Oh girl that grosses me out. Don’t put my hand on your dizznick. I know where it is and if I wanted to touch it I would. It makes me think of an old perv trying to make me touch him! That is the quickest way to NEVER get me in bed with you. I will never want you after that!
By Do some homework
September 2, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
I understand feeling “weird out” by someone showing immediate affection. It either comes across as despite or artificial (which is worst than being a serious flirt). I will run for the hills if you start calling me with “pet names” after one date.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Blue interchangable.
Malicious = motivated by or resulting from a desire to cause harm or pain to another
Vindictive = looking for revenge or done through a desire for revenge. To punish, hurt or show pain to someone.
come again with top shelf!
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
I am hoping that’s what I’m teaching the one under my watch. I give it to her real…these little boys don’t care diddly squat about you. All they want is what’s between your legs. Also informed her that at 15, 16, 17, 18 even 19 you guys don’t know anything about having sex and are clueless on the meaning of “making love.” Ok, maybe 19 you may have learned a thing or two (but I didn’t say this to her)!!!
Also, from what I’ve seen, read, and overhead, boys just have to sit in the cut and wait it out. Girls are flouncing on boys w/no work on the boys part to get with her. It’s disgraceful!!!!
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
Now, when a person can’t really endorse either candidate, I don’t think that the old adage of “if you don’t vote you can’t speak out” applies.
abc, of course it does. Who says you have to vote for McCain or Obama? Chose someone else or write in your own - it’s your vote. Sitting it out is just stupid and does absolve you from the right to complain.
You’ve been off your game lately!
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Yes, I definitely had the talk. Told her he didn’t even respect her enuf to provide her with a mattress. Told her to never let a young boy nor a man disrespect her like that again. Told her to look around, where’s the boy…he ran and left you standing here! You were nothing but easy puddy. Didn’t mean he even liked you. I’ve seen her over the years and no baby yet!
By Atl Lady
September 2, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this
MyTwoCents Were you watching me? lololol Some were playing dominos at one table, Gin Rummy at another table, and Spades at the other. So you know after everybody had a few drinks it was loud and rowdy. We got our older niece and cousin (18 & 25) to entertain the little ones while this foolishness and potential mayhem was going on.
By abc
September 2, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
AR, writing in a candidate or voting for Bob Barr as an Independent is a wasted exercise that would do little more than appease one’s own ideals as to the importance of every vote. I don’t see the point in it.
Staceye, that’s why I voted for Kerry, Gore, Clinton and Dukakis, all excellent candidates from my perspective. Duh.
By Last Word
September 2, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
What th’? !! Did someone veto my contribution? HOW RUDE!
By Perkle
September 2, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
So glad I’m happily married!
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this
Cee But regardless of that, the right thing for you to do is go ahead and tell the parent.
Ok, let me tie this in with our “vindictive” convo. Say I go ahead and tell this girl’s parents, and she lies about it or whatever. She’s already f*******’, so what happens if she goes and promises 5 up-to-no-good dudes a shot of azz if they fugg my man up, all b/c I told her parents and now she wants to get vindictive? Whether she’s serious or not, at least two of them clowns are gon’ take that offer.
My nephew ain’t the type to let that type of thing ride, and will want some get-back. And that’s spells trouble, which is exactly what I don’t want. And on the extreme that’s how you get guns in school and kids hurt.
Ared okay how old is your nephew? :-/
Don’t keep askin’ me simple questions like that, read. Does it matter? He’s a teenager. You follow everything else, follow that. I swear you must just want my personal attention.
By Blanca
September 2, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
mytwocents Blanca, sweetie, if you can’t verbalize a desire to hold off on the hand-holding, how do you deter them from breast grazing, hip holding or panty peeling? That made me and my friends laugh. I’m actually fairly outspoken, just haven’t cared enough to have the “why do you call me honey all the time?” with this fellow yet. We have, however, discussed my desire to hold off on sex until I believe it’s the right decision for me. But thanks, sweetie, for the post!
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
Don’t keep askin’ me simple questions like that, read. Does it matter? He’s a teenager. You follow everything else, follow that. I swear you must just want my personal attention.
BK, get a grip. I wanted an answer that I figured would be simple. I should have realized who I was responding to tho. Nevermind.
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
Dan to answer your question…if it were Obama’s daughters, again, let them handle it as a family. To say Republicans are the ones having these affairs and all this is kind of ludacris. Look at New York’s mayor as a prime example, or mayor of Detroit…democrats cheating on their wives.
I’m looking at this election not based on party lines but what they can each bring to the table. Many Obama supports say McCain if elected will be just like Bush. That is crazy, he would be very different than bush. Have to remember McCain differed than the Republican party on many agendas. He acted more as an independent and they party nailed him for it. I can respect someone who has experience and will do whats right for this country (way bush has not).
Other hand, McCain supports say Obama is too inexperienced. Obama is a respectable person and will have the best interest for the country as well.
Overall, I’m not down with Socialist Government. He will raise taxes up and that will affect small business and entrepenuers. ABC was saying about Palin with with text books, you know Obama will cut Magnet programs to give inner city DC students a chance because they are out performing public schools? That bothers me.
I’m not sold on McCain, but his experience cannot be overlooked.
By abc
September 2, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
Palin wasn’t just about banning textbooks.
She wanted to ban books from the Public Library.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
Here is my prediction:
PALIN IS GOING TO RESIGN
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this
Cee I’ll say again ( only ‘cause you’re cool though ;) ) that “vindictive” and “malicious” are not interchangeable.
Using your own definitions, you will see that a key component in vindictive (derived from vindicate - to avenge) is the element of revenge, which is plainly absent in malice. Now… there is a lot of malice employed in the carrying out of vindictive acts. LOL
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Blue before I answer your question about ‘what if’, nephew gets beat cause lil lady wanna do sumthin’ crazy? if that really would be jus cause you gave parents a lil heads up
If you decide not to share with her parents, to prevent this behavoir again then you’re allowing/condoning her behavoir and your sending indirect signal to nephew that ‘freaky dink’ is okay to indulge …in this case Cee is not gonna agree that u ‘turn the cheek’, not when us parents’ know better.
By mytwocents
September 2, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Blanca I must’ve misread your post b/c you seem like you’re in a conundrum over this “issue”. I’m sayin it should not even be an “issue”, as your stance should already have been made clear. I can tell you may be outspoken bout some things, but can you say you’re outspoken bout the RIGHT things? Things that matter like not leading good dudes on & then throwin him back into the dating pool a little worse for wear? And thanks, I am a sweetie too ;-)
BK Our dictionaries define kissing quite similarly so I’m over here left wondering just like you. Cuz if there’s a progression from the hand hold to that kinda kiss w/ whatever good stuff whispered in between…sounds like foreplay. But maybe grown ups who use terms like ‘make out’ aren’t the kind to expect or feel on that level.
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
On Topic maybe Palin’s daughter went on a date with this boy and he was a little TOO SWEET to her and got her pregnant. Sometimes people can be just too affectionate on the first date! Haha!!!
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
AtlGuy I’m looking at this election not based on party lines but what they can each bring to the table. Many Obama supports say McCain if elected will be just like Bush. That is crazy, he would be very different than bush.
Just on that statement right there ^^^, Bush, McCain… get real. Whoever you like, I would hope that you’d want to vote for somebody that you believed in your heart was more intelligent, wittier, more experienced, quicker thinker, and all-around more well-rounded than you, because that’s what I expect. Hayo, otherwise I might as well be running for President. And neither McCain nor Bush has proven to me that they possess a level of acquired/inborn intelligence higher than my own.
Obama will cut Magnet programs to give inner city DC students a chance because they are out performing public schools? That bothers me.
And why does that bother you? Because it erases the perceived and very real advantage that a suburban kid has over an inner-city kid? That same advantage that’s directly related to economic standing? That same advantage that has a high probability of progressing to the next generation. Man GTFOH!
I’m not sold on McCain, but his experience cannot be overlooked.
By Beautiful
September 2, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
since i’ve been home, i have ran into so many ppl from my past (mainly hs). it’s good to see them, but then it isn’t. teri, who works at kmart, her brother loved beautiful to death. girl, imma tell him i saw you! i wanted to say, please don’t. lol. not trying to sex a dude just because. every time i go inside a store or mall, i get in and out. don’t matter though, they still catch me. lol.
the ppl i love seeing is mothers of my friends from back in the day. i saw sonya’s mom. sonya died while we were in the 11th. she was on her way to kick terri g’s azz. (i believe He stopped her from doing that by not allowing her to reach her destination). as soon as i saw sonya’s mom, she busted out crying. sonya was my homeslice! i miss her.
y’all have a good one. i’m out!
By gail
September 2, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
WELL, I am a 53 yr.old widow….MET a man over the weekend and he is already calling me all those mushy names and telling me I AM THE ONE….SO now I do not even want to date him even though he is probably a good man…. YES, we women love affection BUT NOT TOO SOON…..IT scares me away from men that can love that soon…….it seems needy to me…..just my thoughts….
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Cee…still waits on topshelf from Blue… That’s okay mytwocents just sent me a case of that “just shipped in”…Lol.
Our dictionaries define kissing quite similarly so I’m over here left wondering just like you.
Now this ^^^ i gotta agree with ya’ll…
Bartender bring me 3 TALL glasses.
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
WOW, what did you guys do that he feels so comfortable using mushy names so soon! Also, you guys need to keep in mind that some southern men use empty “sweet nothings” all the time! It’s just part of their speech. By them calling you sweetheart doesn’t mean you’re their sweetheart!
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Chirl…just got in…saw the topic…and all I can think about is a red flag on the “attachment issues”…these terms and gestures tend to convey one thing when it is a mutual desire and exchange…but quite another when it is simply attached to the presence of the person without any substantial longevity associated with it….otherwise NOT! without futher examination into the motivations of the behaviors…what happens if you do not allow him to do those things???…how does he react then…the same affectionate way?…or does he exemplify another side to the attachment personality?
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Melo PALIN IS GOING TO RESIGN
Man I was telling my potna that that would be about the only way for McCain to get out of this and still save face, a little bit. But everybody would still know that she was forced out. I’d bet the Republicans are happy as hayo that Tim Russert isn’t around to give his commentary on their shenanigans. LOL
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
BK I’m with you, Bush is a FooL. You can’t tell me McCain doesn’t have more experience than Obama.
Tell me what specific agenda is making you hedge one way or the other. I can’t find anyone who call tell me something intelligent on why they are voting for him. People keep telling me “its Changeeeee” um ok but what cost!? People voting for him are just anti-bush and don’t understand much of the liberal policies. Listen, I don’t like Bush either, but look at the facts of each of these guys.
So tell me, what about Obama sold you specifically??
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
m’karyl hey you! How’s the jewerly business.
By TuKute
September 2, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
I really think that if you allowed this man to do and say those things without expressing your concern then you deserve to be uncomfortable. How is he going to know how far to go with you unless you tell him. Should you decide to cut it short/off he will have no idea what he did wrong. Being a woman myself I have never understood why women would think that its okay to express these concerns with their friends (in this case the general public) instead of with the guy. Its really not fair to him. You just met and he has no idea what your perameters are unless you tell him. You now have him thinking it’s okay when its really not. Come clean and don’t lead him on.
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Well, seeing as that the nomination is not officially accepted (that’s what the convention is for), there is nothing to resign from. What she can do is decline the party’s nomination.
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
So how exactly do you let someone know on the first or second date that they are getting too mushy too soon, if you otherwise think they are a person you are compatible with ?
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
TuKute, love your name! Welcome!
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
@Cemeeli
Cool..still laying out designs and such…I forgot how creative spurts can come and go…poof!!!…but I am programming my Access database for inventory, sales, taxes, photos, vendors, etc…which also has to be done too…I have some tables, queries and forms…so it is up and running too…ordering more supplies…I really love working with Peridot…getting some more…and some Amethyst.
By Dan
September 2, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
@BK
McCain has experience as a hothead angry old man, bitter about his experiences in Vietnam and angry at the government (and his father) that sent him there. All well known facts in the Senate…
His experience is one of a petulent child growing with power enough to kick dirt in others faces, and now that his hubris has been rewarded he loses whatever “honor” he’s had by hiring the same people that said he had a “black baby” (The Actual same guy!) in SC in 2000.
And yet, Sen. Obama is the one that values his ambition over the needs for the country!
You and ATL Guy are right, McCain would not be Bush he’d be worse. Bush at least has the sense to play the fool when the decision made on his behalf by others (the Dark Lord Cheney) goes wrong: “I was told by people that Saddam had the weapons…”
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
So how exactly do you let someone know… Communication. It’s not hard. You simply state that you’re uncomfortable with all these empty sweet nothings so early on in getting to know each other. Even if you think they’re a person you’re coompatible with. If you’re uncomfortable you need to let it known. Heck, this is nothing. Worst things are out there that can be considered in terms of not wanting to hurt someone’s feelings. This isn’t one of them.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
So how exactly do you let someone know on the first or second date that they are getting too mushy too soon, if you otherwise think they are a person you are compatible with ?
Spray some mase on ‘em. And while he’s throwing punches at the air like a windmill…say boo I’m here and I love you but mamma ‘tol me not to be letting no man hold my hand on the first date.
By lurker
September 2, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
TuKute
Its not the man’s place to be mushy at the beginning. He needs to find his lane. I want a man who sits back in the cut and plays a little hard to get.
By MLL
September 2, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
HUH east point either you tell them that you like them but you’re not a touchy feely person OR you’re really not into this person as you think you are.
By Foots
September 2, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
Blue I was just wondering what women thought about this, because if I got my mouth on you, then I’ve probably also got a hand full… anyway, you know what I mean. …and you trippin’ ‘cause I held your hand?! I don’t get that logic.
You right, I don’t get that logic either. If I ain’t feeling a dude, I’m not even sitting on the same couch with him. There wouldn’t be any mixed signals AT ALL.
I’m just saying that peeps need to really teach their girls that only a MAN that has proven himself worthy, should get the draws
You know, dudes hate the dreaded “timeline”, but I believe it has its place. Not so much as just arbitrarily waiting until a set amount of time has passed, then it’s on, but more like “I need to see what this dude (or woman) is about before things pop off”. Whether you can be relatively comfortable with what you know about him/her in two weeks or two years, that’s on the individual. But there is something to be said for trying to judge the character of the person you’re with before you lay it down. Wouldn’t be so many crazy baby mamas and daddies out there if that was done more.
By SlimOne
September 2, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Foots That was a good gauge of body language…I’m outta here!
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Leggs I guess I was not thinking of it in therms of being uncomfortable, I mean I would never hold back if I was uncomfortable. But in my experience its been more of a thought that its just a lil too early for this. I have not been uncomfortable but as it was said before is the person like this with everyone on the first date or am I just that special… LoL I guess to me its more of a hmmm.. type of situation rather than being uncomfortable. Its hard to tell someone you want them to stop being themself if that’s truely how they feel about you at that moment. Ideally I would prefer that people were honest about their feelings, but the problem is that so many people are so fake especially in the beginning its hard to know what’s real and what’s for show.
By Foots
September 2, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
East Point So how exactly do you let someone know on the first or second date that they are getting too mushy too soon, if you otherwise think they are a person you are compatible with ?
I’ve had men send graphic text messages or address me like “Hey Sexy!!” when they don’t even know my middle name yet. I tell them “Hey, I know that some women don’t mind being called Sexy (or being sent nasty text messages) by a man she doesn’t know, but it makes me feel uncomfortable. Can you hold off on that until we get to know each other better (read: until you know more about me than what my body is shaped like).” Some men apologize and things are cool. The ones who stop calling are the ones I didn’t want anyway.
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Dan you are way off base with this. McCain’s war experiences would heed him in a direction to avoid wars like Iraq. He wouldn’t want to put our soldiers in harms way for no reason like Bush. Why would he put Americans in a position to go through what he endured.
Bush Senior. entered the Gulf War with sufficient premise. Bush Jr was clueless and took completely wrong action. McCain understands foreign policy enough…I’m sure he wouldn’t have led us down similar path. He has a pull out plan from Iraq and I’m grateful for that. No way possible to think he is worse than Bush.
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Leggs I guess I was not thinking of it in therms of being uncomfortable, I mean I would never hold back if I was uncomfortable. But in my experience its been more of a thought that its just a lil too early for this. I have not been uncomfortable but as it was said before is the person like this with everyone on the first date or am I just that special… LoL I guess to me its more of a hmmm.. type of situation rather than being uncomfortable. Its hard to tell someone you want them to stop being themself if that’s truely how they feel about you at that moment. Ideally I would prefer that people were honest about their feelings, but the problem is that so many people are so fake especially in the beginning its hard to know what’s real and what’s for show.
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
For all you NEW Republicans Al Sharpton once said, “Just ‘cause I got a headache doesn’t mean that I get a shotgun and blow my head off.”
AtlGuy So tell me, what about Obama sold you specifically??
Referencing what I just said up top, I’m Democrat all the way, regardless; but what makes my really believe in Obama is that he’s a proponent of:
Whole-scale empowerment - fugg the Trickle-Down Theory
Personal accountability - college kids get a free education but have to give back through community-service programs
Business Morality - Government tax-break incentives are for those morally responsible for those that are helping the citizens of this country and not just the top levels of management. If you send american jobs overseas, don’t expect american tax breaks.
And given the state of affairs here in america, those 3 should be enough.
By Staceye AKA Black Mamba
September 2, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this
ABC I voted for kerry and Gore…I would have voted to Clinton if I was old enough.
By Brooklyn
September 2, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
Oh gosh. I went on a blind date with a guy set up by my cousin. In the first hour he was talking asking me where I saw “this” going. A few minutes later he was letting me know that he could see us married with kids and that he prefered his wife not to work. And he kept holding my hands and trying to seductivly rub my back. He was pushy as hell and I faked an illness and got out of there ASAP!
By AmazonRed (the real one)
September 2, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
Uh, Leggs, I didn’t write that 2:24 above. I guess someone stole my blog name. eyeroll
By Dan
September 2, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
@ATL Guy
McCain was on an aircraft carrier a week after 9/11 saying “next stop: Iraq”
He’s been promoting war with Iran since 9/11.
“Why would he put our troops in harms way?” Why did he vote to endorse this adminstrations torture memos, why did he not vote for the upgrade to the VA bill (and then take credit for it).
Don’t hit me with his (bs) life story as a reason for anything he’d do, he’s 72 years old. McCain doubtfully knows what day it is let alone positions he held 3- 8 years ago.
His pullout plan involves Blackwater’s negotiations with the Oil Companies - read brother, READ.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
mytwo Ma told me not to cooking for no man on the first date. Good, cause i be darned if dude decides to give me a kiss jus cause my roast was slamming.
By Foots
September 2, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
Leggs Worst things are out there that can be considered in terms of not wanting to hurt someone’s feelings.
That’s the truth. I’ve had to do like MLL suggested and say that I’m not touchy feely (which I’m really not). I’ve even told a first date that I’d rather not have their arm around me at a movie. But mostly, I know how to project body language that lets folks know to back off.
I see it like this…if you come up on a canine you don’t know, he’s going to let you know without mixed signals that it’s either okay to approach or you betta stay the hellz away. He doesn’t have to know the right words to say and it wouldn’t matter if he did cause dogs can’t talk anyway. But the point is, everything about his stance and his eye contact lets you know what you should do.
People are the same way. Folks just tend to not pay much attention to each other when they are concerned about their own agenda. Projecting body language, even being a little extra with it, says much more than even words can say, because so much of our communication is non-verbal anyway.
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
Foots Point taken… and on another note why am I having a conversation with Leggs and foots? where’s the rest? I like my women whole.
By For Real
September 2, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
On topic: Again women are irrational they don’t really want what they want but it is up to the dude to figure out what the really don’t want and want they really do want even when they say no to both what they want and they don’t want. Am I correct ladies?
Melo You are on point bruh.
ATL Guy Please explain this experience McCain has. Oh and please do not mention his military experience bc he wasn’t the only one fighting for this country. Why would you vote for a man that has said he only wants to be president for one term?
EPO Unzip your pants and wait for their reaction then act accordingly.
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
Foots You know, dudes hate the dreaded “timeline”, but I believe it has its place. Not so much as just arbitrarily waiting until a set amount of time has passed,…
You’re right, it does have it’s place, but very few females have the understanding or the discipline to pull it off.
By Atl Lady
September 2, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Brooklyn He told you that to see how fast you would give up the draws. Believe it or not that works on some women. I’ve got a girlfriend right now that gave it up to more than one guy over that same line. She wanted to get married and it ws obvious. When the guys pulled back after they did the deed. She soon dropped them or vice versa.
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
AmazonRed I ain’t did dat neither… either the blog had a hiccup or you got a name jacker out there.
By Foots
September 2, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
East Point and on another note why am I having a conversation with Leggs and foots?
LMAO!!! First one to point that out!!! I guess we’re building women from the bottom up. LOL!!
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
ARed, that was funny! OK.
Why do you guys steal other monikers? You know the person is coming on clearing their name. Heck, doesn’t it make more sense to steal on a day they’re NOT blogging!!
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
@Brooklyn
When I encounter someone who has to attached themselves to me (physically and emotionally) so quickly…I get the leerie and spoon out of the mix…does a possessive demon seem to be lurking behind the gestures?????…but also, I have had several male acquaintances try to hold my hand (not ppl with whom I was envolved) just because we are walking together and they want to appear as if we are a couple…and the moment I pull back, drop their hand or anything else to convey NO…watch the personality change…most men with good sense would not impose that on someone else…know plenty of them too….sign of a ????
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
Dan so you prefer Socialist Government!?
I was born under a Socialist Government and can explain to you the Pros and Cons vs what we have established in this country if you’d like.
Maybe I should say “read brother”
By For Real
September 2, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
ATL Guy McCain’s war experiences would heed him in a direction to avoid wars like Iraq. He wouldn’t want to put our soldiers in harms way for no reason like Bush. Why would he put Americans in a position to go through what he endured.
I think you need to some research first on John McCain. Go to Youtube and type in John McCain and you will hear from Mr. McCain’s own mouth what he believes. I’m an independant and it sicken me that I am limited to only two parties to choose from but what bothers me more is when people are too lazy to do their own research. Stop repeating what you heard and find out for yourself.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
What she can do is decline the party’s nomination i like that better,thanx….
By For Real
September 2, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
ATL Guy Government = Socialist. The only question is who will get the government’s support. The wealthy, rich, middle class, or the poor?
By Dan
September 2, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
Socialist: Governmental intervention in the lives of its citizenery, legislating morality and culture;
Facism: Government and business interests collaborating to the detriment of its citizenry;
Tell me, have you been in this country long enough to know the difference.
You telling me to read: funny!
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
Foots and Leggs, that’s funny!
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Ared Uh, Leggs, I didn’t write that 2:24 above. I guess someone stole my blog name. eyeroll
On the initial, I’d have to take your word, because that 2:24 was way too long, and not nearly as snappy as your normal posts. LOL
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
FootsWell starting from the bottom up is fine I can leave after we get to the waistline.. and i will be back later to see what the face is looking like… then I’ll make my final decision… LoL
For Real
On topic: Again women are irrational they don’t really want what they want but it is up to the dude to figure out what the really don’t want and want they really do want even when they say no to both what they want and they don’t want. Am I correct ladies? I could not have said it much better myself Its been a while I don’t think I was here the day they issued blog vests… so I guess I should just run now…
By MELO
September 2, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
discussed my desire to hold off on sex until I believe it’s the right decision for me if a girl told me as u say, i wldnt dump her until i get it….coz having that discussion is assurance enough that im getting it….at sme point.Its much better than cruising along and she is giving me a 2 feet treatment and church hugs,no sweetness…i wld be really confused and antsy.So how soon u think this guy will feel ur tender insides Blanca?
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
What she can do is decline the party’s nomination i like that better,thanx….
melo - What I’d like to see is for the GOP to call for a voice vote to confirm her nomination and have the motion fail in front of everyone on live television.
Will never happen, but talk about great reality TV!
By abc
September 2, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
The irony is that if the RNC overrides the VP choice it’ll be quite bad press for their candidate; if Palin declines, quite bad for the party and for her personally (1 term governor, maybe); if it rides the way it is, it’s apparently only going to get worse for them. I’m very disappointed, McCain had my vote.
I should write in Spongebob Squarepants, with his policy of crabby patties for every citizen. Spongebob for President!
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
On the initial, I’d have to take your word, because that 2:24 was way too long, and not nearly as snappy as your normal posts. LOL
BK, glad to see you pay such close attention.
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
For-Real I view myself as independent as well. I would choose based on candidates. So I’m not just repeating what people say. Its important to understand the issues. Obama’s acceptance speech last week was much of the same. Feel like I’ve heard that all before. Making points of action, but definitely not mentioning where he’s getting the funds, higher taxes! Listen, I’m still not sold on either guy. McCain has issues I’m against where Obama does also. Regardless, I’m interested to see these guys debate on the issues prior to the Election. I’m with you, tired of people being spoon fed their opinion. Need to be open-minded and objective.
Interviewed all these people at the Democratic Nomination last week…he put on a hell of a show & wonderful delivery. Messages were still vague. People in attendance when asked why they are voting for him they said “Change!” WTF!? Back up what kind of change. Or people said and I quote “because he’s a Black Candidate” how can you possibly pick someone soley on race!? Last I checked, he’s bi-racial anyways, black dad … white mom.
By mytwocents
September 2, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
Cee He might like ya rump roast already & be willin to stomache Ramen noodles or your fave- Manwich for a chance to kiss you just because…so just don’t answer the door if his parting gift gonna be a church hug when ya know ya feel that energy…
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
Blue i liked it better when you were debating whether or not to tell Shantrell’s mama ‘bout the freak nasty text to nephew. Now, since you shunned me, circle back to Pain-McCain. sitting over here in my section dranking and looking at the wannabe Democrats cringe
McCain/Palin: McCain is merely represent the RP as “high rollers” when he decided on Palin. She’s a likeable lady but.
hahahahahahhaaa…#72 rolled the dice with his eyes wide shut on this one.
By Dan
September 2, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
Also:
This was just bad politics, you pick a new commodity (on the national scene) with 63 days to roll her out, explain her history and get people comfortable with her.
It’s an admission that:
1) McCain’s not in control of his campaign (he wanted Lieberman, great pick!);
2) by his campaign that - (Pac man dying sound)- game over!
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
ooopppss, i thought East Point was a girl.
So EP you telling me ‘ol gurl was all at you on the first-second date and you did what? As a guy from the SWATS imma need better from you! :)
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
I view myself as independent as well.
ATL Guy, that’s all dandy that you view yourself that way, but is that what your voter’s registration card actually says?
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Obama still Black…one drop rule…nothing new…most biracial black/white identify as Black…most were raised a Black…several books available on the subject direct from the mouth of the actual experience…Obama is Black…and voting for a Black candidate because he is Black., oh well…race-based voting is also not new…many ppl are going to the polls to vote this election because is will be the first, last and only guaranteed moment in their lifetime that they can vote for a Black man as President of the United States…lots of ppl 65 and older for sure…and what about the ppl who will not vote for Obama simply because he is Black…white dude told me he did not think that a minority could think like other than a minority…whatever that means.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
mytwo well get it crunk then. Energy will make thanga mo betta, Mo’ betta!
…speaking of…Mo how is your son? You stated he was ill over the w/e?
By For Real
September 2, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
ATL Guy You keep mentioning raising taxes. Listen up THEY BOTH WILL RAISE TAXES!!! McCain’s taxes will be higher than Obama’s but they both will raise taxes. If you don’t believe people will vote for the white guy just because his is white and that people will vote for the black guy just because he is white then you haven’t been paying attention.
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
Cemeeli See this was only a test.. I was trying out the good guy thing and not focusing on getting the draws on the first date… I guess I should have just been myself… LoL
Every couple years I have to test it out since it looks like it works for some dudes… but according to several news reports today ( see cnn.com& msnbc.com) men are genetically prone to not being with 1 woman… LoL
This weekend I will be back to my old self guaranteed.
By For Real
September 2, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Ared You can register as an independent like I me.
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Ared glad to see you pay such close attention.
Just like you. LOL
Cee i liked it better when you were debating whether or not to tell Shantrell’s mama ‘bout the freak nasty text to nephew.
Cee, and my other issue is that me and shorty have a wide open line of communication. I don’t want to jeopardize our thing to with no guarantees save somebody else’s kid, when in reality could give less than a dayum about us. That might sound selfish, but I’ve gotta take care of mine.
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
Ok this is off subject but I gotta see if anyone has had similar experiences.
I have not lived in ATL for 10 yrs, but I was born and raised there…
I have lived in FL (7 years), Birmingham( 1.5 years), Virginia Beach( 1.5 years), and now the DC area ( 1 month)
It never fails that the women I end up dating are all from ATL or they went to school in ATL… do folks from ATL have ATL tattooed on their backs or something? How do we always find each other?
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
MKary thats fine and all. But wasn’t he raised by his white mom!?
I don’t deny he’s black, but he’s gotten the best of both cultures and I think that benefits him. He is Bi-Racial in my book.
AmazonRed I’m not American remember. So can’t vote! This will be an interesting election
By Dan
September 2, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
GA doesn’t allow independent registration, last I heard, what are the conditions for voting?
Can you vote for either or both parties?
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
Ared You can register as an independent
For Real - Duh. That wasn’t the point of my statement.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
but according to several news reports today ( see cnn.com& msnbc.com) men are genetically prone to not being with 1 woman
On this one issue, i dont rely on CNN,FOX nor CNBC.Coz they are way behind on their research and knowledge base…and they are all in the tank with the Hil. Clinton’s women’s independent movement.
GOP to call for a voice vote to confirm her nomination the dems did sme like that,tho token.Wonder if GOP will do it….hmmmmmmmm.
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
Mkaryl …and voting for a Black candidate because he is Black., oh well…race-based voting is also not new…
And there’s a lot of people that’ll be voting for McCain because he’s white.
many ppl are going to the polls to vote this election because is will be the first, last and only guaranteed moment in their lifetime that they can vote for a Black man as President of the United States…lots of ppl 65 and older for sure…
Great point. ^^^ You can liken this to the scene in Ten Commandments when the old dude dies in the arms of Moses, The Deliverer.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Let’s be real, McCain and his women, it is something about those beauty pagents queens that does something for him.
Both his wives were, and now his ‘right hand man’?…hmmm, RP claim could be used to energize the pumas and try to draw in women voters to the McClain/Palin ticket. A crush? A tactic to CHANGE Washington? No, he’ll take the votes however he can get ‘em for that power.
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
AmazonRed I’m not American remember. So can’t vote! This will be an interesting election
ATL Guy - That’s right. Thanks for the clarification.
BK - Just like me…NOT!
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
ATL Guy Most white mothers of biracial children rear the children to racially identify as BLACK because that is how they will be viewed for the most part…that is what several Jewish women who married Black man decided about their children’s identity…so your point??? This is not new…we have been with an understanding about this for a long time in our communities…is it something new to white folks..white peeps made theOne Drop Rule…ha, ha, ha….so funny those paler persuasion ppl..at their will and leisure…funny folks.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Blue i’on now how Cee didn’t see your approach with this from jump. nevermind shawty I’m trippin.
mytwo don’t pour me anutha tea chica.
East Point Cemeeli, is a chic…. calm down bruh, don’t be breaking none of my old pals down over there in the Point now. LOL we cool
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
BK
The real funny is that these kids have the same problems that you grown-up broads on this blog have. LOL
I have thought the same thing. Its kinda sad though in a way.
AR
It is one of the best feelings in the world. We had the best fans backing us in Williams Brice Stadium. We didn’t win but they were always loud and sometimes you could even feel the vibrations actually on the ground.
As Far as McCain/Palin goes….
She can’t resign and he win. Obama and Dems have been pegging McCain as another Bush administration. Her resignation would be ammo for Obama and Dems to peg this situation as analogous to Bush and the Harriett Myers SC appointment that didn’t work out. McCain isn’t even President yet
Also, legally they have to do certain thing within a certain amount of time. Her resignation would be very bad for the RNC as far as the process goes.
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
@ATL Guy
I am African American…and I did not grow up with any different values and opportunities like Obama…I am not white…so I did not benefit from a well-rounded american cultural experience???…I did not live any diffently than white folks…none of the Black ppl I grew up did…just like Michelle Obama said (to paraphrase it)…”We grew up being taught to work for what you want…your word is you bond…and although you not favor all ppl for whatever reason…you do not discriminate…Obama grew up the same way…and your point??
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
MKary you can call it this “one drop rule” that white people have or something…but black people are making it the race issue here. Most white people could careless if he’s black. Question, is he qualified should be what is addressed.
Similar to OJ simpson and his white wife being killed. Everyone who was remotely educated knew he was guilty. DNA pointed him out regardless. Black people sided with OJ saying everyone’s out for him. When he got his innocence verdict. I heard black people saying “we won we won!!!” Ummm what did you win!? Get a prize in the mail? Congrats, its a killer let go in society. This shouldn’t have been a race issue to begin with. Its ludacris to take positions on race when the evidence is so clear. My Point
By MLL
September 2, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Cee I thought EP was a girl too,Oops my bad! Well for a guy to resist the touch of a women well how shall I say this with out offense but hmmm….never mind. You know where I’m bout to go with this. man don’t want a woman’s soft touch EP help me out with this one.
By For Real
September 2, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
Dan Not true Ga is of a few states that does allow for independent registration. How do you think those republican ran McKinney (sp) out of office. BTW, I wish all the states were that way.
For Real now slapping the ish out Ared for trying to show me up in front of company.
By Jamoca
September 2, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
Hello all….
I’m just saying that peeps need to really teach their girls that only a MAN that has proven himself worthy, should get the draws*
Stuck thinkin’…what “baby girl” deems worthy, is not what mama n’ daddy (if he’s even in the picture)would approve of, as her thought process is that of a child…don’t you think?
Although they may be few and far b’twn and hard as heyal to believe… I happen to know some parents who are doing just that AND then some, such as : “bringin’ it like they talk it”…however, when these * (as some like to label)* fast, pyssy-tailed azzed girls * (says that rusty behind pot, to the day ol’ kettle)* have no idea what they’re worth, lil’ buddy doesn’t really have to put forth much effort…b/c to some, it’s better than none at all… (even to some grown behind women)
Some ask how/why?…Obviously her self esteem was long ago shot to hell (largly by sexual abuse) and for some, their only desire is to feel – by any means.
And sadly, we have many of these same lil’ girls stuck in a grown woman’s body, who have yet and still to deal w/ “said issues” of so long ago. It’s just masked in different ways; and while some reveal themselves early on, there are others who reveal over time such as: promiscuity, teen pregnancy, trickin’, strippin’, one revolving bad relationship after another, multiple personalities, drug abuse, alcoholism and even celibacy * (which FOR SOME is one step closer to homosexuality)* .
I’m sure we could go on, but instead of name-calling, realize it as a much deeper issue than being “hot in the azz”. So whether or not you’ve exp’d this or not, IT WILL/HAS (vicariously) affect(ed) us all.
And as disappointed and disgusted as we become when such acts are witnessed and/or heard of, scolding these young ladies are typically what comes to mind, but make sure you add a word of encouragement along with that “tough love”…however, at the same token, if these young ladies find no self love or worth within THEMSELVES first and foremost, all of your name-calling and scolding and EVEN encouragement, won’t hold as much weight.
So yes, by all means continue to provide both our youth (male/female) with the necessary tools to “weather the storm”, but it is up to them, to utilize them – and utilize them well.
Yep, late n’ all….and what?!….lol
By Brooklyn
September 2, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
@ATL Lady I thought he was spewing all that nonsense just to get the draws, too. Turns out that he has a reputation of being persistant, aggressive and planning out weddings too soon. He’s been single for years and still can’t figure out why. LOL.
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
Dan
If I’m not mistaken, Lieberman is pro-choice, and that really would have gone over well with the GOP. He couldn’t pick Lieberman, period. Throw in the fact the Lieberman was Gore’s running mate in 2000 (GOP hates GORE and any connection to William Jefferson Clinton), it may have been ugly!!
By MLL
September 2, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Jamoca you always coming in swinging and stuff LOL
By Dan
September 2, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
@For Real
Tell me about the process:
Can you vote either or both Democrat to Republican primaries?
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
It is one of the best feelings in the world. We didn’t win but they were always loud and sometimes you could even feel the vibrations actually on the ground
That’s so cool. I love the connecting spirit the world of sports offers. That is when the opposing fans aren’t fighting in the stands. But it’s crazy how sport can get you to stand in freazing weather with no shirt on with letters painted on your chest. Crazy!
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
@ATL guy
Yeah right…you are so naive and such…get real…white ppl have been race an issue in this country now for several hundreds of years…go jump…only when we as a ppl are able to mae it a positive racial evaluation do white ppl have a problem with it…oh well, we do not really care…besides by 2050 most of this country will be non-white…hallelujah!!!
By MELO
September 2, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
the necessary tools to “weather the storm u talking condoms and birth cntrl pills or education?? Or BOTH….
By Dan
September 2, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
@PG
I said great pick, didn’t mean for the Republicans!
By a daily lurker
September 2, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
Several things:
As much sex discussed daily on this blog, it’s no wonder this generation of youngsters are wilding out. Just because you didn’t get horizontal right before their eyes or discussing encounters within ear shot of some of these “too hot ta trot” teenagers, please know it does not mean you aren’t leading by example. There is so much fornication discussed here daily, that some days I have to log off ma own daggone self. I think it’s quite hypocritical to be the least bit shocked with the bottom lip on the ground, where you’re doing the same. I can recall a couple of “tee hee” blog discussions, reminiscing of when you were “too hot ta trot” and the stinky pinky finger. Is that not the same behavior the kids are displaying in today’s time? I am by no means condoning and have a teen myself and have to keep one eye opened AT ALL TIMES but guess what? Children are a product. From genetics to their environment. Don’t get me wrong, I can’t hardly breath in front of my child for having to ALWAYS be on good behavior. I was not the over sexed, giving it up, promiscious teenager but I can recall a couple of teenage incidents (let’s say heavy petting and kissing) my mom is not privy to and wouldn’t be to thrilled to know even today.
Next thing. We all know, as someone mentioned, and would be naive to believe otherwise, republicans are liars. I won’t say by nature but by party. People will do and say what they need to do and say in the face of challange to save face.
On topic: The sweets too soon. Innocently holding hands or other light PDAs seems about as sweet and as natural to me, even if early on, as breathing. For most dudes though, I’m jaded enough to believe 99.9 percent of the times, nothing innocent about their actions. There are ulterior motives that lies beneath. Blanca I think you’re just not feeling this dude. Us ladies know, if we’re REALLY vibing and feeling a dude, we are pleased with even the smallest gesture of affection.
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
Oh lord…here goes another white person bringing up OJ again…white ppl just can not llet that go, can they???? But lord…let us bring up lynchings and bombings (murders committed by white ppl) where the suspect was found not guilty and such…even though it was, and is, known that person was guilty…uh-huh…lol…paler persuasions are funny.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
Blue Right, I find more and more when talking to my 17 yearold cousins they deal with more crap, or the same crap i read.
East Point change your moniker! How are you posting as a SWATS member and you are now in DC and posting like you part of the Atlanta Peanut Gallery….oh wait…
MamaL lol…i’m waitning on full explaining from EP.
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
For Real now slapping the ish out Ared for trying to show me up in front of company.
For Real - rubbing cheek, why you gotta be so violent! You were the one sticking your nose into my question to the A guy. sniff
By Atl Lady
September 2, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
Atl Guy A lot of Black people didn’t necessarily side with OJ Simpson. I for one did not. He turned his back on ‘Black America’ when his fame started rising. He met a White woman that fit into the new lifestyle that he was looking for. Frankly speaking, she was underaged for Oj, but her parents approved of him because he had money period. He only ran back to AA because a lot of his White friends publicly disowned him in the media. After his verdict, he went back to the same ole same ole. A lot of Blacks still felt the sting of the Rodney King acquittals. You’re right. With the DNA evidence, it was supposed to have been a slam dunk, but the gloves, hat, and that racist cop gave them just what they needed reasonable doubt.
By Chink
September 2, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
ATLGUY You are the only one talking about race here! BLUE answered your question and you didnt pay him any mine because your main focus is talk about race …well racism!!!!!! Basically showing that you are not here for “enlightment” but to cause “discontent”.
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Pop I have thought the same thing. Its kinda sad though in a way.
Man, it’s real sad. These kids need to be worried about what college they’ll go to, and stuff like that; not sexin’ and broken hearts, etc.
Jamoca I’m sure we could go on, but instead of name-calling, realize it as a much deeper issue than being “hot in the azz”.
Yeah, and this is the same little girl that got disrespectful with my neighbor and then started to get lippy with me until she saw that I was gon’ hold my ground as a grown azz man. And let it be known that the progression was a talk with the parents and if need be, the cops.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
a Daily ….come back and join us agian…:)
Hope you like sweet tea.
By Foots
September 2, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
ATL Guy Or people said and I quote “because he’s a Black Candidate” how can you possibly pick someone soley on race!? Last I checked, he’s bi-racial anyways, black dad … white mom.
Just one question: If you are tired of the race thing being brought up, STOP BRINGING IT UP!!!!!! You manage to fit it into every political conversation. Just stop okay? It’s tiresome.
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Hold up now.. what is all this nonsense about a guy not wanting a woman’s touch??? I ain’t said nothing even remotely similar to that there folks. WHat is this the telephone game? one person twists what i said and then the next person goes a little farther… Man you gotta come in the blog hard core now 24/7 huh? So much has changed in only a year… LoL (That’s what i get for not being a daily blogger… dang) I am going to sit back in the corner now and read a book or sumtin…
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
That’s so cool. I love the connecting spirit the world of sports offers. That is when the opposing fans aren’t fighting in the stands. But it’s crazy how sport can get you to stand in freazing weather with no shirt on with letters painted on your chest. Crazy!
One of the partners, here at the firm, gave me a pair of UGA v. Tennessee ticket two year ago. I took the wife and it was the first time that she had experienced SEC football. She was amazed. It was a night game, so we tailgated all day on the Saturday. (You don’t get to the game later because of the night game, you just have more time to drink before the game.) However, you should have seen her face when we got to our seats in Sanford Stadium, and she saw over 92,000 people inside.
She was amazed.
BTW,…Foots, and other UGA alum your Dawgs have fallen in the polls to #2. Southern Cal is now #1 in the country.
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
Way off topic
Okay, so now we know that Palin’s teenage daughter is pregnant…how many bloggers believe that if the shoe were on the other race, so to speak, that instead of hearing aobut how Palin does not support abortion, etc…we would be hearing about how this is such a typical epidemic in African American families and communities…may ahve been hit today…do not know…that made me stop and listen to the reactions when I heard the news…not quite as caustic if things were different, no???
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
@ATL Lady
Good rap on the OJ issue…I need to print it out and make it standard issue response when they bring it up over and over again…it has been what 12 years now???….pullleaasseee!!!!
M’Karyl now pulling out nappy dread by the roots…lol
By mytwocents
September 2, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Now this is comical — why E.Pernt gotta be suspect for not pouncing on a woman for the course of a single date? Just proves my personal suspicion that each of us actually can control ourselves. Imagine that, a man who remains underwhelmed when in the prescence of pu-leeze tell me that the exchange of looks, laughter & sharing in the energy mentioned above is not lost on some in favor of sometimes empty gestures which often symbolize more to onlookers than the participants. Pretty please…
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Atl Lady you enjoyed your w/e and family/friends? girl, i did not have one sniff, slice or taste of bbq. Getting my Q use to be a must for me, but i let it ride this weekend/holiday.
By MLL
September 2, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
melo I think jamoca is talking bout condoms, is that right jamoca?
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
But it’s crazy how sport can get you to stand in freazing weather with no shirt on with letters painted on your chest. Crazy! I haven’t seen a black man do this yet!
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this
MKary look at what you are typing. The person here with racial issues is you honey. You want to bring up slavery and all this to me…I’m not even from this freakin country. Thats why I can’t figure out why still to this day black people continue to bring this up. I’ve had people come up to me calling me a “cracka” saying it was my fault for things that happened way before I was born in a country I’m not even from! I’m like WTF. Look how naive you are sweetheart. Keep holding on to that anger it will only bring you down.
I’ve been involved in many violent issues, yes even being white, but I’m not going to get hung up on these terrible things from my past. I will remember it, learn from it, and move forward understanding the times have changed. Knowledge comes Power and Fundamental Understanding
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
@Poppa G
I think that overall this election is going to produce some very interesting demographics compared to other elections…across so many braod spectrums of issues sans similarities or differences…so many ppl are going to be voting against something…some for something…some to stop something…I also think as with the primaries that the numbers in many groups will be highly represented at the polls.
By a daily lurker
September 2, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
Jamoca I commend you for your 3:38 post. It’s easy to put down the teenagers today but where are we and what can we do to uplift?
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
*Cemeeli * I was born in ATL( in the city) I grew up in East Point (14 years) moving to DC aint’ gonna ever change that… further more I have been on this blog for over 4 years now… I just took a little time off( read my last job blocked posts this site so it was strictly read only… LoL ) BUt its all good, you didn’t know any better :-)
But I guess none of the dudes in the blog were ever told by the elders ” never get with the woman who choses you, but get the women you chose” In recent years I have found some truth in that.. the relationships with women I have had to pursue were much more successful than the relationships with women who chose me. (namely because the chicks who rolled up on me were slightly crazy) But that’s not to say that I don’t liek a woman who shows interest, because I do.. but she should only show so much interest and let me take it from there.
By Jamoca
September 2, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this
MML what up girl?…and naw, I don’t (lol). But really, not my intent, just happen to know (or rather came to the realization long ago), some subjects are deeper than what’s put out there sometimes, heyal MOST times.
I tell my oldest one all the time, “Mama, ain’t puttin on like I’ve had the ish all figured out…I’mma tell it to you RAW, that way, you heard it from ME first.” IT’S a good thing to have some pride about yourself, but PRIDE can be a beast at times…one moment have you thinking your ish don’t stank and then at the same time have yourself in denial, when you have some issues with yourself that needs some straightening, from none other than - SELF (best person for the job)…but be prepared to gettin’ those hands a lil’ dirty, b/c when you’re at “war with SELF”…you’re literally in for the fight of YOUR life.
Hey Cee, MyTwo …sup chicks?
By Foots
September 2, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
Big Poppa Dawgs have fallen in the polls to #2
AWWWWWW, boooooooo!!!!! LOL!! I’m not hating, polls shift, that’s to be expected…
Chink We are >>>here<<<.
a daily lurker Good post, and yeah, I agree. I have to log off too when melo hasn’t had his medication sometimes. But I’ll watch my graphical representation of grown folks business. Kids do read this.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
mytwo Lol @ E’Pernt i’m just pulling his strings for laughs. You know Cee is affection free until further notice…
m’karyl snappnig at you doing the do with jewlery business. And laying down straws for the naysayers.
Au, natural huh?….cool.
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
@Cemmeli don’t feel bad chirl…i remember many moons ago that it was mandatory regulated given…(got it…lol) that we had bbq for the summer holidays and such…but now, honey, stuff so high…I be happy with a can of tuna and crackers…and add some bbq sauce to that…lol…funny how we grew older and there is a swift shift from what we want to what we *need to do..i do not even celebrate those holidays as any more than another day off after sunday…lol.
By East Point's (pronunced: EassPerntz) Own
September 2, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
mytwocents What?
I get the impression that you were supporting my actions on my recent date.. but I am from SWATS I don’t understand the language you speaketh…
By AmazonRed
September 2, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
Leggs, check out a Raider game. LOL
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
Moca Moca what it do? Did you enjoy your w/e and holiday?
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Yeah, and this is the same little girl that got disrespectful with my neighbor and then started to get lippy with me until she saw that I was gon’ hold my ground as a grown azz man. And let it be known that the progression was a talk with the parents and if need be, the cops. Hey, man, you already got your answer on whether to talk to her parents. She’s all lippy with a grown up cuz her parents didn’t teach her manners or she failed to remember them! Some children aren’t being raised with good “character” and respect of grownups. You’re asking for trouble from both her and probably her parents!
By Dan
September 2, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
I done took all I can stand!
Look, East Point is not the SWAT’s. East Point is a whole different animal, esp. y’all cops.
For geographical reference go from anywhere in the SWATs to EP and you will see the sign that reads: Now entering East Point which means, slow yo azz down bruh, we stop broken tail lights
By For Real
September 2, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
Dan Yes I can but demos and repubs don’t like it but i love. i would suggest everyone in register as an independent.
For Real now stepping on Ared’s pinky toe with a pair of Ike Turner boots.
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
ATL-Lady you are right on with that post.
Chink you must have missed all of M’Kary’s posts about white people. I could careless who’s part of what race. People are People
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
8@ALT GUY*
NO…I AM JUST RESPONDING TO YOUR POST…YOU BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF OBAMA’S RACE AND YOUR OPINION OF IT…YOU JUST SHOW YOUR IGNORANCE EVERY TIME YOU OPEN POST…WE HEAR THIS KIND OF GARBAGE FROM WHITE PPL ALL OF THE TIME…AND AS LONG AS WE LET YOU RUN ALL OVER US WITH THEN YOU PPL HAVE A DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM…WHEN WE CAN RESPOND WITH SUBSTANTIAL BACK UP, YOU PPL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT…MOST WHITE PPL ARE NOT INTELLECTUALLY ASTUTE, HISTORICALLY WELL READ OR CONSCIOUSLY CONVERSANT WITH AN OBJECTIVE VIEW TO DISCUSS RACE WITH EDUCATED OR WELL ROUNDED BLACK PPL…YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PPL…PLEASE LET IT GO…WE LIVE WITH BEING BLACK EVERYDAY AND HERE IS NOT WHERE WE WANT TO DISCUSS YOUR RACIAL VIEWS..
By MELO
September 2, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
jamoca is talking bout condoms trust her to bring colorful language..weathering a sex3ual sperm storm from a teenage, and using condoms as shelter, who wld have thoght of that MLL, other than Jamoca and maybe yourself….well maybe myself too!!
By Atl Lady
September 2, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
Cee I think fish was the only thing we didn’t have this weekend and not because one of my uncles didn’t want to either. A good fast or colon cleanse would do wonders for me this week. I saw cousins I haven’t seen in 20 years this weekend. We all hung out and got drunk together. A lot of my family has been sick including myself in the last two years. A lot of us was just glad to be in the number one more time. We’re not going to talk about the impromtu praise, worship, and testimonials going on in Selma, Al. It was a good weekend which makes for a rough start for today.
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
Daily Lurker It’s easy to put down the teenagers today but where are we and what can we do to uplift?
Don’t say sh!t to me for checking/looking out for your smart-mouthed azz kid when he’s outside acting like he’s got no home-training, and you’re in the house ‘cause you don’t give a fugg what he’s doing, as long as you’ve got some peace to get some shut eye or a dyck in ya mouf.
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
If it wasn’t for East Point the term SWATS would be virtually unknown today, thank you very much… if you wish to debate the issue you have already lost the debate.
By Jamoca
September 2, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
Melo and MML
I’m talking all of the above…from contraceptives to education, but my bottom-line was that these young folks have to be willing to deal with their “SELF ISSUES” first in order to receive what some of us are giving them…THE RIGHT TOOLS. Otherwise, they’ll never be “open” to receive those tools and/or take heed to instruction(s) on how to use them. It starts with them first and they have to know…they gotta put in some work or rather “pay their dues” as my folk like to say.
Blue
No one’s condoning her behavior and no doubt about it, you responded as a grown man should, for there’s no competition between an adult and a child, but name-calling ain’t it.
just sayin’
Thanks Daily lurker …
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
hahahahaahehehee…EassPerntz don’t change his moniky!!!
I am from SWATS I don’t understand the language you speaketh…
EP I’ve lived in the Point before…do you speaketh the language?
And NAW i don’t know anybetter, ask some of the other bloggers? :)…*nah, for real i caught it earlier but if i find a laugh in something i will pull the strings to get the chuckle.
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
ATL
I truly suggest that take a look at the history of the US, and it would give you some insight to why there are some lingering feelings about race here. It may even answer some of your questions, but at the very least it would give you some context of why these feelings still exist.
For example…The US is still a relatively young country compared to those in Europe and Asia. 232 years is nothing in the history of the world. (That is the age of the US).
In the beginning, one drop rule meant that a individual was non white. Furthermore, the US Constitution was set up and blacks were only counted as 3/4 of a person. What is 3/4 of a person. The government didn’t even consider black a full person. (Per the United States Constitution). Of course things have change, but in the grand scheme of things very little time has really passed. Especially if you compare it to the history of Britain or China and the time that they have been operating.
reconcile those 2 things…There hasn’t been a lot of time for this stuff to work their ways around.
You gotta look at the big picture. You can’t come on here and ask questions and then say stuff without knowing the full context (that for you Darrell) of things. Just hiding behind that fact that you aren’t from here is not enough if you really are interested in knowing this stuff.
As far as OJ goes, I was happy for Johnnie Cochran. On the surface that case was about race, but the only color that it really was about green (money). He was a person who was able to afford truly competent counsel. Many “average” americans can’t really afford that type of representation.
Although, everyone should get it
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
@ATL GUY*
BTW, I am a Social Historian…and I have no anger…I do not like ignorant ppl…and you are ignorant on objectivley discussing racial issues…many white ppl do the same thing…you accuse us of being angry when we are not…you accuse us of always using slavery, when we are talikng about racism today…you accuse us of being ill reared when we are probably better reared and educted thatn you…it is you white ppl who have the problem discussing racial issues…not us black ppl…it is a fact of life…we deal…we jsut aint listening to you ppl anymore…nuff of it…as they say in the VA…carry your hind parts.
By Foots
September 2, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
ATLGuy I could careless who’s part of what race.
Okay, right… Check your 2:57. No one was talking about race today until you brought it up. People responded to your post. Guess what? If you’re tired of hearing about it, everyone else is doubly tired of you bringing it up.
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
*Cemeeli * its cool playa(ette) just messing with you.. this ain’t real…
By mytwocents
September 2, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this
Mocha I forgot to put the schedule on the bulletin board, but glad you realized it’s your week to carry the Deeper Underlyin Issues banner. And ain’t those manifestations of said ills a bish!?! It’s become all too common, but I’m thankful for the Blessing having been able to self diagnose (read: admit) and write my own prescription. Impossible to purge demons you refuse to acknowledge or properly address bitterness you relish in and embrace.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
I know you wasn’t speaking to me.
East Points Own…the SWATS include my old neighborhoods Campbellton, BenHill, and Cascade area. Growing up i grew up in the Atlanta City district, but it was considered SWATS = near Turner Field and University Ave.
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
East-Purnt But I guess none of the dudes in the blog were ever told by the elders ” never get with the woman who choses you, but get the women you chose”
Never heard that one; something to think about though. …hmmmm
Cee hahahahaahehehee…EassPerntz don’t change his moniky!!!
LMAO I was gon’ mess with him ‘bout his name too.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
hey atlguy, did Mugabe take any of ur folks’ farms in Zimbabwe? They are parceling them out to blacks in affirmative action stuff…what say u? The Brits are nuts about that…..
By For Real
September 2, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
FYI but as I said before do your own research. McCain vs Obama on the issues:
ABORTION
McCain: Opposes abortion rights. Has voted for abortion restrictions permissible under Roe v. Wade, and now says he would seek to overturn that guarantee of abortion rights while being open to a running mate who supports abortion rights. Would not seek constitutional amendment to ban abortion.
Obama: Favors abortion rights.
AFGHANISTAN
McCain: Favors unspecified boost in U.S. forces.
Obama: Would add about 7,000 troops to the U.S. force of 36,000, bringing the reinforcements from Iraq. Has threatened unilateral attack on high-value terrorist targets in Pakistan as they become exposed, “if Pakistan cannot or will not act” against them.
CAMPAIGN FINANCE
McCain: The co-author of McCain-Feingold campaign finance law, he plans to run his general campaign with public money and within its spending limits. He has urged Obama to do the same. He applied for federal matching funds for primaries but later turned them down so he could spend more than the limits. Federal Election Commission belatedly approved his decision to bypass the primary funds, but rejected McCain’s claim that he needed no such approval. McCain accepts campaign contributions from lobbyists.
Obama: The presidential campaign’s fundraising champion has brought in $390 million. He plans to raise private money for his general election, despite his proposal last year to accept public financing and its spending limits if the Republican nominee does, too. Obama refuses to accept money from federal lobbyists and has instructed the Democratic National Committee to do the same for its joint victory fund, an account that would benefit the nominee. Obama does accept money from state lobbyists and from family members of federal lobbyists.
to be continued….
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
@Foots ^4:21 PM post…a-amen…a-amen..amen…amen…hallelujah now…church is dismissed…lol
By MELO
September 2, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
East Point’s Own, Cee is a playette….she got one of the hottest and tighest uuuuuu among the bloggettes…cool pple…..
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
MKary I mentioned how people responded at the convention voting on race alone. I’m saying, lets vote on the issues. Mentioned his mother is white and father is black, he’s bi-racial…so race shouldn’t factor. It is historic this election, but vote on qualifications. I’m not knocking him or anything. I could careless if he was hispanic background.
MKARY you want to make broad comments about white people and say I’m part of “you people”. That to me is ridiculous. Simmer down, isn’t about race. You made comments about “Hooray 2050 white people will not me majority” and garbage like that. Start seeing people for people. I’m not going to tolerate you using over generalizations about white people. Let it Go.
We should drop this, its not worth it or the forum if you want to bring it up. I’m just saying, needs to be intelligent dialog and not generalizations.
We Cool Mkary? I’ll buy you a Martini or something! :)
By Atl Lady
September 2, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
Cee Really??? I thought that area over there was considered part of Summer Hill since it was close. That’s borderline East Atl right there. The hell they get SWAT????
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
East-Purnt But I guess none of the dudes in the blog were ever told by the elders ” never get with the woman who choses you, but get the women you chose”
I’ve actually heard it, and it is why I always was skeptical of the Weeks/Bynam relationship. She proposed, and we see how that mess ended up.
By Dan
September 2, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
Boy Stop!
That came from the Goodie and Kast
5 of 7 stayed in the SWATs: Khujo, T-Mo, Dre, Gipp, and Cee-lo.
What?!
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
@melo
what be a Mugabe…anything like a ofay…jes askin’…jes wanna know
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
Leggs Some children aren’t being raised with good “character” and respect of grownups. You’re asking for trouble from both her and probably her parents!
That’s what I was wondering, but some kids are just showing off and bowing to that peer pressure. Some parents just don’t know that their kids are out here acting a fool. I popped in on my shorty at school last year and if it wasn’t for the fact that I knew what clothes I sent him off in, I wouldn’t’ve known that he was mine. Needless to say, I lit his azz up too, right there in the hallway!
Jamoca I’m not out calling kids names. I’m letting parents know, in no sugary words, that some of these kids are bad as hayo. So yeah in the context of grown-up conversation, bad-azz and hot-in-the-azz is appropriate.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
mkaryl PLEASE mama come have a Royal Dose of: “Tell It like it I-S is!!!”
PoppaG i don’t think you drink…anyway here is the virgin of m’karyl’s drink: “Break it down”
Good night people. Be easy…
By For Real
September 2, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
McCain vs Obama on the issues:
CUBA
McCain: Ease restrictions on Cuba once U.S. is “confident that the transition to a free and open democracy is being made.”
Obama: Ease restrictions on family-related travel and on money Cuban-Americans want to send to their families in Cuba. Open to meeting new Cuban leader Raul Castro without preconditions. Ease trade embargo if Havana “begins opening Cuba to meaningful democratic change.”
DEATH PENALTY
McCain: Has supported expansion of the federal death penalty and limits on appeals.
Obama: Supports death penalty for crimes for which the “community is justified in expressing the full measure of its outrage.” As Illinois lawmaker, wrote bill mandating videotaping of interrogations and confessions in capital cases and sought other changes in system that had produced wrongful convictions.
EDUCATION
McCain: Favors parental choice of schools, including vouchers for private schools when approved by local officials, and right of parents to choose home schooling. More money for community college education.
Obama: An $18 billion plan that would encourage, but not mandate, universal pre-kindergarten. Teacher pay raises tied to, although not based solely on, test scores. An overhaul of President Bush’s No Child Left Behind law to better measure student progress, make room for non-core subjects like music and art and be less punitive toward failing schools. A tax credit to pay up to $4,000 of college costs for students who perform 100 hours of community service a year. Obama would pay for his plan by ending corporate tax deducations for CEO pay and delaying NASA’s moon and Mars missions.
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
@ATL Guy
When do you shut up…and again, I am not angry…I am talking to ignorance (yours) and it is annoying…so out a lid on the topic and find something else more suitable to your objectivity…bottom line…race is an issue in this election just like gender…the cornerstones of Western Civilization is race, class and gender…imagine that.
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
Cee I gotta go with ATL LAdy.. I’m not thinking SWATS extends to Turner Field.. never heard that one before… but my comment was aimed at Dan who said the Point is not a part of SWATS… he was sounding like Pimp-C(R.I.P.) for a minute when he bumped his head and said ATL is not the South.
By abc
September 2, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
Poppa, you’re a bit mistaken about the 3/4 thing.
It was the 3/5’s Compromise of 1787. Slave holding states wanted their slave population to fully count toward representation in Congress, non-Slave holding states did not wish for them to have it — they wanted the slave population to count not at all as far as representation goes. No voting rights, no representation. Of course, that didn’t apply to females in general at the time, they couldn’t vote either, but they were counted in terms of representaion — free females, that is.
It was the influence of the Abolitionists even at that quite early date in our nation’s history. The compromise allows for the slave population to be counted at a rate of 3/5 in terms of representation in Congress for slave holding states. Better than some alternatives proposed at the time, to say the least.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
Atl Lady your speaking of SummerHill, i’m speaking of University and Pryor Rd. yep, it was considered SWATS. Chile, i dunno* We moved to deep SWATS Greenbriar area, in 1995. Then i move to East Point in ‘97.
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
Cemee what is she telling like it is!?
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
@ATL Guy
I read the demographic statistics in the New York Times about the racial shift in this country by 2050…what you do not read the NYT???…oh…so if it is bs then tell them not to print it…READbefore you speak.
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
Foots Guess what? If you’re tired of hearing about it, everyone else is doubly tired of you bringing it up.
Sparring is for folks that demonstrate necessary skills and purpose, otherwise you put him on the heavy bag and let him punch himself out.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this
M’Karyl mugabe is sme old senile **Prezedente of said cntry, with a brain resembling Mccain’s if not worse.Guy has been at the helm for 28 yrs……
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this
dudes like teh ATL guy are a hoot…come a dime a dozen…cheap and ignorant…tell them the truth and they get more stupid…something wrong with that boy…but we use to this, ain’t we.
By Jamoca
September 2, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
Daily Lurker
Really admired your 3:47 as well, unfortunately I’ll admit to being guilty by partaking in some of the same discussions (I sometimes despise) with some colorful thoughts of my own at times…
Cee
Hey there (again), Missy!…I just chilled the entire weekend and caught up on some much needed rest and “me-time”…so much it had me up til it was time to get my day started for work early this morning… feeling quite lovely.
FriTatas
My fellow WAKG …some subjects we find hard to revisit and if it was bait dangling above, then I’ll be first to admit…I took all that was hanging from it, if for nothing more than for the “WHOLE TEAM”…as “us” Whole *A*******ed kinda folk tend to do.
See ya’ll later…be safe out there.
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
PoppaG i don’t think you drink…
What gave you that Impression?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I don’t drink for the strictly for the purpose of getting drunk, but I spent most of this weekend with Brother Johnnie Walker Red and the Striding man.
I made magaaritas and apple martinis for the female guests at our grill session. I cooked ribeyes from Whole foods on the grill and roasted ears of silver queen corn and sweet potatoes on the grill.
By MELO
September 2, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
Needless to say, I lit his azz up too, right there in the hallway! tell me about it BK,will they allow u to do that….?? I want to do that on my daughter too….
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
MKary when I wanted to drop it you tell me to “shut up”. Classy. You didn’t listen to my point. Of course race will be an issue in this election, but its absurd to vote on that premise alone. That was the POINT.
Thanks for the lesson on Ignorance, you just displayed it with your comment when I’m past this.
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
Dan my friend this is all I will say there is no debate here, the 5 people you mentioned did not all live in the city limits of ATL, this I know for a fact because they lived and still do live in the neighborhood where I lived for 14 years. Some of them to Mays High or other ATL public schools but they lived in the city of East Point and the city of College Park. I won’t say more since I can walk to their houses (where they still live now) from my parent’s home. Right off of Headland Drive.
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
That’s what I was wondering, but some kids are just showing off and bowing to that peer pressure. BK, if you knew anything about this child’s parents you would know if she’s simply bowing to peer pressure. Any child that jumps in the face of a grownup is asking for a fat lip from the parents. Too late now, but next time march her smart a$$ over to her house and confront the attitude. If you don’t know the parents, that would be a good time to assess how they handle things going forward. Have to start somewhere!
Had to laugh at your beating his lil behind right in the hallway. Good for you!
By For Real
September 2, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
McCain vs Obama on the issues:
Energy
McCain: Favors increased offshore drilling and federal money to help build 45 nuclear power reactors by 2030. Opposes drilling in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Proposed suspending the 18-cent a gallon federal gasoline tax but idea got no traction. Global warming plan would increase energy costs.
Obama: Now would consider limited increase in offshore drilling. Opposes drilling in Arctic reserve. Proposes windfall-profits tax on largest oil companies to pay for energy rebate of up to $1,000. Opposed suspension of the gas tax. Open to tapping the Strategic Petroleum Reserve for short-term relief from high energy costs. Global warming plan would increase energy costs.
GAY MARRIAGE
McCain: Opposes constitutional amendment to ban it. Says same-sex couples should be allowed to enter into legal agreements for insurance and similar benefits, and states should decide about marriage. Supports the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which denies federal recognition of same-sex marriages and gives states the right to refuse to recognize such marriages.
Obama: Opposes constitutional amendment to ban it. Supports civil unions, says states should decide about marriage. Switched positions in 2004 and now supports repeal of Defense of Marriage Act, which denies federal recognition of same-sex marriages and gives states the right to refuse to recognize such marriages.
GLOBAL WARMING
McCain: Broke with President Bush on global warming. Led Senate effort to cap greenhouse gas emissions; favors tougher fuel efficiency standards. Favors plan that would see greenhouse gas emissions cut by 60 percent by 2050.
Obama: Ten-year, $150 billion program to produce “climate friendly” energy supplies that he’d pay for with a carbon auction requiring businesses to bid competitively for the right to pollute and aimed at cutting greenhouse gas emissions 80 percent by 2050. Joined McCain in sponsoring earlier legislation that would set mandatory caps on greenhouse gas emissions. Supports tougher fuel-efficiency standards.
GUN CONTROL
McCain: Voted against ban on assault-type weapons but in favor of requiring background checks at gun shows. Voted to shield gun-makers and dealers from civil suits. “I believe the Second Amendment ought to be preserved — which means no gun control.”
Obama: Voted to leave gun-makers and dealers open to suit. Also, as Illinois state lawmaker, supported ban on all forms of semiautomatic weapons and tighter state restrictions generally on firearms.
HEALTH CARE
McCain: $2,500 refundable tax credit for individuals, $5,000 for families, to make health insurance more affordable. No mandate for universal coverage. In gaining the tax credit, workers could not deduct the portion of their workplace health insurance paid by their employers.
Obama: Mandatory coverage for children, no mandate for adults. Aim for universal coverage by requiring employers to share costs of insuring workers and by offering coverage similar to that in plan for federal employees. Says package would cost up to $65 billion a year after unspecified savings from making system more efficient. Raise taxes on wealthier families to pay the cost.
HOUSING
McCain: Open to helping homeowners facing foreclosure if they are “legitimate borrowers” and not speculators.
Obama: Tax credit covering 10 percent of annual mortgage-interest payments for “struggling homeowners,” scoring system for consumers to compare mortgages, a fund for mortgage-fraud victims, new penalties for mortgage fraud, aid to state and local governments stung by housing crisis, in $20 billion plan geared to “responsible homeowners.”
IMMIGRATION
McCain: Sponsored 2006 bill that would have allowed illegal immigrants to stay in the U.S., work and apply to become legal residents after learning English, paying fines and back taxes and clearing a background check. Now says he would secure the border first. Supports border fence.
Obama: Voted for 2006 bill offering legal status to illegal immigrants subject to conditions, including English proficiency and payment of back taxes and fines. Voted for border fence.
IRAN
McCain: Favors tougher sanctions, opposes direct high-level talks with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Obama: Initially said he would meet Ahmadinejad without preconditions, now says he’s not sure “Ahmadinejad is the right person to meet with right now.” But says direct diplomacy with Iranian leaders would give U.S. more credibility to press for tougher international sanctions. Says he would intensify diplomatic pressure on Tehran before Israel feels the need to take unilateral military action against Iranian nuclear facilities.
IRAQ
McCain: Opposes scheduling a troop withdrawal, saying latest strategy is succeeding. Supported decision to go to war, but was early critic of the manner in which administration prosecuted it. Was key backer of the troop increase. Willing to have permanent U.S. peacekeeping forces in Iraq.
Obama: Spoke against war at start, opposed troop increase. Voted against one major military spending bill in May 2007; otherwise voted in favor of money to support the war. Says his plan would complete withdrawal of combat troops in 16 months. Initially had said a timetable for completing withdrawal would be irresponsible without knowing what facts he’d face in office.
SOCIAL SECURITY
McCain: “Nothing’s off the table” when it comes to saving Social Security.
Obama: Would raise payroll tax on wealthiest by applying it to portion of income over $250,000. Now, payroll tax is applied to income up to $102,000. Rules out raising the retirement age for benefits.
STEM CELL RESEARCH
McCain: Supports relaxing federal restrictions on financing of embryonic stem cell research.
Obama: Supports relaxing federal restrictions on financing of embryonic stem cell research.
TAXES
McCain: Pledged not to raise taxes, then equivocated, saying nothing can be ruled out in negotiating compromises to keep Social Security solvent. Twice opposed Bush’s tax cuts, at first because he said they were tilted to the wealthiest and again because of the unknown costs of Iraq war. Now says those tax cuts, expiring in 2010, should be permanent. Proposes cutting corporate tax rate to 25 percent. Promises balance budget in first term, says that is unlikely in his first year.
Obama: Raise income taxes on wealthiest and their capital gains and dividends taxes. Raise corporate taxes. $80 billion in tax breaks mainly for poor workers and elderly, including tripling Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credit for larger families. Eliminate tax-filing requirement for older workers making under $50,000. A mortgage-interest credit could be used by lower-income homeowners who do not take the mortgage-interest deduction because they do not itemize their taxes.
TRADE
McCain: Free trade advocate.
Obama: Seek to reopen North American Free Trade Agreement to strengthen enforcement of labor and environmental standards. In 2004 Senate campaign, called for “enforcing existing trade agreements,” not amending them.
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
East Point not SWATs…then it is a kissing cousin to it…lol…leave West End down Lee St dead south for 10 minutes and where do you wind up???…East Pernt…lol
By Poppa Grande
September 2, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
ABC
It is still not counting a person as a full person.
I knew the compromise. I got the fraction incorrect.
There is no such things as a partial person. You are either a person or not.
That like the statement that the average couple is having 1.5 kids. There is no such thing as a 0.5 kid.
By Cemeeli
September 2, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
East Point i’m trynna get out of here to pick up my child’s instrument that was due the school today.
See my 4:42 post. What do you know about Joyland, and the Highpoint Community area. Now when you do your homework let me know.
Like Cee-Lo from Goodie Mob…get off my perfect inperfections.
Hold it down.
By Atl Lady
September 2, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
Cee That’s news to me. I thought from McDaniel to University and Pryor was considered part of that area and from Metro pkwy going West to Ben Hill was Swats because all of that borderlined East Point.
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this
8@ATL Guy*
Whatever..have you noticed today that only your post needed to discuss race issues????…and like a typical caucasian, you flip the script to make me the one with the problem…tell my white roommate that arse…you have the problem…you are too ignorant and lacking objectivity to discuss race…period.
By Blue_Kolla
September 2, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
Melo tell me about it BK,will they allow u to do that….?? I want to do that on my daughter too….
ONLY do it if you’ve put in a lot of face time at the school and all of the teachers know you!!! And then, still, don’t get too funky wit’it.
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
Good night eveyone!
Never let adversity knock you down, except to your knees to pray!
BTW, glad to read all of you today. Po Po didn’t catch any of you (nor me)!
Stay A L E R T!!!!!
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
Melo yeah Mugabe is a tyrant. Is he affecting your country? Trying to remember which country you are from. Do you go back to visit?
MKary I can put money on it I’m far more educated than you are. I never resorted to disrepecting you. You are just showing how low you are by thowing insults instead of having intelligent dialog. I offered to bury this, but you just continue to be pathetic & childish…thats on you
By mytwocents
September 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
E. Pernt Yup, I support your inaction & don’t think you came to town for the Pride festival because of it. Luckily office is open, so… Translation: Raising our nicely arched brows at a lack of physical contact, specially those who are campaigning on celibacy platform, adds credence to blanket statements about us women not knowing what we want, who we want it from, when we want it, etc. Hate when For Real & Dan nem get more ammo.
On to things I cannot take…
I usually stay out of this fray, but ATL Guy read the beginning of your 4:01. You’ve been involved in violence even as a white guy… Now reflect and there’s no need to respond to me whether or not you see what I see.
Weathering a Sex3ual Storm as a teenager or a 40+ yr old man! I can’t help but laugh at your twisted mind. Please go all the way to the altar next Sunday.
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
God bless For Real for bringing the issues and agenda to the ppl…now that is a post worth copying and keeping…straight out to the point…thanks…I like the point by point comparison on the issues…makes it easier to sum up the game.
By Leggs
September 2, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
Loving this —>get off my perfect inperfections.
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
@Melo
Thanks…saw your response moving from and to For Reals…lol…oh so the name of a specific person…was not familiar with it…cool…a old tyrant in power…need to evaporate…okay
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this
@ATL Guy
You disrespect teh vast majority of this blog with your racially ignorant post…period…and I could careless about you and whatever…you are the ignorant person here…not me or any other ppl here who dislike your opinionated foolishness…you are just plain dumb.
By M'Karyl
September 2, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
@ATL Guy
You disrespect the vast majority of this blog with your racially ignorant post…period…and I could careless about you and whatever…you are the ignorant person here…not me or any other ppl here who dislike your opinionated foolishness…you are just plain dumb.
By East Point's Own
September 2, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
Cee I am not the mayor of SWATS but I think its generally accepted that anything east of 75-85 ain’t SWATS.
By ATL Guy
September 2, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
MKary I’m acting like a “typical caucasion” by flipping and twisting!? You are digging that hole. I haven’t been throwing insults sweetheart. I’ve said nothing offensive against black people or against you except for saying you are childish. You continue to have this vendetta against cacausians and say because I have degrees from Universities and white, then I’m not worthy to discuss this with you…excuse me!? Am I too educated for you? LoL, you make no sense.
My2Cents been involved with separatist groups that have used car bombs and machine guns as means of oppression due to religious conflict. Thats what I was speaking of prior post. Its a bit deep for me to talk about. If you want to know more I could eleaborate.
By Young, Black & Gifted Woman
September 3, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
SlimOne, in regard to your earlier question, how do you disclose to someone that you have a STD, such as herpes?.
Here’s my story- I recently met a gentleman online and for the last several weeks we’ve truly enjoyed each other’s company. Honestly, I was dreading having The Talk, but I realized he needs to know before we really get involved, if not more physically, but emotionally. I actually revealed to him over the phone this past Monday about my condition and that I was diagnosed with herpes about 13 years ago. At first, I wasn’t sure of how’d he react, but the more I talked about me taking suppressive therapy, how I watch my diet and try to keep my stress levels low, I’ve pretty much lived a very active and healthy life. He did question as to why I was just telling him @ that time, but I realized he needed to be aware of my condition and I need to make sure I had a comfort level with explaining the situation to him. I didn’t really expect for him to understand, but so far, he’s thanked me for being honest about it. My advice to anyone who deals with telling a partner about a STD, be honest about the situation and simply just talk about it and learn as much as you can about the condition. I know we see having STD as taboo, but it’s nothing to play with these days and more people have STD more than you realize. You don’t want to jeopordize someone else’ s health and possibly miss out on having a meaningful relationship if you’re not honest and upfront about the situation.