By Todd

June 29, 2005 08:23 AM | Link to this

Could not agree more. I was at the show and loved it, but it was the usual thoughtless crowd in front who didn’t care whatsoever what was going on onstage. Really embarassing.

By tom smith

June 29, 2005 08:23 AM | Link to this

Shows at Chastain used to be a great experience. Bad behavior is rampant at that venue. Garrison was “TOO KIND” in his comments!!!!!

By Teresa

June 29, 2005 08:24 AM | Link to this

I have been a fan of Garrison Keillor & Prairie Home Companion for about 30 years and would have gone to see the show…had it been somewhere other than Chastain. The last couple of times I attended events at Chastain, friends and I invested in a table and found ourselves in the midst of arrogant drunks who disrupted our experience repeatedly and made us feel we had wasted our money. Keillor is right and it is US who should be apologizing to him.

By Lou Harwell

June 29, 2005 08:26 AM | Link to this

It’s not just at Chastain. The typical Atlanta audience is loud and rude. They, in the overzealous attempt to impress the artist, actually don’t make a good impression. Good manners come from good breeding, not from being a lottery winner.

By Susan

June 29, 2005 08:30 AM | Link to this

That’s been my experience the 2 times I’ve been to Chastain. You’d think that the ones in the expensive section would know how to act, but this is Atlanta and I suppose you really can’t take the red-neck out of folks. No matter how hoity-toity they believe themselves. I personally won’t go back just for that reason.

By Matt McEver

June 29, 2005 08:31 AM | Link to this

Here’s the second performing artist in recent memory (the last being Neil Young) to make headlines because he found Chastain miserable. I attended one concert at Chastain and made it my last: most people there seemed to have cared less about the artist. Like small children with no attention span, they talked and walked about as if they were at the County Fair, making those of us who came for the performance miserable. Since then, I have abstained from seeing some artists I truly love all because they were at Chastain. There are cheaper ways to watch Yuppies made fools of themselves.

By Paul Furman

June 29, 2005 08:37 AM | Link to this

I concur with Mr. Keillor and apologize to him on behalf of the 6,000 (including myself) that loved the show. I have noticed over the years as we have become more “cultured” here in Atlanta, rudeness has run rampant. From belligerents at Chastain to ‘talk-a-holics’ at Cirque du Soleil, simple respect for the artist and those watching has faded. This “City too busy to hate” has become a “City too busy to care”.

By Kim Huffman

June 29, 2005 08:40 AM | Link to this

This is why I can’t wait for the new Cobb Energy Center for the Performing Arts to open, maybe they can learn from Chastain Park’s lessons of catered arrogance and snobbery to those who feel “entitled” to ruin the occasion for others.
Yes, there is culture and vitality “OTP”, and artists will find those venues more appealing, unless they have made up their minds not to return to “Atlanta” again.

By Phil

June 29, 2005 08:45 AM | Link to this

When friends invite us to a concert, my wife is quick to reply, “No, if it’s at Chastain, my husband won’t go.” I’ve bought expensive Chastain tickets several times over the years, only to be separated from the entertainment by a valley of drunks, rude conversation, etc. I’ll wait until the shows come to a better venue, or I’ll look for shows in other cities.

By Steve

June 29, 2005 08:49 AM | Link to this

Susan: It’s unfortunate that Chastain has become what it is. It’s been several years since I had the pleasure of going to an event there. But to repond to your comment, the “hoity-toity” that you speak of, well, the proper term is called arrogance. They feel that they 1) paid for the tickets and 2) got the “good seats” which costs the most cause they can and these reasons entitle them to be whoever they choose to be no matter how much it causes issue for others.

By Stephen Smith

June 29, 2005 08:52 AM | Link to this

There’s been a long history of boorish behavior at Chastain. I remember seeing Bobby McFerrin walking off stage because of the “Chastain Chatter.” My apologies to Garrison Keillor but next time he should consider the Fox. I saw him one time before at Chastain in the late eighties, and both the the crowd and Mr. Keillor had a good time.

By Steve

June 29, 2005 08:56 AM | Link to this

It is a Catch-22. The sponsors, companies and individuals who renew the tables annually are required to maintain the shows & the facility. As a result, a large percentage of people in the front are there because they were given tickets, or it was part of a larger package. It is purely a guess, but I would say well over half — if not over 75% — of the table section would never have purchased individual tix to that particular show and are not really fans of the particular artist. Add to that the pressure to impress clients, friends, or associates, and you have the reality at Chastain. They will simply not be fans of the show. That said, Chastain is what it is, so this is not exactly a secret.

By Shannon

June 29, 2005 08:57 AM | Link to this

The problem is not isolated to Chastain. I experienced the same thoughtless crowd at the Aimee Mann concert at Atlanta Botanical Gardens. The sound operator had to yell at the crowd to be quiet. Part of the blame falls on the venues. Using a “season ticket” concept results in people buying tickets to events they are not interested in.

By darjeeling

June 29, 2005 09:00 AM | Link to this

Garrison Keillor is a consummate performer. Atlanta audiences should appreciate real talent as it is rare in these times.Chastain has gotten so noisy over the last years that unless it just absolutely neccessary that I go (rare performances etc) then I don’t….

Thank you Garrison for your professionalism & performance

By jb

June 29, 2005 09:01 AM | Link to this

I agree with the the comments about the horrible behavoir at Chastain but I can promise you “rednecks” are not the problem. Down here in the South us hicks are taught to be Gentleman. Don’t try to blame us for the poor behavoir of transplants.

By Dave

June 29, 2005 09:01 AM | Link to this

It is a shame of the perception that has formed about Chastain. I used to like it. I don’t go now because ticket prices a way too expensive. NO artist is worth the money that goes on average for one ticket. Entertainment and sports event ticket prices are way out of control. But that is another story. Post a sign and start arresting people for disruptive conduct. That may help.

By Steve

June 29, 2005 09:04 AM | Link to this

yeah lets’s everyone start b*** about Chastain so they can make it like ever other arena in Atlanta. No coolers, no food, stop serving alcohol an hour before the show ends, etc. Chastain is one of the very few places we can go anymore that the “powers to be” don’t make one feel like they are in homeroom by imposing rule, after rule, after rule. I would assume the people on this post complaining are the same people that complain about everything. Don’t like it stay home. I was there Sunday night for Seal and had a great time,and would recommend that place to anyone.

By Lee

June 29, 2005 09:06 AM | Link to this

Couldn’t agree more. My sister has season tickets and offers them to my husband and I constantly. We usually turn them down because of past experience where we’ve been unable to concentrate on the performances due to the offensive behavior of the huge amount of drunks all around, not just down front. I have often remarked that it is surprising that we’ve not heard of fatalities that occurred from drunk drivers leaving the venue. Can’t the Chastain Park overseers make some rules here? Chastain Park is a concert venue, not a bar.

By Ron Stenger

June 29, 2005 09:07 AM | Link to this

These are the same morons who practically run over you driving their 6000 lb SUVs as they yak on their cellphones. It’s their world and forget everyone else. Chastain is merely a place to be seen (and heard) to them. I think most of the people in that section could tell you zilch about the artist on stage.

By JC

June 29, 2005 09:08 AM | Link to this

Maybe you should stop going to see lame events like Mr. Garrison and Aimee Mann.

By William

June 29, 2005 09:09 AM | Link to this

Social graces seem to be missing here in the area over the past several years. I believe it’s a northern thing. I don’t go to Chastain anymore. It’s more a place to pretend than to be entertained. The corporate seats are just another tax write off and seemingly not purchased by the people in the seats.

By Tristan

June 29, 2005 09:10 AM | Link to this

Maybe you should stop going to see lame events like Mr. Garrison and Aimee Mann. Drunks are fun, and often make humorous conversation in between encores. They are also good for cigarettes and condoms. Whit collar snobs rule!

By Drew W.

June 29, 2005 09:11 AM | Link to this

It has nothing to do with being up front in the “Hoity-Toity” tables up front. My wife & I went to the 4th of July concert with the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra at Chastain a couple years ago. Our seats were a little more than halfway up the ampetheater. While the ASO was playing some of this nation’s most patriotic & moving ensembles, there were some of the most obnoxious people yakking away with each other. I have not been back since then, but my wife got a table for July 30th to see Wynonna with some friends. It should be interesting!

By Floyd

June 29, 2005 09:12 AM | Link to this

As I said in an AJC Letter to the Editor several years ago, when they sell tickets for Chastain, they should ask “will those be ‘listening’ or ‘non-listening’?” Put those of us who want to enjoy the performer down front, and those who want to see and be seen with their brie and chardonnay, crystal and candlesticks in back.

By Ron

June 29, 2005 09:13 AM | Link to this

As a long-time Garrison Keillor fan, I would have been in the audience if I could have afforded it. But on a teacher’s salary, I could only dream about attending. Had I been there, I would have done my part to compensate for the rude behavior of those fortunate enough to get the best seats.

By Mike Stone

June 29, 2005 09:13 AM | Link to this

It’s typical Southern rednecks like Jason Bragg who spoiled the show. Stay home if you can’t show respect for the artist and the audience.

By D R Lunsford

June 29, 2005 09:13 AM | Link to this

Is there another demographic on Earth quite as annoying as miserable puke yuppies? And believe me, Atlanta’s are the country’s most unctuous and repulsive.

-drl

By Roseanna

June 29, 2005 09:18 AM | Link to this

Let me start by saying that I love Chastain Park and the beautiful atmosphere and have had some great experiences at several concerts. BUT when I saw David Bowie I was so embarrassed at all the talking during his performance and wanted to say something to the guy sitting behind me talking to his buddy about his boat motor during the show but my husband wouldn’t let me. Even Mr. Bowie reminded the crowd that he was on stage. How embarassing, this is DAVID BOWIE, a rock and roll icon, a legend! Before I attend another show at Chastain I will take all this into consideration before I spend the money. I’m also against all the corporate tables and such, those folks are there to party nine times out of ten, not to enjoy the show. If you don’t go to enjoy the show, please stay home.

By Marsha Davis

June 29, 2005 09:19 AM | Link to this

This may be Atlanta, but most of the people are not Southerners.

By Andy

June 29, 2005 09:22 AM | Link to this

At Music Midtown people were talking instead of watching the shows. Then I went to Billy Corgan and two drunk jerks were practically shouting at each other, so they could carry on a conversation over the music. Why spend all that money to have a conversation, with a concert as background music? Do yourself and everyone around you a favor and stay home.

By GH

June 29, 2005 09:23 AM | Link to this

The problem with Chastain is the mix of the corp crowd who want to go for the fun, the party, and to socialize. Then you mix in the fans of the artist who want to hang on every note and enjoy the show and apperantly get p** that not everyone cares as much as they do…It seems that the rowdy people were fans since they were familiar with some his jokes or stories. It seems that GK and Chastain could have handled this better.

By Brian

June 29, 2005 09:24 AM | Link to this

Just a Point of Clarification.. The “Drunks” that Mr. Garrison refers to were from the North.. We call them “yankees”. The “rednecks” are in Gwinnett, not Chastain.

By Sam

June 29, 2005 09:25 AM | Link to this

I listen to Garrison Keillor On NPR every chance I get. He’s a wonderful story-teller. But, Chastain is the wrong venue for any event based on hearing what the performer is saying. My wife and I once attended a Jimmy Buffett concert there. We expected everyone to be loud and drunk and we were not disappointed. Maybe bouncers are needed to remove the worst offenders.It would also help to have a few cops there issuing citations for drunk & disorderly behavior.They could write a whole month’s quota in DUI tickets in one evening. Let these alcoholic morons keep their asinine behavior away from the rest of us.

By Mike Rose

June 29, 2005 09:25 AM | Link to this

As usual the extremists are going to start calling each other “rednecks” and “yuppie pukes”. You are both wrong.

Ignorant, boorish behavior at Atlanta events is par for the course and both “rednecks” and “yuppies” are guilty of it. Every comedian I have seen in Atlanta has had to contend with the same ignorant behavior that Mr Kellior describes.

The people talking out loud and yelling to the artist at concerts are the same fools who talk incessantly in the movie theater. These rude idiots are represented equally along the whole social strata and demonstrates hickish behavior from all kinds of Atlantans.

Atlanta needs to learn how to go out to a public event without acting so rudely. It is really embarrassing.

By dallas

June 29, 2005 09:26 AM | Link to this

The writer’s of the “buzz” column in the AJC (print addition) have the same disrespectful attitute toward Mr. Keillor as the losers who heckled him at the Chastain show. Mr. Keillor forgot more about English language use than the sophmoric writers ( chiding the entertainer for his use of the word “snarkle”)of the AJC “buzz” ever learned. Why don’t the AJC “buzz” writers lose the high school attitude and show ,as most of the people posting comments on this site, outrage at the kind of reception given to what some may say is a legend.

By Ron

June 29, 2005 09:28 AM | Link to this

I am really concerned about my first trip to Chastain. I have really never had an opportunity to enjoy a “free” ticket, so I am paying $160 to sit down close next week at the ASO and Vanessa Williams. I am from N’Ga and a long time resident of Metro Atlanta. At Gwinnett Civic Center I attended the Leather and Lace concert. I was in the 78$ seats, and some fools behind us talked about everything they had every known about anything related to music. It would have been better if they had just sung along, but they really couldn’t sing. I do not mind putting a little peer pressure on rude people. It worlked, and if that doesn’t work, then get security to handle it. Take some ownership folks. Cram a wine bottle up someones nose - it suprisingly stops up their mouth !!

Does anyone want some tickets???

By JR

June 29, 2005 09:28 AM | Link to this

Southerner or Yankee. Redneck or city trash. It makes no difference. The fact of the matter is that rude, obnoxious behavior is bred from birth—no matter where you’re from. I apologize to Mr. Keilor. Where have you gone Atlanta?

By Greg

June 29, 2005 09:29 AM | Link to this

Hey, JC. I noticed you are too “lame” and too much a coward to post your name. Using your logic, only those events that you think are lame should be allowed to be disrupted by rowdy attendees. I dare you to list some “un-lame” events that you’ve attended.

By Dicky Terdspanker

June 29, 2005 09:31 AM | Link to this

Yeah c’mon. Git r Done! Hey! When’s that thar Cable guy coming out, this Henry Fonda feller is killin’ me. Pass the Grey Poupon please.

By Kerry Taylor

June 29, 2005 09:33 AM | Link to this

Are there no security guards that are present that could help keep a lid on crowd control?

I guess if we all threaten to boycott Chastain for the next year then someone in control may provide decent crowd security.

Can anyone identify just which tables were the ones involved and which “corporation” bought the tickets? Maybe we could boycott them as well.

By Cheryl

June 29, 2005 09:34 AM | Link to this

I have been to several events at Chastain and I have found that the “yuppies” up front are the rudest and most inconsiderate people there. They seem to think that their money buys them the right to ruin the show for the rest of us, who actually came to see it. And remember, most of the hicks and yuppies now days are “transplated Yankees!!!!!”

By Rick

June 29, 2005 09:36 AM | Link to this

Loud & obnoxious patrons are not unique to Chastain Park…unfortunately. People are just plain RUDE anymore. Just recently a group of friends and I went to a very nice north Fulton restaurant and had our evening & dinner ruined by a table of loud drunks sitting next to us. We made 3 requests to the manager and he took no action…saying “We do not want to ruin our customers having fun”! What about the other paying customers..whether a restaurant or a concert. If you cannot respect other people’s rights…STAY HOME!

By Holly Smith

June 29, 2005 09:36 AM | Link to this

It seems to me that the responsibility for this problem sits squarely on the shoulders of Chastain Park Venue management. They make enough money off of these concerts to ensure that there is adequate staff to monitor the crowd and remove the disruptive people. Where you have alcohol available, you will have obnoxious drunks. Instead of perpetuating a reputation for disorderly conduct and an atmosphere that is not conducive to listening to music, Chastain Park needs to hire “bouncers” to remove the offending parties. There’s absolutely no excuse for allowing that kind of behavior. If Chastain Park isn’t careful, they’ll lose their season ticket holders and will end up out of business. I hope that someone at Chastain Park is reading these comments. It’s high time for them to sit up and pay attention. I’ve lived in Atlanta all my life and remember a time when Chastain was a GREAT place to hear music. I’d love to see that happen again.

By nicole

June 29, 2005 09:40 AM | Link to this

Its the transplants!!!!! Stay the H*LL out of Georgia. Stop trashing our state!

By Bill S

June 29, 2005 09:40 AM | Link to this

Because of the well documented “rudeness” I chose to stop attending events at Chastain a long time ago; my choice. Questions: If that behavior is the norm and expectation, wouldn’t it be reasonable for Mr. Keillor to have known what it would be like in advance? He knowingly booked the place, and took the cash. What’s the complaint on his part? The only legitimate complaints are from those who were unaware of the situation ahead of time. All others, need to find somewhere else to go as long as that is the expectation.

By Charlotte

June 29, 2005 09:41 AM | Link to this

we are in the mountains of North Georgia and listened to the show on the radio… it wasn’t noticable in the radio version other than one comment he made about someone sleeping in the front. Two years ago we were guests of someone at a table for 6.. Bonnie Raitt was singing, the front tables seem to be able to effect the performer more than the rest audience… so how about just eliminate the front area.. ?? our experience was wonderful, enjoyable, and a thrill.. perhaps a limit of the number of bottles of wine one can bring in would help. We seemed to have brought too much food as well. Difficult to handle. I would go back even though the recent review of the audience is poor. It’s an experience not to be missed… make it work, make it work better…

By DC

June 29, 2005 09:42 AM | Link to this

As a native Atlantan I grew up with Chastain Park, as a concert goer I have been to Chastain many times. You are so right about the “loud crowd” but wrong about “southern rednecks”. I can assure you there are very few rednecks or southerns there only transplants, CEO’s and employees and those just going out to party (loudly). Chastain is a perfect place for an intimate concert. Please only come if you want music under the stars not “pass the mustard and who cut your haircut?

By Jimmy Baron

June 29, 2005 09:43 AM | Link to this

I wish people would realize that Chastain is NOT for acts like the Prairie Home Companion!

By Kristen

June 29, 2005 09:46 AM | Link to this

I was out of town and was sad to have missed the show, but I read through all of the comments above. I’d rather not point fingers at certain groups based on stereotypes. Rudeness is the one constant in any demographic, venue, or class. Hasn’t anyone been to the movies, opera, or ballet lately? Or even the grocery store?

When I was a kid, they would kick us out of these venues for being disruptive. Is anyone from Chastain reading this? Are venues afraid to take this kind of action for legal reasons? Are they afraid of losing corporate revenue? Is there a policy against severely disruptive audiences? Is there anything we can do as patrons to help you change this behavior?

By dme

June 29, 2005 09:47 AM | Link to this

Atlanta used to be a nice Southern city. Not anymore. Most of the natives have left for places where manners still matter. Maybe it time for another visit from Sherman……

By Mike Rose

June 29, 2005 09:50 AM | Link to this

Blaming it on transplants is absurd. Whether it is a “redneck” or a “yuppie”, it is almost always a Southerner yelling at the performer.

As a transplant myself (10 years), I have come to love Southerners, and generally prefer them to the folks up North. However, there are still many Southerners who act like they have never been out of the house before.

Of course, most Southerners are generally more polite than Northerners. Behavior at comedy acts, plays and movies are a big exeception to that rule.

By Fatback Chambers

June 29, 2005 09:51 AM | Link to this

I have season tickets for a table and we didn’t notice anything. What gives?

FB

ps. sorry about the bottles

By Jesus Christ

June 29, 2005 09:55 AM | Link to this

Jc stands for Juan Chavez, and I’ll choke you out with a strap on chump

By Genie

June 29, 2005 09:55 AM | Link to this

I’ve never been able to sit through any show at Chastain without suffering the inconsiderate jerks at the front tables. Performers should stop agreeing to appear there until some changes are made in security,

By Julie Hall

June 29, 2005 09:57 AM | Link to this

I cancelled season tickets years ago because of the ‘chat’ level.

By shari

June 29, 2005 09:57 AM | Link to this

Maybe the alcohol should be banned. Let those that want to chug is down sit on their porch rocker and listen to the radio. Drunks will be where ever the drinks are served.

By DJ

June 29, 2005 09:57 AM | Link to this

Dear Mr Keillor: Consider yourslf fortunate that you had 6000 in attendance. Without the corporate subsidized performances like yours that are a part of the Chastain “packages”, i.e. unpopular shows put together with popular ones to sell more tickets, you would probably be performing to less than half that. The problem is the performers and promoters that require the abhorent ticket prices that keep the “true” fans out of the most desired seats. So don’t blame the attnedees for having a good time, blame Garrison for performing at a venue that costs $120 a ticket for prime seats.

By Jill

June 29, 2005 09:58 AM | Link to this

If the booze isn’t sold and allowed at the venue, then most of the trouble would be elsewhere. How embarrassing for us Georgians that this happened.

By David

June 29, 2005 10:00 AM | Link to this

I’ve noticed over the years how concert-goers in several Atlanta venues seem to have no real interest in who’s on stage nor any courtesy for the people around them. Same in movie theaters. The unfortunate result will be that eventually no performer of any substance will ever want to come to Atlanta. But you can’t blame it on Southern Rednecks or Obnoxious Yankees - neither region has a monopoly on abject rudeness or common courtesy.

By Wanda

June 29, 2005 10:03 AM | Link to this

I stopped going to Chastain years ago, for many reasons. Those people down front in the expensive seats are not Southerners. We were taught manners and how to behave in public. I see the same rude behavior here in the north where I live now. Connect the dots.

By Bryan

June 29, 2005 10:05 AM | Link to this

I also experienced rude behavior at Chastain. It was at the Brian Wilson concert and the rudeness does not just come from down front. We were in front of some higher level tables and had to move due to nonstop talking during the performance. I enjoyed the show much better from the upper rows. At least you could here the music.

By Jack

June 29, 2005 10:09 AM | Link to this

Anyone who truly appreciates music/events knows that Chastain blows, primarily b/c the annual ticket holders have no clue who half the performers are. Their main focus is on the setup: candelabra (check), white zinfandel (check), checkered table cloth (check), sex and the city outfit from Lenox (check), chatterbox (check), menthol capri 100’s (check). True fans are SOL, b/c half the tickets are already sold to corporations; Variety Playhouse rules! Why Jack Johnson, why??

By Tom

June 29, 2005 10:10 AM | Link to this

Take away the alcohol at this venue and it will be better off. The rowdy folks only come to drink.

By Jim

June 29, 2005 10:15 AM | Link to this

I could not agree more with Mr. Keillor’s assesment of the Chastain venue and the folks that sit close to the stage. I refuse to attend any event at Chastain for the reasons stated in his radio comments. Hopefully, he’ll come again to Atlanta at someplace like the Fox Theater.

By Andy

June 29, 2005 10:17 AM | Link to this

Prairie Home family, On behalf of Atlanta and Macon, I apologise for the rude behaviour encountered at your show. Real Southerners don’t behave this way. And besides, rednecks don’t go the Chastain Park. The rude folks are the ones that ruined Atlanta, YANKEES, they need to go back to Northeast. They ruined LA, who in turn, ruined Seattle, Denver, Phoenix, and now trying to ruin Boise, go home Yanks!!!!

Andy Anderson (Originally from Macon, GA) Portland, Or / Vancouver, BC

By O.A.

June 29, 2005 10:20 AM | Link to this

We are subscribers to the Classic Chastain series. Our seats are in the first row next to the tables up front. We were at the Garrison Keillor performance and did not see anyone disrupting the show. Yes, people eat, drink, and socialize. That is the uniqueness of the Chastain experience. Harrison Keillor’s performance is not appropriate for a venue like Chastain. Both, Mr. Keillor and Chastain’s Management know that. If anyone displayed rude, boorish behavior, it was Mr. Keillor. Please stick to NPR!

By John

June 29, 2005 10:22 AM | Link to this

Jimmy Baron, Chastain Park is apparently no longer a venue for any act, it’s become a venue for blabber mouths who, for some strange reason, paid money to have a conversation featuring live background music. Jimmy, how would you feel if your enjoyment of your beloved Bruce Springsteen were drowned out by two yahoos talking about their eTrade accounts? Agreed, Chastain is a horrible venue for PCH to appear at, but then again, it’s becoming a horrible venue for ANY act…

By Charlie Knuckles

June 29, 2005 10:23 AM | Link to this

Greg, why all the hostility? Maybe next time the Oak Ridge Boys play Chastain we can get together with a bottle, no, better yet a box of white zin so the clanking of glasses doesn’t bother the performers. Calling someone a coward on an anonymous message board is cool. See ya when NSYNC comes to town, jagon.

By Susan

June 29, 2005 10:23 AM | Link to this

Every time I’ve gone to Chaistain, I have gotten tickets for the grass area. It’s more comfortable, away from that hoity-toity folks in the front. Far enough away that you can’t hear their rude chatter. Try that next time there’s someone you really would like to see.

By Josh Massey

June 29, 2005 10:26 AM | Link to this

Chastain is still the best venue in town for loud music shows (when the rude ones are drowned out). Hootie was fantastic last summer, and I still think the “O Brother Where Art Thou?” show a couple of years ago is the best I’ve ever seen.

By Mark Arum

June 29, 2005 10:28 AM | Link to this

If you buy tickets too close to the front at Chastain, you’re making a mistake of epic proportions. Sit on the grass, it’s not a bad seat.

By Vernon

June 29, 2005 10:29 AM | Link to this

I couldn’t agree more. My wife quit going to Chastain years ago - not because of the food and wine but because of the behavior. Mr. Keillor and any other entertainer/comic becomes a target for the rowdies and musical performances become muzak for a large outdoor party. It is very painful for those of us who try to enjoy the performances and appreciate the outstanding talents represented on stage.

By Jamie Smith

June 29, 2005 10:30 AM | Link to this

I happen to work at Chastain and I for one am appalled at the tone of these posts. Instead of appreciating a great venue, you criticize these rare instances of rude behavior that really are few and far between. Atlantans should take pride in Chastain and support it, not tear it down verbally. All of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

By Harriett

June 29, 2005 10:32 AM | Link to this

I just want to say… Alan Rickman is HOTTTTTT.

By edge770

June 29, 2005 10:37 AM | Link to this

What brain dead moron booked Prairie Home Companion at Chastain??!!?? That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard of.. They should have booked at the Fox or The Rialto or some other intimate locale. Let’s just close down Chastain and when a private promoter comes up with a good outside venue (Jasper Georgia anyone?) with strict codes of “audience conduct” then we consider a outside venue.

By Georgia Navigator

June 29, 2005 10:38 AM | Link to this

John makes somes excellent points. I wonder if he would like a job working for the DOT. He’s Born to Run!

By David

June 29, 2005 10:39 AM | Link to this

Even though you couldn’t drag me to see something like Keillor’s show, I do feel for the people who may not have known about Chastain’s reputation for being noisy. I’ve lived in Atlanta for 16 years and am an avid concert-goer. But I’ve only been to Chastain one time. Add ticket prices to talking and you can count me out.

The only time I went to see a show there was for the Gipsy Kings. I knew it was going to be a party atmosphere where the band would most likely enjoy people celebrating. And that is exactly what it was. I’d NEVER go see a show there where the focus is an old man talking about the good ‘ol days (whatever that is).

By Mark

June 29, 2005 10:42 AM | Link to this

None of this is news. I swore off Chastain 2 years ago due to the same rudeness and arrogance that ruins the experience for true fans of the artists.Chastain has become a gathering spot for people who prove the theory that money can’t buy class. I am a Southerner and a bit of a redneck, but was raised to be respectful enough to know that when the show starts, the chatter stops.

By Billie

June 29, 2005 10:46 AM | Link to this

Jamie, unfortunately the instances of rude behavior are anything but rare. They are par for the course. If you care about the venue, take a listen and work to change this problem. The last straw for me was the drunks heehawing in the midst of an a cappella rendition of Amazing Grace by Aaron Neville. I voted with my feet and apparently others are, too.

By Awake

June 29, 2005 10:47 AM | Link to this

Obviously these are out of work fans posting things like, don’t sell alcohol, triple security, don’t sell corporate seats. That equalls don’t see any shows at all, because Mr. Keillor plays for $120/ticket not $5. The problem is half the people at the show don’t know who they are seeing, but had to buy 10 shows of tickets to see the one show they wanted. As usual the solution lies somewhere in the middle, but the squeeky wheel gets the press.

By Karen

June 29, 2005 10:49 AM | Link to this

I agree with the given tickets comment. Some friends were given tickets to an Irish band I’d never heard of. I went along and as soon as the band went on, not only could I not hear anything through the rude, drunken crowd, but I suddenly realized the friends I was with were just as rude and drunk. I will never go anywhere with them again.

By Lisa

June 29, 2005 10:50 AM | Link to this

Wouldn’t it be great, if the managers at Chastain could take all the ignorant morons up front, and move them to the lawn? Then take all the dedicated lawn-goers and other people in the back of the theater, who still spend over $30 to see a performer because that is all they can afford, and move them to the great seats? I recently saw Santana and Los Lonely Boys at Chastain and the people sitting on the lawn were having a wonderful time, and not spoiling the concert for anyone, even though we could barely see the performers on the stage.

I find it extremely troubling that our city has become so full of people who have no regard for anyone but themselves. If I were a performer, I would refuse to play the venues here. It’s no wonder we have no culture in Atlanta. Culture has to start with people who give a damn about something other than themselves.

By David

June 29, 2005 10:50 AM | Link to this

Well I am from Atlanta…and the rude types at Chastain and other music venues are from all over. No area of the country has a monopoly on jerks or good manners. It is a little sad that folks are too caught up in the drinking binges and trying to out-do Martha Stewart

I will say this I’ve been to Chastain plenty of times since I went for the first time as an 18 year old in 1984, and I love it. It’s probably because whenever my concert is being ruined by some horrible chatterboxes, a good solid “SHUT THE F#$* UP!” from me or my fellow concertgoers usually quiets things down. It works really well when coming from a rather petite woman. These best I’ve ever seen is a delivery from a 70 year old woman in pearls. The boistrous folks are usually stunned into silence. Don’t be afraid to “check” folks for their bad behavior. I’ve had a couple of them thrown out for being publicly drunk. If more folks in the audience and the promoters took ownership of the atmosphere, the problem would be nipped in the bud.

By amy colburn

June 29, 2005 10:51 AM | Link to this

I too think twice before going to Chastain Park for a concert. I have attended four concerts there. At two, The Buena Vista Social Club and the New England Conservatory, the audience was decent. At the other two, Jethro Tull and Rickie Lee Jones, the audience was terrible. Jones yelled at the audience to shut up in the middle of one of her songs and Ian Anderson said he would never play the venue again. I pay to hear a concert at Chastain, not to hear clinking glasses, chatter and drunken outbursts. If I just want a meal with background music I can stay at home. There I don’t have to put up with the obnoxious behaviour.

By Jules Winnfield

June 29, 2005 10:53 AM | Link to this

I grew up in and lived in Georgia most of my life and I am a true man of the south but I can safely say from experience, that the crowds at most venues in Georgia are rambunctious, rowdy, chatty, and inconsiderate of those around them. I have been to shows in many other places and can say that the behavior of Atlanta fans is the worst of any whether its baseball, concerts, or movies. FYI, I haven’t seen this type of behavior in New York City…yes that’s right New York City. It is always easier to blame others for our own shortcomings. Be adults and act like adults whether the tickets are the free corporate variety or ones you purchased yourself. One last thought, nothing is worse than a self rightous southern gentleman or southern bell…

By G. Ray

June 29, 2005 10:55 AM | Link to this

Sorry to inform you, Susan, but it’s not the “redneck” influence that causes such scenes. Atlanta, as we all know, is a northern city placed in the middle of the south. Find me a southern accent here…go ahead…Ahhhh, there aren’t any southern accents, because most are transplants and even those born here have northern parents or grandparents. I’m not blaming northern people at all. I just want Susan to think before she speaks so reckless about my south and the so-called “Rednecks”.

By brett

June 29, 2005 10:55 AM | Link to this

I find it amazing that people still try to differeniate between wealth and class. There are several people who pay lots of money to keep their season tickets. That being said, who would really want to see Garrison Keillor? Most of the shows at this venue are terrible, and the acts are way past their prime. They package some very good shows with these bad ones, making us have to pay for them.I find it more amazing that they cannot seem to book better bands, or at least different acts from the previous year. This comes down to how much money the promoter makes by booking these has-beens. Now on the topic of talking, being rude or just really enjoying themselves,Chastain affords people and corporations a place to entertain. that’s right entertainment, not just seeing some lousy performer, so its more of an experience. there will always be those, who are jealous of others, who are rude,and those who are there to have a good time. relax and just see it for what it is.

By Pat

June 29, 2005 11:01 AM | Link to this

jb — Thanks. You are right on. Living inside the perimeter, money and breeding don’t by class. Good parenting does.

By Corey

June 29, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this

First, let me say—as someone who has worked in marketing for event facilities nationwide for years—that I’m VERY surprised at the press this is getting and the fact that Atlanta is being singled out. Having worked in booking Garrison before, I can tell you his people are NO TREAT to deal with from a booking standpoint either. To hear him whine about an appearance is no shock.

But looking for this kind of behavior can’t be narrowed down to Chastain, which is pretty tame compared to most other outdoor facilities of its nature.

Those calling out the “redneck southerners” need to take in an outdoor event in upstate New York or Chicago or even Minnesota (as I have) if you want to see REAL boorish fans.

From someone who has seen this on both sides of the fence—if I were an Atlantan, I’d say “Thanks, Mr Keillor, now don’t come back,” instead of listen ing to him whine again. He probably didn’t have enough Perrier stocked in his mini-bar.

It’s an outdoor facility not suited for a performance such as his. He knew the facility before accepting the booking. The rights of a fan are there to have a good time—not listen to someone chastize them for not being familiar with his material beforehand. It’s not school—it’s entertainment, and should be treated as such.

By Robyn

June 29, 2005 11:04 AM | Link to this

Amen, brother.

This isn’t about rich or poor, southern or northern, drunk or sober. Just plain bad manners. Welcome to Atlanta…

By Bill King

June 29, 2005 11:06 AM | Link to this

I applaud Mr. Keillor for his actions and comments and feel that he has right to pleasant and respectful environment to perform. The Chastain “experience� has become just as un-enjoyable and distracting to the audience. People come in and setup their pretentious gaudy affair in the middle of performances with no care of the people around them. Once they setup, they constantly talk and clang plates and glasses as if it were a private party. Have your dinner party at home or one of the nice restaurants in the area and then go to Chastain for a “entrainment experience� everyone can enjoy.

By Mel

June 29, 2005 11:06 AM | Link to this

Rude, drunk, redneck, talkative pretty much describes the typical concert goer in Atlanta, a corrupt, poorly run city with no culture and no manners.

By Antonio

June 29, 2005 11:08 AM | Link to this

This behavior is typical of the “It’s all about ME crowd”, driving their HUGE SUV’s with BUSH-CHENEY bumper-stickers. A little consideration please!

By Charles

June 29, 2005 11:09 AM | Link to this

Garrison Keillor is an overrated prima donna who presumes to wisdom his limited intellect and knowledge cannot support. Having said that, the crowds are rowdy at Chastain as they have been for years. It is the promoters’ responsiblity to book acts more commensurate with that rowdiness. Performers’s agents should let them know ahead of time what to expect in an out door, alcohol fed environment.

By Scott

June 29, 2005 11:09 AM | Link to this

I went to see David Lee Roth a couple years ago and he blew the corporate “muckity mucks” to the back of the venue. Simple solution, bring in bands that rock so you can’t hear the chatterboxes! Rock n Roll!

By BBW

June 29, 2005 11:09 AM | Link to this

Its still the best thing happening in Atlanta. The 90 minutes before the show starts creates a since of community that is in short supply lately. Robert Plant Baby!! And how bout all of the HOT CHICKS at these concerts WOW!! Holla

By Mike

June 29, 2005 11:17 AM | Link to this

Whoever booked Chastain for PHC is the one who is at fault. Chastain is not a venue for intimate theatre, it is a party spot and yes, drinking is the order of the day. You can’t put Garrison Keillor in the same place that weeks before hosted Casey and the Sunshine Band. There are plenty of great locations in the city that could have hosted this event.

Don’t blame Atlanta, blame Mr. Keillor’s staff.

By gttim

June 29, 2005 11:18 AM | Link to this

I saw Bonnie Raitt there a number of years ago. Everytime she sang the line “Angle from Montgomery” from the song of the same name, this southern voice bellowed from behind us “Alaaaaabaaamaaaaa!” It was a bit amusing, but for the most part the behavior of the drunks was not.

It is not a problem of rednecks or yankees, it is a problem of alcohol and drunks. I saw many conerts there that year and had to tolerate spilled drinks, smoking, feet on the seats, food tossed around and just all kinds of bad behavior. It is a lovely facility but a lousy place to see a show.

By Drew Meadows

June 29, 2005 11:18 AM | Link to this

Three words - Mable House Amphitheatre

By Mary

June 29, 2005 11:22 AM | Link to this

Excuse me, but this isn’t about if you drive an SUV or what kind of bumper sticker you have. It’s about whether you were raised with or without manners. But I guess you answered that question, huh?

By Peggy

June 29, 2005 11:22 AM | Link to this

Just to point out that Atlanta is now a majority of northern transplants, this behavior cannot be blamed on southerners alone!

By Jenny

June 29, 2005 11:33 AM | Link to this

This is for all the people quick to blame the “transplants” and “Yankees” for the rude behavior. I gotta say, I am from NJ - the armpit of NYC, and NYC is the rude capital of the world, and yet I have NEVER experienced such rudeness at a performance event there. People are respectful of their fellow audience members and the performers. So don’t blame us for this one!

By Ron

June 29, 2005 11:36 AM | Link to this

I recently attended the Aretha Franklin concert at Chastain. I had so-called “good” seats, on the right down by the stage. The sound sucked and people were too busy clanking bottles and high-fiving friends to pay much attention to the music. Lots of Polo shirts, pastels, Lilly Pulizer, and iced chardonnay. We moved back to a couple of open seats in the rear center. The sound was much better, and the people were quieter. I was reminded of John Lennon’s famous concert quote “Those in the cheap seats clap your hands, those in the expensive seats rattle your jewelry.”

By Joey Potter

June 29, 2005 11:38 AM | Link to this

I won’t go to Chastain any more because of the loud, rude behavior of the crowd in the expensive seats. Goes to show you that money, expensive bottle of wine and candlelabra on the table doesn’t mean class. I hope Mr. Keillor will come back…and I, for one, don’t think he needs to apologize to us…WE need to apologize to him.

By cjb

June 29, 2005 11:40 AM | Link to this

All you have to do is look at migration trends and census statistics to iron clad verify that the majority of that public radio audience that went to this show (I have never heard of this guy) were not “southern rednecks”. If all of these glorious places that the transplants come from are so great and have such wonderful class, why are these people still in Atlanta. That has always been a mystery. Spare me the wise crack comments though. This by no means is the place I remember 20-30 years ago with the Electric Ballroom, Alex Cooley productions and the Great Southeast Music Hall. Those were the days of concerts. Most of you don’t know what I am talking about…Sad…

By Debbie

June 29, 2005 11:43 AM | Link to this

I have to admit that as a long time Donny Osmond fan I was really concerned about the folks who would be sitting up front at his concert versus those of us who are die hard fans that would be pushed further back. I have to say though that at his concert on Saturday night I was sitting on the first row right after the pit tables, and I didn’t see any bad behavior happening and I also didn’t hear the chatter during his performance. He also commented that he really enjoyed the setting and feel of the place! I very much enjoyed the concert (and he did a fantastic show by the way!)

By Bob

June 29, 2005 11:44 AM | Link to this

Okay, let’s get real. Chastain is out of doors. Like ballgames. People feel they can be more demonstrative outside, for some reason. I realize Garrison’s wry whisperings are sacrosanct, but even church/synagogue would get louder if services were held on the lawn. Add booze, and ballgame crowds gets rowdier, too�stand up, blocking views of the action, shout out obscene remarks. Add those corporate morons (not too strong a word, trust me) in the “best� seats, who were probably dragged to the show and would of course find PHC boring. Add the audience’s timidity at the prospect of providing their own behavior police (Anybody try “Shut up, you stupid jerks!� and staying in their faces if necessary until they got the message?) I’ll bet the performers would love you for it! Bouncers? Let’s see, rich, belligerent drunks, hassled by rent-a-cops, equals broken bones and lawsuits. Face it, Chastain is what it is, and wishing it were something else won’t change anything. You would think paying $160. would entitle you to a quality experience, but alas, it just gets you through the turnstile. Bottom line, don’t leave it up to ‘management’ to deal with creeps. Oh, and if all else fails, stroll past the offenders with a full glass of red wine and ‘accidentally’ trip. Do it twice, if necessary. If as a result of this creative approach bones are broken, make sure they’re yours. Lawsuits against rich belligerent drunks work too, you know. Have a fun summer, everyone!

By Sarah

June 29, 2005 11:44 AM | Link to this

Rudeness is from everywhere and is only getting worse everyday. Since the invention of cell phones, people feel free to talk wherever they are. I transplanted here 20 years ago and it has always been bad at Chastain. I think so much of it is that the “corporate tickets” are given away to people who don’t care. I PAID fo Seal a few years ago and couldn’t hear a thing except yakking through the whole show and it wasn’t just down front. I vowed never to go back a long time ago. I agree with David on repremanding the people around you, but sometimes even that doesn’t work.

By Loosy

June 29, 2005 11:44 AM | Link to this

Ugh! you guys are killing me here-good points on all sides-yep too noisy somtimes, yep lame show sometimes, yep the tickets may not belong to someone totally into the artist-but HEY-I like going AND taking my cooler-and I am NOT rowdy-but with all of you griping the next thing I know they will take the coolers and drinks away TOTALLY and what fun is THAT? my rights are invaded enough already around here. If you know it is noisy and it is not your thing wait for your favorite artist to come to a venue that betters suits you and LEAVE THE REST OF US TO HAVE FUN!

By KT

June 29, 2005 11:45 AM | Link to this

You absolutely cannot blame native Atlantans for the lack of manners at Chastain. This has become a city of transplants, who lug their rudeness into the city along with their tacky furnishings. Try taking a leisurely drive in Alpharetta on a Saturday without an SUV coming at you with its horn blaring. Now compare that experience with a walk through a town like Madison, Georgia. I’ve been to many Georgia football games full of drunk, rowdy country boys, but I have never encountered such unabashed use of foul language, so many men stuffing money into a bride’s dress, or so many horrible nasal voices discussing the price of an affair, until I went to a wedding in Pennsylvania.

By Brad Carr

June 29, 2005 11:46 AM | Link to this

OK, I’ve been to many Chastain events and have had to tell people to be quiet or move, or try the “glare” (doesn’t work)or simply try to to enjoy the event anyway. In my experience, it is the transplants that are the rudest, hell, I rarely hear a southern accent in Atlanta any longer, but answer me this - does the event team at Chastain not have any responsibility for controlling the crowd’s behaviour? You can’t talk in a movie theater without being ushered out, I can’t talk (or smoke) in my favorite venue(Handlebar in Greenville, SC) unless it’s a really loud band, for acoustic acts it is forbidden. Why doesn’t someone from the organizer’s management simply come on stage before the show and set the ground rules and then enforce them? Seems simple enough. I’ll be there in two weeks for Mark Knopfler proudly sporting a “Talk and Die” tee-shirt!

By Bob

June 29, 2005 11:50 AM | Link to this

The sound system at Chastain is turned down too low, which allows people to carry on conversations and for others to be able to hear the conversations. Years ago before the neighborhood made them turn the sound down, this was not a problem. That’s why I quit going. In Garrison’s place, it’s just not a good venue for a storyteller with so many people there for the dining experience, not the concert itself.

By rustylynn

June 29, 2005 11:53 AM | Link to this

Not that I care about Garrison Keillor (a gov’t subsidized, half talented bore),however, I will echo his concerns regarding performer’s treatment at Chastain. Ringo Star was interrupted during his last show by some executive type in the front asking him to wish his friend Happy Birthday. (It wasn’t a Southern accent BTW) I was appalled at the disrespect and it seemed Ringo was as well. Ringo also made the comment that he hoped his show wasn’t interrupting anyone’s wine and lobster dinner. He hasn’t been back since…. neither have I.

By Michael

June 29, 2005 11:56 AM | Link to this

I have not been to Chastain recently, but will be attending an event there soon. Not sure about the age of these arrogant fools, but it sounds like the ‘white Collar’ (as Trista put) trashy ‘Hip-Hop’ wanna be’s are there! The ‘Hip-Hop’ crowd ruined Buckhead. Is this the problem???

By Pam O'Donald

June 29, 2005 11:58 AM | Link to this

I had the same experience at an REM concert at Gwinett Arena last October. The yuppies in front of me nearly ruined the concert for those around them. Their main objective in attending the concert seemed to be hanging a large “W” banner from the balcony across the way, and getting sloppy drunk. I hope they read this and recognize who I’m talking about! This proves that expensive clothes and jewelry and cars doesn’t equal class in Atlanta.

By JB

June 29, 2005 11:58 AM | Link to this

I went to Chastain for my first time last week to listen to the Moody Blues. They were outstanding! What I don’t get about Atlanta crowds are the lack of applause and thrill they should give to the artists that they came to see. That’s rude! But..I would hate to see things change at Chastain by implimenting a bunch of rules and taking away the freedom to relax and enjoy the event. C’mon spoilers and duds chill out be pleasant and learn to enjoy what you came to see or leave.

By Amy W.

June 29, 2005 11:59 AM | Link to this

There seems to be trouble with drunks at Chastain. In 1999 as I was driving through the area and a concert at Chastain was letting out my sedan was rear-ended by a Suburban going over 35 mph as I was stopped at a stop sign. The force was so great that it knocked my car about 10-20 feet, caused over $1,000.00 in damages to my car and knocked me into the dashboard causing severe bruising on my legs even though I was wearing my seatbelt. The people in the Suburban got out and were holding wine glasses full of wine in their hands and claimed they had just left the concert at Chastain. As I was injured and they were obviously drunk they fled the scene. I was unable to get their tag. Perhaps patrons of Chastain should have a little more class and not drink to a stupor and disrupt entertainers and especially not to get into their cars and drive.

By Audrey

June 29, 2005 12:10 PM | Link to this

Being a native Atlantan and as others have noted, Atlanta has become home for more northern transplants than natives. That being said… rude, selfish, and pretentious behavior knows no bounds and neither region has cornered the market on bad behavior…well not solely.

I’ve attended many concerts at Chastain, sitting in all areas of the venue, from the front tables to the lawn, and have never had one bad experience…other than an occasional rain shower, but even that let up during the show.

Don’t blame Chastain-Chastain is wonderful. Blame the crowd that’s attending to the same concerts you’re attending. I think there might be a direct correlation with the number of 6000lb-Bush-Cheney-W bumper sticker-donning SUVs in the parking lot and the rude behavior at some Chastain concerts. Someone should do some research.

By Lisa T

June 29, 2005 12:17 PM | Link to this

Rude people are everywhere - you find them in all classes, regions and venues,and at all different kinds of performances. The question is, how does a concert venue deal with them? It seems to me, esp. reading all these posts, that Chastain Park has a big behavior problem that they are not dealing with well, and that is affecting the way the concert-going public - their customers and potential customers - are viewing them. If they want to rescue that image and thus maximize their business potential, they will take some measures to amend the situation. It’s just good business!

By James

June 29, 2005 12:20 PM | Link to this

We stopped going to Chastain Park for the reasons Keillor laid out in his apology to Atlanta. I believe the people he refers to in his apology drive down from North Fulton in their Hummvee’s and think they’re cool and hip with their obnoxious behavior. They usually don’t have a clue as to who the artist on stage really is, and sadly they don’t care, they just think it’s the thing to do to go to Chastain and act like jerks.

By Pete

June 29, 2005 12:23 PM | Link to this

The presence or lack of a regional accent or other affectation is not a reliable factor when determining one’s geograhic origins.

By AA

June 29, 2005 12:26 PM | Link to this

Everybody has their story about attending an event in Atlanta and having to put up with stupid, loud, ugly, drunken, ill-bred, slope-headed, obnoxious, probably-the-product-of-an-incestous-relationship type people. And, we are all taking the advantage of this situation by letting off a little steam in re-telling our story. But, that’s not the point. Garrison Keillor is not high-brow entertainment. He’s a mild-mannered soul from the Mid-West with an entertaining show who was faced with some abominable behavior. He showed he has class by continuing to perform. We - as a one-horse town - showed we had none by making his job difficult. The problem is - if we don’t clean ourselves up, people like Mr. Keillor will think twice about coming down here and performing in a saloon-like atmosphere. We’ll be left with no one listen to except the likes of Big Mama Birtha and her band - the Loud-as-Heck Rondells where it might be advantageous to get drunk in order to get thru the evening. So there - you tacky people.

By Foster

June 29, 2005 12:27 PM | Link to this

I attended a Kenny G concert last month, and everyone around me had to endure a complete idiot talking loudly on his cell phone. When the audience asked him to shut up, he continued talking. Someone nearby requested the assistance of an usher, and the usher acted as if she was too scared to do anything. This city is slowly being ruined by the “Element”- ghetto and redneck folks who think that they can act however they feel and no one better question them.

By Daren Wang

June 29, 2005 12:28 PM | Link to this

I was at the Neil Young show which is mentioned above. It was embarrassing.

I have been listening to Mark Knopfler and Dire Straits for nearly 30 years…and have never seen him live. He’ll be at Chastain in July, but I can’t quite bring myself to sit through that rudeness again.

And it’ll only get worse, because those that want to listen will continue to stay home, and those that want to talk will fill their empty seats and embarass the city.

Chastain needs to change it’s policies, or perhaps the artists themselves should start treating these brats like the kindergartners they behave like.

“I am not going to finish this song until you all quiet down…Tommy in the front row is ruining it for the rest of you… What do you say, Tommy?” “Sorry Ms. Ray, Sorry Ms. Saliers.” Now that, I would pay to see.

By Lisa

June 29, 2005 12:30 PM | Link to this

I have experienced more rudeness at Chastain than any other venue. I don’t think it’s a matter of ‘red-necks’ like some imply. I think it’s the Buckhead location and the “I have $ so I can behave any way I like” attitude. I have attended shows at Mable House Ampitheater (similar venue type) in Cobb Co. and the crowd was wonderful and polite. A truly great concert experience. Tell the musicians to play there instead!

By chip

June 29, 2005 12:40 PM | Link to this

I have only been to Chastain once, and that was back in 1997 to see the Counting Crows and the Wallflowers. It was an awesome show and the atmosphere was great too. After reading these comments and then reflecting on some other shows I have gone to throughout Georgia and South Carolina, I would have to say our society has gone to hell in the way of manners and politeness. I went to see the Eagles back in March in Charleston. That was a great show. The crowd was great, but there were some of those that should have been thrown out. There is something seriously wrong when a 50 year old woman sitting in the upper deck all the way in the back of the venue, takes off her bra and thinks she can throw it to the stage. Anyway, I can’t wait to see what her daughter throws at the Metallica reunion concert when she is 50. It gives me chills just thinking about it, and not the good ones either. Anyway, we can’t blame the North and the South on behavior. Yeah, I agree that a lot of the Yankees I know tend to be loud, obnoxious, and can’t drive worth a damn, but some of my best friends are from the North and are quiet as can be. So if we can rid the world of the loud obnoxious ones then we will be fine. And that also goes for the annoying Southern rednecks that have to yell “FREEBIRD!!” everytime a band begins to play. I am from the South, I was raised with manners and to be polite and nice to everyone I meet. Just because someone doesn’t like a performer, DON’T ruin the show for everyone else. I personally don’t have a problem telling someone to “Shut the f*%# up!”

By Gina

June 29, 2005 12:42 PM | Link to this

I’m confused. Isn’t the whole selling point of Chastain that you can sit outside and have food and drinks in the summer while you listen to a concert? If it was just all about the music, management would change the set-up and concept of the place. I totally agree that it is rude to disrupt a performance by yelling and such, but in that kind of environment, you should expect a little chatter and clinking plates. If you don’t like it, go to one of the dozens of other venues in town that don’t allow “picnics” and alcohol. I’ve only been to Chastain once, and I enjoyed it and don’t remember anyone being outrageously disruptive.

By kerrell goolsby

June 29, 2005 12:46 PM | Link to this

Garrison should have ripped those people on the show live!!!! This was an embarrasment to the people of Atlanta and to his sfx guy from LaGrange!!!! They acted like they were from Macon!

By R Pitzer

June 29, 2005 12:52 PM | Link to this

I had 4 season tickets to Chastain for over 12 years and decided I was tired of paying to hear the Atlanta Socialites talk instead of the Performers. I always felt so bad for those guys. Those of us that were there to listen couldn’t hear for all the “LOUD MOUTHS”. Give these performers a break. Not to mention we paid good money to see the “good and bad” concerts.

Peter Conlin didn’t help much when he took over the ticket process by treating the season ticket holders like crap. Moving us out of our seats so he could get more money for the seats. When he pushed our seats back when the “Big Acts” came in, put the nail in the coffin.

Mr. Keller, I apologize to you for the “rudeness” of the ones that talked. Some people have no manners. There are those that did want to listen.

To those that talked the whole concert, where are your manners? Didn’t anyone ever tell you how rude that is? You really should be ashamed of yourselves. Just don’t go to the concert - GO TO A BAR and yell at each other there for your socializing and let the people “LISTEN TO THE MUSIC”.

By Stephen

June 29, 2005 12:54 PM | Link to this

This unfortunately is another performance ruined at Chastain. Instead of buying expensive tickets for events at Chastain, we might as well just go to local bars for entertainment. That way we can watch drunks make fools of themselves for free. It’s more economical.

By jamie

June 29, 2005 12:56 PM | Link to this

It’s sad that everyone is quick to blame Southerners for bad behavior…it’s usually the transplants that act rude.

By Julie

June 29, 2005 12:59 PM | Link to this

Agreed -Chastain is horrible! If you actually want to see the act that’s on stage, you’ve wasted your money. My husband wanted to get us tickets for this Garrison Keillor show, and we decided against it because of the past few experiences we had there. Thank God we didn’t get them, because we would be fuming now. In the 80’s, Chastain was a great place and people had their booze and picnics but shut up to hear the music or performer -no longer. The last time I went was in 1998 for BB King, and everyone talked so loudly and clanked around so much we could barely hear. When he finally cranked it up a notch and we started dancing -the talkers wanted us to sit down! Given the noise ordinances and shutdown time, I think it’s time for Chastain to give it up. The crowd is horrific and performers are going to quit agreeing to go there -with good reason. Also -it doesn’t seem to be “southern rednecks” causing the problem, but a bunch of Buckhead Betties and Bobs who just want to shout to each other how much the food and wine they brought cost, how much money their kid’s private kindergarten is setting them back, and if they’re going for the BMW 5 series SUV or the Porche Cayenne.

By Woody

June 29, 2005 01:03 PM | Link to this

I moved from Atlanta nearly ten years ago and for some time before then decided to forego what was once a beautiful venue because of the chattering and noise from down front. Obviously the Chastain employee who cites “these rare instances of rude behavior” must be working in the parking lot.

By Lisa

June 29, 2005 01:04 PM | Link to this

First, a history lesson….Since WWII, people from the whole US have been referred to as “Yankees” not just people from the north. Please as least get into the 20th century now that we’re in the 21st century.

Now performance rudeness. I played the violin starting in grade 4. Kids in orchestra, band, and chorus are taught that you are not to talk or walk around during a performance. (This was in New York state). My daughter has been in band since grade 6, she been taught the same thing (Georgia high school).

So, I would conclude rudeness is not a regional thing; it would be a lack of culture.

By Barry Worley

June 29, 2005 01:10 PM | Link to this

Well this topic has drawn some ire from the populace!

Those who’ve commented on the corporate tables are probably correct. It’s not a north/south thing. Trust me on that one! [secret: it happens at other similar US venues as well]

That many in attendance are probably not die hard fans is a real problem for a place like Chastain. The other problem with Chastain is that the neighborhood convinced the city to enforce a maximum volume level and for most shows this is quite noticeable. Every show I’ve seen at Chastain had such low volume that it encouraged chatter. At most venues the volume easily drowns out the talkers. Allowing people to bring in clanking bottles, plates, and silverware doesn’t help at all and eliminating that probably would be a great step towards true civility. And, sell front row seats on the open market for true fans.

By Lisa Lamborn

June 29, 2005 01:18 PM | Link to this

I moved to Atlanta a year ago, and couldn’t wait to go to Chastain. As a paying member of the audience I was CRUSHED and APPAULED at the horrible manners of the other concert goers at Chastain.

People, most of us paid good, hard earned dollars to be at that venue to HEAR the performers, or in this case the author and narrator. The consistent rudeness of the audience (and I don’t mean just the front corporate tables; the entire audience chats up a storm is horrifying.

In defense of some of the folks up top, the volume in the venue is at a ridiculously low level and you cannot hear squat.

Up the volume, toss the loud drunks…let the rest of us who love the music and the venue enjoy why we are there, and not leave EVERY time feeling resentful and culturally dissatisfied.

By Lynnette

June 29, 2005 01:18 PM | Link to this

I’ve been to a few great events at Chastain. It has been a few years back but they were all wonderful experiences. Unfortunately, I was not even aware that Prairie Home Companion was coming to Chastain or I would have purchased tickets for my father. Of course, now that I hear all of this information, I might have thought twice before considering spending the money.

GK, I would like to apologize for the idiots who spoiled the experience for you and the folks who were there for your show.

Y’all come back now, ya hear.

By Derrick

June 29, 2005 01:19 PM | Link to this

I read the comments of Lou Harwell, and while I agree that good manners in a public setting is an admirable trait, his comments about “good breeding” smack of classisim and elitism. He makes it sound as if humans are animals and their financial pedigree determines whether or not they have the common decency to behave in public. I’m not wealthy, and probably will never be (unless I win the lottery), but I know enough to respect others and that’s the product of good upbringing, not how much money I was born with. You can be poor in this country and still behave in proper fashion. Plenty of people from “good, wealthy” families have destroyed what could have been a good time had by all.

By marie

June 29, 2005 01:19 PM | Link to this

Let’s face it people, this is GEORGIA -rednecks at a cultural event are to be expected here— they were just exhibiting their typical red state mentality

By Jon Avery

June 29, 2005 01:23 PM | Link to this

Chastain is a crummy place to go see a show. The transplanted yuppies are the raunchiest group I’ve ever had the displeasure of being around. I’ve been to Lynyrd Skynyrd shows with far better breeding. These people are transplant trash that so happen to know their wine labels and drive Mercedes.

You can take the yuppy out, but you can’t take the jackass out of the yuppy.

By Brian

June 29, 2005 01:24 PM | Link to this

Holding the event at Chastain was asking for trouble. I’ve never been to a show there in my many years in the ATL that wasn’t marred by chatty crowds.

Marie: Delta is ready when you are, babe.

By pamela

June 29, 2005 01:26 PM | Link to this

I have not been back to Chastain in many years for just these many reasons. I used to go very often, but it became very apparent that the folks sitting down front were less concerned about the performers and other audience attendees, than their “drinkfest”! The rest of the audience usually pays a hefty price to watch also, even though not down front. I have sat down there, and let me say, it’s very embarrassing! Something needs to change or Chastain will simply disappear! Maybe those foks could stick to the Monster truck rallies, which are fun and noisy, and they wouldn’t bother a soul!

By Bonnie

June 29, 2005 01:27 PM | Link to this

What a bunch of whiners on this topic. Enjoy Chastain for what it is instead of complaining about what it is not. My husband and I frequently go to Chastain with friends and we always enjoy this unique outside venue. If there are loud or drunk people behind us or in front of us, we ignore it and just enjoy being in this incredible outdoor arena. Yappy annoying people are going to be present at any public performance — they cross socio-economic boundries as well as where they were brought up or where they have moved from. If you want complete quiet, stay home and listen to a CD and skip Chastain. If you want a cool beautiful place to enjoy something uniquely Atlanta than go to Chastain. Either way, quit your whining.

By Bill

June 29, 2005 01:27 PM | Link to this

But on a teacher’s salary, I could only dream about attending.

Oh, boo-hoo.

By Case

June 29, 2005 01:29 PM | Link to this

I am a West Coast transplant and my first experience at Chastain occurred a couple of weeks ago when my idol Aretha Franklin performed. I was excited that I was finally going to see her. My evening instantly hit a sour note when the 2 ladies who sat next to me would not stop talking during the concert. I also felt that a local amateur hip-hop dance troup who performed in between Aretha’s breaks was completely inappropriate for this type of venue. I ended up leaving the show early and was extremely disappointed. I hope my time seeing Donna Summer performed with the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra next month will sway my opinion about Chastain and their audience.

By Southside and Love It

June 29, 2005 01:33 PM | Link to this

Mr. Keillor - if you want to be appreciated by a quiet, attentive crowd, come to the Fred Brown Amphitheater in Peachtree City. Yes, the audience brings their little picnic baskets, but they also still have the good manners and Southern grace their momma taught them. I have enjoyed every single event I ever attended at the “Fred” and the ticket prices are much more reasonable than Chastain. When Art Garfunkel sang in that wonderful voice, you could hear a pin drop. The Righteous Brothers were marvelous, and America rocked it all night long - and gave 2 encores! Here’s a note to all you “Chastain Stuckups”…STAY HOME.

By Lisa Lamborn

June 29, 2005 01:38 PM | Link to this

Wow, having commented already, then reading the “newer posts” I am really upset.

I am a yuppie. I am from the north. There is no way the behavior exhibited at Chastain consistently would ever be tolerated up there. No way. You would be asked to shut up nicely. When you didn’t, security would be asked to move you to a more conversation friendly part of the venue, like the smoking porch, or outside. Your preference.

I have been to well over 3,000 performances in my life. Probably more. The core issue at Chastain isn’t the people at heart. If Chastain put in at least 50 more speakers…small, unobtrusive speakers and the audience could HEAR consistently, then the audience clucking would be immediately reduced. You don’t have to make it louder, but you do have to make it so people can hear.

We had a table at Steve Winwood on Monday evening, and for the first time, ever at that venue, we could hear. People were talking up a storm from the outskirts of the tabled section because the couldn’t hear the music. When the same happens at the tables the clucking carries up.

Fix the sound, fix the rudeness, and don’t go blaming the rudeness on rednecks or yuppies. Blame it on the venue and the stupidity of those that passed the volume laws. Chastain won’t be able to book incredible talent like Mr. Lake Wobegone, Winwood, Aretha, Jeff Beck, or Mark Knopfler. Those performers won’t return.

By Mary Davidson

June 29, 2005 01:45 PM | Link to this

Considering the negative comments about Chastain, and the people that attend, I’m glad that I haven’t spent my hard won $’s to be irritated. Not to mention the fact that I’d have to drive nearl 2 hours to be annoyed. Thanks for letting me know I needn’t bother

By MG

June 29, 2005 01:48 PM | Link to this

I wonder why Garrison never asked the management to warn the loud drunks. Or perhaps he did, but they didn’t want to step on the obnoxious corporate suits’ toes. So Garrison and 6,000 suffered instead. Shame on Chastain Park’s management for being unaware and unresponsive.

By Dave

June 29, 2005 01:52 PM | Link to this

I am someone who is in a position to experience both sides of this dilemma, both the person there to enjoy the event and the corporate sponsor. If you spoil my enjoyment of an event for which I’ve laid out a substantial amount of cash, you and I will probably leaving the event early. Me with the officer, you heading to the dentist….

By MANLY BUFFMAN

June 29, 2005 01:54 PM | Link to this

I don’t know a redneck that would be caught dead at that show, much less pay for it.

By StephenG

June 29, 2005 01:56 PM | Link to this

I hope the management of Chastain is reading this incredibly lengthy thread of complaints…it reminds me why I’ll never go back there for a concert. I’d want to pick a fight with those arrogant, rich idiots.

By Ben McInnes

June 29, 2005 02:05 PM | Link to this

Out of the few asinine comments made here today, surely the ones from “Jamie Smith”, who identifies himself as an employee of Chastain is tops. It appears from his comments that the people who go to Chastain to actually enjoy the concert are the problem, not the loud drunks. We should not be criticizing the “rare instances of rude behaviour that really are few and far between”. RARE? I guess my question to him would be “Have YOU actually been to one of these obnoxious drunk fests?”

Why should I spend money “taking pride in Chastain and support it” when the management takes NO effort to see that the patron who WANT to hear the concert are actually able to enjoy it. Telling us (the people who actually come to enjoy the performance) that WE should be ashamed of OURSELVES instead of trying to do something constructive about the abuse that the performers and respectable members of the audience have to put up with is pathetic. It shows the arrogance of the venue.

Sorry, Jamie, you are not the answer. YOU and the management of Chastain are the problem.

It wouldn’t surprise me in the days to come if the management of Chastain doesn’t ask the performers to hold down their performances because they are interrupting the audience.

By John Bentley

June 29, 2005 02:08 PM | Link to this

People are just plain rude now-a-days. The reason is….because we let them. Nobody seems to want to hold people accountable for their behavior. If we, as a society, would stop putting up with rude, boorish behavior, and make the offenders feel uncomfortable about their actions, then maybe it would stop. Until then, we get what we get.

By CPT

June 29, 2005 02:18 PM | Link to this

We moved from New Jersey to Atlanta in ‘88, just prior to the “transplant” explosion. Tired of the stereotypical bad-mouthing of northerners or rednecks for that matter. I love the south, the north, Atlanta and New Jersey. I went to UGA and bleed red and black. I also look forward to visiting back north where I am treated with the utmost respect. I love to walk into the local deli’s, etc. and encounter true kindness from the folks; eventhough, I now say y’all and speak a bit slower. The true problem here is about people acting decently and respectfully while in the midst of the general public. It’s not about what state your birth certificate says your were born in, it’s about a few “bad apples” spoiling it for the rest. Simple solution - off-duty police and security make their presence known at Chastain’s events and remove the loud and or obnoxious ones.

By MANLY BUFFMAN

June 29, 2005 02:21 PM | Link to this

The word is out SOUTHSIDE AND LOVE IT. There goes “The Fred” Wait you have a good point, Peachtree City is the transplant capitol of Atlanta, so why are they not experiencing the same problems. So who’s right? Maybe there’s a new breed of neither yankee nor redneck decent? hmmm… I think it’s the alcohol, it brings out the best.

By Sandi DeVore

June 29, 2005 02:22 PM | Link to this

i have been in atlanta only a short time. if you like vanessa williams, good. i prefer garrison kiellor. that makes neither of us stupid. i am not a southerner, a yankee, a redneck nor a yuppie. bad manners are just that. so, there needs to be less or no alcohol and security that will boot the inconsiderate people out. surely drunk in public is not allowed here.

By Mr_natural

June 29, 2005 02:24 PM | Link to this

Perhaps we can get the Chastain rowdies to trade places with the polite wine and cheese crowd at Braves home games. God knows Turner field could use a little more noise.

By Mike N

June 29, 2005 02:46 PM | Link to this

This whole thread is just a sad indicator of how childish and self centered we as Americans have become. It isn’t just limited to Atlantans, or rednecks, or yankees, or any other group you can think of. Many people, across the entire demographic spectrum, simply have no manners anymore. We think it’s ok to act like donkeys just because we’ve got some money, or we think it’s funny to yell “Play Freebird!” before every single song even though Lynyrd Skynyrd is nowhere to be found. We just simply don’t care about being considerate of those around us.

Then on the other hand are the several thousand other people in attendance that are politely trying to enjoy the entertainment that we paid to see. Instead of confronting the cause of the rude behavior when and where it happens and trying to put a stop to it, we just sit and stew, and run home to our anonymous message board to vent. Meanwhile, we’re giving tacit approval to the rude behavior by doing nothing to show them that their behavior is not acceptable.

In order for Chastain, in particular, and America in general, to ever improve upon this kind of nonsense, we all have to start behaving and acting like adults. That means that those who are being rude need to stop and think about what you’re doing and how that affects those around you. For those that witness the rudeness and want it to stop, don’t just sit there and do nothing. Politely ask them to stop. If they don’t, seek out authorities that can have them removed. If you suspect that they’re in corporate seats, find out which corporation and contact their CEO and explain your disappointment with their employees and/or clients. I’m sure no corporation would like to have their names attached to such boorish behavior.

Until we start doing these things, it’ll never get better, and we’ll all be worse off for it.

By BERNARD

June 29, 2005 02:47 PM | Link to this

I AM A NATIVE ATLANTAN (40 YRS) WHO FINALLY WISED UP 7 YRS AGO & MOVED TO THE BEACH IN JACKSONVILLE FLA FOR ALL OF THE REASONS THAT ARE BEING MENTIONED. CHASTAIN PARK IS NO LONGER FUN & YES… THE YANKEES ARE TO BLAME! ON ANOTHER NOTE, ANTONIO: YOU SEEM SO BITTER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO BORROW MY SORE-LOSERMAN T-SHIRT FOR YOUR NEXT CONCERT OUTING?

By Atlanta

June 29, 2005 02:48 PM | Link to this

Here’s the deal. Garrison Keilor is the Matlock of this generation’s geriatrics. The people being rude were obviously young people that received free tickets to what they thought were to a washed-up has been singing pathetically with or without the accompaniment of the ASO. Either way they knew the concert was going to be less to their liking than getting hammered in the front row. Then when they found out that Garrison wasn’t even a washed up singer, but the pinup on every retirement homes spinster’s walls, they felt like they got royally screwed. They figured that Mr. Keilor was going to offer nothing in the way of entertainment for the evening, so they decided to create some themselves. I don’t blame them. I blame Mr. Keilor. He wanted the bigger venue to make more money. I say to Mr. Keilor, take your act to a theater or Symphony Hall where your brand of ‘Entertainment for the Elderly’ can take place in the proper stuffy environment. I did, however, hear that Mr. Keilor’s audio tapes are being sold over the counter at drug stores in lieu of sedatives.

By johnlg

June 29, 2005 02:49 PM | Link to this

Screen on the Green was the same way for its first two weeks. Usually one or two drunks that can’t shut their mouth. Maybe the police should spend less time doing their “click it or ticket” campaign and spend more time enforcing drunk and disorderly laws.

By Dave

June 29, 2005 02:55 PM | Link to this

I agree with CPT, Sandi and Mike. Quit blaming problems on sets of people. Rude people are rude, regardless of anything else. I was born and raised in Marietta / East Cobb, which is an even mix of north and south. Great place, really, and maybe it led to my middle-of-the-road, who cares attitude about North vs. South.

By mister c

June 29, 2005 02:55 PM | Link to this

I haven’t been to Chastain, but I’m sure the same applies to most places. The sound is usually lousy. Down front or way in the back. With or without talking, etc.. You will always have the too loud is never loud enough folks vs the neighbors that would like to be able to get some sleep after a certain time. When do they close the airport in Ontario CA or at PDK airport so the planes taking of and landing won’t offend anyone?

And the prices. What Mr. Kellior received or demanded for appearing probably wasn’t reflected in your ticket price. Sure he probably required a minimum, but how much was paid to the promoters, his agents, the local tax authorities and of course the suits that want to make some money from operating Chastian or any business. If the paying attendance drops, then you will need higher prices or more corporate sponsors to make up that short-fall.

Maybe there should be a study for alternative uses for the site. How about a nice Home Depot or a Wal-Mart?

By amy chu

June 29, 2005 02:56 PM | Link to this

Dear Susan, I believe that this blog was intended to bring up issues about Garrison’s concert at Chastain, not your issues with so called “rednecks”. I find it very intersting how quickly you turned this blog into something totally different, an arena of hatred, prejudice and ignorance. I think that if you don’t like the South and the “rednecks” that live her, Go the hell back home!!!

By Dave

June 29, 2005 03:00 PM | Link to this

Way to go Amy!! You tell her!! Great job, my yellow friend.

By Dave

June 29, 2005 03:01 PM | Link to this

In my opinion, we should keep an eye on the WEST!

Those westerner freaks make me suspicious.

Just kidding, of course.

By amy chu

June 29, 2005 03:06 PM | Link to this

BTW Dave, My maiden name is Balmer. Nice of you to assume that because of my last name I am Asian. You truley are an ignorate, prejudice fool, just like Susan!!

By gkelly

June 29, 2005 03:12 PM | Link to this

Everyone who has had any exposure to Chastain Park as a venue knows about it’s reputation as a hangout for boorish, self-absorbed audiences. As soon as I heard that PHC was being held there, I predicted this kind of outcome. Mr. Keillor should have been better informed about what to expect. I, generally, enjoy the show and hope that he will return someday. Maybe this episode will result in better planning and better shows in Atlanta in the near future. I doubt that Chastain will change to any degree.

By Dave

June 29, 2005 03:15 PM | Link to this

You got me all wrong, Amy. I was supporting you as an Asian-American in sticking up for your southern rights. Lord knows there are plenty of your people proud of living in the south off of Buford Highway in Chamblee. And I truly hope that doesn’t make me ignorate.

By tim

June 29, 2005 03:22 PM | Link to this

You would have to be pretty drunk to be entertained by Garrison Keillor & Prairie Home Companion.

By Paul

June 29, 2005 03:24 PM | Link to this

What a disgrace for Atlanta! The problem is arrogant yuppies. They populate those expensive tables—and usually they received their tickets through some connection to the Atlanta business community. This city is a mecca of business; “art” to that world is anything that makes them feel good and keeps them safely in their envelope and does not demand much of them in the way of attention or thought. The loudest acts win at Chastain because at least then the self-absorbed yapping of these people cannot penetrate the wall of sound coming from the stage; then they HAVE to pay attention because they can’t hear themselves. But drop the music too low and these drunks do what comes naturally—they bring the focus back to who they think is most important, which is of course themselves.

By Wanda

June 29, 2005 03:34 PM | Link to this

Bottom line, Chastain is a horrible venue. Hard to find, no place to park, poorly maintained, not enough bathrooms, seating plan is idiotic, sound system is non existant, prices are outrageous. And then there come the yuppies with their little rolling coolers and uppity attitudes and no idea who will actually be on stage that night. No thanks.

By Swan

June 29, 2005 03:36 PM | Link to this

“They figured that Mr. Keilor was going to offer nothing in the way of entertainment for the evening, so they decided to create some themselves. I don’t blame them.”

Hey, Atlanta, was that you driving the Cadillac Escalade, talking on your cell phone and driving 100 mph on Ga. 400? Yeah, thought that was you. Hope you make it to your AA meeting.

By preston

June 29, 2005 03:41 PM | Link to this

I was born and raised in Atlanta but moved years ago. had a lovely time listening to the show on the radio. I only heard a few woof woofs. But I am familiar with what Atlanta has become. If my mother didn’t live there I would not return.

By DD

June 29, 2005 03:46 PM | Link to this

Hey amy chu It’s truly not truely and ignorant not ingorate. Your redneck language skills are showing.

By Dale

June 29, 2005 03:49 PM | Link to this

Donna Summer and the Atlanta Symphony?

Surely this will rupture the space-time continuum and send us into an alternate doomsday, Orwellian universe.

Oh, wait…never mind.

By heywood jablome

June 29, 2005 03:52 PM | Link to this

maybe all those loudmouth yankee-redneck-yuppie scum drunks show go to one of the ATL’s othere wonderful entertainment options like the world of coke or the mall.

atlanta sucks and continues to keep sucking. however, the new guard is way better than the boring indigenous cretins.

By pat mcgroin

June 29, 2005 03:55 PM | Link to this

hopefully someone broke the tension by yelling “git r done”

hilarious!

By Reality Check

June 29, 2005 03:55 PM | Link to this

Part of the allure of Chastain is sitting in the tables, being with friends, soaking up the atmosphere and enjoying what’s in your cooler. Take this away and you might as well be in the suburbs of Anywhere USA.

I’ve seen dozens of shows at Chastain, in good seats and in bad, I have no complaints. The vast majority of the acts do not complain either and return year after year. It’s a unique venue and not designed to have a “spoken word” artist as an act. Get over it or don’t go if you don’t like it. Chastain hasn’t changed in the 20 years I have lived here nor have the attendees.

By DD

June 29, 2005 03:56 PM | Link to this

What did you expect ? Chastain is a terrible venue, the seating plan in poor, the parking is awful, the prices are high, the lack of restrooms is annoying and worst of all the sound level restrictions means you can’t hear if a nat so much as farts. Take these venue issues and mix it with a self absorbed wanna be like Garrison Keillor and you get exaclty what happened Friday.

By Lew T

June 29, 2005 03:59 PM | Link to this

Well, I happen to BE the season ticket owner of a front row table for both Symphony and Conlon series. I can say for a fact, it is not the people in the front tables creating the problem. It would certainly look that way to people in the back. What happens is that people from the cheap seats weasel their way up to those tables (usually with the pretense of taking a picture), then stand, holler, scream. The people in front don’t need to do any of that, and are quite comfortable where there are, but I have had a very frequent problem with interlopers, who then create havoc, usually in the second half of the show, once they get a certain number there that overwhelms the ushers. I’ve asked the ushers and guards about and been told frankly that their job is to protect the stage from people climbing onto the stage. Concerning some of the posts, I absolutely agree that PHC was a poor choice for an outdoor, dining venue. At Chastain you have to win over the audience, as people say, because they are frequently there because it’s part of the series. I’ve seen Johnny Mathis and Peter, Paul, and Mary bring the crowd to an absolute hush. On the other hand, I’ve seen dismal former-weres on the stage who bore the audience who then turn to their food and wine.
Personally, I’ve learned the etiquette of front row of not eating during a song, putting down the glass to clap afterwards, and simply smiling appreciatively.
As my reward, I’ve been invited backstage numerous times by the performer (who sends an assistant.) Joan Baez even asked if she could share a glass of our wine, Temptation/4Tops have passed us a mike to sing along with them several times now.
I’ve sat in a variety of areas of the park over the years as my table location upgraded, and I’d have to say the front is the best behaved, followed by the first few rows of tables behind the main floor. On the other hand, the most problem I’ve seen has been from people who weave their way to the front, without a ticket there, then stand and yell and dance.

By jake

June 29, 2005 04:00 PM | Link to this

Atlanta’s nuevo riche wannabees are a comedy…or is that a tragedy? Grow up, Atlanta!

By Atlanta

June 29, 2005 04:02 PM | Link to this

Hey Swan, I wasn’t in the Escalade b/c I’m not a rapper or a football player, and I would say I was doing only 85 mph in my Volvo. I WAS on my cell phone telling my secretary to fire or force into retirement a couple of dinosaurs like you we had hanging around giving the office that old person smell. And we call my drinking habits a ‘fully funtioning alcholoism.’ They taught me how to pull it off in college.

Hey, Swan. Did you enjoy the show with Mr. Keilor? Enjoy hearing about the good old days? Enjoy snacking on your dried apricots and prunes while washing it down with your Metamucil milkshake? If you can’t hear the boring entertainer, just turn up your hearing aid. Why don’t you do us all a favor and waste away from all social interaction like most people your age only to pop up randomly in the right lane with your blinker always on, wearing a sweater in 90 degree heat and the classic dark black goggles you AARP voting geriatrics call sunglasses. The world has passed you by, and now you’re bitter. Well, keep your dentures in, and sit on your sofa with a quilt over your legs and comb the anger away with your the Ultimate Cat Grooming Tool you ordered off the TV commercial you saw during an old Perry Mason rerun.

By Atlanta to you too

June 29, 2005 04:07 PM | Link to this

Hey Atlanta, the sweat justice is that you too will be old…and some punk kid will absolutley stick it to you. Enjoy!

By Andrew

June 29, 2005 04:12 PM | Link to this

Perhaps the good folks at Chastain need to take a page out of Ravinia’s (in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park) operating manual. There is an amphitheater with seats only and a lawn area in the back where people can picnic with their wine, beer, crackers and whatever else. It is not unlike the Lakewood Amphitheater (is it still called that and set up in that fashion?), albeit on a smaller scale.

As for the demographics, I would venture to guess that it is both the locals and the transplants that are guilty of the boorish behavior. I was born and raised in Atlanta, but attended school and lived in the North/Midwest for several years and find that Atlanta has become a much ruder place, even moreso than places like Chicago, in my opinion.

By RIchard

June 29, 2005 04:13 PM | Link to this

The true irony is that Chastain is a wonderful place to attend a concert. Sitting under the sky in the amphitheater as the day turns to night while listening to music is a great way to spend an evening. The aisles are wide an allow unlimited legroom. Unfortunately, many of those attending find that the music makes their conversation difficult and talk louder to be heard over the music. During the recent Steve Winwood concert I sat behind a group at a table that played cards until it was too dark to see, this accompanied by the usual loud conversation card players typically have.

While concerts with tables is unique at Chastain, the tables only serve to invite this boorish behavior. We’re at the point where the table crowd either needs to shut up or have their precious tables taken away.

By Atlanta

June 29, 2005 04:16 PM | Link to this

To you too,

Sweat justice just sounds dirty, so please watch your mouth. But right now, I have a few things on my side that all the Garrison Keilor fans out there would kill for. The most important being youth, of course. Aging gracefully, my a*. Also, being single and having the ability to care less what old farts like you people think is a power that might not last forever, but right now it’s pretty damn entertaining.

By Tom

June 29, 2005 04:16 PM | Link to this

Why is it that this is turning toward calling names? It doesn’t matter whether it’s we “yankees”, you “southerners”, or you “rednecks”, we should all have or learn some damn manners. What’s so darn hard about this concept? Unfortunately many of us just don’t give a damn about other people and to those who don’t care, what goes around comes around.

By Dale

June 29, 2005 04:16 PM | Link to this

This is to correct a misstatement of fact by a previous poster.

Garrison Keillor is not a “self absored wannabe.” He is a Democrat.

By Mr_natural

June 29, 2005 04:17 PM | Link to this

Anyone who thinks southerners are polite and well mannered at public events haven’t been to a Nascar race, apparently

By dww

June 29, 2005 04:25 PM | Link to this

I love Chastain. If you want the same old sanitized arena to enjoy concerts there are plenty of places that will happy to take your $8 bucks or more for a can of warm beer ( or Coke for you non imbibers )and charge you an insane ticket price so you can sit amongst thousands of people in climate controlled, plenty of potties bliss. You can also buy some premium priced crummy concession food too. There will still be drunks, of course, but the din from the ear splitting acoustics will drown them out. Have a nice time !

By bb

June 29, 2005 04:26 PM | Link to this

A bit of advice for G Keillor, Delta is always ready when you are….leave! The loud wine sippers saved the rest from listening to the boring rant of a left wing liberal who makes Michael Moore seem moderate. If you were offended by Chastain attendees, here’s an idea to prevent a future occurence of same…don’t come back!

By Jake

June 29, 2005 04:32 PM | Link to this

Hey Atlanta, you have a date with destiny…can’t stop it my friend.

You probably woke up at 10 AM today, spent two hours looking at yourself in the mirror, spent another hour deciding if you should coif your hair forward, backward, to the left, or up and to the left, spent another second counting your retirement dimes, then ended up surfing the web because you have a great job. So much for you to learn, young grasshopper. And guess what, none of it is about you.

By Atlanta

June 29, 2005 04:56 PM | Link to this

Ahhh, Jake. You make it sound so great to be me that I can’t deny it. I do have a great job, and I got up around 9:00 today after I gave the model I took home last night cab fare to get home. But all the personal hygeine isn’t necessary when you are as devastatingly handsome as I am. I did spend a good hour after lunch looking for a few choice pieces for my loft in the new IKEA store. Remember Jake, envy is a sin.

By Nancy

June 29, 2005 04:58 PM | Link to this

For all those who have made negative remarks about Atlanta crowds being rude and Atlanta being synonomous with Redneck, may I ask: Did it ever occur to you that some of these inconsiderate, yet affluent ones might be transplants from, oh let’s say, up north?

By Bill

June 29, 2005 04:59 PM | Link to this

Atlanta: You guys will never understand that you are the problem and there is nothing that the rest of us will ever do to change your rude arrogant self serving attitude.

By Jaketoo

June 29, 2005 04:59 PM | Link to this

What is this, artist (and I use the term very loosely for GK) as god? Did he return one single cent to those 6000 fans? Noooo. Took all that money for a medicre performance and then had the nerve to cry like a little baby all the way to the bank. He is a boor and a thief and should be permanently banned from the A-T-L.

By Barb

June 29, 2005 05:19 PM | Link to this

I’d just like to know one thing…how can one be sure that the blame lay solely on southerners or northerners, or transplants in general? Are they wearing signs indicating where they’re from? Can you tell just by looking at them? Did you ask each and every disruptive person where they were from?

By Trey

June 29, 2005 05:37 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe what I am reading (or that I took the time to read it…but hey, it’s a slow day). Only a few people have discovered the true problem that has caused this massive response: the noise restrictions. When “The Who” or “The Beatles” (pretty big acts, I think we can all agree) encountered “rowdy” audiences, they cranked up their amplifiers and blew the crowd away with sound. It’s true that it’s hard to talk on a cellphone at a show when the volume is at the “right” level. Trust me…I’m in a band and that’s what I will do. It’s a concert, not background music. All of the people that are initiating a “class-warfare” rant, or attacking the drunks, or the rednecks, or the yankees, or the old people, are missing the point. It is entertainment. If you aren’t entertained, then why is it not the performer’s fault? Why is it the fault of your neighbor. And let me rant for a second…all of the people that complain about the “chattiness” of the crowd would probably complain just as much about how the show was too loud if indeed the sound was turned up just loud enough to drown out the ability to have an in-depth conversation. Just proves that when you why you to please (with a low decibel concert), you only create other problems. In spite of all of this, I have always enjoyed my shows at Chastain and will continue to buy tickets for the shows (not season tickets..they do have alot of fluff) that I want to see.

By Rusty

June 30, 2005 12:09 PM | Link to this

I agree with Trey. The last concert I saw at Chastain was ZZ Top — I heard every song perfectly and not a bit of chit-chat.

By D

July 1, 2005 11:20 AM | Link to this

Let’s keep this simple. If you like the artist who’s playing, show up, enjoy yourself, and keep conversation to a minimum so that you don’t interfere with others enjoyment of the show. If you don’t like the performer, why go? Just because someone gives you free tickets? Remember, many people paid good money to see the performers, not to listen to social chatter. Its nice to have the picnic atmosphere and listen to music, just remember that others are there to listen too. See you from the Cheap Seats at Lyle Lovett and BB King.