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Gwinnett stadium eats money

The Gwinnett County Commission has voted to spend another $19 million on its new baseball stadium. They did so Monday without taxpayer input.

The stadium will now cost $59 million, a nearly 50 percent increase. Ouch. Looks like the county’s field of dreams is eating up a lot of money at a time when many of us are pinching pennies.

My Saturday column will deal with my take on the stadium issue. Read it in the print edition of The Atlanta-Journal Constitution.

Until then, though, I’d like for readers to share their views on the matter.

Please feel free to post your comments.

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By NOWICUNVME

September 2, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

Aren’t these the same commissioners that just announced a hiring freeze??? Forclosures are sky high. Unemployment rates are the highest in 5 years. People are losing their cars, businesses and their hope. I guess when they voted the idealism used was “kick em while they’re down”, “hit em hard and hit em fast”. That’s par for the course. Sounds like it’s already pretty much a done deal. Gotta love Gwinnett County and their dictatorship views! Hopefully the stadium will bring in the revenues to offset the $59 million and give people some jobs!

By Cindy

September 2, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

I’d like to share my views, but, but, but sniff when I do, sniff, sniff people call me creepy and racist and say I are a confederate flag toting person. And they describe me with words like xenophobic and colloquialisms and transparent…and, and, sniff it makes me cry and feel bad and stuff.

Psyche. Gotcha! Had you going huh? Lemme go watch the video so I can make an informed comment, instead of flying by the seat of my pants and talking junk to hear myself talk.

By Bruce Wilcox

September 2, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this

Gee, no public input allowed, oh wait, they didn’t ask for any when they decided to build it in the first place.

Open government is closed in Gwinnett.

I guess you get/elect what the developers pay for.

By James

September 2, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

Lets see. My Gwinnett property taxes increased by 61% this year. I’ve had to lay off workers, and Gwinnett politicians decided they need to build a new minor league baseball stadium which benefits who? What will it take for the people of this great land to WAKE UP and vote these thieves out of office. Politicians make me ill.

By Vote Democrat

September 2, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this

There is a choice.

The current batch of cronies on the commission can be voted out.

By Michael H. Smith

September 2, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this

Pipeline $13 million over budget. Ballpark $19 million over budget, which would come out of the county’s reserve fund. $16.7 million to replace county transit buses.

Considering the way the county is spending taxpayer money Mr. Badie, I don’t think I can afford the cost overrun of sharing a viewpoint.

By Steve

September 2, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this

Foreclosures aren’t the counties fault. It’s stupid people getting in over their heads with no backup plan, or proper training to find new work. The job market is booming here, for those smart and competent enough. Crap happens sometimes, I know this. Bad circumstances kick in, and you lose your home. Not the end of the world. If you have to blame someone, blame the banks for allowing this.

Anyways, nothing more I hate than college ball and minor league sports. It’s merely a stepping stone to the big leagues, nothing more. I won’t go to any games at this stadium because they would bore me. I also can care less how much the county decides to spend on it. As much as I hate it, I don’t mind it being built. Just like the Arena, and the ampatheaters in the area. Someone out there does like it, and the more entertainment that goes up, the better I will be able to sell my home when I’m ready to kiss the backwoods state goodbye and return to my real home. The East is just not for me. I realized this once I saw everyone praying for it to rain and solve the drought problem. Once I saw how everyone here drives like morons. I can’t go a day without seeing someone do something stupid on the road. Once I saw how rude everyone is while putting on a deceptive smile. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

After living here, I feel the rest of the country should’ve gone ahead and let the south split off. It’s a whole different world down here.

Rant off.

By Tommy

September 3, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this

No public input: Gwinnett to pay $19M more for stadium By MICHAEL PEARSON The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Tuesday, September 02, 2008

This is only a portion of the article:

The Gwinnett Convention and Visitors Bureau, which is building the stadium on behalf of the county, revealed Friday that the stadium’s cost had escalated dramatically because of design decisions made since work at the site began.

“Who made these bad decisions?”

Because the county is under a tight deadline to finish the project in time for the April 2009 opening of the team that will be called the Gwinnett Braves, designers were drawing specs for parts of the stadium even as other work was ongoing.

“So, how was this job handled in the bidding process without a completed set of drawings?”

Among other things, the increased price tag includes a concourse that circles the stadium — the original design excluded the outfield — as well as a canopy over part of the stadium, underground storm water retention and upgraded finishes.

“Is the additional canopy necessary?”

“The storm design should have been one of the first things done on this project. Was it decided that underground water retention was a better, yet much more expensive option because the site was too small to accommodate a pond?”

If the reason’s for the additional costs are based on what the article said, get ready because you haven’t seen the last of the increases.

You would think someone working with a 40-million dollar budget could do a better job of preliminary design.

It appears that the designers were still drawing on the plans while work had already started.

It is a foolish person who does not plan properly and count all of the cost before starting a project!

By townie

September 3, 2008 7:49 AM | Link to this

This is so disgusting. Just look at these quotes from the AJC atricle:

“Commissioners said the decision didn’t require public debate because there was little choice but to approve the money, without which project officials said they could not build the stadium currently coming out of the ground..”

Nice move. Start the work knowing that it would have a serious cost overrun.

“…now the county’s cash contribution rise from the initial pledge of $12 million to a total of $31 million.”

Now here is the real story. Not that the total project is up over 50%, but that the TAXPAYERS “contribution” has increased by 258%!!!!!!!!!

“…revealed Friday that the stadium’s cost had escalated dramatically because of design decisions made since work at the site began.”

Wait a minute - they could make changes which increased the cost after work began - but NOW they CANNOT change the plans????!!???

I feel sick.

By MSB

September 3, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

It seems to me that a “reserve” fund should be reserved for emergency situations. A baseball stadium may bring 20 million per year, but I don’t think it’s an emergency for it to have a canopy…? Maybe the retention area, but the canopy could probably wait.

By roska

September 3, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Remember that Bert Nasuti (who stood up at the podium wearing a Braves hat) is nowhere to be seen on this. He wasn’t even AT the meeting on Wednesday when the $19M was approved. In fact he seems to miss a lot of tough votes - isn’t that convenient?

Charles Bannister has made no comment and doesn’t even seem to know what’s going on. Shouldn’t the Chairman of the county at least have a clue?

Kenerly seems to have no problem sending another $19M to construction firms but that shouldn’t be surprising given that he seems to own a lot of land in the county and will probably benefit from the stadium construction in some way.

Only Beaudreau and Green have seemed to have any hesitancy about this mess. Too late to fix it but at least they both seem to give a damn.

The guy who really does seem to run the county, Jock Connell, apparantly has no knowledge of what’s going on either. I actually find Connell’s lack of competency more disturbing than anything else in this matter.

I must conclude that a few good old boys who owned the land (the stadium is on) and the construction companies that are building the project are in control. When they run out of money they simply go back to the taxpayer for more because they know Bannister, Kenerly and Nasuti will cough it up and it only takes three votes to get something passed.

We’ve had chances to vote all these politicians out folks! The same people who complain about the decisions made in the county keep sending the same old crowd back for yet another term - heck the people who complain probably didn’t vote is more accurate!

We’re all screwed.

By HCR

September 3, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

What about thr ROME Braves? They have a stadium just a few years old. A short 1 hour drive north of Atlanta. Was there a need for this? The taxpayers are getting hosed. Image that.

By There Ain't No Such Thing As Halfway Crooks

September 3, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

With “leadership” like this who in the hell wants to follow? The Gwinnett Board of Commissioners is willing bankrupt the county at the expense of public safety to satisfy their own self-centered goals and misguided ambitions. $19 million for minor-league baseball but not one red cent more to deal with the rash of drug-related kidnappings, armed robberies, home invasions and murders? Not one red cent to the men and women who make up the thin blue line that keeps our society from plunging into anarchy? I forgot, the Gwinnett BOC looks to be right at home amongst the criminal element considering how they’ve stuck it to the taxpayers time and again in this county. With “friends” like Lorraine Green, Charles Bannister, Bert “Quality of Life” Nasuti, Kevin Kennerly, Jock Connell and Mike “lost sleep over sticking it to the taxpayers, but I’m going to do it anyways and enjoy it” Beaudreau, who needs enemies? Just ask Police Chief Walters and District Attorney, they’ve lost count of how many times they’ve the long blade plunged into their backs by this crooked and disasterous bunch of lying, thieving, coniving idiots! No money for basic government services, PLAY BALL!!!

By Vote Democrat

September 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

There’s an alternative.

Vote ‘em out.

By Katie

September 3, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

All I can say is ‘typical’. Now they are going to charge an arm and leg for people to go to the stadium which defeats the purpose of having a ‘neighborhood’ stadium. If we are going to be charged Turner field prices we may as well go to Turner field. Typical Georgia politics—backwards as can be!!!

By Pompano

September 3, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

This just scratches the surface of the shady land deals that go on in Gwinnett. There are numerous instances of land being flipped just before a purchase by the county - often times at as much as 5X over the previous purchase price.

Incumbents (at all levels of gov’t) are the biggest threats to our Society.

By Sandy_G

September 3, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

“Kenerly seems to have no problem sending another $19M to construction firms but that shouldn’t be surprising given that he seems to own a lot of land in the county and will probably benefit from the stadium construction in some way.”

Roska, You are quite correct. According to the Gwinnett County Tax Assessor’s web site, Kevin Kenerly owns a 50-acre tract of property approximately 2,000 feet from the new stadium site. It’s on the corner of Buford Drive and Laurel Crossing Parkway and it’s owned under the name I-85/GA 20 Ventures, Inc. of which, Kevin Kenerly is listed as the CEO, CFO and Secretary.

You have to wonder, why he purchased this property in October of 2007, just two months before the announcement that the Braves were moving to Gwinnett County and a new stadium would be built on Buford Drive?

It could be entirely coincidence, it could be an error on the Gwinnett County Tax Appraiser’s site, or it could be a pertinent question for Mr. Kenerly to respond to. Seems to me, a large piece of property that is between the new stadium and I-85 and will be passed by 1,000’s of people coming and going to and from the games, would see it’s value increase after that stadium is built. Of course, that’s just conjecture on my part and I’m just an ordinary citizen/taxpayer, so what do I know?

By Jais

September 3, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Ok ok, ok. Okay. Here’s how it is:

You folks need to do like I did and make some calls, write some emails or letters (email seems to reach politicians faster these days)To our senators and the governor’s office. To the FBI’s GBI division and DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

I know it looks stupid. I would have told me so five months ago but the day after I made my staement to the gov’s office, it was returned by one of his aides and the local police department was investigated for using rigged radar units (which I had no idea that’s how they were doing it)and were promptly disciplined.

Not to mention that my email to their office this week DID receive a response with a favorable pledge to get immigration services out here and bus some of these bandieros home. It blows my mind to think they give a crap, but it’s kind of a no brainer right now. ELECTION YEAR = SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE.

this is the way it has always been here, these asswipes don’t understand anything till you hold them in front of a jail cell or lighten their pocketbook. Money, that’s all any of these career charlatains understand. Making it or losing it. I suggest to you, all my blogmates, to begin squeaking like a horde of mice. If one of me taking maybe an hour to call and talk to some agents of the state gets things done, imagine just how bad more of you would be to their establishment. In all honesty I see alot of talk but no follow through. I KNOW that most of you have never attempted to bring this to the attention of authorities. If you did, they might just know about it and bust someone’s a$$ for what they do to us.

By Don S.

September 3, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

It is amazing at how the cost has grown. The feasability study recommended 25+ acres but the BOC said we could do it on 12 acres with the Brand Morgan property next door, remember this is who the county bought the land from. Now we need another 6 million dollors for the storm water retention. I do not know if we are building this on his land or the counties but that would be something to find out, I do know the rock is not on the counties land that was sited for the cost over runs. Did somebody not do geological surveys before building?

We have no money to staff new parks coming on line in the county or to upgrade items already in existance. We ask county worked to cut hours and are even thinking about layoffs yet we can spend 19 million for Liberty media to profit off of the Gwinnett Braves.

I think the first two layoffs should be Jock Connell and Mike Comer and we just need to impeach Bannister. With the poor decisions these people make not having anyone in the job would not matter.

The BOC thinks everyone in the county is for this, their heads must be burried in the sand or they cannot read. The later may be the case since they can not read cost estimates.

The Richmond stadium was built in 1985 and is now out of date. With this logic the Gwinnett Stadium will be obsolite in 2039. At a cost of 60 million and a 30 year life span this will only cost us 2 million each year before any interest on the bonds and maintenance. tell me how “this is going to make money from day one (JC).” Now I know why Mike Comer when asked could not come up with an estimate for the bond debt service, his answer was ” I do not have a crystal ball and it is an ever changing market (MC)” I ask if we do not know what something is going to cost how can we say it will make money?

Yes Gwinnett, these are the peole running our county, do you not wonder how thet run their own households?

I pose this question, what do you think if the four thousand season ticket holders price went from $4,000 to $6,000 would say when the explanation is ” you just have to expect this?”

The city of Atlanta and Fulton County have nothing on us anymore. I think the entire bunch is now ready for a position in Washington!

I just wonder how long it will take for every citizen to wake up and see how much this is going to cost them.

By Crusader

September 3, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Sandy_G:

If what you say is true then Kenerly would obviously have a financial conflict of interest and should have recused himself from voting on the stadium. No way he should be able to raise his own property value by voting taxpayer money.

The other thing that is interesting is that Commissioner Bert Nasuti’s law partner (J. Patrick O’Brien) is Kenerly’s lawyer.

So how MIGHT Kenerly know to purchase a key piece of property a couple months before the Braves came into the picture? Perhaps someone in the know (like Nasuti who negotiated the deal) MAY have mentioned something to his law partner (O’Brien) who MAY have mentioned something to Kenerly. SUPPOSING Kenerly found out anything about the Braves deal from his OWN LAWYER the whole transaction would be under attorney-client privilege wouldn’t it?

Nice.

This all starts to make more sense now and it stinks. Somebody should go to the joint over this one.

By Cindy

September 3, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

With the exception of it being the tax commissioners website, not tax assessors.

https://ssl.gwinnetttaxcommissioner.com/Property/Search.aspx

By Rebecca

September 3, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

This is so sad. I was really looking forward to driving just a short hop to Gwinnett to see my favorite out of town team, the Mud Hens, play. Now I’ll feel guilty about supporting Kenerly and his kronies’ little get-rich-quick scheme.

Seriously, good people of Gwinnett, on Election Day, when you see the little “I” next to someone’s name, vote for the other person. Every time.

By Sandy_G

September 3, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Parcel numbers, R7145 079, R7146 029, R7146 002, R7145 077, R7146 030. Listed under I-85/ga 20 Ventures, Inc.

The Georgia Secretary of State’s website http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/csearch.asp lists I-85/GA 20 Ventures, Inc. as having Kevin Kenerly as CEO, CFO, Registered Agent and Secretary.

If there is no conflict of interest on Kenerly’s part, then perhaps he can comment publicly and clear this up?

By Homer

September 3, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

God is punishing Gwinnett County for allowing beer sales at the stadium !….5 years from now, “your” Braves will be demanding improvements and more money or they’ll threaten to move to the next county gullible enough to subsidize a for-profit corporation…..they need this money to give their players a livable wage ! hahahahahahahahahahahah

By Pete

September 3, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

As I’ve said before, I support the stadium, but I question the wisdom of adding luxury features at a time when the county is cutting back or freezing growth in other areas. I think we have to drive a harder bargain with the project managers and contractors, and if there is inappropriate financial interest on the part of county commissioners or others, it should be exposed. Again, if you take $19M, divide it by a $60,000 loaded salary figure, you could hire over 300 firefighters, police officers, or teachers.

By ghostwriter

September 3, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

This is the Mayor of Atlanta’s fault.

By DD

September 3, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

What do you expect? Only 4% of the electorate bothers to vote and most don’t have a clue that Richard Tucker has his way with our taxes.

By Don S.

September 3, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

So does anyone here think this was another back door good ole boy real estate transaction?

The next question is to see who is on the board of Brand Bank and ere Mr. Tucker fits into this.

Heck the contract between the GCVB and the Braves was a father son deal.

I just drove pas tthe site and there is a lot more grading going on than twelve acres. I wonder how much of Brand Morgan’s land we are payiong to grade?

By Tyre Hester

September 3, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

I have already told my district 3 commissioner that I am voting democrat in the Fall. Guess that goes for the Chairman, too!

By Mark

September 3, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

It appears that we pretty much agree that the way the most of the Gwinnett County Commission conducts business is shameful and unethical. For the most part, they are an arrogant bunch that needs to be replaced. So the question is: how do we channel the energy on this page to get some of these commissioners into a new line of work?

By Mark

September 3, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

It appears that we pretty much agree that the way the most of the Gwinnett County Commission conducts business is shameful and unethical. For the most part, they are an arrogant bunch that needs to be replaced. So the question is: how do we channel the energy on this page to get some of these commissioners into a new line of work?

By Taggs Payur

September 3, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Kenerly is a crook. Flat statement. No waffling. He is a dishonest and reprehensible creep. When he first ran for office, he was flat broke. Lived in daddy’s basement and couldn’t even afford the qualifying fee. Now, he is high-rolling Vegas operator and a nouveau riche member of what passes for the landed gentry in these parts. Connect the dots. You cannot be honest AND get rich in public office.

And, for the record, all the communisters voted for this boondoggle — including RINO Green-butt.

By Balance

September 3, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this

Why Obama Can’t Close the Sale By AL HUBBARD and NOAM NEUSNER September 3, 2008; Page A23

Even before John McCain shook up the presidential race by tapping Gov. Sarah Palin to be his running mate, polls weren’t showing the late-August lead that Barack Obama (and many Republicans) expected. Why so?

It’s not because of the brilliance of the McCain campaign. Rather we believe that — despite the media’s best efforts to exempt Mr. Obama’s policies from critical examination — American voters aren’t sheep. They pay attention to the candidates and positions and make wise decisions about who should lead the country.

True, Mr. Obama enjoys several advantages. Republicans are struggling nationwide in head-to-head contests. Democrats lead in voter registration, and have a well-funded presidential candidate.

Yet Americans have not committed to Mr. Obama. Why?

Clearly, Mr. Obama’s weakness on foreign policy is a factor. He has a knee-jerk preference for diplomacy with China, Europe and Russia over the security of the American people and our closest allies. He hasn’t explained his shifting positions on Iraq and Iran, among other hot spots. And he felt compelled to make up for his experience gap with Mr. McCain by picking Sen. Joe Biden to be his running mate.

But here’s the thing: It’s not that Mr. Obama hasn’t been specific enough in his governing plans. To the contrary, he has been very specific about his tax policy, health-care and energy proposals. It’s that voters are paying attention and appear not to like what Candidate Obama is saying.

Mr. Obama has proposed a massive tax increase on investors, business owners, and the “wealthy.” At a time when the American people rate the economy as the central issue of the campaign, a tax hike doesn’t make a lot of political sense. Voters know that a tax hike won’t help the economy.

Moreover, Mr. Obama’s tax plans would directly or indirectly harm U.S. investors by raising the capital gains and dividend taxes. More than half of U.S. households are equity owners, so Mr. Obama’s proposal risks alienating half the population.

Mr. Obama claims to offer a tax cut to moderate-income families, but a significant portion of Mr. Obama’s tax plan is a welfare giveaway costing more than $648 billion over 10 years, according to the Tax Policy Center.

How so? He would authorize a hodgepodge of refundable tax credits covering everything from education, mortgage payments, child care and other items for people who do not pay income taxes now.

About 38% of U.S. households pay no income tax today. Under a President Obama (whose policies would shave 15.3 million households off the tax rolls) that share would grow to nearly half of all American households.

We have been repeatedly told that everyone should pay their fair share. So this sounds grossly unfair and like a return of tax-and-spend liberal economics. No wonder there is a lot of doubt about the wisdom of the junior senator from Illinois.

Mr. Obama’s health-care proposal is not quite HillaryCare, but it comes close. A national health insurance, heavily subsidized by taxpayers, would be offered to the currently uninsured. Mr. Obama’s instincts on health care are always to move more people onto rolls of government-paid and government-mandated insurance, while depriving the marketplace the oxygen it needs for greater innovation, life-saving cures, and efficiency.

Americans have heard the refrain for government-provided health care before and know an expensive government giveaway when they see it.

Mr. Obama’s energy policy is to drill less, consume less, tax more, and spend more. With barely a nod to nuclear energy — the only meaningfully large, carbon-free source of domestic energy — he is promising a massive increase in domestic, noncarbon-based energy from sources that produce only a fraction of our energy now.

He has also proposed massive tax increases on U.S. oil and gas companies while continuing to cut off vast swaths of U.S. territory to drilling.

Again, Americans are wiser than they are given credit. They know that if you restrict supply and tax production, prices go up.

The economic wisdom of Americans should not be doubted. They can see through Mr. Obama’s proposals. They know that they will have to pick up the bill if Mr. Obama sends checks to people who already don’t pay taxes; they know a centralized government-controlled health-care system will be more expensive, less efficient, and less friendly to patients and doctors. They know that the most effective way to bring down energy prices is by keeping all our energy options open, including more drilling in the U.S.

And they know that if a candidate has spent his entire career taxing more and spending more, that’s what you’ll get — and more of it.

Mr. Obama is wondering why he can’t shake Mr. McCain. His problem isn’t his plans for the campaign. It’s his plans for governing the country. Americans just aren’t buying into them.

Mr. Hubbard was director of the National Economic Council and assistant to the president from 2005-2007. Mr. Neusner was the president’s economic policy speechwriter from 2002-2004.

By walter

September 3, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this

Millions spent on a baseball stadium and not one red cent on commuter rail. No public input on that either, oh wait, there was a straw poll of some sort, don’t put it on a real ballot.

We’re doing the sensible thing, moving out of Gwinnett County as soon as possible. Too much traffic, too much overbuilding and a useless commission that won’t do anything to stop it. And now a baseball stadium with a major overrun.

By wirelessg

September 3, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this

I am just wondering when Richard Tucker will open his new package store on GA 20.

By floyd akridge

September 3, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this

A big “Hello” to all of you now complaining about Bannister. You had your chance a month ago and did nothing. You got what you wanted. Sit on it and spin and enjoy your county going down the tubes.

By Jais

September 4, 2008 12:53 AM | Link to this

Like I said folks, FBI, letters to the senator and the white house of need be. Facts not blubbering opinions. GBI has a website and contact info. easy as a phone call or an email.

By The Way

September 4, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

Build it and they will dun.

By jim d

September 4, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Rick,

Here’s my take on the new stadium: 4-bedroom—3 bath split level with pool and hot tub for sale!

By Bill

September 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Wow! Am I the only one in Gwinnett naive enough to see this as a great investment in the community? I’m not willing to give public officials a free pass on all decisions, but this looks like a sure bet to me. The only thing to do now is watch and see, but I think this group of critics will be eating crow by the end of 2010.

By Sandy_G

September 4, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Sure Bill, it’s a great investment in the community. It was also a great investment for Kevin Kenerly when he bought 91 acres across the road from the stadium site just three months prior to it being announced to the public. Is Kevin going to share his future profits from that deal with the taxpayers?

By Cindy

September 4, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

Yes Bill, you can stand firm alone in the sentry box on this one. I’m a hopeful creature but this one reeks.

btw…at the end of 2010, I’ll be ready and waiting with my mouth open, welcoming the proverbial crow. I truly want to be wrong about this.

By Peaches

September 4, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

People, you may rant and rave all you want but when it comes time for the opening day you will all be there whether rain, snow or tornadoes. That stadium is gonna be filled to capacity… so what’s the gripe about? we should boycott this if you feel so strongly about this… that’s what concerned citizens do ..Do you think they are concerned about your interest? No.

By jim d

September 4, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

Bill,

The house is only a few miles away from the new stadium.

By Cindy

September 4, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

He’s probably looking for something a little farther away so he can rent a car when he goes to the games?

By Boycott Schmoycott

September 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Vote ‘em out.

By Peachtree Corners Gal

September 4, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Why hasn’t the AJC investigated ANY part of this stadium deal? Sandy G was able to get info on land ownership from public records - why isn’t the AJC looking deep into this pile of #$&*( they are trying to shove down our throats? The BOC is making tons of money on this stadium deal - someone needs to expose them all! Paper has a trail…will some reporter please start walking on these BOC’s trails!! The commissioner’s don;t even have the courtesy to address us(the taxpayers, and people who are financing “their” deal)! Can the budget/project be frozen until a proper investigation can be made? What can we do to take back the power from these crooks!!!!!????

By Peachtree Corners Gal

September 4, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Why hasn’t the AJC investigated ANY part of this stadium deal? Sandy G was able to get info on land ownership from public records - why isn’t the AJC looking deep into this pile of #$&*( they are trying to shove down our throats? The BOC is making tons of money on this stadium deal - someone needs to expose them all! Paper has a trail…will some reporter please start walking on these BOC’s trails!! The commissioner’s don;t even have the courtesy to address us(the taxpayers, and people who are financing “their” deal)! Can the budget/project be frozen until a proper investigation can be made? What can we do to take back the power from these crooks!!!!!????

By Peachtree Corners Gal

September 4, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Why hasn’t the AJC investigated ANY part of this stadium deal? Sandy G was able to get info on land ownership from public records - why isn’t the AJC looking deep into this pile of #$&*( they are trying to shove down our throats? The BOC is making tons of money on this stadium deal - someone needs to expose them all! Paper has a trail…will some reporter please start walking on these BOC’s trails!! The commissioner’s don;t even have the courtesy to address us(the taxpayers, and people who are financing “their” deal)! Can the budget/project be frozen until a proper investigation can be made? What can we do to take back the power from these crooks!!!!!????

By Thom More

September 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Bill, you are not naive but downright stupid if you think this “stadium” is going to turn a profit by 2010. Not for Gwinnett, anyway. It is a GREAT deal for the Braves and the crooked politicians & lawyers who foisted this concrete Titanic upon us, the ordinary workers and taxpayers. Now the nut-jobs and cretins start to holler recall & impeachment. Neither of which is a viable, that is, legal option.

By T

September 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Well, just think of all the thugs that won’t be able to get to the stadium on Marta to rob you. LOL.

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